The "New Clique" Wrestling Thread

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Smackdown spoilers:

* Booker T comes out to the announcer's table and gets a big pop while Michael Cole gets major heat.

* SmackDown begins with Teddy Long backstage telling Edge that if he or Alberto Del Rio fight before WrestleMania 27 then they will both be banned from the show. Christian tells Edge to stay away from the match tonight.

* Rey Mysterio defeats CM Punk by DQ in a WrestleMania Rewind match. Cody Rhodes came out and attacked Rey with a knee brace on.

* Edge tells Christian backstage that he will still be in his corner tonight.

* Edge defeats Drew McIntyre and spears him after the match.

* Layla and Michelle McCool beat Kelly Kelly and Rosa Mendes in a quick match. Layla had her hair done like Snooki and they were mocking her. Layla cut a promo on their WrestleMania opponents after the match.

* Wade Barrett beat Kofi Kingston to become the new IC Champion when The Corre interfered and caused Kofi to be distracted. After the match, Justin Gabriel hit Kofi with a 450 Splash.

* Teddy Long tells Alberto Del Rio backstage the same thing he told Edge earlier. It will be the person who initiates the physical contact that will be removed from the WrestleMania title match.

* The Undertaker came out and talked about his WrestleMania match with Triple H. Nothing special or new here. Taker says he can't wait to see Triple H on RAW.

* Jack Swagger beat R-Truth by submission and celebrated with Michael Cole after the match.

* Christian defeated Alberto Del Rio with the Killswitch. Del Rio taunted Edge, who was in Christian's corner. Edge acted like he was going to hit Del Rio with a chair. Christian ended up hitting Del Rio with the chair.
 
Holy shit. If I had seen that when I was less than 6 years old, I would have nightmares for a week.

EDIT - Re : the insane work of art.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']I like that Nailz is in "hell."[/QUOTE]

I noticed Nailz. Who are the other two?

edit: One is playing the bagpipes and the other has to be Benoit(?)
 
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You guys need to start posting stuff like that later in the day. Between seeing that and finding out that it's Richard Grieco's birthday, my day peaked at like 8:45am.
 
[quote name='007']You guys need to start posting stuff like that later in the day. Between seeing that and finding out that it's Richard Grieco's birthday, my day peaked at like 8:45am.[/QUOTE]

Ready for it to get better? It's also KaneRobot's birthday.

::Saturn voice:: YOU'RE WELCOME
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Ready for it to get better? It's also KaneRobot's birthday.

::Saturn voice:: YOU'RE WELCOME[/QUOTE]

Wait, you've been Richard Grieco this whole time and never told us?

I am disappoint.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Ready for it to get better? It's also KaneRobot's birthday.

::Saturn voice:: YOU'RE WELCOME[/QUOTE]


....Is it really? Well...then....Happy Birthday!
 
Here's a (slightly) larger version of it.

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[quote name='Scorch']Here's a (slightly) larger version of it.

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Who the hell is that supposed to be in constellation form up to the left of Vince's ginormous melon?

Oh and LMFAO @ that video rant from Larry Zybysko.
 
Sheesh, that's a depressing thought on a few different levels. I was actually thinking about it this morning, though I always remember March 26th because of the final Nitro.

I'd also be hard-pressed to claim that wrestling has gotten better since that day, but that's a whole other conversation.

Sidenote: Ok, so that was 10 years ago. A decade. Am I the only one who suddenly feels really old now? Ha.
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']Here's something to cheer you up, 007! Today is the 10th anniversary of WWE's buyout of WCW! =D

...=([/QUOTE]
I still groan when thinking of all the angles they could've done with all of that talent, only to bork up the only angle they did and then let most of the lesser talents go.:roll:

What's really depressing to me is how many guys die so young in this business.
 
I'm currently having a conversation with someone about The Streak, and an interesting question arose: should Taker beat HHH in two weeks and then go on to next year's WM for the fill 20-0 record, who would you realistcally like to see him go up against as potential final match?
 
I still wish it had instead been WWF/WWE that died instead of WCW. WCW had better wrestling, wrestlers, entrance music, and fans, and that's all that ever mattered to my inner pro wrestling fan. WWE in the 1990s is far from good and no where as near as great as people remember it being, save for Bret Hart, Curt Hennig, Randy Savage, and a few others.

I'd take this Steamboat-Foley match over Undertaker-Kamala, Lawler-Doink, and other 'hot' feuds during those years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHoTP4OCuOU
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']I'm currently having a conversation with someone about The Streak, and an interesting question arose: should Taker beat HHH in two weeks and then go on to next year's WM for the fill 20-0 record, who would you realistcally like to see him go up against as potential final match?[/QUOTE]

Mick Foley.

While possessing no where near the athleticism of Shawn Michaels, Foley is a better speaker than Triple H and Shawn Michaels combined, and could sell the match better than anyone presently in the WWE and anyone who could ever return to the WWE.

Additionally, when you think of some of the Undertaker's greatest feuds, near the top is his feud with Mankind (Foley).
 
[quote name='Chase']I still wish it had instead been WWF/WWE that died instead of WCW. WCW had better wrestling, wrestlers, entrance music, and fans, and that's all that ever mattered to my inner pro wrestling fan. WWE in the 1990s is far from good and no where as near as great as people remember it being, save for Bret Hart, Curt Hennig, Randy Savage, and a few others.[/QUOTE]


I may agree that WCW had a better in ring product , but WWE's production value is top notch. Just compare Jericho's entrance themes from the two companies.
 
WWE has better production value, hands-down, but, in my mind, Jericho's WCW themes are more iconic to the character than his "Y2J" music.

And, again, in my opinion, WCW did better generic themes than WWE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZv5xlGtnkA

I really dislike how WWE has abused the metal genre and, for a while, gave everyone a horrible, generic metal theme.
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']I'm currently having a conversation with someone about The Streak, and an interesting question arose: should Taker beat HHH in two weeks and then go on to next year's WM for the fill 20-0 record, who would you realistcally like to see him go up against as potential final match?[/QUOTE]

undertaker vs hbk vs hhh

since im sure hbk will do something to !@#%#*(* over one of them at this year WM
 
Given that I'm not too concerned about match quality (after HBK, it seems pointless), I've always thought that the best realistic possibility would just be doing Undertaker/Kane 3. It could be the final match for both, there's a sense of history to it, and it'd be a nice sense of closure for both guys.

It's a nostalgia match, certainly, but I think it could work. That, or finally just throw Cena at him. I'd like that, but I don't feel it should be his final match, you know?
 
[quote name='Chase']Mick Foley.

While possessing no where near the athleticism of Shawn Michaels, Foley is a better speaker than Triple H and Shawn Michaels combined, and could sell the match better than anyone presently in the WWE and anyone who could ever return to the WWE.

Additionally, when you think of some of the Undertaker's greatest feuds, near the top is his feud with Mankind (Foley).[/QUOTE]
Foley would be fantastic provided he could get into wrestling shape for one final farewell. Just the thought of an emotional Foley returning to gain revenge on the greatest foe he's ever known sends chills down my spine.

Imagine Foley training for a year for one final match and getting in the best shape of his life. Just after the Rumble as the buzz for 'Taker's chance at 20-0 starts picking up steam, the WWE starts booking towards 'Mania. As 'Taker lists off the names on his 'Mania streak, the haunting Mankind song begins to play and out walks Foley. Foley cuts off 'Taker and recalls the HIAC that "made him famous". He mentions Undertaker brutalizing him throughout the match and attempting to end his career by throwing him off and through the cage. As the two rarely wrestled each other again following the match, Foley wants redemption and a chance to do the same by ending the streak at Wrestlemania.

It's either that or Cena. Which one do you want?
 
I'd personally would love to see Del Rio get the chance to end the streak. From now till next year Wrestlemania, the WWE have a chance to really build up ADR as a mega heel and I have no doubt that Del Rio can put on a great match. I'd love to see Del Rio win the title at this Wrestlemania and hold on to the title till the next WM thus setting up a Title vs Streak match.
 
There's only 3 people I want to see end, or be the victim that makes Taker go 20-0. Punk (Sentimental fav) Wade Barrett and Kane. Kane, of course makes the most sense as stated a few posts back by 007. There still has been no fallout from Nexus beating down Taker (from what I remember) So, Taker could go after Barrett. With Punk, I can see the build-up being incredible. The man can talk his ass off, and I think he could sell the hell out of the match. What the angle would be about, I can't think of off the top of my head right this moment, but I think both the build up and the match would be awesome. As I type this, I keep getting the nagging feeling that all signs point to Cena/Taker for that match though....It has potential to be pretty awesome, but I just don't want him to be the one to end the streak.
 
Honestly, I don't think that it should be broken. The 20th match should be between Taker and a deserving opponent who wouldn't mind doing the job, Legend or otherwise, but would also be able to deliver a fantastic match with a great buildup.
 
Slidecage's suggestion for next year's UT match is hilarious. I'd almost want to see it just to witness how bad everyone would shit on the idea.

The streak should never be broken. Undertaker is the exception to the rule. He doesn't have to go out on his back.
 
I also agree that the streak should go unbroken. If I had to choose a "final opponent" for Taker next year I'd want it to be against one of these three guys:

1.) Macho Man Randy Savage
2.) Dan Spivey
3.) Rowdy Roddy Piper (His current age/condition makes this highly unlikely, I know.)
4.) Ricky Steamboat
5.) Ultimate Warrior

Mind you I HATE the Warrior and it'd never ever happen but I think the build-up could be amazing and if anyone could get a decent match out of Warrior it'd be Taker. (Savage still has his best match though IMO)
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']I'm currently having a conversation with someone about The Streak, and an interesting question arose: should Taker beat HHH in two weeks and then go on to next year's WM for the fill 20-0 record, who would you realistcally like to see him go up against as potential final match?[/QUOTE]

This is solely my opinion, but I think the person to beat Undertaker, should be a person who bettered his career and it should not be a repeat of a streak match.

Don't get me wrong, my facts could totally be wrong, but I think Undertaker won his first title from Hogan. Its arguable, but in my mind, that solidified Undertaker as a dominant force. The person to beat the Undertaker should be a person who made began his career, Hogan. Hogan likely can't wrestle any longer and Undertaker one year from now would possibly need someone to make him look good.

Another one of his memorable matches to me was with Mankind, but again, he's likely so beat up that he'll never wrestling again.

This kinda analysis could go for awhile, but what does Hogan and Mankind have in common that could be viable for Taker? The Rock. There's a full year of training Rock can have to get back in condition. The Rock sells like few others. The Rock has beaten Hogan cleanly at WM. The Rock has beaten Mankind. The Rock is one of the biggest stars ever produced by the WWE. The Rock is back and is steadily gaining popularity. The Rock is my choice based only on storyline (I don't know anything about if he's injured, I had stopped watching for too many years to know why he left in the first place) and timing to take on and end the Streak.

Not to mention, many of you, at least subconsciously, feels that Triple H doesn't deserve to end the Streak.

TL;DR (I don't blame you) = The Rock, that's who I'd pick to end the Streak next year. It needs to end, to be winnable if there is to be any significance to it IMO.
 
I actually laughed at the Spivey suggestion.

[quote name='ShinSolidus']Taker's tag partner before he was Taker.[/QUOTE]

Yup, the Skyscrapers. They could even put Teddy Long back in the mix.

I really like the Foley idea, especially with JJSP's premise for it. My realistic guess is Cena. An Undertaker 20-0 match would headline WM, world titles be damned. In that scenario, I can't see Vince putting anyone less than his number one guy in that spot. I would hope that he would have enough sense to have Cena do the job (I don't doubt Cena would be fine with it).
 
Possible Rasslemania spoilers:

- The Corre were scheduled to face Big Show, Kane, Kofi Kingston and Christian at WrestleMania 27 but it looks as if Christian will have nothing to do with a Corre match as he's been in the storylines with Edge and Alberto Del Rio.

Christian may be put in Edge's corner at WrestleMania to offset Brodus Clay and Ricardo Rodriguez, or he may be added to the match to make it a three-way. A heel turn by Christian is rumored as the plan has been for Alberto Del Rio to leave WrestleMania as World Heavyweight Champion all along.
 
Yes please :pray:in regards to the spoiler.

I too would like the Undertaker streak to go on , but if he were to lose I think it should be to a new talent. I'd like to see ADR be the one but settled for Barret, Sheamus, or Punk as well.
 
[quote name='ShinSolidus']Taker's tag partner before he was Taker.[/QUOTE]

I'm well aware of that. Thing is, WWE doesn't acknowledge that he wrestled HHH ten years ago exactly. what makes you think they'll acknowledge The Skyscrapers, let alone dig up the old and broken body of Spivey? Hell, he was out of the game in the early-to-mind 1990's when he did Waylon Mercy for a moment - let alone nearly two decades later.
 
[quote name='Dr. Venkman']I also agree that the streak should go unbroken. If I had to choose a "final opponent" for Taker next year I'd want it to be against one of these three guys:

1.) Macho Man Randy Savage
2.) Dan Spivey
3.) Rowdy Roddy Piper (His current age/condition makes this highly unlikely, I know.)
4.) Ricky Steamboat
5.) Ultimate Warrior

Mind you I HATE the Warrior and it'd never ever happen but I think the build-up could be amazing and if anyone could get a decent match out of Warrior it'd be Taker. (Savage still has his best match though IMO)[/QUOTE]


That is a random list of talent that would be irrelevant to Undertaker's final match. I mean no offense. Your list caught me off guard. And, honestly, I'd rather see the Undertaker wrestle the ghosts of Ray Traylor and Yokozuna before having to endure a match, in 2012, with the Ultimate Warrior, Rowdy Piper, and Dan Spivey. (Dan Spivey? That's a random bit of relevant history.)

In regards to the hypothetical WrestleMania development, that is the
match
(Edge versus Christian)
I wish WWE had pushed for
WrestleMania
. Del
Rio
could have waited
a
year without much issue. Plus, it would have added some excitement to a truly lackluster WrestleMania line-up.
;)
 
It really does kind of have to be Cena I'd think for next year's match. They know they still have that money match waiting and Undertaker's time is rapidly running out. It is very possible that there won't even be a 20-0 match next year, but I bet both the 'E and Undertaker himself will do pretty much everything they can to make it happen. Again though, 'Taker should win no matter who it is. Cena's time to break the streak would have been around Wrestlemania 22 or 23, he's too eastablished now for it to make sense or be worth it anyway.


...that said, the idea of Cena finally turning heel during the match and ending the streak via completely outrageous cheating does make me smile a little. It would be insane, NUCLEAR heat rarely seen in wrestling, especially in the last 10 years or so.
 
The streak won't be broken. Period. If it is, I'll eat my hat, and if it's by Cena, I'll never watch WWE again. If Shawn Michaels is the greatest of all time, and he tried and failed twice, and that failure caused the end of his career, then Cena comes in and I can't even finish typing this sentence without gagging.

[quote name='lombarvm']I may agree that WCW had a better in ring product , but WWE's production value is top notch. Just compare Jericho's entrance themes from the two companies.[/QUOTE]

WCW Jericho is what I base my entire character on if I can ever save up enough money to train to wrestle. I even tried to find a theme that reminded me of the massive Pearl Jam ripoff that is his WCW theme. Some songs are just really right for a wrestler and that's one of them.
 
I was totally kidding on the Spivey comment, and I didn't really count Piper hence the three becoming five nonsense.

Knowing our luck, it will be one of the following instead of someone we actually want:

1.) Cena
2.) Vince McMahon

I know he said he's done wrestling, but they could do a huge "If anyone can end the streak it's going to be the man responsible for it starting in the first place" kind've thing. Nonsense, I know.
 
Ha! Nice list, then, Venkman. You actually had me squinting my eyes, thinking, "Wait, is he serious?" So, kudos, good sir.

KaneRobot, as much as I would like to see the Undertaker's streak remain unbroken, if it puts over anyone, particularly John Cena, as a heel—and WWE keeps him heel for a long time—then I would show some support.

The only way something of that incredible magnitude happens is if WWE's ratings continue to slide. I truly hope their ratings continue to slide, for our sakes.
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']Honestly, I don't think that it should be broken. The 20th match should be between Taker and a deserving opponent who wouldn't mind doing the job, Legend or otherwise, but would also be able to deliver a fantastic match with a great buildup.[/QUOTE]HBK Vs. Undertaker III, perhaps?

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Generic WCW Theme Music >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Generic WWE Theme Music.

WCW's music sounds more like "actual" music than the WWE's generic looped theme songs. Regardless of the fact that they're inspired by popular songs, I'd take Chris Jericho's "Evenflow", Raven's "Come As You Are", and DDP's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" themes over any Jim Johnson WWE theme song from the last decade. Attitude Era WWF theme music was great, though. No complaints there.
 
What if Taker wins the match, then Cena turns heel by destroying him after...leaves it open ended - Taker doesn't seem like the type to want a big farewell. Go for the shocking WMX7 style ending. Cena turns, Taker keeps the streak.
 
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