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Myke, I agree - they had this really great, epic match that didn't fit the comedy build at all. The build they did was more befitting Chavo-Hornswoggle part 90, not A WORLD TITLE MAIN EVENT PPV MATCH. When you consider that it was not only that, but also a battle of a long-time tag team AND former tag champs in HBK/Cena...wow. It's a shame that they actually went out and busted their asses since it was basically for nothing so far - the build did NOTHING to help it draw. However, it did further prove that comedy doesn't draw money, so hopefully this show bombs and WWE learns from it.
 
Wonder what they're going to come up with for the TLC PPV next month as far as main events go, Smackdown particularly.

I'd say something like Kane/Taker vs. Jerishow where the winner (the one who pulls down the belt) wins the world title and the Unified tag titles for their team.

More likely however, would be adding a few more teams to the mix and just having it for the tag titles. Taker would be protected since he could just throw the smaller guys around for the most part.
 
That sucks. I'd guess Sheamus to keep a similar team dynamic. Bad feeling they might go with Lance Cade and move Jericho back to feuding with DX.
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']It seems that Big Show is going in for knee surgery soon, so that kinda leaves Jericho partnerless again.[/QUOTE]

Cue Ralphus and Mr. Hughes.
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']It seems that Big Show is going in for knee surgery soon, so that kinda leaves Jericho partnerless again.[/QUOTE]

Damn, not again. I'm still pissed that Edge was injured just as they got the belts. I mean I don't like the guy all that much, but they had a great dynamic and it was a way to comfortably move Edge out of the title picture.
 
On the one hand, I'd like to see the belts go to someone else. Not that I don't like JeriShow, but it'd be nice. On the other hand, having the belts switch with practically no buildup seems really stupid.

...Oh who am I kidding, I already know that's going to happen.

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well this match makes no sense... swagger,chavo, and henry have been ECW World champions... guess thats why lawler said wwe/world champion

bet on in that team mvp wins
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Vince coming out to Animotion just made my fucking night.[/QUOTE]

I kind of hope he ditches the Mr. McMahon character for this and goes back to his old commentator gimmick.
 
The Body doing commentary????

Ah man....how I miss this?!?!?!
 
[quote name='darkdaze73']wow.....Cena vs SheamusJames Hetfield for the title. He shot up the ladder really quick.[/QUOTE]

And he's gonna get buried even quicker. Just ask Koslov.
 
I didn't watch all of Raw....was the crowd all dead like that????
 
The show started off great, with Orton and Jesse Ventura squaring off on the mic and goddamn if Jesse wasn't THE MAN here. Tons of presence, and he's still better than everyone in the company on promos. The vague setup of the tourney and battle royal was TNA-riffic, but at least they actually clarified it within minutes. If it was TNA, they'd have waited until the middle of the battle royal to begin explaining things. Kofi-Dolph was good, even if it was sad to see Dolph's push get further killed. Sheamus-Finlay was really short, but good, and amusing due to the giant "SHANUS" sign in the background.

Cena-Punk was just awesome. Easily Cena's best singles match in a while, and I loved that they found a way to have Punk lose in a way that didn't hurt him in the least. He avoided tapping to the STF numerous times, and only lost to the FU after it was done off the second rope and looked perfect. The match itself had some good back and forth action, and I also loved Punk doing the "you can't see me" bit after the shining wizard. He's mastered becoming an animated gif favorite with wacky little stuff like that. Punk's pre-match promo about the evils of Thanksgiving dinner leading to the consumption of LIQUID ANTACID was great just due to the sheer absurdity of it.

Then we got Vince and Jesse backstage...holy crap was this ever captivating. Jesse just ranted and raved about Vince and conspiracies and how Vince's father only made him an announcer because it was the one job he couldn't possibly screw up. Then he said that he and Vince would be returning for one night only tonight and I couldn't wait. Then he revealed Vince's new red bow tie and I just about lost it. Awesome shit here. Then MVP, Henry, and Truth beat Chavo, Masters, and the new worthless mid-card guy, Swagger to get into the battle royal.

Jesse letting Orton have a shot because he wouldn't relent in getting one was fitting his character, but undermined the "Orton can't have another shot at Cena" stip a little bit. At least Jesse's "Randy, you can have a shot... IF YOU CAN BEAT EVAN BOURNE!" ruled. The Mayflower Melee was awesome from beginning to end. First, it was the Pilgrims theme that made it great, then their tron aired of women walking in the grass, and then Michelle spoke. Okay, so that sucked, but everything else ruled. The $$$$er returning, only to have his name pronounced differently on commentary after commercial to something more PC. Then THE INDIANS came out and Lawler pointed out that it was un-PC for them to be called that. AND THEY HAD TATANKA'S THEME! A match happened and after it, the $$$$er unmasked as Maryse, who then slipped on the goofy outfit and yet was still super-hot. God bless this woman.

DX-Hart Dynasty was certainly good, but kinda lacking considering the history between the Harts and Michaels. Still though,t he match was a showcase for the Dynasty to some degree, so that was good. Then, Jericho cut a money promo about the Jerishow-Show vs. DX TLC match not being about jokes, but being for something important - the Unified Tag titles. Cryme Tyme-Legacy was just a match, and really didn't do anything to build on the DiBiase Marine trailer.

I'm willing to let that slide though, because Vince and Jesse were so goddamn great. Fascinating might be a better word, as these two just don't like each other at all, made it very clear on commentary, and yet were still able to put the stuff over that had to be put over. The battle royal put the Kofi-Orton deal over huge, and then made Sheamus look like a million bucks. Just like Diesel in '94, he eliminated a ton of people and had instant cred as a result. Then they did the signing, Jesse did a heel turn to put him over more, basically said "THIS MAN HAS TAKEN PEOPLE OUT OF THE BUSINESS AND NOW CENA, HE'S COMING AFTER YOU" and then he destroyed Cena after one of Cena's best, most passionate promos yet. They made a main event-level star in one night and furthered the ascent of Kofi into one as well. Awesome Raw - one of the biggest steps they've taken yet as far as correcting the lack of talent depth on top.

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Quotes -
Cole - Probably the most embarrassing thing for Orton last night was being pinned!
Orton- I know the normal routine is for the host to come out to be interrupted by someone - but I do not care! I know that Ventura has a major announcement tonight regarding the WWE Title, and my father told me that Jesse considers himself to be a radical who isn’t afraid to break the rules! Jesse, prove that to me! I know I’m not supposed to face Cena for the title anymore, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THE GUEST HOST CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT! JESSE VENTURA HAS THE POWER TO LIFT THE BAN! Jesse, you know me, you know that I deserve to be champion more than anyone else! So what I’m asking of you is before you make your announcement and do what is right - GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO BE WORLD CHAMPION AGAIN! It is the right thing to do AND DO NOT LISTEN TO ANY OF THESE PEOPLE! Come on out, Jesse…
Ventura - HERSHEY, PA! THE BODY IS BACK AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I AIN’T DRESSED LIKE NO GOVERNER, I’M DRESED LIKE PRO WRESTLING! YOU KNOW, I’M IN CHARGE NOW HERE! I’M THE GUEST HOST SO WHAT I SAY GOES! NOW MR. RANDY ORTON! YOU KNOW, I RESPECT YOU! I LIKE YOUR STYLE! IN FACT, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU REMIND ME OF ME! BACK WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BIT YOUNGER! BUT THE PROBLEM IS THIS, I AM A GOVERNER, I DON’T BELONG TO THE REPUBLICANS OR THE DEMOCRATS, I’M AN INDEPENDENT! I STAND FOR A REVOLUTION IN THIS COUNRY! AND BEING THAT I’M THE GOVERNOR OF REVOLUTION, I’M ALSO THE ONE WHO WILL BRING SOMETHING NEW TO THE WWE TONIGHT! AND THE PROBLEM IS THIS, RANDY - YOU’RE NOT GONNA GET A TITLE SHOT! BECAUSE AS I SAID, I’M HERE FOR SOMETHING NEW - THERE’S BEEN TOO MANY OF THE SAME PEOPLE, DAY IN DAY OUT THAT THE SAME ONES GET THE SHOT AT THE TITLE! WELL IT’S TIME TO CHANGE THAT! NO IT’S NOT GONNA BE RANDY ORTON, OR THE BIG SHOW!
Orton - HHH!
Ventura - HE WILL NOT GET A SHOT!
Orton - SHOW!?
Ventra - NO, NONE OF THEM WILL! WHAT’S GONNA HAPPEN TONIGHT - THERE’S GONNA BE A SERIES OF MATCHES, AND TO QUALIFY WILL BE SIMPLE - YOU CAN NEVER HAVE BEEN A WORLD CHAMPION! And these gentlemen that will go through the qualifying matches will go into the breakthrough battle royal! AND THE WINNER OF THIS BATTLE ROYAL WILL THEN BE THE NUMBER 1 CONTENDER TO THE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION! AND IT WILL NOT BE ANY OF THESE OLD NAMES! Randy, as much as I admire you, YOU WILL NOT BE PART OF THIS!
Orton - YOU ARE MAKING A VERY BIG MISTAKE!
Ventura - Well, I’ve made plenty of mistakes before, but I move on from them and my rules still go and here in the WWE I AM THE GUEST HOST AND SO WHAT I SAY GOES! Now, here are the first for tonight. NUMBER ONE THAT YOU’VE NEVER SEEN - JOHN CENA WILL FACE CM PUNK! THEY’VE NEVER WRESTLED BEFORE! Following that, the Hart Dynasty will face DX! THEY HAVE NEVER FOUGHT BEFORE! AND FINALLY, THE CONTESTANTS OF THE BREAKTHROUGH BATTLE ROYAL, AND THE WINNER WILL BE THE NUMBER ONE CONTENDER TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP OF THE WORLD! THAT’S HOW IT’S GONNA BE BECAUSE I SAY SO! NOW, THE FIRST MATCH STARTS RIGHT NOW!
Cole - CAN KOFI BREAK ON THROUGH TO THE OTHER SIDE!?
Cole - Kofi can take one smore step towards being champion!
Cole - Finlay’s been in this industry for 30 years - it COULD be his last chance at a world title!
Cole - SHEAMUS IS ABSOLUTELY DOMINATING! (fan holds up Shanus sign)
Young Girl - I LOVE YOU, SHEAMUS!
Vickie - Teddy, pass the potatoes!
Punk - It seems everyone’s telling you what they’re thankful for this year. I’m thankful, first and foremost, FOR BEING STRAIGHT EDGE! I’m thankful this makes me different - because I wouldn’t to be any of you people! And for those living under a rock, straight edge means no drugs, no alcohol, no prescription medication. I do not abuse my body. Straight edge means I’m better than you! Thanksgiving’s biggest vice is gluttony, and judging by the size of some of you, I can see you all eating, then reaching for that LIQUID ANTACID, and then having dessert. Why? BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT AS STRONG AS I AM! On Thanksgiving, you can either be me, or you can continue being your lazy, drug-consuming selves! THREE CHEERS FOR MEDIOCRITY! Tonight, you’ll see me face a turkey names John Cena. I want you to know that through these sober eyes, I can see you!
King - Thanksgiving will be no fun at his house!
(Punk does the you can’t see me thing after the shining wizard, before the bulldog)Cole - PUNK IS MOCKING CENA!
Ventura - I’m sure there’s plenty of conspiracies with you in charge, Vince.
Ventura - You think you’re special by being a billionaire? I was in charge of a $32 billion dollar budget in Minnesota - I can run your little pipsqueak operation. I’m one of the few in this building who remembers your father - your father didn’t believe in you, and he made you an announcer because you couldn’t screw it up! Vince, tonight you’re going back on the mic with me tonight - no match, just talking - you might be good at it! We’re going back to what your father knew you could do - or thought you could do. Here’s your red bow-tie. If you’re not Bozo the Clown, you’re his twin brother!
Ventura - Randy, you’ll get your shot…IF YOU CAN BEAT EVAN BOURNE!
Ventura - Did someone mention Hogan or did you cut the cheese?
Cole - IT WAS 19 YEARS AGO THAT THE GOBBLEDY $$$$ER WAS HATCHED INTO THE WWE UNIVERSE!
Lawler - We’ve been informed that it’s “guker”, not “$$$$er”.
Lawler - Wait, they’re the Indians!? THAT’S NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT!
Lawler - Mickie James reminds me of Poke-a-hottie!
(as $$$$er)Maryse - Get. Out!
Jericho - THIS ISN’T ABOUT CATCHPHRASES, FART JOKES, AND LITTLE PEOPLE - THIS IS ABOUT THE TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP! AND FOR ALL YOUR JOKING, YOU’VE NEVER BEEN TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS! EVER! AS LONG AS I HAVE THESE TITLES, YOU NEVER WILL!
Santino - Ladies, you shouldn’t be fighting, you should be making a dinner for your husbands or boyfriends. I CRAVE THE BREASTS! Of turkeys! I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ALL THE DIVAS OF THE WWE UNIVERSE UNITE AND PREPARE ME A MEAL OF EPIC PROPORTIONS!
Jesse - I’M IN CHARGE TONIGHT! AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN TURN BACK THE CLOCK OF TIME! IF WE CAN ROTATE IT BACK ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS ON THE BROADCAST TEAM OF THE THEN-WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION! HERE’S MY BROADCAST PARTNER! BACK ON THE MIC WHERE HE BELONGS, VINCE MCMAHON! THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL TIE! It looks like a moron, and a moron would wear it! (Vince is just befuddled)
Vince - WHAT A BATTLE ROYAL!
Vince - Should I call you the Governor?
Jesse - YES, THAT WOULD BE THE PROPER THING TO DO! DO IT BEFORE I TELL YOU THE CATCHPHRASE THAT PEOPLE SENT ME LETTERS ABOUT FOR 20 YEARS - SHUT UP, MCMAHON!
Vince - There’s a man who doesn’t deserve to be in the battle royal, Randy Orton.
Jesse - Yeah, I broke the rule. I’m sure you know about that - you’ve broken every rule in entertainment!
Vince - I’ve never broken a rule in my life!
Jesse - You gotta be smart to be in a battle royal and not take damage.
Vince - You were like that, right?
Jesse - OF COURSE, I WAS A GOVERNOR!
Vince - I WAS A BILLIONAIRE!
Jesse - IT AIN’T ALL ABOUT MONEY, MCMAHON!
Vince - No, but it might help with your grammar!
Jesse - I only see one problem with Sheamus - he needs a sun tan. Has his skin never seen the sun?
Vince - IT HAS COME DOWN TO THREE - ORTON, SHEAMUS, AND THE YOUNG MAN WHO HAS IMPRESSED SO MANY - KOFI! Orton has to be the favorite.
Jesse - You’re sure Orton’s gonna win?
Vince - I’m not sure of anything.
Jesse - HOW DARE YOU CALL ME, A VIETNAM VETERAN, A COWARD!
Vince - I didn’t say that.
Jesse - You insinuated. I know you and your insinuations!
Vince - JUST LIKE I SAID, ORTON ELMINATED!
Jesse - You didn’t say that!
Vince - NO, BUT I WAS THINKING IT!
Vince - SHEAMUS WILL FACE JOHN CENA FOR THE WWE CHAMPIONSHIP!
Jesse - I’m gonna go up there with my integrity and make sure these contracts are signed!
Vince - You’re gonna be naked? Never mind…
Jesse - SOMETIMES, YOU MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL!
Jesse - Sheamus is not only undefeated - he has taken people out of this business!
 
Maryse taking 3 hours to take off the $$$$er suit got about the same reaction as Sheamus at the end of the show. Neither one had the benefit of their music covering up the silence however.
 
[quote name='pimpster4183']Shamus is getting pushed and he is not over at all. That match will def. sell some ppvs lol[/QUOTE]

Which in turn the WWE can say "oh look we pushed someone new into the main event and it didn't work" to the IWC. Despite the fact that Shamus has been on TV for what six months maybe a year tops. I dunno how long he's been on since I don't follow the ten trillion hours a week of TV the WWE airs. Five trillion of those hours is RAW Rebound highlight packages.
 
[quote name='rickshankshaw']HHH and Kozlov weren't workout buddies though.

Sheamus next champion. Calling it.[/QUOTE]

Bull and you know it, this match was made to see if Sheamus can handle the pressure of a main event spot, no one expects him to win. This is all about how Sheamus can carry a main event level match.
 
Judging by her recent Twitter entries and her background baring the UFC logo, Ashley Massaro might be heading to UFC.. ring girl or something? I dunno.
 
-- A correspondent report at ProWrestling.net says that security for Monday's WWE RAW event confiscated a sign that read, "Cena sucks."

Love it when they're protecting their greatest investment. :lol:
 
As we've reported over the past few weeks, Rey Mysterio's knee is in bad shape and he is expected to have surgery on his ACL shortly.

Batista's brutal attack on Mysterio after their match at Survivor Series and the stretcher job that followed was the setup for him taking time off.

Many within WWE are concerned that this may be it for Mysterio's career. He could be out up to 6-9 months from the surgery, but the full extent of his recovery will not be known until after the procedure.

Mysterio, who recently returned to action following a 30-day Wellness suspension, might miss Wrestlemania 26. Should he miss Wrestlemania, it would be the third time in the past four years that he'd miss WWE's showcase event due to injuries.

Also, who's got the new topic?
 
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