Uncharted is 39.99 on the Sony store.
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The Official PlayStation Vita Thread - 11/4: FW 3.00 Coming Just in Time for the PS4 Launch!
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[quote name='gettinmoney662']Granted, this is pure speculation, but you guys think there will be any deals for a free game or anything on launch? I want to get this but the CAG in me is saying wait until you can get a free game or something, especially with my backlog.[/QUOTE]
I'm waiting for the xmas bundle. You'll only have to wait 10 months. And by that time the launch games and memory cards should have gotten cheaper in price as well.
I'm waiting for the xmas bundle. You'll only have to wait 10 months. And by that time the launch games and memory cards should have gotten cheaper in price as well.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/17/mortal-kombat-goes-portable-on-vita-in-spring-2012/
Mortal Kombat will be out on Vita a bit after launch and includes Kratos along with the four DLC characters. There's more bonus content, but they're not talking about that just yet.
Mortal Kombat will be out on Vita a bit after launch and includes Kratos along with the four DLC characters. There's more bonus content, but they're not talking about that just yet.
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Necessary for some games for saves.
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[quote name='KingDox']I'm waiting for the xmas bundle. You'll only have to wait 10 months. And by that time the launch games and memory cards should have gotten cheaper in price as well.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure I'll be able to wait for a xmas bundle, but I've decided to cancel my launch-day order on Amazon and wait to see what kind of post-launch deals they start to offer. I remember with the 3DS that there were tons of deals popping up the week before and the weeks following launch, and given the high price of many of the Vita games, I expect to see some deals on the games, possibly when purchased with the Vita.
However, I still have my order for the 32GB card with Amazon because I know that once I get my Vita I'll need a card immediately to store my Uncharted game saves and extra storage space for all of my PSN games and future purchases. I don't want to waste time with smaller capacity cards that I'll quickly outgrow, and the hassle of doing a restart every time you swap cards is a hassle (a minor hassle, but still a hassle). I'm also a bit paranoid that the 32GB cards may become hard to get like they did in Japan and I don't expect the 16/32GB cards to drop in price very soon or be part of any bundles. Of course, I could be wrong...only time will tell.
I'm not sure I'll be able to wait for a xmas bundle, but I've decided to cancel my launch-day order on Amazon and wait to see what kind of post-launch deals they start to offer. I remember with the 3DS that there were tons of deals popping up the week before and the weeks following launch, and given the high price of many of the Vita games, I expect to see some deals on the games, possibly when purchased with the Vita.
However, I still have my order for the 32GB card with Amazon because I know that once I get my Vita I'll need a card immediately to store my Uncharted game saves and extra storage space for all of my PSN games and future purchases. I don't want to waste time with smaller capacity cards that I'll quickly outgrow, and the hassle of doing a restart every time you swap cards is a hassle (a minor hassle, but still a hassle). I'm also a bit paranoid that the 32GB cards may become hard to get like they did in Japan and I don't expect the 16/32GB cards to drop in price very soon or be part of any bundles. Of course, I could be wrong...only time will tell.
[quote name='orntar']that can not be true. there is no way they would sell a system that will not work out of the box.
back it up with some sources.
it may not do a lot, but it will certainly work.[/QUOTE]
He means the games won't play without a memory card.
back it up with some sources.
it may not do a lot, but it will certainly work.[/QUOTE]
He means the games won't play without a memory card.
[quote name='orntar']that can not be true. there is no way they would sell a system that will not work out of the box.
back it up with some sources.
it may not do a lot, but it will certainly work.[/QUOTE]
I was listening to the 8-4 Play podcast and one of the guys said Uncharted wouldn't boot up without a memory card, so they are absolutely necessary for some games to run.
back it up with some sources.
it may not do a lot, but it will certainly work.[/QUOTE]
I was listening to the 8-4 Play podcast and one of the guys said Uncharted wouldn't boot up without a memory card, so they are absolutely necessary for some games to run.
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I wonder how long it takes for an adapter for SDHC cards to pop up. I'll probably get a small card to start in hopes that an adapter is going to show up.
edit: checked the dimensions. Looks like vita memory cards are smaller than microSD. That would essentially prevent third party cards for good.
edit: checked the dimensions. Looks like vita memory cards are smaller than microSD. That would essentially prevent third party cards for good.
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Hard to believe people are still whining about the need for a memory card. If you can't afford $20 for a 4gb card, you can't afford the Vita either. Seriously, what a non-issue.
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[quote name='chimpmeister']Hard to believe people are still whining about the need for a memory card. If you can't afford $20 for a 4gb card, you can't afford the Vita either. Seriously, what a non-issue.[/QUOTE]
It's not about affording... I have two preordered, then they drop this ball on us. It's obviously not $250, but $270 minimum.
It's not about affording... I have two preordered, then they drop this ball on us. It's obviously not $250, but $270 minimum.
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[quote name='elessar123']It's not about affording... I have two preordered, then they drop this ball on us. It's obviously not $250, but $270 minimum.[/QUOTE]
And again, if $20 makes a difference to anyone (not citing you), then those people should just skip the Vita and move on, because they obviously can't afford it if $20 is a make-or-break issue. It really is no big deal at all, considering the amount of technology that's crammed into the Vita. I'm just glad they didn't cheap out on the screen, CPU, GPU, etc. in the actual design, unlike some other companies.
And again, if $20 makes a difference to anyone (not citing you), then those people should just skip the Vita and move on, because they obviously can't afford it if $20 is a make-or-break issue. It really is no big deal at all, considering the amount of technology that's crammed into the Vita. I'm just glad they didn't cheap out on the screen, CPU, GPU, etc. in the actual design, unlike some other companies.
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It's a lesson that Sony has learned. With the xbox 360, MS crammed a powerful CPU and GPU in there and opted to leave out wifi, hdmi, a hard drive etc. People griped about all the accessories they had to buy, but it's what allowed them to price it how they did. Sony opted to include all the technology they could, and it started sky high in price. Sales started slow and it had trouble picking up momentum. Sony learned that lesson and applied it to the Vita. They included the technology they thought was necessary to compete and left out the stuff that could easily be added. There are likely selling Vitas near cost for $250 (if not losing a slight amount). By using the same methodology they do for games (make money on games and licensing), they can get people into the system for less.
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As far as I can tell, the situation isn't much different than it was with the PSP where you had to have a storage card to save your UMD game saves or to download any content from PSN.
Only real difference is that (like Nintendo games), the new flash-based Vita games "can" store some information on the cards.
I can't think of any good reason why Uncharted on the Vita needs to store its saves on a separate flash card unless they've filled up the max capacity of the game cards with the game and other content and/or the gave save files were too large to fit on the remaining space in the game card.
Of course, a more paranoid explanation is that Sony requested/demanded that the developers behind the Uncharted game (which I expect will be at the top of every Vita owner's "must buy" list) implement the game in this manner with the goal of driving sales of the high-margin proprietary flash cards (and don't think there will be microsd adapters for the Vita any time in the foreseeable future...ain't gonna happen due to the similar sizes and built-in DRM of the Vita cards which is far tighter than previous variations).
Only real difference is that (like Nintendo games), the new flash-based Vita games "can" store some information on the cards.
I can't think of any good reason why Uncharted on the Vita needs to store its saves on a separate flash card unless they've filled up the max capacity of the game cards with the game and other content and/or the gave save files were too large to fit on the remaining space in the game card.
Of course, a more paranoid explanation is that Sony requested/demanded that the developers behind the Uncharted game (which I expect will be at the top of every Vita owner's "must buy" list) implement the game in this manner with the goal of driving sales of the high-margin proprietary flash cards (and don't think there will be microsd adapters for the Vita any time in the foreseeable future...ain't gonna happen due to the similar sizes and built-in DRM of the Vita cards which is far tighter than previous variations).
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[quote name='DarkonJohn']As far as I can tell, the situation isn't much different than it was with the PSP where you had to have a storage card to save your UMD game saves or to download any content from PSN.
Only real difference is that (like Nintendo games), the new flash-based Vita games "can" store some information on the cards.
I can't think of any good reason why Uncharted on the Vita needs to store its saves on a separate flash card unless they've filled up the max capacity of the game cards with the game and other content and/or the gave save files were too large to fit on the remaining space in the game card.
Of course, a more paranoid explanation is that Sony requested/demanded that the developers behind the Uncharted game (which I expect will be at the top of every Vita owner's "must buy" list) implement the game in this manner with the goal of driving sales of the high-margin proprietary flash cards (and don't think there will be microsd adapters for the Vita any time in the foreseeable future...ain't gonna happen due to the similar sizes and built-in DRM of the Vita cards which is far tighter than previous variations).[/QUOTE]
The obvious point to make is that, even if it isn't that much different than the PSP's use of Memory Sticks, the PSP came with a Memory Stick. There's also the important point that you could still play UMDs without a memory stick.
That's bothersome thing to me about this. It's possible to go buy a Vita at launch with Uncharted... and that's not enough to play it. I really only expect one thing out of a system and that's the ability to play games. Once you remove that, I begin to question things.
Even back to the old days of memory cards (PlayStation, N64, GameCube, etc), you could still PLAY the game, even if you couldn't save. Yeah, that sucked, but at least you could boot it up and experience the game. Sony, for whatever reason, has removed that functionality from the marquee game of the Vita. It's
ing baffling. I understand Sony wanted to tout the $250 pricetag, but that's just blatantly not the price of the Vita. What good is a game console that can't play it's own games?
Only real difference is that (like Nintendo games), the new flash-based Vita games "can" store some information on the cards.
I can't think of any good reason why Uncharted on the Vita needs to store its saves on a separate flash card unless they've filled up the max capacity of the game cards with the game and other content and/or the gave save files were too large to fit on the remaining space in the game card.
Of course, a more paranoid explanation is that Sony requested/demanded that the developers behind the Uncharted game (which I expect will be at the top of every Vita owner's "must buy" list) implement the game in this manner with the goal of driving sales of the high-margin proprietary flash cards (and don't think there will be microsd adapters for the Vita any time in the foreseeable future...ain't gonna happen due to the similar sizes and built-in DRM of the Vita cards which is far tighter than previous variations).[/QUOTE]
The obvious point to make is that, even if it isn't that much different than the PSP's use of Memory Sticks, the PSP came with a Memory Stick. There's also the important point that you could still play UMDs without a memory stick.
That's bothersome thing to me about this. It's possible to go buy a Vita at launch with Uncharted... and that's not enough to play it. I really only expect one thing out of a system and that's the ability to play games. Once you remove that, I begin to question things.
Even back to the old days of memory cards (PlayStation, N64, GameCube, etc), you could still PLAY the game, even if you couldn't save. Yeah, that sucked, but at least you could boot it up and experience the game. Sony, for whatever reason, has removed that functionality from the marquee game of the Vita. It's
ing baffling. I understand Sony wanted to tout the $250 pricetag, but that's just blatantly not the price of the Vita. What good is a game console that can't play it's own games?
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[quote name='007']The obvious point to make is that, even if it isn't that much different than the PSP's use of Memory Sticks, the PSP came with a Memory Stick. There's also the important point that you could still play UMDs without a memory stick.
That's bothersome thing to me about this. It's possible to go buy a Vita at launch with Uncharted... and that's not enough to play it. I really only expect one thing out of a system and that's the ability to play games. Once you remove that, I begin to question things.
Even back to the old days of memory cards (PlayStation, N64, GameCube, etc), you could still PLAY the game, even if you couldn't save. Yeah, that sucked, but at least you could boot it up and experience the game. Sony, for whatever reason, has removed that functionality from the marquee game of the Vita. It'sing baffling. I understand Sony wanted to tout the $250 pricetag, but that's just blatantly not the price of the Vita. What good is a game console that can't play it's own games?[/QUOTE]
But not every game requires it. For example if I only want a Vita for Marvel vs Capcom I do not need a memory card.
That's bothersome thing to me about this. It's possible to go buy a Vita at launch with Uncharted... and that's not enough to play it. I really only expect one thing out of a system and that's the ability to play games. Once you remove that, I begin to question things.
Even back to the old days of memory cards (PlayStation, N64, GameCube, etc), you could still PLAY the game, even if you couldn't save. Yeah, that sucked, but at least you could boot it up and experience the game. Sony, for whatever reason, has removed that functionality from the marquee game of the Vita. It's
ing baffling. I understand Sony wanted to tout the $250 pricetag, but that's just blatantly not the price of the Vita. What good is a game console that can't play it's own games?[/QUOTE]But not every game requires it. For example if I only want a Vita for Marvel vs Capcom I do not need a memory card.
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Did all PSPs come with a memory stick? I only saw a stick included with some of the bundles (game, stick and PSP). Even the current PSP-3000 core systems don't come with a memory stick.
I think the main point of frustration is that while MOST Vita games probably don't require a memory card, the most desirable game (Uncharted) does, which forces the decision and essentially makes it a $70 game if that's going to be your first purchase, which is pretty damn expensive for a portable game. So rather than adding the $20 for the card to the price of the Vita, you should be adding it to the price of Uncharted.
But yeah, while the entry point sounds "reasonable" at $250, you quickly get up to ~$350 for the console and your first one or two games (if one of them is Uncharted).
Just remember that launch day buyers ALWAYS pay a premium so they can satisfy their desires immediately. If you can't afford it or don't think it is worth it, then don't buy it at launch because everyone knows the prices will go down at some point and there will also be some bundles in the future that include storage cards.
I think the main point of frustration is that while MOST Vita games probably don't require a memory card, the most desirable game (Uncharted) does, which forces the decision and essentially makes it a $70 game if that's going to be your first purchase, which is pretty damn expensive for a portable game. So rather than adding the $20 for the card to the price of the Vita, you should be adding it to the price of Uncharted.
But yeah, while the entry point sounds "reasonable" at $250, you quickly get up to ~$350 for the console and your first one or two games (if one of them is Uncharted).
Just remember that launch day buyers ALWAYS pay a premium so they can satisfy their desires immediately. If you can't afford it or don't think it is worth it, then don't buy it at launch because everyone knows the prices will go down at some point and there will also be some bundles in the future that include storage cards.
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Vita sales are pretty bad in Japan... For Jan 9-15:
3DS sold 100,668
PS3 sold 30,332
PSP sold 22,538
Vita sold 18,361
Ouch.
3DS sold 100,668
PS3 sold 30,332
PSP sold 22,538
Vita sold 18,361
Ouch.
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I understand that all games don't require a memory stick, but the sheer fact that some do negates that for me. I'm just baffled that Sony is selling a system that will only play SOME of it's launch games right out of the box. If someone can't see what's inherently wrong with that, then I just don't know what else to say. To me, the entire point of console gaming was the comfort of an across the board compatibility standard. You put a game in and it works... anything beyond that is up to the user. Forcing the user to pay extra for basic functionality, well, I just really don't like the precedent that this sets.
I mean, to me, this is like selling a home console that doesn't come with a controller.
darkon... honestly, since the two PSPs I bought came with a card, I always assumed that all models did. I could be off-base there. Still, the inherent functionality of the system didn't require, so including the card is more a bonus than anything.
Edit - Jesus, those Japanese Vita numbers are bad. There's just no way to spin that into a positive. It's one region, sure, but think about how much pressure this puts on the US and European launches. The 3DS had issues out of the gate, but the numbers were never that bad, right?
I mean, to me, this is like selling a home console that doesn't come with a controller.
darkon... honestly, since the two PSPs I bought came with a card, I always assumed that all models did. I could be off-base there. Still, the inherent functionality of the system didn't require, so including the card is more a bonus than anything.
Edit - Jesus, those Japanese Vita numbers are bad. There's just no way to spin that into a positive. It's one region, sure, but think about how much pressure this puts on the US and European launches. The 3DS had issues out of the gate, but the numbers were never that bad, right?
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[quote name='007']Edit - Jesus, those Japanese Vita numbers are bad. There's just no way to spin that into a positive.[/QUOTE]
This just in - Sony announces that they will have plenty of Vitas for US launch.
This just in - Sony announces that they will have plenty of Vitas for US launch.
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[quote name='007']
darkon... honestly, since the two PSPs I bought came with a card, I always assumed that all models did. I could be off-base there. Still, the inherent functionality of the system didn't require, so including the card is more a bonus than anything.
Edit - Jesus, those Japanese Vita numbers are bad. There's just no way to spin that into a positive. It's one region, sure, but think about how much pressure this puts on the US and European launches. The 3DS had issues out of the gate, but the numbers were never that bad, right?[/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong...as a consumer, I think Sony should have bundled the console with at least a minimal 1GB or 2GB card...enough to download a "mini" Vita game from PSN and for game saves for Uncharted. This would have a minimal impact on the profit margins and would avoid pissing off a lot of people. But really, I think this is a short-term problem because once you buy your first storage card (and I think nearly EVERYONE will get at least one card), the issue becomes irrelevant.
I've heard that one reason the Vita sales declined is that some stores ran out of the WiFi model, which is why they started discounting the 3G model at some stores, but I'm not sure how much truth there is to that version of the story. Some stores did sell out and it is possible they are diverting some sales in Japan to have enough units for the US/Europe launch, but I think that's probably wishful thinking.
Most likely the launch-day crowds bought up as much as the group needed, and nearly everyone else is waiting for the first round of price cuts/bundles. I'd expect to see bundles/promotions before an actual drop in MSRP, and many of those deals with by done by the stores, not Sony.
Personally, the pricing does bother me enough that I'm probably going to not buy on launch day and will instead try to wait for some promotion on a game/console bundle. My reason is not because I can't afford to buy it at the launch price, but that I have enough other games to keep me busy that I don't need to pay a premium for something when I have plenty of other things to keep me busy and entertained. Sometimes buying at launch puts you in the "cool crowd" (such as getting the latest iPhone or iPad), but in this case I'd feel like I was joining the "sucker" crowd (like when I bought my 3DS).
darkon... honestly, since the two PSPs I bought came with a card, I always assumed that all models did. I could be off-base there. Still, the inherent functionality of the system didn't require, so including the card is more a bonus than anything.
Edit - Jesus, those Japanese Vita numbers are bad. There's just no way to spin that into a positive. It's one region, sure, but think about how much pressure this puts on the US and European launches. The 3DS had issues out of the gate, but the numbers were never that bad, right?[/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong...as a consumer, I think Sony should have bundled the console with at least a minimal 1GB or 2GB card...enough to download a "mini" Vita game from PSN and for game saves for Uncharted. This would have a minimal impact on the profit margins and would avoid pissing off a lot of people. But really, I think this is a short-term problem because once you buy your first storage card (and I think nearly EVERYONE will get at least one card), the issue becomes irrelevant.
I've heard that one reason the Vita sales declined is that some stores ran out of the WiFi model, which is why they started discounting the 3G model at some stores, but I'm not sure how much truth there is to that version of the story. Some stores did sell out and it is possible they are diverting some sales in Japan to have enough units for the US/Europe launch, but I think that's probably wishful thinking.
Most likely the launch-day crowds bought up as much as the group needed, and nearly everyone else is waiting for the first round of price cuts/bundles. I'd expect to see bundles/promotions before an actual drop in MSRP, and many of those deals with by done by the stores, not Sony.
Personally, the pricing does bother me enough that I'm probably going to not buy on launch day and will instead try to wait for some promotion on a game/console bundle. My reason is not because I can't afford to buy it at the launch price, but that I have enough other games to keep me busy that I don't need to pay a premium for something when I have plenty of other things to keep me busy and entertained. Sometimes buying at launch puts you in the "cool crowd" (such as getting the latest iPhone or iPad), but in this case I'd feel like I was joining the "sucker" crowd (like when I bought my 3DS).
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No amount of wifi versus 3g availability explains only 20k in sales. I'm wondering if the size of the unit or lack of killer apps for Japanese gamers has anything to do with it? Maybe everyone already bought a 3DS?
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I think they sold a TON of them in the first few days in Japan, but after that the volume really dropped off. Probably the number and quality of games in Japan was a significant reason, but I think price must also be a factor. And for Japan, many of the desirable games are still on PSP instead of the Vita (at least not yet).
Within the next 6-12 months I predict the following:
1) Termination of the 3G model - I don't think there are enough people that might want want this, don't already have WiFi access nearly everywhere (or via their phone's hotspot feature while travelling) but also have enough spare money to afford the $50 premium PLUS monthly fees. I think it was an interesting experiment, but killing off the 3G model won't cause anyone to not buy a Vita and will save money by only having a single WiFi version.
2) A Vita/game/card bundle - Most obvious candidate is an Uncharted bundle. Will probably only be $10 - $20 less than buying the items individually, but the bundle will be enough to get people to pull the trigger since they get everything in a bundle. Plus, the bundle can always be discounted another $10 or $20 by retailers.
3) A $25 - $50 price drop on the base model by the next holiday season.
After 12 months, I wouldn't be surprised to see an updated model with some built-in storage (16GB) and possibly smaller (like the PSPgo, but able to accept the new game cards).
While I don't consider tablets/smartphones to be competitive with the Vita (or 3DS) for playing games, they do offer enough functionality and entertainment value (and flexibility for non-gaming purposes) to satisfy the gaming needs of the majority of casual gamers. While I hope they both succeed, I think both Nintendo and Sony have a rough road ahead of them in trying to sell dedicated handheld gaming devices.
Within the next 6-12 months I predict the following:
1) Termination of the 3G model - I don't think there are enough people that might want want this, don't already have WiFi access nearly everywhere (or via their phone's hotspot feature while travelling) but also have enough spare money to afford the $50 premium PLUS monthly fees. I think it was an interesting experiment, but killing off the 3G model won't cause anyone to not buy a Vita and will save money by only having a single WiFi version.
2) A Vita/game/card bundle - Most obvious candidate is an Uncharted bundle. Will probably only be $10 - $20 less than buying the items individually, but the bundle will be enough to get people to pull the trigger since they get everything in a bundle. Plus, the bundle can always be discounted another $10 or $20 by retailers.
3) A $25 - $50 price drop on the base model by the next holiday season.
After 12 months, I wouldn't be surprised to see an updated model with some built-in storage (16GB) and possibly smaller (like the PSPgo, but able to accept the new game cards).
While I don't consider tablets/smartphones to be competitive with the Vita (or 3DS) for playing games, they do offer enough functionality and entertainment value (and flexibility for non-gaming purposes) to satisfy the gaming needs of the majority of casual gamers. While I hope they both succeed, I think both Nintendo and Sony have a rough road ahead of them in trying to sell dedicated handheld gaming devices.
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PSPs did not come with memory cards, only bundles (launch bundle and entertainment packs) came with memory cards.
The problem with Vita sales in Japan is that it doesn't have Monster Hunter. 3DS has the hot new game and PSP has the classics, so they'll beat out the Vita until it gets a big game that'll push more units.
The problem with Vita sales in Japan is that it doesn't have Monster Hunter. 3DS has the hot new game and PSP has the classics, so they'll beat out the Vita until it gets a big game that'll push more units.
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I'm too lazy to research it myself, but I'm curious how early sales of the Vita compare to those of the 3DS in Japan.
[quote name='elessar123']Vita sales are pretty bad in Japan... For Jan 9-15:
3DS sold 100,668
PS3 sold 30,332
PSP sold 22,538
Vita sold 18,361
Ouch.[/QUOTE]
There's just no sign of those sales turning around. I have serious doubts about buying a Vita now given how bad sales have gotten. I have plenty of Amazon credit for it but if they start to dip below 10k in Japan before US even launches I can't imagine they won't be dropping the price.
At this point I'll wait it out. I know there's a solid launch lineup in the US but I just can't shake the feeling the thing is either gonna be a complete disaster and be discontinued (not too likely) or that its going to get at least a $50 pricecut within the first few months. In either instance, I feel like the incentive is to wait and see rather than be an early adopter
3DS sold 100,668
PS3 sold 30,332
PSP sold 22,538
Vita sold 18,361
Ouch.[/QUOTE]
There's just no sign of those sales turning around. I have serious doubts about buying a Vita now given how bad sales have gotten. I have plenty of Amazon credit for it but if they start to dip below 10k in Japan before US even launches I can't imagine they won't be dropping the price.
At this point I'll wait it out. I know there's a solid launch lineup in the US but I just can't shake the feeling the thing is either gonna be a complete disaster and be discontinued (not too likely) or that its going to get at least a $50 pricecut within the first few months. In either instance, I feel like the incentive is to wait and see rather than be an early adopter
[quote name='RedvsBlue']There's just no sign of those sales turning around. I have serious doubts about buying a Vita now given how bad sales have gotten. I have plenty of Amazon credit for it but if they start to dip below 10k in Japan before US even launches I can't imagine they won't be dropping the price.
At this point I'll wait it out. I know there's a solid launch lineup in the US but I just can't shake the feeling the thing is either gonna be a complete disaster and be discontinued (not too likely) or that its going to get at least a $50 pricecut within the first few months. In either instance, I feel like the incentive is to wait and see rather than be an early adopter[/QUOTE]
If you've got enough other games either coming out or in your backlog then I just don't see how this isn't the wisest course of action.
At this point I'll wait it out. I know there's a solid launch lineup in the US but I just can't shake the feeling the thing is either gonna be a complete disaster and be discontinued (not too likely) or that its going to get at least a $50 pricecut within the first few months. In either instance, I feel like the incentive is to wait and see rather than be an early adopter[/QUOTE]
If you've got enough other games either coming out or in your backlog then I just don't see how this isn't the wisest course of action.
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[quote name='RedvsBlue']There's just no sign of those sales turning around. I have serious doubts about buying a Vita now given how bad sales have gotten. I have plenty of Amazon credit for it but if they start to dip below 10k in Japan before US even launches I can't imagine they won't be dropping the price.
At this point I'll wait it out. I know there's a solid launch lineup in the US but I just can't shake the feeling the thing is either gonna be a complete disaster and be discontinued (not too likely) or that its going to get at least a $50 pricecut within the first few months. In either instance, I feel like the incentive is to wait and see rather than be an early adopter[/QUOTE]
You don't think they'd appease early adopters like nintendo did with the 3DS?
At this point I'll wait it out. I know there's a solid launch lineup in the US but I just can't shake the feeling the thing is either gonna be a complete disaster and be discontinued (not too likely) or that its going to get at least a $50 pricecut within the first few months. In either instance, I feel like the incentive is to wait and see rather than be an early adopter[/QUOTE]
You don't think they'd appease early adopters like nintendo did with the 3DS?
[quote name='Anexanhume']You don't think they'd appease early adopters like nintendo did with the 3DS?[/QUOTE]
Maybe, but i don't want to rely on that happening because there's no guarantee they would. I mean they dropped the price of the PS3 by $100 about 7 months after launch and never had any compensation for early adopters so who's to say they'd do it on Vita?
Maybe, but i don't want to rely on that happening because there's no guarantee they would. I mean they dropped the price of the PS3 by $100 about 7 months after launch and never had any compensation for early adopters so who's to say they'd do it on Vita?
gettinmoney662
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If I got this at launch and they ended up dropping the price by $50 or so in six months, I would not be upset because there are some great games at launch and portable trophies are just too tempting. I might wait a week or two to see if there are any good deals but if not, I'll probably just pull the trigger.
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[quote name='gettinmoney662']If I got this at launch and they ended up dropping the price by $50 or so in six months, I would not be upset because there are some great games at launch and portable trophies are just too tempting. I might wait a week or two to see if there are any good deals but if not, I'll probably just pull the trigger.[/QUOTE]
This is exaclty how I feel. I'm tired of playing games on my phone and I had the PSP but I was young nd didn't have money to buy games nd I gave it to my brother for his birthday a while ago. Does anybody think that if they did a revision and made it cheaper that they would remove the OLED screen. If it drops $50 more than 6 months later then I wouldn't be mad since I'm sure I would enjoy having all the games coming out for it
This is exaclty how I feel. I'm tired of playing games on my phone and I had the PSP but I was young nd didn't have money to buy games nd I gave it to my brother for his birthday a while ago. Does anybody think that if they did a revision and made it cheaper that they would remove the OLED screen. If it drops $50 more than 6 months later then I wouldn't be mad since I'm sure I would enjoy having all the games coming out for it
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[quote name='MSI Magus']*wonders if when the Vita comes out in the US Sony fans will still be trying to blame poor sales on a lack of Monster Hunter or some other silly reason vs accepting in a bad economy a $250 system with a $100 memory card is insane*[/QUOTE]
No, I think a $250 system with $100 memory cards is insane for a portable that isn't very portable, Monster Hunter or not. Only game the GF and I even want right now is Katamari, so I'm really leaning toward canceling.
I mean, even if Sony had free cloud save services, I'd be ok. Actually, much happier.
No, I think a $250 system with $100 memory cards is insane for a portable that isn't very portable, Monster Hunter or not. Only game the GF and I even want right now is Katamari, so I'm really leaning toward canceling.
I mean, even if Sony had free cloud save services, I'd be ok. Actually, much happier.
gettinmoney662
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[quote name='MSI Magus']*wonders if when the Vita comes out in the US Sony fans will still be trying to blame poor sales on a lack of Monster Hunter or some other silly reason vs accepting in a bad economy a $250 system with a $100 memory card is insane*[/QUOTE]
That's a Kurt Cobain quote, not a Miz quote.
That's a Kurt Cobain quote, not a Miz quote.
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[quote name='MSI Magus']*wonders if when the Vita comes out in the US Sony fans will still be trying to blame poor sales on a lack of Monster Hunter or some other silly reason vs accepting in a bad economy a $250 system with a $100 memory card is insane*[/QUOTE]
Yet people still go crazy over tablets especially ipads when they're so expensive and unnecessary. Not everybody wants a 32gb memory card plus its better than paying $100 for 16gb more of memory like the ipads.
Yet people still go crazy over tablets especially ipads when they're so expensive and unnecessary. Not everybody wants a 32gb memory card plus its better than paying $100 for 16gb more of memory like the ipads.
[quote name='JG5253']Yet people still go crazy over tablets especially ipads when they're so expensive and unnecessary. Not everybody wants a 32gb memory card plus its better than paying $100 for 16gb more of memory like the ipads.[/QUOTE]
Nahhhh dood, ya like, gots ta buy teh 32 GB card , just cuz.
I'm pretty sure I'll be fine with an 8 GB for now, since I never plan to actually download any games I can get at retail. Maybe I'll bounce up to a 16, depends on how much credit I have by then.
Sales aren't going to bother me, since I don't really pay attention to that. Unless say.. they decide to stop manufacturing it early, doubtful that will be the case with the Vita.
Nahhhh dood, ya like, gots ta buy teh 32 GB card , just cuz.
I'm pretty sure I'll be fine with an 8 GB for now, since I never plan to actually download any games I can get at retail. Maybe I'll bounce up to a 16, depends on how much credit I have by then.
Sales aren't going to bother me, since I don't really pay attention to that. Unless say.. they decide to stop manufacturing it early, doubtful that will be the case with the Vita.
[quote name='JG5253']Yet people still go crazy over tablets especially ipads when they're so expensive and unnecessary. Not everybody wants a 32gb memory card plus its better than paying $100 for 16gb more of memory like the ipads.[/QUOTE]
Two problems with this logic.
1. Ipads offer a lot of games the vita doesnt and most likely never will. I have dozens of board games on my ipad...so far on PSN iv seen maybe 5 or 6 go up if that. And on the Vita id have to play on a smaller screen.
2. The bigger issue is that IOS offers cheap and even free games. I download about 3-10 games a day on my ipad, most are free and the rest cost me $1-5. A Vita game will cost $50+ and even if you go with downloadable games most are still in the $10-$15 range. Vita wont even begin to compete in the pricing arena when you factor in game cost. And dont tell me that Ipad games are junk, anyone that says this has not experienced what the system offers. Yes 90% of whats on the market is junk but so is 90% of what is released for other consoles/handhelds. Its just that with the more mainstream gaming system games get hyped so you hear about them.
BTW yes not everyone wants the 32gb mem card, but anyone that wants to play PSN games will. I mean honestly 32gb is a drop in the buck.....
Two problems with this logic.
1. Ipads offer a lot of games the vita doesnt and most likely never will. I have dozens of board games on my ipad...so far on PSN iv seen maybe 5 or 6 go up if that. And on the Vita id have to play on a smaller screen.
2. The bigger issue is that IOS offers cheap and even free games. I download about 3-10 games a day on my ipad, most are free and the rest cost me $1-5. A Vita game will cost $50+ and even if you go with downloadable games most are still in the $10-$15 range. Vita wont even begin to compete in the pricing arena when you factor in game cost. And dont tell me that Ipad games are junk, anyone that says this has not experienced what the system offers. Yes 90% of whats on the market is junk but so is 90% of what is released for other consoles/handhelds. Its just that with the more mainstream gaming system games get hyped so you hear about them.
BTW yes not everyone wants the 32gb mem card, but anyone that wants to play PSN games will. I mean honestly 32gb is a drop in the buck.....
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[quote name='MSI Magus']Two problems with this logic.
1. Ipads offer a lot of games the vita doesnt and most likely never will. I have dozens of board games on my ipad...so far on PSN iv seen maybe 5 or 6 go up if that. And on the Vita id have to play on a smaller screen.
2. The bigger issue is that IOS offers cheap and even free games. I download about 3-10 games a day on my ipad, most are free and the rest cost me $1-5. A Vita game will cost $50+ and even if you go with downloadable games most are still in the $10-$15 range. Vita wont even begin to compete in the pricing arena when you factor in game cost. And dont tell me that Ipad games are junk, anyone that says this has not experienced what the system offers. Yes 90% of whats on the market is junk but so is 90% of what is released for other consoles/handhelds. Its just that with the more mainstream gaming system games get hyped so you hear about them.
BTW yes not everyone wants the 32gb mem card, but anyone that wants to play PSN games will. I mean honestly 32gb is a drop in the buck.....[/QUOTE]
How do you know games that the iPad offers would never be on the Vita. I'm pretty sure the Vita is capable of running anything the iPad can. There are some good mobile games but they are nothing compared to actual games. I could only play most mobile games in small dosages to waste a little time in line or in the bathroom etc. Another thing is that a 5 inch screen is pretty big and much more portable than the iPad. I'm looking forward to play on the OLED screen also because the OLED on my Zune HD is awesome.
Why would you say Vita games would cost $50+ when the Uncharted is the only one priced at $50 and there are some games launching at $30 and most at $40
BTW Did you get the 32GB version of the iPad? Did it make you upset that you had to pay $100 more just for 16GB upgrade?
1. Ipads offer a lot of games the vita doesnt and most likely never will. I have dozens of board games on my ipad...so far on PSN iv seen maybe 5 or 6 go up if that. And on the Vita id have to play on a smaller screen.
2. The bigger issue is that IOS offers cheap and even free games. I download about 3-10 games a day on my ipad, most are free and the rest cost me $1-5. A Vita game will cost $50+ and even if you go with downloadable games most are still in the $10-$15 range. Vita wont even begin to compete in the pricing arena when you factor in game cost. And dont tell me that Ipad games are junk, anyone that says this has not experienced what the system offers. Yes 90% of whats on the market is junk but so is 90% of what is released for other consoles/handhelds. Its just that with the more mainstream gaming system games get hyped so you hear about them.
BTW yes not everyone wants the 32gb mem card, but anyone that wants to play PSN games will. I mean honestly 32gb is a drop in the buck.....[/QUOTE]
How do you know games that the iPad offers would never be on the Vita. I'm pretty sure the Vita is capable of running anything the iPad can. There are some good mobile games but they are nothing compared to actual games. I could only play most mobile games in small dosages to waste a little time in line or in the bathroom etc. Another thing is that a 5 inch screen is pretty big and much more portable than the iPad. I'm looking forward to play on the OLED screen also because the OLED on my Zune HD is awesome.
Why would you say Vita games would cost $50+ when the Uncharted is the only one priced at $50 and there are some games launching at $30 and most at $40
BTW Did you get the 32GB version of the iPad? Did it make you upset that you had to pay $100 more just for 16GB upgrade?
gettinmoney662
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[quote name='MSI Magus']Two problems with this logic.
1. Ipads offer a lot of games the vita doesnt and most likely never will. I have dozens of board games on my ipad...so far on PSN iv seen maybe 5 or 6 go up if that. And on the Vita id have to play on a smaller screen.
2. The bigger issue is that IOS offers cheap and even free games. I download about 3-10 games a day on my ipad, most are free and the rest cost me $1-5. A Vita game will cost $50+ and even if you go with downloadable games most are still in the $10-$15 range. Vita wont even begin to compete in the pricing arena when you factor in game cost. And dont tell me that Ipad games are junk, anyone that says this has not experienced what the system offers. Yes 90% of whats on the market is junk but so is 90% of what is released for other consoles/handhelds. Its just that with the more mainstream gaming system games get hyped so you hear about them.
BTW yes not everyone wants the 32gb mem card, but anyone that wants to play PSN games will. I mean honestly 32gb is a drop in the buck.....[/QUOTE]
I will take Uncharted over 50 $0.99 iPad games any day of the week. And I have an iPad.
1. Ipads offer a lot of games the vita doesnt and most likely never will. I have dozens of board games on my ipad...so far on PSN iv seen maybe 5 or 6 go up if that. And on the Vita id have to play on a smaller screen.
2. The bigger issue is that IOS offers cheap and even free games. I download about 3-10 games a day on my ipad, most are free and the rest cost me $1-5. A Vita game will cost $50+ and even if you go with downloadable games most are still in the $10-$15 range. Vita wont even begin to compete in the pricing arena when you factor in game cost. And dont tell me that Ipad games are junk, anyone that says this has not experienced what the system offers. Yes 90% of whats on the market is junk but so is 90% of what is released for other consoles/handhelds. Its just that with the more mainstream gaming system games get hyped so you hear about them.
BTW yes not everyone wants the 32gb mem card, but anyone that wants to play PSN games will. I mean honestly 32gb is a drop in the buck.....[/QUOTE]
I will take Uncharted over 50 $0.99 iPad games any day of the week. And I have an iPad.
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I'm a little surprised by people's hesitance based on performance in Japan. The only thing we can take from it is possible lackluster performance due to the economy. The US (and other regions) have a different set of games they like, different sized hands and many other factors. Consoles that have done well here have flopped in Japan (xbox) while consoles that have done well in Japan are virtually unknown here (PC-Engine/ Turbo Grafx).
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[quote name='Anexanhume']I'm a little surprised by people's hesitance based on performance in Japan. The only thing we can take from it is possible lackluster performance due to the economy. The US (and other regions) have a different set of games they like, different sized hands and many other factors. Consoles that have done well here have flopped in Japan (xbox) while consoles that have done well in Japan are virtually unknown here (PC-Engine/ Turbo Grafx).[/QUOTE]
I'd agree with you, but I play almost no Western games on handhelds. I think on the PSP and DS, I played God of War: Ghost of Sparta.
I've not even played Uncharted, so I'm not exactly jumping up and down at Golden Abyss. In fact, it's not even in my radar.
Yea, there are great Western console games, and I'll leave it at that.
Edit: I forgot about Puzzle Quest and M&M: Clash of Heroes.
I'd agree with you, but I play almost no Western games on handhelds. I think on the PSP and DS, I played God of War: Ghost of Sparta.
I've not even played Uncharted, so I'm not exactly jumping up and down at Golden Abyss. In fact, it's not even in my radar.
Yea, there are great Western console games, and I'll leave it at that.
Edit: I forgot about Puzzle Quest and M&M: Clash of Heroes.
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[quote name='MSI Magus']*wonders if when the Vita comes out in the US Sony fans will still be trying to blame poor sales on a lack of Monster Hunter or some other silly reason vs accepting in a bad economy a $250 system with a $100 memory card is insane*[/QUOTE]
Rather than actually trying to start a discussion, you just try to start shit with people?
Rather than actually trying to start a discussion, you just try to start shit with people?
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