The Ernest "The Cat" Miller Wrestling Thread

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[quote name='Plinko']Kevin Dunn and Brian Gerwitz effectively drove me away from watching WWE years ago.[/quote]

His name is actually Brian Gewirtz, though "Gerwitz" sounds better, and easier to pronounce.

[quote name='mykevermin']I can't find any pictures of Kevin Dunn (he's the only cat on the WWE corporate site without a photo), but I seem to remember him having a fuckin' Tommy Hilfiger-level of giant frightening teeth.

Not that it's material to how much he's ruined wrestling on the whole, but at least he's a financially well off dude who looks like the hillbilly characters from a Tex Avery short, instead of looking like Daniel Craig or somesuch.[/quote]

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^Kevin Dunn, behind Vince McMahon, Sr., in his days as an actor

[quote name='mykevermin']"Apparently when it was explained to Don West, he couldn’t understand it."

:rofl:[/quote]


Don West is worse than Mark Madden, as at least Mark Madden went away.
 
I don't blame West in this case. This is TNA booking we're talking about: reverse battle royals, quasi-MITB matches with one dumbass "you're fired" case, whatever the fuck 'deuces wild' is, and god knows what else.

Ultimate X Lockdown Clockwork Orange House of Doomsday Terrordome whatever.

I'm on West's side, man. TNA so frequently overcooks feuds that should be only a little more detailed than this:

A: "I bet I could beat you."
B: "I bet you can't, fuckface."
 
Actually, that was about the best thing they can do with Adamle. He's going to get hated on no matter what, so just let him be bad on purpose and get heel heat from it.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']:shock: @ the return of Trish Stratus

:rofl: @ the first Ron Simmons "DAMN" in eons![/QUOTE]


Trish Stratus? I honestly forgot it was monday. I'm watching the Hornets (hopefully) kick the crap out of the Spurs.

Edit: Kennedy and HHH vs. 14 ECW guys??? I swear if HHH wins there is no reason for ANYONE to ever watch ECW ever again.
 
First RAW I've gotten to watch in ages and I'm liking it thus far. However, I do shit upon the Toronto crowd for chanting "You screwed Bret" at Shawn Michaels.

It's fucking fake, get over it you d-nozzles.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I don't blame West in this case. This is TNA booking we're talking about: reverse battle royals, quasi-MITB matches with one dumbass "you're fired" case, whatever the fuck 'deuces wild' is, and god knows what else.

Ultimate X Lockdown Clockwork Orange House of Doomsday Terrordome whatever.

I'm on West's side, man. TNA so frequently overcooks feuds that should be only a little more detailed than this:

A: "I bet I could beat you."
B: "I bet you can't, fuckface."[/quote]

TNA does love their chaotic show finishes and match gimmicks. I guess they figure it's the only way to attract viewers. I like Tenay... well, I liked WCW Tenay, when he was the play-by-play guy who could ramble off a list of moves. He's since become just another "storyteller."

Joey Styles and Cyrus were a great commentary team. They had a nice chemistry and, while calling moves, were able to tell stories without neglecting a thing. However, my favorite team is still Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan. There will never be another Bobby Heenan, and we, as fans, suffer because of it.

Ross was pretty good in WCW and his early-WWE days, but, like all things, has deteriorated as a commentator. As a pro-wrestling mind, though, I often agree with his thoughts on things WWE.

Jerry Lawler was a great color commentator. A real talent. His heel personality throughout the early-to-mid-1990s is second to only Heenan. However, Lawler became a joke and incredibly obnoxious. Today's Lawler is better than the "puppy" heydays, but still useless.

Al Snow was a surprisingly good commentator in OVW, Taz is okay, and it's a sad state of affairs when I am forced to say JBL was one of the best present WWE commentators. He created facts and statistics, but he did the job well.
 
Only team I liked more than Monsoon and Heenan was Monsoon and Ventura. That was the only commentary team where you got a feeling like it was a special event when you saw them working together - yeah they would do the occasional regional house show broadcast, but by and large the fanbase knew them as the Wrestlemania commentary team back when Wrestlemania still had a pretty strong aura about it. Heenan fucking rules and his stuff was funny regardless, but a lot of his stuff struck me as "I wrote this down earlier in the week and have been waiting to use it." Ventura and Monsoon were just very off-the-cuff and believeable...as believeable as a good guy and bad guy announcer team can get, anyway.


Wrestlemania definitely lost something after Jesse left before WM7.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Only team I liked more than Monsoon and Heenan was Monsoon and Ventura. That was the only commentary team where you got a feeling like it was a special event when you saw them working together - yeah they would do the occasional regional house show broadcast, but by and large the fanbase knew them as the Wrestlemania commentary team back when Wrestlemania still had a pretty strong aura about it. Heenan fucking rules and his stuff was funny regardless, but a lot of his stuff struck me as "I wrote this down earlier in the week and have been waiting to use it." Ventura and Monsoon were just very off-the-cuff and believeable...as believeable as a good guy and bad guy announcer team can get, anyway.


Wrestlemania definitely lost something after Jesse left before WM7.[/quote]

I agree with your thoughts, KR. Ventura is another good personality that made for a great color commentator. His comments were indeed organic as the commentary skill seemed to naturally come to him.

And you know what? There should be a pro-wrestling union.
 
I just started watching - Beth Phoenix sure looks like Mrs. Glacier tonight.

I'm a little disappointed that WWE - who "makes movies" and isn't involved in "professional wrestling," totally threw away and spent no time whatsoever putting momentum into the Mickie James "I just can't do it" self-doubt angle. She cried after jobbing for two weeks straight, took a little consolation, and then won the title in a meaningless match with no hype or promotion whatsoever.

Seeing someone 'overcome the odds' is meaningful when it isn't about John Cena is presented in a way that emphasizes the possibility, or the high probability, that the protagonist *CAN'T* do it. That Mickie James has a big hyped PPV match with Beth Phoenix, but not only has she been pinned twice in facing her recently, but she has no faith or belief that she can beat Phoenix.

In terms of TV writing, this isn't complex stuff - in fact, it's the plot to every "Rocky" movie ever made. But WWE, who doesn't do "pro wrestling" and "tells stories" or "makes movies" can't even convey a dumbass 100-level tv writing story well.
 
I used to LOVE Ventura when he was announcing for the old SNME.

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Raw sucked. Adamle sucks. Cody Rhodes sucks. Kofi Kingston especially sucks. Chavo sucks. Punk's push sucks worse than Kofi...and he especially sucks
 
There was nobody on earth as effective or enjoyable as those 6 minutes of JBL tonight. Even Piper's DUI reference was tame compared to JBL. He did everything totally fucking right.

Wow.

EDIT: HAHAHA!!!! Triple H beat up an entire PROGRAM tonight!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's great because it's absolutely ludicrous, it's two weeks into a new title run, and it's going to drive 'net smarks batshit fucking INSANE.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']There was nobody on earth as effective or enjoyable as those 6 minutes of JBL tonight. Even Piper's DUI reference was tame compared to JBL. He did everything totally fucking right.

Wow.

EDIT: HAHAHA!!!! Triple H beat up an entire PROGRAM tonight!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's great because it's absolutely ludicrous, it's two weeks into a new title run, and it's going to drive 'net smarks batshit fucking INSANE.[/quote]

JBL is good with the stick, and I enjoy his promos, so I'll watch this. :D
 
JBL was incredible tonight, if he's healthy, I want a World Title back on him right now. Have him dupe Punk out of the Money in the Bank contract and get him to steal someone's shit.

He's probably the best heel in the company at the moment. Edge is semi-credible as a threat to guys like Taker and Orton gets a universally mixed reaction. JBL gets 99% heel heat and with his mouth, he can get that same heat anywhere.

Going into Toronto and saying that the Hart Foundation is dead... man. And then beating the holy hell out of the British Bulldog's son.
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']I skipped out on RAW and saw Iron Man instead.

Did I make the right choice?[/quote]

Wow, I did the exact same thing.
 
Piper's dance was the best part about Raw. Otherwise, this wasn't much of a show, although I did like JBL burying DH Smith, then killing him a squash. Regal being the insane king seemed less enjoyable tonight since they drove the joke into the ground, kinda like what they did with Adamle, who was more enjoyable when he was unintentionally bad instead of being intentionally bad. He got a ton of heat from the crowd though, so I wouldn't mind him being a manager and then doing commentary only on his charge's matches.

Quotes -
Vince - Last week, William Regal did something that no man has ever done before - he ended the broadcast in the middle of a title match. As a result of that, many of you delivered protests by sending e-mails, and ask that I come here tonight. Much like you, I found Regal’s actions reprehensible. At the same time, I find them to be innovative, and daring. Not only innovative and daring, but VISIONARY! As a matter of fact, Mr. Regal reminds me a lot of MEE! Which is why I’m here to support and endorse Regal as your king and GM! I would only ask that you show him the same respect you have for me. (fans chant “asshole”) I thank you very much.
Regal - As I said last week, you might not like me, but you will respect me. Do I have your respect? (crowd boos) Pity. Because like last week, I am prepared to turn out the lights at my discretion. (crowd chants Regal sucks) So be it - turn off the lights. (crowd chants Regal sucks) Turn them back on again. This show will continue, but you may not be able to see it, because I’m willing to have this entire show in internal darkness. I will not tolerate being disrespected any longer! (Kennedy’s theme hits)
Kennedy - If you want respect so much, then all ya gotta do is take me up on my offer and go one and one with me in this very ring…tonight! Huh!?
Regal - You just don’t get it, do you? It’s a dreadful shame when people don’t know they’re place in life. I’m your superior!
Kennedy - Well then, PROVE IT!
Regal - I fully intend to, because tonight, you’re in the main event, and you’ll be facing the ECW Champion, Kane. And the WWE tag team champions, Morrison and the Miz. And the winner of the money in the bank match, CM Punk. And the former ECW Champion Chavo Guerrero and his bodyguard. In fact, you will be facing THE ENTIRE ECW ROSTER! It’s a little arrangement I have with Estrada - I promised to promote tomorrow night’s 100th edition of ECW. I will no longer tolerate being disrespected by you or any man. (HHH’s theme hits)
HHH - Please, pardon the intrusion, sir. Unlike young Mr. Kennedy, Kennedy over here, I mean you no disrespect. I just wanted to congratulate you on your newfound position of power and offer you some friendly advice, if I may. If you would like to maintain your newfound status, you need to not make mistakes - take for example, last week. You turned the lights out ON MY MATCH! That was a mistake. When it was off the air, you walked up and ended my match. That was a mistake. Last week, you disrespected me. THAT WAS A MISTAKE! And trust me, Regal, if you would like to maintain your position and keep your power, you do not want to go to war with me!
Regal - War with you? I wouldn’t want that - you’re far too busy. In 2 weeks, you’ve got a title match inside the cage at Judgment Day, because I don’t think you’re going to be able to compete. I’ve changed the main event - it’s going to be the ECW roster against Kennedy…and you.
Lawler - If I’ve done my math right, there are 14 SUPERSTARS ON THE ECW ROSTER!
J.R. - Good move from the country girl, Mickie James, who was always told she was too small to be in the WWE.
Murdoch (singing) - GIVE IHIM SOMETHING WARM TO COME HOME TO WHEN THE NIGHTS ARE WARM AND LONELY! Whadya think, Tirsh?
Simmons - DAMN!
J.R. - Ron Simmons, now a member of the college football hall of fame.
King - Only one thing to say about that - Damn!
Orton - In two weeks, the Age of Orton resumes!
Regal - Before this match starts, turn J.R’s mic off. To call this match, MIKE ADAMLE! (crowd boos)
Adamle - We don’t know much about John Cutler except that his name rhymes with butler, and that the cutler did it!
King - Did you say the butler did it?
Adamle - No, the cutler.
Adamle - This isn’t a handicap match.
King - What do you mean? It’s 2-on-1 - Cutler has the handicap.
Crowd - THIS IS BORING! THIS IS BORING!
King - Mike, I’m not gonna complain about your announcing - the line’s too long! J.R., please come home! Is your mic on? Please say it is!
J.R. - I watch ECW on Sci-Fi every week, and these men are two of the reasons why.
King - Not just ECW, SD too, right?
J.R. - Right. These two men are the future of tag team wrestling - they’re young, athletic, have confidence, and are students of the game. They may be too arrogant for some, but athletically-speaking, these two kids are awesome.
(on fans booing Michaels)J.R. - The fans here in Canada have long memories - in 1997, he defeated a Canadian hero in Bret “the Hit Man” Hart in controversial fashion.
J.R. - I like the combination of Morrison and Miz.
King - I didn’t like the combination of Adamle and me!
Carlito - Cut the music. Last week on Raw, something happened between a hall of famer and a future tag team champion that was…NOT COOL! Let’s clear the air right now - here’s my guest, Rowdy Roddy Piper. Welcome. Now look. I know more than anyone how annoying Santino can be.
Roddy - yes!
Calrito - But you took it too far.
Roddy - Too far? Listen buckwheat! My whole life, I’ve been taking it too far! If I was a normal guy, I might’ve just taken exception to the insult. Another guy might’ve turned the other cheek, and another might’ve insulted him back. BUT NOT ME! I BEAT MR. T, I BEAT HULK HOGAN, I BEAT CANCER! AND I AM SO SORRY THAT I DON’T HAVE THE TIME TO PLAY NICE-NICE TO THE SUPER MARIO BROTHERS! AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THE TIME TO SIT AND TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE MY NAME AIN’T DOCTOR PHIL! IT’S ROWDY RODDY PIPER! AND I DID IT MY WAY! AND MY WAY WAS WITH A SLAP!
Carlito - Well that guy you slapped happens to be teaming with Carlito, and he’s a future tag team champion! You’re lucky Carlito wasn’t there, ‘cuz I would’ve slapped you back.
Piper - You’re lucky I didn’t bring a seagull to make a nest in that thing you call a hairdo! (Santino’s theme hits)
Santino - Carlito, please, you don’t have to lay a hand on this man! He’s all mine! Rondey the Piper, you tell everyone you’re so tough! And you say that you did it your way, well, when you did it your way, it took you eight years to become Intercontinental champion! I DID THAT ON MY FIRST NIGHT IN THE COMPANY! PLUS, VERY SOON, I’M GOING TO BE WORLD TAG TEAMS WITH MY FRIEND CARLITO! SO FOR YOU TO SLAP ME, IT WASN’T VERY EMBARASSING!
Piper - EMBARASSING!?
Santino - ENOUGH OF THIS, CARLITO! (Cody’s theme hits, crowd cheers) HOLD ON, ONE SECOND!
Cody - This is not how you treat a legend. Cool off so nobody gets hurt.
Carlito - What are you doing this? Your boyfriend Hardcore Holly isn’t there.
Cody - He isn’t, but I know two guys who are dying to meet the Hot Rod! (Cryme Tyme’s theme hits)
J.R. - Know what I mean, dog/
Shad - Just like two chumps to run before the fight. But tonight, it’s not about that money, money, it’s about that ROWDY, ROWDY, YEAH YEAH!
Cody - YEAH, YEAH!(Piper dances)
JBL - You people don’t know what it’s like to be JBL. To be the CEO of a company I own, to ride in a stretch limousine. Sometimes, I even have a flight attendant back here…to serve me. Cena, we each enjoy fine cars - the difference is, I ride in the back. Let’s take a ride. DH SMITH, DAVEY BOY SMITH’S SON. IF I CAN’T BEAT UP JOHN CENA, I’LL BE HAPPY TO BEAT UP A CANADIAN IN THIS TOILET BOWL OF A COUNTRY! THE CANADIAN BULLDOG - BOY THAT’S CLEVER! THE LAST OF THE HART FOUNDATION! WHICH IS DEAD BY THE WAY. SO LET ME EXPLAIN THIS TO YA - YOUR DADDY CAN’T HELP YA RIGHT NOW, BRET HART CAN’T HELP YA RIGHT NOW! IN FACT, HARRY, GOD CAN’T HELP YA RIGHT NOW! RING THE BELL!
J.R. - HHH is a 12-time WWE Champion, and that number is significant. It puts him above men like the Rock, Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart…among others!
(Chavo pins Kennedy)Lilian - Here are your winners - the ECW roster! (HHH kills ECW roster, lights go out, Orton RKOs HHH)

For the folks who missed this show for Iron Man, yeah, you made the right move.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']There was nobody on earth as effective or enjoyable as those 6 minutes of JBL tonight. Even Piper's DUI reference was tame compared to JBL. He did everything totally fucking right.

Wow.

EDIT: HAHAHA!!!! Triple H beat up an entire PROGRAM tonight!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's great because it's absolutely ludicrous, it's two weeks into a new title run, and it's going to drive 'net smarks batshit fucking INSANE.[/quote]

First HHH squashes the Raw tag division and now the whole of ECW (judging from what's been posted). Watch out, Smackdown, you're next! I bet he digs up the corpse of Andre just so he can pedigree him and say that he did it. To anyone who was OK with Trips winning the title yet again, Cena's not looking quite so bad now, huh?
 
Lisps are genetic?! Cody Rhodes is a liver spot and two-hundred pounds away from me hopping onto his bandwagon.
 
Well, Nosey didn't pull a Cena Kent and Superman his way out of the scenario, which is good. In fact, up until a chair shot, he even sold a lot to Mike Knox. This is weird. I expected another "Triple H buries everyone" spree. Where am I? Guam? Cubanada? Holy crepes, chocolate-flavored pandas and walking waffles! :shock:



*brain hemorrhages*
 
Great Raw tonight! Just about everything they did was very entertaining and I feel that for the first time in awhile they have actually laid the ground work for some really good upcoming feuds and angles. I was also glad to see Kennedy in a main event and hope that he stays there. Regal and JBL were also great tonight and it was cool to see Piper back, especially since his segment was entertaining. Definitely one of the best Raws in awhile.
 
I loved the JBL stuff last night. Those kicks were fucking BRUTAL. I also liked Orton appearing out of nowhere to give Triple H an rko. I've always loved how Orton looks at someone after he gives them an rko, like he's possessed or something.
 
2 wrestlers are better...


Norman Smiley
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La Parka
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Since most of the other stuff that bugged me about last night has already been covered, two thoughts.

1. Since we're turning him face now (took fucking long enough) and that new cd tanked, can we PLEASE change Kennedy's music back now? It just... doesn't work. At all.

2. Music again... so, we have this great evil dark theme that gels so well with Regal's new mad with power persona and we go ahead and change it to a somewhat upbeat king theme? That irked me. When he was on the chair after KOTR and they were playing his theme, it was perfect. (NOTE: they may have changed this last week, but I missed Raw)
 
So I watched ROH Rise Above (Rising?) this weekend and I gotta say, I was super impressed. That was my first foray into ROH and while I don't want to get Zen all hyped up that he might have a new recruit on his hands, I'm interested in more. The cut on Nigel's forehead in the main event was pretty heinous.

It was a little "high-spotty" at times where it was just two punches, crazy move, two punches, crazy move at times, but it was enjoyable. Pro wrestling needs more masked wrestlers.

On a side note, Wrath & Mortis was one of the more underrated tag teams of that time period. They rocked it for awhile, got squashed by Hall/Nash, separated and then we all saw what happened to Kanyon.
 
[quote name='lmz00']King Booker's theme music was somewhat upbeat as well.[/quote]

Yeah, but King Booker was always sort of a 'ha-ha' gimmick, no matter how serious they could have even tried to make it.

Regal already had perfect 'evil royal' music, for lack of a better term, which is why I don't really understand changing it to some milquetoast king theme.
 
Meltzer has evidently reported that Mark Henry had told Vince McMahon that he's quitting unless Michael Hayes is fired.

I don't see Hayes getting fired.
 
[quote name='beane316']Raw sucked. Adamle sucks. Cody Rhodes sucks. Kofi Kingston especially sucks. Chavo sucks. Punk's push sucks worse than Kofi...and he especially sucks[/quote]

That post made me laugh. I though raw was fair. I hate the whole I'm turning off raw thing because you people don't respect me crap. I really don't like adamle I wonder why wwe even wanted him...
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Meltzer has evidently reported that Mark Henry had told Vince McMahon that he's quitting unless Michael Hayes is fired.

I don't see Hayes getting fired.[/quote]

It's nice to see someone actually attempt to do the right thing. In a real business, Hayes would have been fired. Hell, even at Wal-Mart, they would have fired Hayes. What does Hayes do to still be around? Give Vince blowjobs, or something? Take it up the ass from Pat Patterson?

Also, Khali on Hayes's behavior:

Regarding Michael Hayes' relationship with Dave Kapoor a.k.a Ranjin Singh, while he'd often refer to him (and The Great Khali) with a racial slur when he wasn't around, he wasn't shy about doing it in his presence during booking meetings either. "The worst part is that Dave would be there to take the abuse and he was intimidated and almost paralyzed by the comments," one source said. "He'd try and smile to deflect, but you could see it impacted him. Hayes would also do a stereotype Indian dialect, mocking Dave, who doesn't have an Indian dialect at all." A number of people confirmed these stories on Hayes' using this terminology in reference to Kapoor, but it was split on whether it came off as bad as it reads. Some say it was clearly not said in a biting manner, and that Hayes was simply joking around. Additionally, Hayes' racials slurs towards people of Indian descent weren't only limited to Kapoor and The Great Khali. A few years ago, a professor from George Washington University by the name of Dr. Ranjan Chhibber worked on the creative team. Hayes routinely referred to him with a racial slur as well. Also, Kapoor's ring name, Ranjin Singh, is a spoof on Chhibber, who has long since parted ways with the company, but apparently still has some enemies within WWE.

It's a bit disturbing how Hayes was not fired.
 
[quote name='jman619']That post made me laugh. I though raw was fair. I hate the whole I'm turning off raw thing because you people don't respect me crap. I really don't like adamle I wonder why wwe even wanted him...[/QUOTE]"Pulling the plug" worked last week, but it was pretty overdone this time. It also represented some sloppy writing, since the idea wasn't supposed to be that the house lights got shut off last week - just that the BROADCAST was cut and the home viewers got gypped out of the ending. CONSISTENCY, people!!!

And what they're doing with Adamle is great - I just hope they employ a WEE bit of subtlety here. It's gonna get old quick if Adamle just cracks bad jokes and Lawler goes "uhhhhhh" the whole time. They gotta tone it down because they were really beating us over the head with it in the segment this week. They gotta give the viewers SOME credit... especially when it's a semi-"smart" angle to begin with.
 
someone needs to take over for Jim Ross when he finally retires.. or has another stroke and really can't talk..

i'm not saying Adamle is good, but he was probably the best available...
 
[quote name='DJSteel']someone needs to take over for Jim Ross when he finally retires.. or has another stroke and really can't talk..

i'm not saying Adamle is good, but he was probably the best available...[/quote]

I am not certain if you say this as a joke. So I don't know how to respond to it. :whistle2:(

In any event, it seems Hacksaw still has a secret love for his Team Canada days.

Hacksaw came out with a US flag, and got booed heavily. Before entering the ring, he switched the flag to a Canadian one.

Hehehe... ;)
 
Josh Mathews is still employed, and would be worlds better than Adamle.

Tuesday Observer site news update - http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=22792

More on the Ashley Massaro escort service controversy, info about a WWE Legends of WrestleMania video game, info on Superstar Billy Graham taking a bad spill recently, and a documentary being shot on the life of Khali by the BBC.

-----------------------------

The Massaro stuff is certainly odd, and I'm somewhat surprised that WWE had her appear on Raw with it going on. I'm interested in that WWE game, as it sounds like an SvR-engine run Legends of Wrestling-style game, which could be quite awesome. I hope Superstar is able to recover, as he's had a lot of health problems, and certainly doesn't deserve any more of them. The Khali documentary sounds interesting - I look forward to seeing the final product whenever it's released.
 
Just saw the Legends game news as well, definitely worth a look.

I'm also tempted to look for tickets for this Monday's RAW in Detroit since RAW's quality has picked up. I would've bought them when they went on sale,but was planning on having a job by now and since I haven't found one I've got the time. BUT I'm broke so I'll just have to watch it on tv.
 
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1KukHei8fo[/MEDIA]

ROH News-

Here is what you will witness from the opening match to the main event when ROH puts its balls on the line in the historic Hammerstein Ballroom:

1) FIP World Heavyweight Title Match - One Fall - No Time Limit
Champion Roderick Strong
vs.
Erick Stevens
vs.
Go Shiozaki

2) Special Tag Team Attraction - One Fall - 20 Minute Time Limit
Davey Richards & Rocky Romero
vs.
Kevin Steen & El Generico

3) Tag Team Scramble - One Fall - 20 Minute Time Limit
Delirious & Pelle Primeau
vs.
Brent Albright & Chris Hero with Larry Sweeney & reality TV star Jonny Fairplay
vs.
Jack Evans & Jigsaw with Julius Smokes

4) Best In The World Collide - One Fall - 45 Minute Time Limit
Bryan Danielson vs. Naomichi Marufuji

Intermission

5) Battle Of The Brawlers - One Fall - 30 Minute Time Limit - Non-Title
GHC Heavyweight Champion Takeshi Morishima vs. The Necro Butcher

6) ROH World Tag Team Title Match - No Disqualification - One Fall - 45 Minute Time Limit
Champions Jay Briscoe & Austin Aries vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black

7) ROH World Title Match - One Fall - 60 Minute Time Limit
Champion Nigel McGuinness vs. Claudio Castagnoli
 
[quote name='neocisco']To anyone who was OK with Trips winning the title yet again, Cena's not looking quite so bad now, huh?[/QUOTE]

Six of one. Half an dozen of the other. Hunter is boring as hell as champ as Cena is just god awful annoying. Can we have our Age Of Orton back please?
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Six of one. Half an dozen of the other. Hunter is boring as hell as champ as Cena is just god awful annoying. Can we have our Age Of Orton back please?[/quote]

Or possibly some new air to breathe, maybe? I get it, they are "big WWE stars" and blah blah blah, but simply rotating the same group of people into the World title picture is boring. Part of the problem is WWE doesn't anymore seem to like the idea of building up people as possible credible World champions. If Regal enters a feud with Kennedy, he probably won't receive a World title shot, and will disappear from the upper-card yet again. Jeff Hardy was on his way, but, well, I guess he just loves drugs more. But yes, the World title picture needs something new, and hopefully that breath of fresh-air is Regal.
 
If I had to have one of those 3 I'd definitely choose Orton. Move HHH and Cena completely out of the title picture and let someone else "run with the ball". I've always enjoyed the self-fulfilling prophecy about how no one steps up when, in actuality, one is rarely given even the slightest opportunity to do so and even then it's a half-hearted push.
 
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