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[quote name='benjamouth']Come on Myke, you're telling me in all honesty that you won't be marking out for Jamie Noble's Raw debut.

I have a hard time believing that sir. :nottalking:[/quote]


I'll mark out for his entrance music if nothing else.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Does anyone really give a fuck about these guys?[/quote]

Noble had a really good feud with Palumbo earlier this year that had Noble getting 4 wins over Palumbo, causing him to snap and turn on Michelle McCool, with Noble and Palumbo flipping the face/heel roles. It was actually a well done angle that, for reasons probably known only to Michael Hayes and Stephanie, was just dropped cold.

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Pretty sure that's him.[/quote]

That's Simon Diamond after a 3 day bender.

"Simon has a drinking problem."
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']I just finished watching Raw last night, so I was staying out of the thread until then so I wouldn't get spoiled. Has anyone mentioned the connection between Vince's accident and the accident in TNA?[/quote]


Actually, I was listening to Fox Sports Radio and Steve Czaban's show was on and they made mention of Vince and the TNA death. I had totally forgotten they had that death recently.
 
[quote name='slidecage']A FEW THINGS really sort of #$#$#$# me off

but first

wonder what are the odds of

Batista winning the title.... HHH keeping the title and they just swap titles to the shows.


Okay now to the things that #$#$# me off.


HEY Vince wake up. you stopped giving money away to expect your ratings to go Bye bye... sad you have to pay people to watch your show and now your next story line is going to make me puke.

vince will end up in a wheelchair and they will have some type of bull crap wheelchair games at summerslam ...People have to live every day in wheelchairs and they dont need to see this type of joke bullcrap on tv


now about the so CALLED NIGHT OF CHAMPIONS

why the hell is is called that. this is a normal PPV you always see the title matches in PPVS

I might of got it if these were the matches (i know one match is made)

world title vs ic (tv champ) so its really champ vs champ)

HHH VS JERICHO
EDGE VS MATT
since ECW doesnt have a 2nd title ? Kane vs show Vs great kali?


They really need to make a PPV where the people Really pick. Do it for like 2 weeks one match per day... each day you vote for a new match

list all of the people and allow the people to pick what two people will fight after 24 hours the match is set

So if most people pick HHH vs HBK that vote would be like Monday 8am to tuesday 8am then when tuesday rolled around those two names would be removed and the voting would start again...

the 2nd week what type of match would be picked

so after 2 weeks you would have 7 matches picked by the viewers and what type of matches

ONE LAst thING

they really need to drop ECW and smackdown and move Raw to a set 3 hours

In each show name me more then 3 or 4 people who can even compete for the world title

this is why we always see the same 2 to 3 people in the main event BLAH
Before draft

RAW

HHH
Cena
randy



SMACKDOWN
edge
Batista
?????
??????

wow 2 big names big woop


ECW
Ummmmmm never watch so dont really know but doubt there are more then 2 or 3 major players in this so called leauge


they really need to move back down to 1 night so then maybe we will have some major talent . or allow people to cross brands for title shots.... A PPV every 3 weeks would mean at least title shot once ever 3weeks and you would see more different matches instead of

HHH VS RANDY for the 1000th time[/QUOTE]

one last thing forgot. Also tired of this gimmic that Edge is hurt in battle royals. and then knocks out the last 2 people from behind to win the thing. hey edge do something new
 
[quote name='neocisco']That's like choosing between a chop in the throat and a kick in the nuts.[/QUOTE]

I'll take Adamle over slidecage any day. At least Adamle gave us ONE good line...

"Jamaica Me Crazy!"
 
just saying the last few Battle royals i seen edge in hes always acts hurt at the end of the match. then runs up and pushes the other people from behind and wins .... Its just plain stupid anymore
 
[quote name='slidecage']one last thing forgot. Also tired of this gimmic that Edge is hurt in battle royals. and then knocks out the last 2 people from behind to win the thing. hey edge do something new[/quote]


Yeah, there is nothing worse than a played out, tired gimmick. You know, the kind that someone uses over and over and over. Sometimes they even use it on message boards. Yeah, those kind of gimmicks really suck don't they?
 
-- WWE's thinking about letting Umaga cut his own promos on television. There have been discussions regarding the possibility. People are buzzing backstage that Umaga will reveal his ability to speak English soon.
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That will be Umaga the character's death knell if they go through with it.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Well.... DH Smith looks to NOT being DiBiase Jr's mystery partner as DH just got drafted to....... Smackdown.[/quote]

If that's the case, then I suspect Jericho will soon be leading a team of Lance Cade and Ted DiBiase Jr.

Dear WWE, you're doing it wrong. That is, unless they actually form a new Hart Foundation at Smackdown with Harry Smith, Nattie Neidhart, and an incoming TJ Wilson (also known as the guy who plows Nattie).

[quote name='Demolition Man']Brian Kendrick to Smackdown.[/quote]

He, and Paul London, should have gone to ECW.

[quote name='Demolition Man']Oh, and Carlito to Smackdown.[/quote]

Here's hoping they now give Santino a monster push. It can happen, right? Right?!

*cries*

Santino's going to be buried, I fear. :whistle2:(

[quote name='tangytangerine']:rofl:

Yep, it happened. Finlay is going to ECW.[/quote]

Well, that works. I feel that it's a big demotion for Finlay, considering he was in World title matches on Smackdown, but it works out nicely for ECW.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']That will be Umaga the character's death knell if they go through with it.[/QUOTE]

It could be if they botch it, but it could also finally allow him to break through as a top-tier player if they do it correctly. Finlay hasn't been in a world title program on SD in nearly two years - a move to ECW allows him to easily be in the ECW "World" title mix, and he's better off as a big fish in a small pond than being lost in the shuffle on SD (which now has an unbelievably stacked roster).
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']It could be if they botch it, but it could also finally allow him to break through as a top-tier player if they do it correctly. Finlay hasn't been in a world title program on SD in nearly two years - a move to ECW allows him to easily be in the ECW "World" title mix, and he's better off as a big fish in a small pond than being lost in the shuffle on SD (which now has an unbelievably stacked roster).[/quote]

Two years, aye? Well, that tells you how much I care about Smackdown. Hahaha...

Also, with Umaga, it is not like he will be eloquent in speech. Heck, Khali verbally-harassing the phone is more than Eddie Fatu's ever said since debuting as Umaga.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']You've never seen him, have you?[/QUOTE]

Late reply, don't check here much... but no, I have seen him.

I've seen him live three or more times already, and have seen alot of his matches.

Dear God, is he ever horrible... how anyone could like him, is beyond me.

Also, to the topic starter, I was actually a fan of the Spirit Squad, haha, not Mitch or Johnny though, no one is a fan of them.
 
[quote name='LegendK7ll3r']Late reply, don't check here much... but no, I have seen him.

I've seen him live three or more times already, and have seen alot of his matches.

Dear God, is he ever horrible... how anyone could like him, is beyond me.

Also, to the topic starter, I was actually a fan of the Spirit Squad, haha, not Mitch or Johnny though, no one is a fan of them.[/quote]

i started the SS thread. i was actually a fan of them as well thought kenny had some awesome moves and they were fuckin agile as hell. i was actually at the cyber sunday where they lost the tag titles to piper and flair have a reallllllllllllllly funny reaction shot of kenny right after the match, in retrospect it wouldve been a great one for the topic... damn.
 
[quote name='cdubb1605']i started the SS thread. i was actually a fan of them as well thought kenny had some awesome moves and they were fuckin agile as hell. i was actually at the cyber sunday where they lost the tag titles to piper and flair have a reallllllllllllllly funny reaction shot of kenny right after the match, in retrospect it wouldve been a great one for the topic... damn.[/QUOTE]

I say a solely Kenny Dykstra and his falling career thread is in-order for the next topic!
 
[quote name='LegendK7ll3r']I say a solely Kenny Dykstra and his falling career thread is in-order for the next topic![/QUOTE]

Except I already called the next topic which will feature an far more interesting topic that the Spirit Squad.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Except I already called the next topic which will feature an far more interesting topic that the Spirit Squad.[/quote]


oh, come on, it was done as a joke and you know it, lighten up demoman, orton will return soon and all will be well. ;)
 
[quote name='Iron Clad Burrito']I won a free showing of Night of Champions today... guess I'll be watching.[/QUOTE]

We all did. It's called a live feed link.
 
[quote name='cdubb1605']oh, come on, it was done as a joke and you know it, lighten up demoman, orton will return soon and all will be well. ;)[/QUOTE]

I know Orton will be back..... but my topic has nothing to do with Orton.
 
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Reportedly, there was an argument between Jim Ross and Vince McMahon after Raw as Ross turned down an invitation to fly on the WWE corporate jet from San Antonio to Houston for SmackDown. As noted earlier in his blog, Ross contemplated quitting WWE with his wife until 6:00 a.m Tuesday morning. Anyway, McMahon told Ross that he (Vince) risked his life on Raw and ruined his son-in-law's life for the sake of the company. Word got out on what Vince said regarding Triple H and it gave some people a chuckle considering that his move to SmackDown is greatly beneficial to his personal life.
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Yes, poor Triple H and Vince McMahon. Of course they should be more upset than Jim Ross. Right. Good gravy.

Raw head writer Brian Gewirtz had an idea for Ted DiBiase, Jr. to play off his dad's legendary "Million Dollar Man" gimmick and "buy" a draft pick somehow, but the plan was shot down.
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Gewirtz, with a good idea? I wonder who shot it down. My money's on Kevin Dunn.
 
[quote name='chasemurata']Gewirtz, with a good idea? I wonder who shot it down. My money's on Kevin Dunn.[/QUOTE]

Damn, that would have been almost the perfect time to bring in Ron Killings.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Damn, that would have been almost the perfect time to bring in Ron Killings.[/quote]

As Ted DiBiase Jr.'s Virgil? You racist Jew Spaniard!







... ;) Hehehe... Just messin' with you, Sporadic. And I agree, it would have been a great way to debut new talent. :D
 
[quote name='chasemurata']As Ted DiBiase Jr.'s Virgil? You racist Jew Spaniard!







... ;) Hehehe... Just messin' with you, Sporadic. And I agree, it would have been a great way to debut new talent. :D[/QUOTE]

:lol: I didn't even think about Virgil to tell you "the truth". I have to say though the thought of Ron Killings with a shaved head, striped tights and sequins tuxedo vest is fucking hilarious.

I just thought "hey Ron Killings is suppose to come up soon and what better role for him to play than the pissed off/cocky enforcer". They could have even run the angle of Ted Jr buying a 3 time NWA champion and 2 time Hardcore champion. :cool:
 
I wonder how the rest of the Smackdown talent feels about Triple H's "life being ruined" by being sent to their show?

To be honest, despite how Vince poorly handled the draft, I think JR handled to situation really poorly as well. However, the line Vince gave him about helping the brand on MNTV is crap too. I have never ever heard anyone say they are tuning in to see an anouncer. Cole is more than capable and when he and Tazz we together, epescially during the years when Smackdown was a superior show to Raw, they were great. They should have left well enough alone then.

It situations like this that make me glad TNA is at least an alternative even if they are nowhere near WCW's level as a competitor.
 
I sometimes wonder if the marks are us, or if the marks are backstage. The draft seems to have caused more trouble within the WWE than it has caused any major stirs outside of it.

At least, that's my perspective. I don't think that WWE's production format and in-ring wrestling limitations style will lead to any of the three programs being remarkably different than they are now, and have been for some time. I saw the draft and my whole reaction was this: "Huh. How about that?"
 
With DH Smith going to Smackdown, they're supposedly planning on Cody Rhodes turning on Holly and joining DiBiase. Keep in mind that there was a pretty big feud between their fathers which will probably be completely overlooked by the writers.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']I know Orton will be back..... but my topic has nothing to do with Orton.[/quote]

thought the next thread was dreamer v. raven? or is that the one youre doing?
 
[quote name='JJSP']With DH Smith going to Smackdown, they're supposedly planning on Cody Rhodes turning on Holly and joining DiBiase. Keep in mind that there was a pretty big feud between their fathers which will probably be completely overlooked by the writers.[/QUOTE]

It was certainly a memorable feud, but it wasn't something that drew money, nor was it a huge feud for either man's career given their other accomplishments and rivalries. The only parts to it that were of any note at all to Dusty's career were when DiBiase "bought" Sapphire, and when the feud led to Dustin debuting in the WWF, which largely meant nothing, as he was too green to be used on a regular basis at that time.
 
Plus, WWE Creative don't write pro-wrestling; they write "action/adventure television." So, I sincerely doubt they even care about, or know, WWE's own past.
 
Angle blew his knee out again, but he's still wrestling (with a massive brace on). Also, the Ultimate Warrior returned last night, ripped to shreds, doing his one shot with NWE against Orlando Jordan (who, shockingly, did not in fact pin the Ultimate Warrior). - http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/5802/105/

TNA should really just have Angle do PPVs only at this point, as his body is still falling apart, and it'll make Angle's matches seem more special. I'm interested in seeing Warrior's comeback as he did look to be in remarkable shape for a man of his age when he did those workout vids - since he's in such good shape (at least cosmetically), it would seem like a waste for him to only do a show for the NWE.

A TNA one-shot with Sting as an opponent would have some appeal because of their names and history together, and would be a better use of Sting in TNA than anything else this year, as he's basically done nothing outside of being hit with a bottle by James Storm, then pin him.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Angle blew his knee out again, but he's still wrestling (with a massive brace on). [/QUOTE]

They really need to tell him just to sit at home for 6 months and try to recover. At this rate, he'll be in a wheelchair or a grave before he's 45.

[quote name='GuilewasNK']To be honest, despite how Vince poorly handled the draft, I think JR handled to situation really poorly as well.[/QUOTE]

Considering he was the voice of Raw and he found out about his move live on television, I think he handled it fairly well. If I was him, I would have walked out. What they did to him was beyond unprofessional.

Also on that note, new JR blog.

It is always good to visit Texas for yours truly as it’s one of the closer road trips I have to take living here in Norman, Oklahoma. San Antonio is an awesome city and the WWE HQ hotel there was the Hyatt on the River Walk which was a superb locale. Plus, the Hyatt wasn’t under renovation, which broke a recent string of several hotels we have stayed in that were "under construction to better serve you".

Of course, the Annual WWE Draft spawned several sensational, Internet stories and conspiracy theories about why people were drafted to particular brands, etc.

I have read that I knew that I was leaving Monday Night Raw prior to the draft. Wrong. I had no clue as to the move….had no travel booked to go to Houston, including no hotel room there booked prior to Tuesday nor did I take an extra suit to wear Tuesday night as I thought I was coming home, as usual. Thanks to Southwest Airlines I made it to Houston by the middle of the afternoon and then had to go purchase a new suit. After seeing about a zillion TV commercials where GeorgeZimmer touts his Men’s Warehouse Stores and how they can help a man out who is in need of emergency apparel, I gave them a try. Men’s Warehouse came through just as they say they will on their ads, which was greatly appreciated.

However, at the end of the day people are going to believe what they choose and why should they let the truth in the way of a good story?

There has also been some amazing stories that "J.R." is in some way a part of the Mr. McMahon business that occurred on Monday Night Raw at the end of the evening in San Antonio. Unless these amateur Oliver Stone’s have "inside sources" that are feeding them info that I have not heard this one is also another lame theory.

My "angry blog" earlier this week was admittedly ill advised, but it was honest on my end, even though I broke one of my own cardinal rules of writing, never write when angry. That’s not advisable for anyone who writes for public consumption. I tend to look at thingsun-objectively when I’m P.O.’ed and the result is usually a "poor me" piece of business. I hear that some folks within the WWE were all over this particular "angry blog" and wanted to make sure that the heavy hitters in the company were aware of my "ire". Of course, many of these sycophants acquit themselves by saying, "I’m just doing my job." Right.

The second blog was written while I was sitting in the San Antonio Airport during a flight delay to Houston and had calmed down and took a more objective look at the opportunity that was presented to me by moving to Smackdown. I have a chance to contribute to the essential re-branding of the network program that could lead to bigger and better things for the company that pays the Ross’ "light bill". Because this piece was largely positive, I would assume that the WWE suits were not made aware of this bit of journalism but that’s only one man’s take on a matter that really, at the end of the day, isn’t that big an issue.

I have also read where I have "changed my tune" which is essentially true, I suppose, but this "change of tune" wasn’t a result of being reprimanded as some have suggested but simply a matter of cooler heads (mine) prevailing. However, the reprimand theory does make for a better story.

As a football fan, moving to Tuesday’s is going to really be nice as I will be able to hang at one of our restaurants and enjoy the NFL on Sundays not to mention enjoy the Oklahoma Sooner fans who are in town on home game weekends. Plus, travel to the UK, for example, will not mean I have to juggle OU Football and flights and arrive on Monday morning as I have in the past and then broadcast Raw on Monday evening there. I can leave Sunday night or Monday morning and still get my work done.

But still at the end of the day, this is simply a wrestling announcer moving from one show to the other and really nothing else. Much like theNBA’s Allen Iverson once said about "practice," the same analogy can be made about this issue. It’s a "wrestling announcer" changing addresses. The vast majority of TV viewers, in all candor, do not tune in to hear a particular announcer broadcast a show anyway. Some "might" but if the product sucks and is lacking in wrestling then the channel changer is in full force….favorite announcer or not.

My first Smackdown experience with Mick Foley was well received internally and I thought it showed that we have the potential to be an entertaining team. We will work diligently to get better each week. Much like The King and I, Mick and I are great friends with a great deal of mutual respect which is not in long supply in this business. With that foundation to build upon, there is no reason that we can’t evolve along with the Smackdown brand itself which as anyone can see has a viable, new roster with many fresh faces and a much higher corporate priority than it ever has. Be sure and check out www.wwe.com for all the roster changes.

I hope that you will check out Smackdown Friday night and chime in with your thoughts on the announcing on the show. There was more in ring wrestling to call than I have been used to on Raw which was nice.

Texas has been good to the WWE for a long time, not to mention all the great Texas bred talent that the WWE and the biz in general as featured over the years, but at the box office also. Over the past few days, Amarillo, San Antonio, and Houston were all sold out or near capacity. Those 3 markets alone grossed just under $1M Sunday-Tuesday. LasCruces and Albuquerque also did well over the weekend selling almost 20,000 tickets for the two events. Dallas has sold out the American Airlines Center Sunday for the "Night of Champions" and let’s hope that the in ring wrestling product delivers to these great WWE fans. It will also be interesting to see what announcers call what matches. That will likely be decided Sunday.

I have many friends attending the event Sunday in Dallas including basketball Hall of Famer Nancy Lieberman along with her son T.J. and some of his pals. Plus the former MVP of the Orange Bowl and former OU Sooner DB "Dr." Bud Hebert who really should take the Mrs. and me to Del Frisco’s on Saturday night for one a great steak. I also expect to see long time friend and former business associate Dennis Brent, and his wife Lynn, at the event. Dennis is hooking up with Mick Foley over the weekend as Dennis has an awesome collection of wrestling memorabilia and is getting ready to launch a website featuring much of his collectibles and swag.

Monday night I absolutely plan on attending the OKC Raw as how could it be an OKC Raw without me getting my ass kicked in some shape form or fashion? :D Seriously, this is a major event for my home market and one that I am supporting as tirelessly as possible especially considering that the ticket header says "The WWE and J.R.’s Family BBQ present Monday Night Raw". I have a ticket but please don’t ask me for any comps as I am fresh out….wow I did not realize I had so many friends. As a matter of fact the Monday Night Raw Superstars and crew will enjoy catering from J.R.’s Family BBQ on Monday and many Smackdown folks are planning on stopping by our original store Monday which is at exit 109 at I-35 and Main in Norman.

OKC’s Ford Center, which will be the home for Seattle’s NBA team at some point in the future, is a great facility and I expect more fans to attend this Raw based on advance ticket sales than any event ever promoted by the WWE in OKC including the Unforgiven PPV of a couple of years ago. I will be doing a ton of media for this event on Friday in OKC with "TheGlamazon" who will join me for lunch at J.R.’s Family Bar-B-Q in Norman around 1 p.m. Friday.

With Smackdown heading to Tulsa next Tuesday, it will give me the opportunity to broadcast a wrestling show from the Tulsa Convention Center which was the home base of Bill Watts’UWF Wrestling TV show and the site of some great nights of in ring physicality. I don’t think that I have personally broadcast a wrestling match in Tulsa in over 20 years. Perhaps the "Big Cowboy" will show up and do a "walk in" and let some poor soul run into Cowboy’s rather large fist. Just like old times.

Thanks for checking out our site and for all the support that I have received this week. It has been an eventful week, including receiving emails that said I was going to "burn in hell" for working for the WWE, calling me Vince McMahon’s bit*h, that I am a "sell out" and on and on. Classy and courageous stuff, eh? However, I have received much more support than the negative, wise ass remarks and feedback that I have see on some websites. Let me simply say that all is good in Norman, I assure you. My health is good, my family is great, our new, bigger restaurant in Moore, Oklahoma will be open soon and business in our original store in Norman is awesome. Plus, the Sooners are having hellacious summer workouts. And last but not least I am still involved in wrestling which has made up a large part of my life over the past 34 years and with a new challenge a head of me. Nice way to recharge the batteries and see where the next phase of my career takes me.

Boomer Sooner!
J.R.
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Nice find, Sporadic, and I agree about Kurt. He's going to die in the ring, at this rate.

"I have read that I knew that I was leaving Monday Night Raw prior to the draft. Wrong. I had no clue as to the move….had no travel booked to go to Houston, including no hotel room there booked prior to Tuesday nor did I take an extra suit to wear Tuesday night as I thought I was coming home, as usual. Thanks to Southwest Airlines I made it to Houston by the middle of the afternoon and then had to go purchase a new suit. After seeing about a zillion TV commercials where George Zimmer touts his Men’s Warehouse Stores and how they can help a man out who is in need of emergency apparel, I gave them a try. Men’s Warehouse came through just as they say they will on their ads, which was greatly appreciated."

Nicely done, WWE. What a great example of professionalism. I know I always like to arrange business travel at the very last second without any appropriate attire. Fun.
 
That is such a dick move to shift someone who has been loyal to the company for so many years. I can't imagine RAW without JR.
 
[quote name='chasemurata']Nice find, Sporadic, and I agree about Kurt. He's going to die in the ring, at this rate.
[/QUOTE]

Crazy as it sounds, I think that's what Kurt wants. Even crazier, I can understand why.

[quote name='Scrubsy']That is such a dick move to shift someone who has been loyal to the company for so many years. I can't imagine RAW without JR.[/QUOTE]

Oh come, it's not a dick move. The product is stale, it needs to be shaken up, and JR on SD! not only full fills this role, but it also shows just how much the WWE values JR. In there mind, he's a top drawing star that's needed to help SD!.

Honestly I think it's awesome that the man that loves wrestling, got put on the wrestling brand.

On a side note, I started to watch wrestling around the time Cole & King were the announce crew (while JR played heel-face with Dr. Death). I also remember the days of Cole & King on SD! before anyone knew that Tazz had a personality, let alone could announce. So I know for a fact that team can work as they have in the past.

[quote name='PhrostByte']Time for Impact.. looking forward to AJ/Creed and the Super X cup.[/QUOTE]

Hmm . . . forgot all about Impact. Debating if I should watch that or just pop in a ROH DVD. I got like 7 I haven't even opened yet.
 
I don't think it was insulting to move Jim Ross to Smackdown. What was insulting was the way they handled it. One would think they would have had more respect for someone who has been loyal. Plus, he's Jim Ross, for crepes' sake.

And Never, I think you're right. I think Kurt believes if he dies in the ring, it will cement his legacy, or some crazy notion.
 
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