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Apparently, it's not being replayed this week at that time though, due to the TUF finale - the replay of Impact aired this morning at 9 AM. TNA should really advertise things like this so that viewers can make people aware of these changes - they used to do it when the show first hit Spike, and then they just sorta stopped, despite the rating holding strong on the replay.
 
I think TNA would benefit from the addition of a heel commentator to play against Mike Tenay. Tenay is a solid play by play guy, and a heel color man would work well with him.
 
[quote name='ZForce']I think TNA would benefit from the addition of a heel commentator to play against Mike Tenay. Tenay is a solid play by play guy, and a heel color man would work well with him.[/quote]

I've been saying that to myself for the longest time now. I doubt they could get someone of Bobby Heenan-caliber, but I'm sure they can find someone who can get the job done.

EDIT: Watch Botchamania 45 as ECW fans totally eviscerate John Cena:

[MEDIA]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zx61ncLwXiU[/MEDIA]
 
SD was mostly uneventful tonight, but enjoyable. I dug Foley FINALLY treating Kozlov like a serious threat, and I like how much talks about his interaction with the wrestlers - worked or not in the case of Kozlov, it does add a little something to the wrestlers' characters. Kozlov's match this week was his best yet, as Noble COULD have won the match, but Kozlov still prevailed in a dominant manner, showing that Kozlov can succeed despite adversity in a match.

I also liked the Robinson stuff - it added a sense of importance to the position of referees, and I liked Vickie citing prior examples of his "bias" - it made those matches seem more important as a result. The "match" between Khali and Robinson was no great shakes, but I loved Robinson's selling of Khali's offense, and I'm sure he got a kick out of doing the Flair Flop off the brain chop.

Kane-MVP, the main event, McCool-Layla, and DnD-Jesse/Festus were all fine, but mainly enjoyable to me because of the commentary. Mick mentioning that DnD jumped the shark got a laugh out of me, while his relational with McCool always results in some amusing commentary, while Cole and Mick each going off on the nepotism of Vickie was amusing during the main event.

MVP's face turn tease was executed very well at the start of the show, but I think having him duck out of the match and take a count out was a step back - not only because it's something MVP did circa '06, but it also seemed contradictory given what he said earlier in the show about being the best performer on SD. Not a horrible move, but one that annoyed me a bit.

Finlay-Miz was a good little match, and I especially loved Morrison and Mick on commentary. "We don't believe in leprechauns at the palace of wisdom" was my favorite part of their exchange tonight, but I also enjoyed Morrison defending the Miz, stating that while he may be hated, he is talented and should be at least respected.

The main event angle with La Familia screwing Batista out of the match was executed about as well as could be expected, but it still didn't do anything to make me want to see Edge face Batista at Night of Champions. I hope they go somewhere big with this marriage deal beyond just having 'Taker return at the wedding, because this act is continuing to get stale and water Edge's character down.

Quotes -
Foley - This could be the last time you and I commentate together due to the draft.
Cole - That’d really be a shame.
MVP - I look a bit different tonight because in a few short days, the 2008 WWE draft is gonna take place, and every single superstar, diva, announcer…GM, and even the refs are eligible. It’s gonna be one of those typical WWE nights where anything can happen. As I think about this, I’m cool with going to whatever franchise is gonna properly utilize my talents. I’m not only the highest paid WWE superstar, I’m also the most talented athlete. A change of environment might be good for everybody involved - I don’t think my talents are being properly utilized by the management of this show. Maybe it’s because they don’t know what they’re doing, or they’re distracted by personal issues like…getting married, or because they know if I was given the chance I should be given, I’d outshine everyone on this show, including the members of La Familia…
Vickie - EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME! MVP, WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE COMING INTO MY RING…(fans boo) LIKE I WAS SAYING - WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO COME INTO MY RING ON MY SHOW, AND TRASH MY FAMILY! YOUR VILE CAMPAIGNING! THAT YOU’D RATHER BE DRAFTED TO RAW OR ECW, I DON’T NEED THESE PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW!
MVP - It was not my intention to insult your family, and if you took it that way, I sincerely apologize, it’s just that last week, you asked me to beat CM Punk, and I did.
Vickie - Actually, that’s not what I told you to do… (crowd boos)
MVP - Hold on, I wanna hear what she wants to say.
Vickie - You won a match, but you BARELY did that.
MVP - WHATEVA, YOU TOLD ME TO WIN - I GOT THE WIN!
Cole - YEAH, YOU WON BY DQ!
MVP - My agent was supposed to call you, and when he did, you weren’t available to take them. I’m not trying to leave this franchise, I’m the face of it - but you make me feel like you don’t want me here, and if that’s the case, with all due respect, I don’t wanna be here!
Vickie - Well, MVP, with all due respect. (fans boo) WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DON’T HAVE TIME TO NEGOTIATE YOUR CONTRACT IN PUBLIC LIKE THIS! You may feel unappreciated, but you have a contract here on SD, and you may feel that you’re aren’t challenged, but let’s see how you feel after tonight, because you’re going one on one with the ECW Champion, KANE!
Foley - Oh, what Chavo wouldn’t give to have a softened up Matt Hardy on his hands at Night of Champions.
Cole - Matt has no way of seeing Bam Neely in action.
Foley - Unless he’s watched ECW a couple of times…
Cole - MICK, THOSE WERE TAG MATCHES.
Cole - Bam, a former border patrol agent, calls himself a one-man fence.
Foley - What’s one man fence mean?
Cole - He keeps people away from Chavo.
Foley - If Chavo wins the U.S. title and Edge retains the world title, could they wear the belts at the wedding?
Cole - Of course they could.
Foley - I mean as a cummerbund.
Cole - I want to thank our fans for making Monday night Raw the most watched show on Monday night!
Foley - Bam’s looking at Chavo for approval and possibly acceptance - Edge did say that he’s like a third-cousin he’d like to know better.
Cole - HEY, CHAVO JUST GRABBED MATT HARDY’S LEG! AND BAM NEELY’S TAKING ADVANTAGE!
Foley - You know what Charles Robinson would’ve said if he was an umpire? (Cole no sells) You know what? YOU’RE OUTTA HERE, CHAVO! (Cole no sells again) You’re outta here, too! What? It’s Leslie Nielson - Naked Gun.
Chavo (to Bam) - WHO’S CHARLES ROBINSON THINK HE IS THROWING ME OUT LIKE THAT!?
Edge - Trust me to take care of Charles Robinson tonight. You trust me to take Matt Hardy out next week, don’t you? Tonight, I need you to take Batista, tonight.
Chavo - COME ON, MAN!
Edge - Chavo, trust me.
Foley - Cole, Michelle gets your hormones going.
Cole - My hormones? You’re the one saying she’s pretending to send you letters.
Foley - No pretending involved.
Foley - Just For Men -Touch of Gray - for men who want a little bit of gray - for the generation who said they’d never get old.
Cole - That’s appropriate for you.
Cole - Layla says that being on ECW has made her more aggressive in bed, and at times gentler.
Foley - I know from personal exper… no no no, but she can do some amazing thing with that body of hers. She’s an amazing athlete.
Foley - Natalya’s got the sharpshooter, and Michelle has the heel hook.
Foley - I’m gonna prove you wrong - I’ve got a birthday card that you claim is a figment of your imagination.
Cole - I want that handwriting analyzed - this line doesn’t make sense “you are very special to me”.
Vickie - Charles, at WrestleMania, you showed bias towards the Undertaker, and at Judgment Day, you tried to illegally award the title to the Undertaker. Tonight, you threw Chavo out of the match for no reason. I know you’re a single father and you need this job.
Robinson - I do need this job.
Vickie - You need to realize how your bias is viewed by other superstars, so tonight, you’re going to be in this ring tonight as a competitor. I’m putting you in a match, so go get ready. Thank you.
Foley - Vladimir understands more English than I thought - and he took issue with how I was…middling him during his matches.
Cole - Well, you were.
Foley - Kozlov gave me a book on Sambo.
Cole - Did ya read it?
Foley - Not really. Sambo means self-defense without weapons.
Cole - You read the book...
Foley - No I didn’t… There’s the front kick.
Cole - YOU DID READ THE BOOK, JUST ADMIT IT!
Foley - Okay, I read it - Kozlov’s on the bottom of the list of guys I want mad at me.
Foley - Sambo uses a lot of Greco Roman and Freestyle holds and throws - yes, I read the book!
Foley - You smell that fire and smoke? I LIKE IT!
Cole - Remember, Kane set MVP on fire in an inferno match!
Foley - I think Vickie’s mostly concerned with her marriage to the Edge - would she drop the Guerrero name to become Vickie Edge?
Cole - WHAT!?
Foley - What? She could be Vickie Edge.
Cole - Yes, folks, that’s your color analyst, Mick Foley.
Foley - Could you imagine how much I could learn under J.R. tutelage? The big cowboy hat would be like learning under a wisdom tree.
Cole - Last week, Punk warned that he could cash in MITB at Edge’s wedding.
Foley - Better there than on the wedding night? Can you imagine how annoying that would be? Get a knock at the door…
Cole - Well, as long as he’s got a referee…
Foley - You think Kane would take advantage of the injured eye of the Big Show? He’s a man of compassion.
Cole - WHAT? All he likes to do is inflict pain!
Foley - Yeah, but he told me he feels bad afterwards.
Foley - KANE TAKING FLIGHT TWICE IN ONE NIGHT!
Foley - COME ON CHARLES, YOU CAN DO IT BUDDY! (Khali comes out)
Cole - Oh no, oh my lord!
Foley - I know Charles needs this job, but does he really need it that badly? Run Charles, RUN! (he runs, Hawkins and Ryder jump him) Doing Long Island proud, thanks guys!
Foley - I’ve been privileged to watch some great things on SD - this isn’t one of them.
Foley - Vickie no longer makes matches - she assigns punishments.
Cole - Charles Robinson is being taken to a local medical facility - WWE.com will have updates on this disturbing story.
Foley - I think we need to move on and have some fun.
Cole - Last week, you said that Jesse was an enabler - you’re sick!
Foley - Sick? Festus is a man with a mental illness that might be treatable! It’s not gonna be fixed with a pat on the chest and the ringing of a bell.
(on DnD)Cole - A draft could be the best thing to happen to them.
Foley - Us too.
Foley - If we get separated in the draft, and I mean this, I want to thank you - this has been one of the best experiences of my life.
Cole - THIS IS LIKE FONZIE AND POTSY FIGHTING ON HAPPY DAYS!
Foley - Is this a match? The bell did sound and Festus went berserk …
Foley - Our table’s shaking…it’s kinda hard to see the action.
Cole - Why? They’re right in front of us.
Foley - Yes, but I’m cowering in fear from Festus.
Cole - We’re seeing the split-up of a team that was once on top of the world - tag champs here on SmackDown.
Cole - Deuce…cracking…Domino…in…the…mouth…
Foley - The tag team of Deuce and Domino has just jumped the shark.
Cole - What do you think Finlay and Hornswoggle did for father’s day.
Foley - Hornswoggle drank a pint too much and was found by Finlay taking a Miz passed out.
Foley - Here’s that list of guys I want angry at me - Miz is at the top, and Batista and Kozlov are at the bottom. Welcome to the booth, Mr. Morrison - it may not be the palace of wisdom, but I hope the accommodations suffice.
Foley - Obviously, you’ve got some great ab exercises to be able to grate cheese with your abs, but do you have any great back exercises to be able to carry the Miz like that?
Cole - MY FAVORITE SHOW ON WWE.COM IS THE DIRT SHEET!
Morrison - It’s the greatest show in the history of sports entertainment, and the Miz is a wrestler’s wrestler.
Foley - He’s a jerk.
Morrison - You can call him a jerk, but you can’t call him untalented. HEY, THAT LITTLE TROLL!
Foley - He’s a leprechaun.
Morrison - At the palace of wisdom, we don’t believe in leprechauns.
Foley - CELTIC CROSS! I don’t usually do this, but I’m gonna dance here at the table.
Cole - Please stop, you’re embarrassing yourself.
Foley - IF YOU’RE HAPPY AND YA KNOW IT, STOMP YOUR FEET!
Vickie - Excuse me Batista, Charles Robinson was supposed to be your referee, but obviously he in no condition to be here. So I’ve assigned a special guest referee…(fans boo) EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME! I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY! Batista, I have assigned a special guest referee, now, if you so much as lay a hand on this official, you will lose your opportunity at the world heavyweight championship at Night of…Champions. Please allow me to introduce to you the special guest referee - EDGE!
Cole - WELL EXCUSE ME, BUT THIS IS A TRAVESTY!
Foley - The vindictive nature of Vickie knows no bounds!
Foley - SmackDown is supposed to be who’s the best, not who’s the best connected, or who’s in whose family.
Foley - I was a special referee twice, including once for a big Austin-Rock match at WrestleMania, and it was a great honor. Edge is treating it like a joke.
Cole - I don’t even know how to call this - it’s ridiculous.
Foley - And you’ve been calling the action for a long time here, haven’t you, Cole? Have you ever seen anything resembling this?
Cole - No, Mick.
Cole - NEPOTISM REIGNING SUPREME HERE ON SMACKDOWN!
Foley - This is a slap in the face to Batista’s legacy.
Cole - AND THE TITLE!
Cole - BATISTA’S TRYING TO POWER UP!
Cole - THIS IS ABSOLUTE INSANITY! THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL!

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BAUTISTA BOMB!!




Awesome-looking shot of MVP lit by Kane's pyro.



Edit - Here's the legendary Tupelo concession stand brawl between Onita and Fuchi against Gilbert and Morton.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/iny84i

Also, Jackie Gayda's shoot interview.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/q61922

Heidenreich shoot interview.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/bis0t5

John Tenta Wrestlecrap radio interview.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/lybnbm
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']I've been saying that to myself for the longest time now. I doubt they could get someone of Bobby Heenan-caliber, but I'm sure they can find someone who can get the job done.[/quote]

I vote heel Tony Schiavone.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avGn1qkaUWA[/media]
 
I had forgotten about the "fuck Nick Patrick" chants at the first One Night Stand, which makes them all the more funnier years later. :lol:
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']ECW fans totally eviscerate John Cena[/QUOTE]

One of my favorite moments about that was when John Cena threw his shirt into the crowd and the crowd threw it back than he tried again and again but got the same response each time :cool:

[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWFKmLKRsg[/MEDIA]
 
[quote name='metaphysicalstyles']Two words... "flip dive"

I hate that call.

Could we please refer to it as a flipping senton?

Flip dive just sounds so generic.[/quote]

Well, considering how WWE refuses to call their product pro-wrestling I think calling moves by their proper names is "beneath" them. I would prefer it if they had respect for pro-wrestling, but then I realized WWE isn't pro-wrestling.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Hold on, what? I thought Human Tornado was suppose to be out for 6 months due to a leg injury?[/quote]
The story behind this in PWG is that Tornado's been shittalking Hero into accepting the Guerrilla Warfare (PWG's version of no-DQ, falls count anywhere) match. Tornado's had different people attacking Hero over the past few shows (Jay Briscoe and Claudio Castagnoli), and even showed up at one of the shows without the brace. They're teasing the injury as a work, but we'll see how that goes.

The history between Human Tornado and Chris Hero has been extremely well documented, but going in to "Life During Wartime" on July 6, some very important questions remain: Human Tornado allegedly suffered a knee injury that will require surgery and keep him out of action for a year. Yet at "It's It (What Is It?)" Tornado appeared sans-crutches, claiming he was prepared to fight and defend his title, even though his leg was in an immobilizer knee brace. What is the status of Tornado's knee? Is this all a ruse, or is he just too stubborn to part with the title after all he went through to recapture it? If his knee truly is injured, how mobile will Tornado be? Will the Steel Cage be an advantage or detriment to the Champion? After All Star Weekend 6, Chris Hero was wrestling with a knee injury, an injury Tornado chose to exploit. Will Chris Hero sink to Tornado's level and attack the champion's (allegedly) injured knee? What role will Tornado's allies Claudio Castagnoli and Jay Briscoe play in this match, if any? For that matter, what about Candice LeRae and Necro Butcher, Chris Hero's friends?
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Some AWA screens, including screens of jobber Shawn Baxter's simply amazing hair, the hair restoration ad with Chavo and Jimmy Hart, a screen of the fabulous "Stud Sable" graphic, and DDP's pink zebra-print outfit.















DDP's attire is so garish it scares small children





Some matches -
William Regal vs. Bryan Danielson
http://www.sendspace.com/file/40zzfo

Eddy Guerrero vs. Terry Funk from 1989 (an amazing match for the time, and one that was so good that Terry told higher-ups to hire Eddie immediately, but they refused to do so at the time) -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cg028n

Bunch 'o stuff -

Ricky Steamboat WCW theme -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/d0u4bo

Ricky "the Dragon" Steamboat theme from his '91 WWF run -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nd1r2n

Ricky Steamboat - "Family Man" -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/392z6s

Bret Hart - "Never Been a Right Time to Say Goodbye" -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/u9kvo9

Christian - "Just Close Your Eyes" (TV version) -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tjfc3o

Honky Tonk Man - "Honky Tonk Baby" (first WCW theme) -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nsk7m0

Cactus Jack - "Mr. Bang Bang" -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/wcpjqg


The American Males, American Males, American Males, American Males! theme -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rjrl1b

3 Minute Warning theme -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/znyd1o

Bag of Hammers - "Hulk Hogan on Crack!" -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gwqi33

LWO 1st theme -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jkgt2u

LWO 3rd theme -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/952n2d

Brian Pillman - "California Sun" WCW '95 theme -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mwp7g7

Brian Pillman's ECW theme - "Shitlist" by L7 -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/v07b2i

Shawn Michaels shoot interview -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ig4s0q

Marty Jannetty 2004 shoot interview -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/u6exq9

Team 3D shoot interview -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/eogmdd

Matt Hardy RF Video shoot -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pcgu78

Ultimate Warrior shoot interview -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tlfjd4
 
Johnny Jeter was released by WWE. It makes me wish there were a competitor to WWE. He could have been made into a good upper mid-card talent if he developed properly.

I respect Lance Cade as he has worked his way up to his present WWE push, but I just don't like his present style/WWE moveset.

Speaking of Cade...

FMW, November 12, 1999: Bryan Danielson and Lance Cade vs. Mammoth Sasaki and Naohiro Yamazaki

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=MkYWgvC5isg[/media]And just to keep the Texas Wrestling Academy theme going...

NJPW, May 3, 2004: Bryan Danielson, Ultimo Dragon, and Koji Kanemoto vs. Heat, Naomichi Marufuji, and Tiger Mask IV

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=agSszqYLKeU[/media]

It features two of my all-time favorite junior heavyweights: the great Koji Kanemoto, and the too often overlooked, Minoru Tanaka.

Both are the first part of a video series. Click on the video to find the remainder.
 
According to the Observer, Jeter was released months ago - it's just that no one noticed. Here's the full text on it -
WWE has parted ways with former WWE World Tag Team Championship and Spirit Squad member Johnny Jeter. His departure from the company completely fell under the radar, so much so that this news is actually quite a few months old, but wasn't revealed until now.

Jeter held the World Tag Team Championship in 2006 due to his partnership with the Spirit Squad as any two members of the five member group could defend the belts at anytime. The group finally lost the belts to the makeshift team of Ric Flair and "Rowdy" Roddy Piper at Cyber Sunday 2006. The group was "killed off" on the November 27 Raw after they were defeated in a 5-on-3 match by DX and Ric Flair. After a triple submission, they were dumped into a large crate stamped "OVW. Louisville, Kentucky," a reference to WWE's developmental league at the time. After the break-up, Jeter made an appearance at the 30-man battle royal on the December 18, 2006 episode of Raw sporting some new wrestling attire. That was his last appearance on WWE television.

Jeter returned to Ohio Valley Wrestling in February 2007, where he stayed at least until the fall before his mysterious disappearance from the promotion. Jeter worked a number of dark matches prior to television tapings in August & September, and come October, was brought on SmackDown/ECW's tour of Europe. He debuted under the ring name Jayden Jeter, working matches with competitors of ECW -- all losses.

There were some rumors going around saying that WWE had plans to call up Jeter along with some other developmental wrestlers for a faction group in ECW, but it never materialized. ECW formed a "talent exchange" with SmackDown on October 16 and that pretty squeezed out a possible call-up to the main roster for Jeter.

Soon after, Jeter stopped appearing in OVW altogether for some reasons unknown, several months before WWE pulled their affiliation from the group. After WWE sent all of the contracted OVW talent to Florida Championship Wrestling, Jeter was the lone wrestler not to make the move. Furthermore, not including The Boogeyman for character reasons (and because he was injured anyway), Jeter was reportedly the only WWE talent to not attend the company's festivities in Orlando WrestleMania weekend. In hindsight, Jeter may have been let go by then, which would explain his absence.

After Mike Mondo's release from the company last week following a DUI arrest in Tampa, Kenny Dykstra and Nic Nemeth are the last two remaining former members of the Spirit Squad still under contract to WWE. Mitch (Nick Mitchell) was released over a year ago due to back problems and couldn't do much besides cheer as a result. On the bright side, at least he's involved in a relationship with former WWE Diva Torrie Wilson in Houston. Regarding Kenny Dykstra, considered by most as the group's best prospect, his wrestling career is in a rut to say the least. He suffered a knee injury in January, but was healthy enough to wrestle again in late March. However, the company still has yet to bring back to the roster, and he hasn't been appearing at FCW shows either. Before his injury, he was pretty much being jobbed out on SmackDown on a regular basis anyway. His future with the company remains in question. He also broke up with the one and only Mickie James sometime ago. At the moment, Nic Nemeth appears to have the best potential future out fo all the former members of the group as he had been working a number of dark matches and house shows in recent months under a cocky heel gimmick. It looked like he was on the verge of a call-up to the main roster last month, but WWE still has yet to pull the trigger on him for one reason or another. Also, he hasn't appeared before a WWE crowd in over a month, so that may not be a good sign.

Back to Jeter, he started his wrestling career in OVW in 2001, so he was affiliated with the organization for roughly six years. Jeter was under contract to WWE for five years or so, since at least 2003. It remains to be seen if Jeter continues his wrestling career as he has yet to work any indy events.
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Booker T Live Audio Wrestling interview from '06 during the King Booker era -
http://www.sendspace.com/file/355ljg
 
I watched that video on Gametrailers a couple days & I can see why they stick wrestling & not commentating.

As for the Spirit Squad story, sounds like all the members of the group were blackballed from WWE after it got canned.
 
Cool, download day. Thanks, Jay.

I finally got around to watching Impact from 6/12. That was the best TNA show I've seen in a very long time. Joe vs. Kaz was a great start. Everybody knew Joe was going to win but he sold Kaz's offense and his frustration with his difficulty beating him. MCMG vs. Team Japan was a lot of fun to watch. Roode/Storm looked vicious with their beatdown of LAX and really set the stage for a potentially hot feud. The Styles/Angle lumberjack match was fast-paced and the crowd was definitely into it. It had the cluster finish that TNA seems to be currently addicted to but it was cleared out for the Kurt/Karen/AJ moment with Kong coming in. Just a great show. I hope this past week's show is of comparable quality.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Pretty decent idea WWE had.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/wwedraft2008/fantasydraft/

Here's what I came up with[/quote]



you and i had a few things in common... my draft predictions:

RAW:
Mark Henry
Rey Mysterio
The Miz
MVP
CM Punk

SmackDown:
Jericho
Carlito
Shelton
Umaga
Santino

ECW:
Matt Hardy
Chuck Palumbo
Paul Burchill
Charlie Haas

obviously not expecting all these people to move, but these are the people i can see moving to these shows.

also i notice this is askew because i moved no women, but really all i can see is pheonix and niedhart switching spots.
 
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltzHvox9e5o[/MEDIA]

It pisses me off to see Hennig jobbed out on Heat. Heat! I can't believe he ended his career as "enhancement talent." He should have had a Finlay push and closed out his career as World champion. :bomb:

#1

"I remember when I was working with Carlito [Puerto Rican wrestler Carlos Colon] when he just started. Vince wanted to talk to him to get to know him, and I was asked to attend the meeting to help work out a character. So we're there, Carlito's talking to him, just a normal conversation; Carlito comes from a normal background, has money. He speaks well. Vince interrupts Carlito mid-sentence and says to him, 'Hey, can you spic it up some? Y'know spic it up when you talk?' I look at Vince, this billionaire who just asked some Puerto Rican employee to 'spic it up' right to his face, and I just look at Carlito and say, 'Yeah, spic it up' like it was a joke," says Madigan, laughing. "Vince's image of a Puerto Rican was a Puerto Rican pimp. How out of touch do you have to be to not realize you could get in trouble for that?"
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Rah-roh! :hot:

#2

Stephanie McMahon is pushing for the creative team to brainstorm some long-term storylines, instead of doing things on pretty much a month-by-month and oftentimes, a week-by-week basis. However, nobody wants to come up with long-term ideas because Vince changes things every week.
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What the article fails to mention is how Stephanie only wants these ideas to involve Triple H, Randy Orton, and John Cena. ;)
 
At that stage in Hennig's career, him being on Heat was a pretty good gig - he got regular work in the biggest wrestling company in the world, but wasn't capable of having really good matches, nor could he cut good promos - he was used to enhance other talents, which given his bump-heavy style, worked at making his opponents look good and also helped keep him over as well.

He still had some highlights during his short '02 run, including being in the final 4 in the Rumble, Perfectplexing Big Show, and facing RVD in an IC title match, which I viewed as a cool thing for RVD, as he was facing one of the top 3 IC champs in history - not too bad for a few month run for a guy who was far past his prime.

Hennig closing his career as a world champion in WWE is a complete pipe dream - he wasn't given that strap in his WWF prime, and even Hogan only got a one month run with the belt in '02, and he was a far bigger legend than Hennig ever was. Hennig's AWA World title reign was a fantastic reign for him, and a short world title reign in any company after it would likely have paled in comparison to it.

Hennig also worked as enhancement talent in TNA after his final WWE run, and had one world title match there against Jeff Jarrett. A quick reign for him there might've worked, but realistically, having Jarrett state that he'd beaten a legend like Hennig to defend his crown worked better than Hennig getting a short, worthless world title reign.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']At that stage in Hennig's career, him being on Heat was a pretty good gig - he got regular work in the biggest wrestling company in the world, but wasn't capable of having really good matches, nor could he cut good promos - he was used to enhance other talents, which given his bump-heavy style, worked at making his opponents look good and also helped keep him over as well.

He still had some highlights during his short '02 run, including being in the final 4 in the Rumble, Perfectplexing Big Show, and facing RVD in an IC title match, which I viewed as a cool thing for RVD, as he was facing one of the top 3 IC champs in history - not too bad for a few month run for a guy who was far past his prime.

Hennig closing his career as a world champion in WWE is a complete pipe dream - he wasn't given that strap in his WWF prime, and even Hogan only got a one month run with the belt in '02, and he was a far bigger legend than Hennig ever was. Hennig's AWA World title reign was a fantastic reign for him, and a short world title reign in any company after it would likely have paled in comparison to it.

Hennig also worked as enhancement talent in TNA after his final WWE run, and had one world title match there against Jeff Jarrett. A quick reign for him there might've worked, but realistically, having Jarrett state that he'd beaten a legend like Hennig to defend his crown worked better than Hennig getting a short, worthless world title reign.[/quote]

Good points, Jay. I blame my bitterness on the fact that I loathe my birthday. :oops:

[quote name='Mr. Beef']The only draft predictions I have are Cryme Time to SD, and MVP to Raw.[/quote]

Draft predictions, aye? I would be lying if I didn't say I feel Cryme Time will somehow end up on ECW. It could revitalize WWE if they switched a few names around.

Perhaps Jericho brings the Intercontinental championship to Smackdown, and takes with him Umaga and Ken Kennedy. Matt Hardy strolls the United States championship in a wheelie suitcase with Dalip Singh and Rey Jr.

Mark Henry goes to ECW, with Shannon Moore, Jimmy Yang, and James Gibson stuck to his ass. From RAW, Kendrick goes back to Spanky, and he, Paul London, and Paul Burchill fly over to ECW. Shane Helms later returns to WWE by debuting on ECW. James Gibson goes back to being James Gibson draped in the confederate flag. Jimmy Yang uses his real name, James Yun, because it is less twangy, and becomes a top contender in the new WWE ECW TV title.

Kane, Chavo Jr., and Big Daddy V exile to Smackdown. Where they belong. Shelton and Kofi join Raw to build up their mid-card.

Ya hear that, WWE? It's possible to make your shows less stale, ya bastards. :hot:
 
Tonight's draft will basically decide whether or not I'll be paying any attention to WWE programming for the next six months or so. I'd love to see either Cena/HHH to Smackdown, so there can only be one superman on the show. I'd like to see CM Punk go to either RAW or Smackdown and be a heel as he's become incredibly boring. I'd almost guarantee Big Show going back to ECW.

I think more than any particular person going to a particular show, I'd just like to see different matchups and the main event not involve HHH/Cena/Batista/Orton every single week.
 
[quote name='xcoax']Tonight's draft will basically decide whether or not I'll be paying any attention to WWE programming for the next six months or so. I'd love to see either Cena/HHH to Smackdown, so there can only be one superman on the show. I'd like to see CM Punk go to either RAW or Smackdown and be a heel as he's become incredibly boring. I'd almost guarantee Big Show going back to ECW.

I think more than any particular person going to a particular show, I'd just like to see different matchups and the main event not involve HHH/Cena/Batista/Orton every single week.[/quote]

I too would like to see Punk turn heel, possibly reform the Second City Saints with an incoming Colt Cabana, and use his straight edge gimmick with a holier-than-thou attitude - but WWE, for some reason, is attempting to appeal to kids (their rating is now PG, I believe). I mean, since when did WWE not appeal to kids? It's weird, to be honest. So, I expect to see CM Punk milked as an awkward face for a good while.

I also agree that Triple H, John Cena, and Randy Orton need to be split-up and shipped off, as, the previously posted link pointed out, every Raw title pay-per-view match since September 2002 - except for two - has featured Nosey, Cena, and Orton.

Imagine all the people sharing all the world. :whistle2:$
 
[quote name='xcoax']Tonight's draft will basically decide whether or not I'll be paying any attention to WWE programming for the next six months or so. .[/QUOTE]

So true. But I disagree about the one superman per show arguement, I say put em all on Raw, that way SD! & ECW get sparred. Kill one show to save the others.

So for the Draft, I would like to see:

RAW:
Undertaker
Batista
Chavo
Bam Neely
Finlay
Hornswaggle
Khali

SD!:
Y2J
Carlito
CM Punk
Elijah Burke
Crime Tyme
Umaga

ECW:
Jeff Hardy
Mark Henry

Yeah, Raw would suck a bag of dicks week in & week out, but SD! has the potential to be awesome, while ECW would be watchable.
 
I would like to see a good, long feud between the Hardys for the ECW title. I think one of them would need to turn heel and get a good mouthpiece for any verbal interaction between them to be worth watching.
 
[quote name='chasemurata']
What the article fails to mention is how Stephanie only wants these ideas to involve Triple H, Randy Orton, and John Cena. ;)[/quote]

I have no problem with Orton or Cena. Even though Orton is a dick and internet fans hate Cena, at least they are still compelling to watch IMO. Unless HHH goes to Smackdown, (which we know will never happen) Trips needs to quietly fade away. The only thing interesting about him is the fact he is as ripped as he is in the "Wellness era".
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I have no problem with Orton or Cena. Even though Orton is a dick and internet fans hate Cena, at least they are still compelling to watch IMO. Unless HHH goes to Smackdown, (which we know will never happen) Trips needs to quietly fade away. The only thing interesting about him is the fact he is as ripped as he is in the "Wellness era".[/quote]

The thing is, if Vince didn't seem to force WWE talent to bulk-up, I think a bunch of them would be lean and ripped. Vince's logic backfired, and now everyone's chubby.

As a person, John Cena seems like a genuine, nice guy. As a pro-wrestler, I am not a fan of his WWE moveset. Randy Orton... ugh, well... I think we can all agree that he's done things that deserve rebuke.

[quote name='pitfallharry219']I would like to see a good, long feud between the Hardys for the ECW title. I think one of them would need to turn heel and get a good mouthpiece for any verbal interaction between them to be worth watching.[/quote]

Both of them need a manager. After listening to Matt or Jeff Hardy speak, I always feel a bit dumber, and inclined to not bathe, for some reason. :whistle2:#
 
Oh yeah, the draft...Cena to SD, Batista to Raw, JBL to ECW, Kennedy to...somewhere he'll be used well, Punk to SD, Umaga to SD, and Adamle to Hell.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Adamle to Hell.[/quote]

:lol:


At least throwing Lance Cade into some stuff is a nice change of pace. Kind of what I mentioned should be done a while back.
 
HHH against Mark Henry. I wonder who'll get the first draft pick. :roll:

I completely forgot to register until like five minutes ago, but if they call the winners before the show, like they've been doing, then I'm out of luck. And if that's the case, why do they bother letting people register until 10:45?

Also, where the hell is Big Daddy V? It doesn't take THAT long to lose 50 pounds.
 
[quote name='chasemurata']
Rey Jr. to Raw.

I called it. Give me a job, WWE. ;)[/QUOTE]

Better yet, how long until he's jobbing out to Cena?
 
Shit I missed the first 15 minutes of RAW. completely forgot about the 3-hour special.

EDIT: Rey on RAW is a fresh change of pace. He's been on SD his entire WWE career.
 
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