The 'Jimmy King' Wrestling Thread

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I get them from ROH when they're doing a 40% off sale - they're usually worth it because they're very rewatchable, which isn't the case for their Guest Booker series.
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']Mind if I go on and call the next thread? I've got a great idea for honoring a true unsung hero in professional wrestling.[/QUOTE]

as long as it is "The Charles Robinson Wrestling Thread"
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']EDIT - Looked it up, it's just the office.

...although thinking of that reminds me of when Al Snow was looking for his "lost dog" and held up a flier on Raw with Val Venis' cell number. That's a fucking rib and a half.[/QUOTE]

I just read that story a few days ago in Foley Is Good.

[quote name='Purple Flames']Mind if I go on and call the next thread? I've got a great idea for honoring a true unsung hero in professional wrestling.[/QUOTE]

Have at it, it's all yours.
 
Everything involving Flair was fucking awesome. From his entrance with "WRESTLING GOD" in the graphic, to his promo, to taking the back elbows from Morgan and then recovering...only to Flair flop! Never gets old. The only bad part about this is they didn't build up a Flair match at all before tonight - before, even if it's been on TV, it's been built up for at least a week. Oh well, at least what was here was mostly great. The match itself was fine, but I think Morgan missed the pump kick - they had to go to a super long-shot of it.

The opener was worlds better than last week's mixed tag match - thank God they focused on the Guns and GenMe and just had the chicks to a catfight spot. Tara's crush on GenMe was funny, largely due to the faces Max made. Mickie-Angelina was pretty good by recent KOs standards, and Mickie looked unbelievably hot throughout. Winter teasing a lesbian partnership with Angelina - also hot.

Jarrett's MMA deal was pretty stupid. It looked ridiculous, and while they were trying to mock MMA, the joke's on them. UFC, ON THE SAME NETWORK, is flourishing, while they're floundering. Jarrett citing big names from over a decade ago made the company seem even more outdated, although at least the Shamrock mention made sense within TNA, and the Brock plug was pretty damned contemporary by their standards.

Hardy-Raven was short, but served its purpose. Unfortunately, it also led to Dreamer acting sad. AND MAD. Then Rhino came out and they yelled. Dreamer called Rhino, RHINO of all people ONE OF THE GREATEST ATHLETES IN TNA HISTORY. What. The. fuck. Dude wasn't even the best athlete in EV2. Rhino beat up Dreamer, then RVD came out, THE FORMER WORLD CHAMPION, and got punked by Rhino. So Rhino beats two dudes up in order to save his job and feed his family - um...how can I hate this guy? He despises Dreamer, wants to beat up a stoner, and is trying to provide for his family.

Reaction was something. Hogan's promo was a bit odd - he was trying to put over things as being real...I think, but then ranted about kayfabe, and real, fake belts, slamming the 700 pound giant and selling out Shea Stadium. So now, not only is Andre even bigger than he was in reality, but he's morphed into Bruno Sammartio as well. Oh, and he buried Team 3D's "greatest tag team ever" deal dead, just completely dead, by saying that no one cares about "34 fake title reigns". What. The. fuck. WHY THE fuck DID THAT MAKE IT ON THE AIR?

Then there's the GenMe-Guns brawl, which had some neat stuff in it like a guardrail-involved Sliced Bread spot, then the Guns just went completely insane and tied Max Buck up to the post while he's on his knees. They superkick his head in, and the brave Max says no, HE HASN'T HAD ENOUGH, so they double superkick his face in and he has no choice but to pass out from the pain. HOW IS HE A HEEL? The supposed faces mocked him, beat the shit out of him without mercy and said they'd kill him. The face-heel dynamic in TNA is usually screwy, but tonight it was especially dumb. Also, despite bringing up a million times how Hogan and Bischoff might be pissed at Flair for risking Hardy's title in his match, it never got brought up once in THREE HOURS OF TV.

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Quotes from the Morgan Wooo's The Nature Boy Impact -
Hardy - I BLAME THE CHEERS FOR MY PAIN!
Hardy - This place without me is shit.
Flair - Oh my God, another packed house! FOR IMMORTAL, FORTUNE, AND THE NATURE BOY!Well, I gotta hot topic on my hands right now. I’m talking about Matt Morgan. Morgan, you didn’t like the ref at Turning Point, said you got screwed, then you punched Fortune, AND ME. ME AND THE HULKSTER AND ERIC BISCHOFF HAVE DECIDED TO APOINT A SPECIAL REF FOR YOUR REMATCH. Guess who that’ll be? IT’LL BE ME, MORGAN! You will be refereed, THINK ABOUT THIS, BY GOD, BY GOD, AND KNOWING that you don’t like this, I don’t want you walking around complaining. Bring your big, lanky ass out here. Problem?
Tenay - I’m not as concerned with bad counts as I am about Flair being impartial.
Flair - What do you call me when you see me in the hallway? SHUT UP, I’M TALKING. You say, hey Naitch - NAITCH PRIVALEDGE HAS BEEN REVOKED. That’s for friends! Don’t look at the crowd - LOOK AT ME. WHY WOULD YOU TURN YOUR FACE AWAY FROM GOD!? When you go to wrestler’s heaven, YOU GO THROUGH GOD, OKAY? I could have Fortune come out and kick your ass, JUST LIKE THAT, OH YEAH. But, hey, don’t be lookin! KEEP YOUR EYES ON GOD!
Crowd - WOOO!
Flair - But, I being Ric Flair, I’ve never asked someone to do something I couldn’t do, so if you want that rematch, you gotta beat me tonight buddy! Right here. YOU GOTTA BEAT THE NATURE BOY.
Morgan - That’s number 1 on my bucket list - so hell yeah.
Flair - I’M YOUR BUCKET… WOAHHH! I’M GONNA MAKE YOU REGRET THE DAY YOU TURNED YOUR BACK ON FORTUNE AND DECIDED TO BECOME A GOOD GUY. IF YOU WERE STANDING NEXT TO HOGAN, HE’D HAVE BITCH SLAPPED YA. WHEN YOU WALK TO THAT LOCKER ROOM AND YOUR NUTS SHRINK UP, YOU’LL KNOW IT’S CUZ YOU’RE WRESTLING GOD. RIC FLAIR. GOD! I GOT YOUR BUCKET LIST.
Morgan - I’m not gonna do my talking now, I’m gonna do it later when I stick this size 18 up your ass!
Flair - WWOOOOAH! SEE YOU TONIGHT!
Tara - I’ll be watching you guys closely… (she slaps GenMe on the ass)
Taz - Sabin has something In common with that second rope - he’s hanging and banging with Velvet Sky.
Taz - They’ve been dating for a long time, which Is why I’ve never liked or favored Chris Sabin.
Tenay - All of the above.
Taz - HOLY FOOT-CRUSHING YAMBAG ACTION!
Taz - Max Buck, that lucky SOB, just got headscissored by Velvet Sky!
Taz - Sabin got screwed, but at least he’s still got Velvet.
Tenay - What’s this? JEFF JARRETT’S DECKED OUT IN MMA GEAR!?
Shelley - ON REACTION, LET’S SETTLE THIS! EMPTY ARENA!
Jarrett - My newfound MMA love means that Hulk and Eric want a Double J Double M-A exhibition! Angle said if he lost, he’d retire. BULLSHIT! This company is run correctly now. WE’RE GONNA MAKE IT PROFITABLE! FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL!
JB - IT IS NOW TIME FOR THE DOUBLE J, DOUBLE M-A EXHBITION!
(lanky guys walk out) Taz - I guess that’d be the students.
Taz - They came outta his dojo. Or wherever he trains.
JB - Mr. Jarrett has asked me to inform you that what you about to witness is an exhibition - the moves will be performed by professionals.
Jarrett - KEITH IN THE TRUCK, PUT A DISCLAIMER UP SO THE HEARING IMPAIRED CAN UNDERSTAND.
Jarrett - JB, I know you haven’t been in a fight - I’VE BEEN IN THOUSANDS!
Crowd - BORING!
Jarrett - YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE THIS - MY BUDDY FRANK MADE BIG BROCK TAP TO THIS!
Jarrett - This move - THE ANKLE LOCK, has been perfected by a guy I know very well. A champion all over the world.
Crowd - ANGLE!
Jarrett - HE’S BEEN A CHAMPION IN TNA. AND HE’S LITERALLY PERFECTED THE ANKLE LOCK. AND IT TOOK HIM YEARS - TOOK ME MONTHS. THAT’S RIGHT - KEN SHAMROCK!
Jarrett - Rear naked choke, maybe I’ve done the naked rear choke in the bedroom, but there’s one guy who’s perfected this. ROYCE GRACIE!
Joe - JEFF, YOU SAID SILLY SON OF A BITCH. LET’S STOP WASTING TIME AND YOU SPAR WITH ME.
Jarrett - Joe, if you want me so bad, I’ll one-up ya. I’VE GOT TWO STUDENTS LEFT, YOU BEAT THEM, THEN TONIGHT, IT’S YOU AND ME IN A SUBMISSION MATCH TONIGHT.
Tenay - You can hear Jarrett yell SHOOT ON HIM, SHOOT ON HIM!
Taz - That kid’s blocking Joe’s punches with his body.
Kendrick - Raven, I saw birds outside my window today. It could be nothing, but I think it means you’ll win.
Raven - Well, someone’s gotta give the bird to the Immortals…(flips them off)
Dreamer - Get him SCOTTY!
JB - The following contest is your featured event of the evening. AND NOW, FROM UNIVERSAL STUDIOS, IT’S TIME FOR YOUR FEATURED MATCHUP OF THE EVENING. Introducing, weighing in a 235 pounds, from CAMERON, NC, HE IS THE CHARISMATIC ENIGMA, THE SELF-PROCLAIMED ANTI-CHRIST OF PRO WRESTLING, AND HE, SINCE 10-10-10 IS THE UNDEFEATED, UNDISPUTED TNA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD - JEFF HARDY! And his opponent - Raven.
Tenay - That was a balance introduction.
Taz - Well, he’s obviously not a Raven fan.
Tenay - RAVEN’S GONNA GO DISCUS!
Hogan - This Is quite appropriate for the occasion - DIXIE SAID THAT THIS WORTHLESS EV2 WITH RAVEN MEANT TO WRESTLING WHAT HOGAN MEANT TO WRESTLING. WELL NOW IT’S APPROPRIATE FOR YOUR CRYBABY CRAP. WHAT ABOUT ME!? WAH WAH WAH! WHAT ABOUT ME? WELL, YOU’RE FIRED RAVEN. QUOTE THE HULKSTER, NEVERMORE! THIS IS WRESTLING. THIS IS THE ANTI-CHRIST!
Dreamer - RHINO, YOU GOT SOME EXPLAINING TO DO SO GET OUT HERE NOW!
1 guy - DREAAAMMMEERRRR! TOMMMY! TOMMYYY!
Rhino - You want me to explain myself? Well ya know something Tommy, you, Rob, and all the EV2 guys KNEW that after Turning Point, MY CONTRACT HERE WAS EXPIRED! DID YOU CARE? NO! BUT THE ONLY MEMBER OR THE ONLY PERSON THAT CARED WAS ERIC BISCHOFF! He gave me a choice - employment or unemployment. I’ll be honest with you, AND I’M AN HONEST MAN, I TOLD HIM HE COULD KISS MY ASS, but I realized after I thought about it, I was here YEARS before Dreamer and RVD! (fans cheer) And what happens when you come here? You stole the spotlight AND THE GLORY. I BECAME AN AFTERTHOUGHT. I HOPE MY ACTIONS MADE YOU REALIZE THAT I DON’T TAKE A BACKSEAT TO NOBODY, AND I MEAN NOBODY!
Dreamer - I never said you t ook a backseat to anyone. YOU’RE ONE OF THE GREATEST ATHLETES TO EVER STEP FOOT INTO A TNA RING. YOU’ER THE WAR MACHINE FOR A REASON.
Rhino - YEAH, CUZ I KICK ASS.
Dreamer - RVD and I came here cuz we were offered a deal by Dixie. WE WANT TO PROVE IT’S THE BEST DAMN WRESTLING COMPANY IN THE WORLD TODAY. WE CAME TO TNA BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN TNA AND BELIEVE IN ALL THE GUYS IN THE BACK. AND THE FACT that your contract expired Is just part of the business - we had nothing to do with that, but we did something we said WE’D never do - YOU SOLD OUT FOR THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR!
Rhino - I SOLD OUT. ARE YOU GONNA TAKE CARE OF MY GIRL? NO. DESPERATE PEOPLE DO DIFFERENT THINGS. WHEN YOU WERE LIVING IN YOUR OWN WORLD, DID YOU NOTICE THAT MY CAREER WAS IN JEOPARDY? NO, YOU THOUGHT ABOUT YOURSELVES. NOW, I’M JUST GONNA THINK ABOUT IS MYSELF!
Dreamer - YOU’RE RIGHT. I get the part about taking care of your daughter Kayla, BUT YOU, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO SABU, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO RAVEN. WE ARE IN HULK AND BISCHOFF’S MERCY - WE’RE IN THIS TOGETHE.R But the difference Is Sabu and Raven went down with a fight - you just quit. You quit on us, and EACH OF THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUPPORTED YOU YOUR ENTIRE CAREER.
Taz - Moore lives by the DILLIGAF lifestyle.
Tenay - He’s in GRAVE DANGER - pun intended.
Taz - Close, but no rigermortis.
1 guy - GET HIM ABYSS, YOU GOT THIS.
Taz - POPE IS TRYING TO SLAP THE EVIL OFF ABYSS’S FACE!
Tenay - Matt Morgan faces Ric Flair AND WE WILL HEAR FROM BROTHER RAY.
Tenay - Angelina goes for that BOTOX-TYPE INJECTION KICK.
(after a Mickie rana)Taz - SNAPPEROONI!
Winter - Angelina, I think it’s time that you and I really got to know each other...
Ray - WHY BROTHER RAY, WHY? THAT SEEMS TO BE THE QUESTION ON EVERYONE’S MIND. WHY’D YOU KICK DEVON IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD!? Because I can! I guess I’ll give you an explanation because I’m in a good mood. 15 YEARS AGO I CREATED THE GREATEST TAG TEAM FINISHING MOVE IN HISTORY. IT COULD BEAT ANYONE AT ANYTIME IN ANY KIND OF MATCH. A MOVE THAT WON ME 23 WORLD TAG TEAM TITLES. THAT MOVE - THE 3D - THE DUDLEY DEATH DROP! EVERYBODY HAS FALLEN TO THE 3D. Dreamer. Sabu. RVD. TAZ! Terry Funk. The Undertaker. Austin. The Hardys. Edge and Christian. The APA. The Rock. Jeff Jarrett. Samoa Joe. Even Kurt Angle. 3D - 1-2-3! Nobody ever kicked out. Until you Sabin. Sabin, don’t blow smoke up your ass just yet - you didn’t kick outta 3D cuz you’re a better wrestler, or a tougher wrestler. YOU KICKED OUT CUZ DEVON WAS WEAK! HE’S ALWAYS BEEN WEAK. HE’S ALWAYS BEEN THE WEAK LINK OF THE TEAM. I WAS THE STAR OF TEAM 3D. HE WAS THE CO-STAR. DEVON NEVER STOOD BY MY SIDE - HE STOOD TWO STEPS BEHIND ME WHERE HE BELONGS.
Crowd - WE WANT DEVON!
Ray - Let me put this into perspective for you, Devon, so you can understand. I’M THE SHAWN MICHAELS - YOU’RE THE MARTY JANNETTY! And for all you people going WHO THE HELL IS MARTY JANNETTY!? Exactly. You’re a nobody, and if It wasn’t for me, you’d go nowhere. ANYONE OF OUR BROTHERS COULD’VE BEEN OUR BROTHER - RUNT, BIG DICK, IT DIDN’T MATTER. When I think about it, it’s crystal-clear - you’re just a sidekick! YOU’RE NOTHING MORE THAN A GUY WHO GOT MY TABLES!
Taz - A rare in-ring wrestling performance from Ric Flair!
Tenay - If Morgan doesn’t win, he’s SOL.
Taz - Might want to explain what that means.
Tenay - Bleep Outta Luck.
Taz - Flair drills Morgan in the yam bag region.
Taz - Doug’s not taking part In this.
Tenay - So It’s only 4 on 1?
Taz - Biggest win of his career - MATT MORGAN JUST BEAT RIC FLAIR!

Reaction quotes -
Hogan - It’s pathetic what Dixie allowed this company to become.
Jarrett - WHEN THE TIME COMES, YOU MAKE THEM PAY TO SEE IT. WHAT’S THERE NOT TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT!?
Raven - 22 years in this sport, and as long as I can hold up, I’d like one more shot. I’ll still be wrestling - it’s not the same without a TV audience. The ring is my canvas - hundreds, thousands, isn’t enough - I need millions watching.
Hogan - THEY MEAN TO PRO WRESTLING WHAT HULK HOGAN IS!? WHO SOLD OUT SHEA STADIUM, WHO PACKED 94,000 INTO THE SILVERDOME TO SLAM THE 700 POUND GIANT!? IT’S REAL. IT’S GETTING REAL! KAYFABE? I’VE WON 34 TAG BELTS - WHO CARES HOW MANY FAKE BELTS YOU’VE WON!?
Jarrett - I know what’s best for you - we’re not in Hollywood, bitch!
Moore - DO I LOOK LIKE I GIVE A fuck!? DILLIGAF. I’M NOT AFRAID OF ANYBODY - WHETHER IT’S AT A GROCERY STORE OR AT MY HOUSE!
Pope - I’m gonna remove the piss stain from TNA is that is Apyss. Did I say Apyss? Abyss, THAT’S YOUR NEW NAME.
Hardy - When Mr. Hogan tells me to jump, I say how high!
Shelley - WE ARE GONNA KILL YOU!
 
I would love to watch the full X Pac shoot video, but I damn sure aint paying for it.


Serious question:

Do you tell other people about your love of wrestling? I started a new career recently, and a lot of my co workers are into wrestling. My last job, nobody understood why I watched it, and all I could say in defense was that I've been watching it since I was a little kid, and I'm just used to watching it.

So my real question is in 2 parts. Do you tell others about your love of wrestling, and how do you explain it to someone who just doesn't get it?
 
[quote name='masked lemon']I would love to watch the full X Pac shoot video, but I damn sure aint paying for it.


Serious question:

Do you tell other people about your love of wrestling? I started a new career recently, and a lot of my co workers are into wrestling. My last job, nobody understood why I watched it, and all I could say in defense was that I've been watching it since I was a little kid, and I'm just used to watching it.

So my real question is in 2 parts. Do you tell others about your love of wrestling, and how do you explain it to someone who just doesn't get it?[/QUOTE]
Right now I have a love/hate thing going on with wrestling. I like it primarily for the 'Divas/Knockouts(whenever I remember TNA is on:whistle2:#)' anymore, but as soon as they start with too much yippity yap or a match seems to have a pretty predictable ending(judging by the announcers bringing up that 'they're feuding with so n so') then I flip the channels to see what else is on.

If TNA would actually get someone with some real money behind them and get the chutzpah to fire the assholes that tend to keep it looking more like the 90's WCW and less like something that could be innovative, then I'd be intrigued to watch both products again.

But as it stands, unless we can go back in time and stop Time Warner from selling WCW and stop ECW from failing and their assets being sold to WWE corporate, then this trend of me finding something better to watch 99% of the time is gonna continue. I'd like to see another company come outta nowhere and give both real competition and have them have to step up their game a bit.

And wtf is up with those giant oversized tag belts on WWE now? They look like giant pennies and very cheap.
 
I watch wrestling clips at my job and dare someone to say something

Literally. I sense a comment and I just glare at them. The comment goes away and they just smile...


I don't talk about a grown ass man(men) watching glee....and they don't bother me about my wrestling
 
BREAKING NEWS: Last night, The Cheap Ass Gamer Wrestling Thread paid as little attention to an episode of iMPACT as they have since Bound For Glory. One single, solitary post was dedicated to the show last night. That definitely can't be viewed as a good thing when dedicated wrestling fans don't bother to tune in. We asked TNA star, Hulk Hogan for a comment on this development.
[quote name='Hulk Hogan']
Well, you know somthing, Brother, brother brother brotherbrotherbrother BROTHER brother CHANGE THE FACE OF TNA FOREVER brother brother BROTHERBROTHER! Whacha gonna do, BROTHER?[/QUOTE]

TNA = Dead. Come and absorb the body, WWE.

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Shad Gaspard from Smackdown was released by the WWE.
 
Hmm. I can't help but feel that somewhere along the way, Gaspard pissed someone off. He was a competent big man, was in line for a big heel push, and then was utterly dropped. Wasn't he down in FCW for a while? It's just rare to see a guy de-pushed as quickly as him, especially when they went through the trouble of repackaging him. Strange. Even stranger is that JTG is still employed, and I always viewed him as the least valuable of the two.

I'm not shocked by Gallows. He's a guy that is okay, but the gimmicks they saddled him with were always going to be the death of his career. Fake Kane, which was dropped quickly, Festus, who had no real ability to factor into anything, and then Gallows, who would obviously be dropped immediatly once seperated from Punk. In fact, looking back on that, I'm amazed he hung on this long.

Either way, not big losses.
 
That's what she gets thinking he's popular enough to cause a ruckus before Summerslam....

If you're not Randy Orton....you can't do shit!
 
Shame to see Gallows go after all the hard work he did to get to the shape he was in and the improvement in his ring work. Also sad to see Archer go, he could've became a great heel if given the right direction.

And while I hate to see one of the Dudebusters gone at least Trent is still there, who was the better of the two IMO. Maybe they'll team him up with Ryder or something, that's be awesome. Anyway, this has been a pretty big hit to Smackdown's roster. Hopefully no one else goes.
 
[quote name='crr_1119'] Also sad to see Archer go, he could've became a great heel if given the right direction.

[/QUOTE]

Lower. Back. Tattoo.

That sealed it, man. I don't know about anyone else, but I literally would NEVER be able to take him seriously unless he wore something to completely cover that up. Even the slightest hint of it and I'm done. I truly believe that it killed any ability for him to get over. Ever.

Even on Smackdown 2011 it bugs the shit out of me.
 
[quote name='strongpimphand']I watch wrestling clips at my job and dare someone to say something

Literally. I sense a comment and I just glare at them. The comment goes away and they just smile...


I don't talk about a grown ass man(men) watching glee....and they don't bother me about my wrestling[/QUOTE]

Thanks for sharing. You're clearly a valuable asset at work.
 
[quote name='007']Lower. Back. Tattoo.

That sealed it, man. I don't know about anyone else, but I literally would NEVER be able to take him seriously unless he wore something to completely cover that up. Even the slightest hint of it and I'm done. I truly believe that it killed any ability for him to get over. Ever.

Even on Smackdown 2011 it bugs the shit out of me.[/QUOTE]

Yea I guess he should have did a better job of keeping that covered up. It seems most people mainly know him for being the male wrestler with a tramp stamp. :razz:
 
I had no idea who Vance Archer was but I heard male tramp stamp and immediately thought of Dallas/Lance Hoyt. Amazing how it's the same guy hahaha!
 
[quote name='davo1224']I had no idea who Vance Archer was but I heard male tramp stamp and immediately thought of Dallas/Lance Hoyt. Amazing how it's the same guy hahaha![/QUOTE]

Hahaha...!

Honestly, Mister Hoyt should just change his legal name to LBT, or elongated, Lower Back Tattoo. He could come out in an old-timey suit, with the lower back cut out, and mimic Lyndon B. Johnson.

Big Dick Johnson, Shad, Luke Gallows, Vance Archer, Caylen Croft, Jillian, and Tiffany. I'll definitely miss Tiffany the most, as she was one of the more attractive females on WWE TV. It's weird to keep Trent Baretta but toss Caylen Croft. Perhaps they're going to again team Curt Hawkins with Trent Baretta, and form a new tag team? That would be interesting to see.

I'm exceptionally pleased to see Shad and Luke Gallows cut from the budget. Those two guys had no place in WWE.

I read something about Zack Ryder listed amongst "WWE Alumni" in WWE's online store. I would be against releasing Ryder, as he's solid mid-card enhancement talent. He can work well, has a great character, and is semi-interesting on the mic. Plus, his entrance music is one of the most iconic themes in WWE history.
 
I hope Gallows does well outside of WWE - dude lost a ton of weight, reinvented his look, and was a solid hand in the ring. Shad didn't do much for me, and the only time I care about Archer is when HOYTAMANIA was running wild in the Impact Zone like six years ago. It peaked with him hitting a Van Terminator and getting a two count. Jillian's gone too - HOW WILL SHE PAY FOR MORE PLASTIC SURGERY NOW!?
 
We should do odds or something on who ends up in TNA... you know it's going to happen. And who does TNA cut to hire these guys? I think TNA will cut Red, Lethal, Stevie, and Hamada then hire Gallows, Jillian, and possibly bring back Archer since he has history with the company and now has that fresh WWE shine on him. :)
 
I wonder if Jillian's release has to do with her training the girls in FCW - something similar happened with I think Al Snow a few years ago, he was released from his talent contract and signed a new one as a trainer right after.
 
[quote name='OnyxPrimal']We should do odds or something on who ends up in TNA... you know it's going to happen. And who does TNA cut to hire these guys? I think TNA will cut Red, Lethal, Stevie, and Hamada then hire Gallows, Jillian, and possibly bring back Archer since he has history with the company and now has that fresh WWE shine on him. :)[/QUOTE]
The odds are 5-to-1 that Luke Gallows ends up in TNA. And if he does end up in TNA, odds are 2-to-1 that his ring name will be "Luke Galleon" and he'll have a pirate gimmick.
 
[quote name='diddy310']I wonder if Jillian's release has to do with her training the girls in FCW - something similar happened with I think Al Snow a few years ago, he was released from his talent contract and signed a new one as a trainer right after.[/QUOTE]


That is a good point. I had forgotten about how WWE handles their contracted.

[quote name='BlueSwim']The odds are 5-to-1 that Luke Gallows ends up in TNA. And if he does end up in TNA, odds are 2-to-1 that his ring name will be "Luke Galleon" and he'll have a pirate gimmick.[/QUOTE]


If TNA also hires Paul Burchill, we'll have the Scalawags, lead by, head wench, Jilliyan Haul.

:cold:
 
I'd be very surprised if any of them end up in TNA with the possible exception of Lance Hoyt/Rock and that's only due to his history.
 
There's tons of guys WWE has released that TNA hasn't hired. I doubt any of those will show up. The only ones I'd like to see would be Helms and Matt Hardy. WWE takes a lot of TNA releases, but all get stupid gimmicks and get released later on. Archer, Harris from AMW, Austin Creed has a teacher gimmick. I haven't really watched WWE lately, so I'm not sure what Low Ki is doing now.
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']Wow, Low-Ki got a jobber entrance but managed to win one. Color me surprised.[/QUOTE]What was the deal with that finish? Why didn't the ref count before Kaval countered for the win? Did he have a shoulder up? I missed it on the replay.
 
[quote name='neocisco']Thanks for sharing. You're clearly a valuable asset at work.[/QUOTE]
Why yes I am. Thanks for noticing!
 
[quote name='Chase']If TNA also hires Paul Burchill, we'll have the Scalawags, lead by, head wench, Jilliyan Haul.

:cold:[/QUOTE]

I'm still sad that Burchill has disappeared from the American wrestling scene after his release from WWE.
 
TNA should get the World's Greatest Tag Team and pick up Burchill to pair with Douglas Williams. It's the one division they don't manage to fuck up on a regular basis.
 
Enjoyed the show more than I was expecting to based on the spoilers. Edge's bits with Bearer were enjoyable, and gave Edge's character a darker side that he's needed for a while. It was like a wacky horror movie, only instead of using a giant machete (or nail-filled 2X4) as a weapon, he used a soccer ball, pizza, hot wings, and brownies. MVP-Drew was good, and I'm glad that MVP got a win. Sure sucks to be Drew though. Master-Swagger was very good. They put Masters over huge for improving so much over the past year, and I hope they someday do something with him beyond using him as an enhancement guy. He'd be a fine IC-level wrestler if they give him a chance. Dolph-Kaval was short, but decent while it lasted. It made sense to keep it short since it was building up a PPV defense, but the match itself suffered for it. Glad to see Kaval get a chance at a title though, even though he probably won't win.

Kofi-Cody was enjoyable, and Striker's pillow-biter comment towards Cole was quite surprising. Cody's chain of gourdbusters ruled, and I loved how much intensity he put behind them. The women's tag was a match - too short to be anything. Amusing commentary though. Kane crying over his father was something else - you never see that out of Kane, and it made this match with Edge seem important. It's a shame it felt like such an afterthought before, and the feud is stuck on SD, because they made it seem like a big deal right before the PPV and could have drawn some money for them if SD's ratings weren't so bad.

Show-Reks was really short, but made Show look like a star without completely burying Reks - a point that only really got through due to the commentary putting him over. The Cena-centric Barrett-Orton video was fantastic. It went on seemingly forever, but told the story it needed to tell well. Edge dangling Bearer like a carrot to a rabbi was amusing, and further built up Kane losing his mind for the PPV match. Rey-Alberto, for the few minutes it lasted, ruled. This is the sleeper feud of the year, and one of the few that definitely made a star. Loved Striker bringing up Alberto's father without referencing him as that. The show-closing battle royal made sense given the schmozz ending, and allowed Del Rio to not win without losing by pin, but it was certainly worse than the advertised main event would have been.

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Striker - Alberto is the captain of the VERY PRESTIGIOUS TEAM DEL RIO AT SURVIVOR SERIES!
Alberto - MY NAME IS ALBERTO DEL RIO! BUT YOU, YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT! Finally, after twenty four years, Survivor Series is gonna be great. It’s gonna be great because the superstar of the show is gonna be me! Alberto Del Rio! AND IT’S GONNA BE GREAT cuz I’m gonna lead TEEEAAAAMMM DEL RIIOOOO to the victory. AND WE GONNA DESTROY REY AND HIS LITTLE KIN. But hey, Rey’s not the only one who likes to be destroyed. Some people likes to learn the hard way - and who’s better than me to teach them a lesson - just like I did on Raw.
Cole - Tito and Chavo Sr. supported Alberto last night.
Alberto - I took your little hero, little action figure, Sgt. Slaughter, AND I MADE HIM CRY. Hey, because when it comes to heroes, I AM YOUR HERO!
MVP - Alberto, can you hear that? THAT’S THE WWE UNIVERSE SAYING MVP, PLEASE PUNCH ALBERTO RIGHT IN HIS MOUTH. Cuz the WWE UNIVERSE, like myself, are tired of you disrespecting this ring and everything It represents. We’ve seen this act before.
Alberto - MVP, there’s no one like me out there.
MVP - Guys like you are a dime a dozen, and you’re too foolish to realize that it’s the Slaughters, the Chavo Classics, Tito Santanas, Pipers, Rhodes, THAT PAVED THE WAY FOR YOU AND YOUR BIG MOUTH. But since you’re so busy popping off about who you are, you don’t realize it isn’t a drop In the bucket compared to the WWE Legends and the Universe they built - the one we live in.
Alberto - MVP, the only reason you have those legends in the highest regard, it’s because you’re never gonna be one of them. And me, I’m already a legend.
MVP - You’re already a legend? Well, then you won’t mind if we get Survivor Series started early with me giving you a legendary beat down!
Alberto - Maybe that sounds like a great idea to you. It sounds like a great Idea to them, and tonight, there’s gonna be a fight. But it’s not gonna be you and me. That fight is gonna be Alberto against a little chiuaa REY MYSTERIO! MVP, even if I wasn’t in a match already - you can face it - you, can’t handle this.
Wait wait wait. You really want a fight tonight? So I’m gonna bring you someone from Team Del Rio. I’M GONNA BRING YOU THE CHOSEN ONE DREW MCINTYRE!
Edge - I’ve gotten reports that Kane has gone crazy. I BET HE’S PULLING HIS HAIR OUT. Well, if he had any. We should have a drag race - COME ON PAUL! Didn’t like that game? WANNA PLAY TRIVIAL PURSUIT!? JENGA! WAIT - I have a better idea…
Kane - WHERE IS MY FATHER, TEDDY!?
Teddy - I have no idea.
Kane - HE’S IN RICHMOND!
Teddy - I don’t know where he is.
Striker - Think of everyone who has used the full nelson - Hercules Hernandez, Billy Jack Haynes - HAS ANYONE USED IT BETTER!?
Cole - It was over two years before anyone could break the Master Lock!
Cole - Masters was, at first, all power, but now he’s well-rounded.
Cole - Every time I watch that movie, I laugh more and more.
Striker - They named it after you.
Striker - THAT’S A SOCCER BALL - IT’S FULL OF 12 POUNDS OF AIR PRESSURE.
Dolph - After Monday, all of my problems are behind me. I’M STILL UNDEFEATED AS IC CHAMP, I’VE GOT THE HOTTEST GIRLFRIEND IN THE WORLD. EXCUSE ME, BUT I’M ON A ROLL. ON OLD SCHOOL RAW, I DOMINATED ALL 500 POUNDS OF SEXUAL CHOCOLATE. And coming in at under five feet, Kaval, your chances are zero. Although I’m sure your internet fan boys think you’re special - BUT YOU’RE NOT ME. I’M DOLPH ZIGGLER, AND YOU’RE A NOBODY.
Striker - The obtuse love triangle, with one side being bigger than the other, is over.
Cole - KAVAL TOILED IN THE MINOR LEAGUES AND ALL HIS INTERNET GEEK FANS STUFFED THE BALLOT BOX TO MAKE HIM WIN NXT SEASON 2!
Striker - Vickie’s wearing purple and looks like Barney.
Cole - HEY, YOU WON ONE MATCH. GIVE IT A REST!
Striker - ONE WWE WIN IS WORTH MORE THAN ANY OTHER WIN.
Kaval - Dolph, remember that no one you talked about? WELL, HE JUST BEAT YOU AND NOT TOO LONG AGO, HE WON NXT. And a title match at a PPV of his choice. Well guess what - I’VE MADE MY DECISION. This Sunday, it’s gonna be me and you. I’M GONNA BEAT YOU ONCE AGAIN AND BECOME THE BRAND-NEW INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION!
Edge - Paul, you look like you could miss a meal or eight, but I’ve gotta be ready for this…
Grisham - There’s no question as to why Rey picked Kofi Kingston on his team - HE IS PERHAPS the most exciting superstar in WWE.
Striker - When I was a kid, I ate so many green Jolly Ranchers to get my tongue green.
Cole - When I was a kid, I used to bite turnbuckles.
Striker - I thought you bit pillows?
Striker - Great gourd buster from Cody. Shades of Double A. He should go in the hall of fame - why not?
Striker - THE BROOKLYN BRAWLER IS TRENDING ON TWITTER!
Striker - Kaval will face Dolph at the Survivor Series. My syrupy stack of pancakes, Vickie, will probably be there.
Cole - Do you sit in a dark room and think of these things?
Grisham - It’s a jail cell.
Striker - They let me out to do commentary.
(after Cody uses the tights and hair to win)Cole - There’s no Instant replay here.
Striker - We just saw one…
Striker - What were the descriptors used by Mae towards LayCool?
Cole - We can’t say them on Friday Night SmackDown.
Grisham - This is gonna be a preview for Sunday.
Cole - HOW IS THIS GONNA BE A PREVIEW, Todd? This is a tag team match, the match on Sunday is one-on-two?!
Cole - Nattie’s just lucky that LayCool gave her a payday!
Cole - The Hart Dynasty imploded on Monday, and after she loses on Sunday, THEY CAN ALL GO BACK TO CALGARY. GOODBYE!
Edge - HOT WINGS! Got a pocket, Paul? Ready to see Kane? ROAD TRIP!
Striker - Tyler Reks came right at him - HELLO WORLD, I’M TYLER REKS!
Josh - Alberto, it’s 2-2. Are you confident that you can defeat Rey?
Alberto - Rey is not a survivor. He doesn’t have the ESSENCE OF EXCELLENCE. Tongiht, and Sunday, is gonna be a witness to my greatness. I’m going to give, to the WWE Universe, an authentic hero.
Edge - Kane, oh Kane… YOOHOO! Don’t see him - maybe you should call him…
Bearer - KANE - KANE, KANE I’M HERE!
Striker - Rey has the respect of the WWE Universe - Alberto thinks he can buy the respect of the Universe.
Striker - The legends of Mexico - like Dos Caras and Mil Mascaras, may look down on how Del Rio views Rey Mysterio.
Sign - I got my Swag on.
Long - WE’RE GONNA HAVE A TEN-MAN SURVIVOR SERIES SHOWDOWN BATTLE ROYAL!
 
[quote name='strongpimphand']Why yes I am. Thanks for noticing![/QUOTE]

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[quote name='Sporadic']I'm still sad that Burchill has disappeared from the American wrestling scene after his release from WWE.[/QUOTE]

I love his Ripper gimmick. WWE never used him to even a fourth of his full potential. I would love to see him work for Ring of Honor. He has sort of Gary/Brent Albright-type of style that I love.

[quote name='diddy310']TNA should get the World's Greatest Tag Team and pick up Burchill to pair with Douglas Williams. It's the one division they don't manage to fuck up on a regular basis.[/QUOTE]


TNA's tag team division is definitely their most competent division.

[quote name='neocisco']I'd be very surprised if any of them end up in TNA with the possible exception of Lance Hoyt/Rock and that's only due to his history.[/QUOTE]


I'd like to see Hoyt return to TNA with his "Vance Archer" look (shaggy hair, hobo-esque beard). It's not the 1990s anymore. Cut your damn hair, pro wrestlers. The only exceptions are John Morrison, Edge, Drew McIntyre, Curt Hawkins, The Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Brian Kendrick, Scott Hall, Robert Roode, Mick Foley, Rhino, Tyler Black, Jushin Lyger, and Kevin Nash. That's it--for every wrestler in the world. Jerry Lynn? Cut your hair. Even Jeff Hardy and CM Punk cut their hair. Ya know who needs to cut their hair the most? Hiroshi Tanahashi. His hair annoys me. I'm not saying it should be cut short. Shinsuke Nakamura and, present-day, Jeff Hardy length is fine. But people like Jerry Lynn, Triple H, and Abyss need to cut their damn hair.

I-I'm sorry. I can't believe I just spent this time discussing hair length in pro wrestling. Fantastic.
 
[quote name='pimpster4183']There's tons of guys WWE has released that TNA hasn't hired. I doubt any of those will show up. The only ones I'd like to see would be Helms and Matt Hardy. WWE takes a lot of TNA releases, but all get stupid gimmicks and get released later on. Archer, Harris from AMW, Austin Creed has a teacher gimmick. I haven't really watched WWE lately, so I'm not sure what Low Ki is doing now.[/QUOTE]

Haas and Benjamin versus Motor City Machine Guns.
...versus Beer Money.
...versus Generation Me.

Don't tell me you wouldn't want to see that.
 
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I like this one better

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But I mean....you can keep on...because I'm bored at work on a Sat morning anyways!
 
[quote name='BlueSwim']Shad Gaspard from Smackdown was released by the WWE.[/QUOTE]And my dreams of a Cryme Tyme reunion have been extinguished. :(

[quote name='pitfallharry219']Luke Gallows has also been released.[/QUOTE]
Damn, I liked him too.
[quote name='mykevermin']Haas and Benjamin versus Motor City Machine Guns.
...versus Beer Money.
...versus Generation Me.

Don't tell me you wouldn't want to see that.[/QUOTE]
I, for one, would love to see that. But TNA is dumb, etc.
 
I haven't seen some really good tag team wrestling in a while. It's not all that common nowadays but it's probably my favorite type of match. I'm talking about something that breaks the formula too.

Speaking of match formulas, aside from a weak finish, there's an AJ/Daniels/Joe three way match I saw once that blew my mind. They didn't stick to the weak formula of 1 on 1 with someone outside the ring.
 
I'm almost done with Chris Jericho's autobiography, and it's one of the best books I've ever read. I just got to the chapter where he meets with Bischoff for the first time, and I really don't want this book to end.
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']I'm almost done with Chris Jericho's autobiography, and it's one of the best books I've ever read. I just got to the chapter where he meets with Bischoff for the first time, and I really don't want this book to end.[/QUOTE]

His next book is coming out in February

[quote name='Chase']I love his Ripper gimmick. WWE never used him to even a fourth of his full potential. I would love to see him work for Ring of Honor. He has sort of Gary/Brent Albright-type of style that I love. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, Ring Of Honor would be perfect for him. I always thought of Burchill like an early HHH with more technical skill/agility.
 
I really don't understand why the WWE would fire Caylen Croft and not Trent Beretta as well. The Dudebusters were a pretty good tag-team with a lot of potential. Without Croft though, we all know Beretta will suffer the same fate before too long after getting sent back to FCW or jobbing as a singles talent on Smackdown...... I mean Superstars for a few months.

As far as the recent released talent going to TNA, the only guy worth hiring from this recent list is Luke Gallows. He'd fit in with the TNA roster very well. Lance Hoyt on the other hand is nothing special, I've never been impressed with him since the days of him being the body guard for Kid Kash, under the Dallas gimmick.
 
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