The Randy "The Ram" Robinson Wrestling Thread

[quote name='BustaUppa']Maybe Orton was going out of his way to not actually hit a McMahon, in light of his kayfabe legal issues? That could somewhat redeem that weird segment, if they play the angle up that way. I don't really remember the segment well enough to know if such a spin would be plausible, but it would at least make Orton look less silly.

meanwhile... WTF?

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What's the sound of a Red Alert? WOOOO!

Shane's punches looked weak as hell, like some didn't even connect when he was on the ramp. His ability to fight off all of Legacy was just plain ridiculous.


WWE has retired the One Night Stand PPV name. Their June PPV, on June 17th this year, will now be called Extreme Rules. WWE is trying to move back to a PG-TV rating for all their programming which is why the One Night Stand name is being dropped.

Minor spoiler on the Matt/Jeff feud. The spoiler makes no sense considering the talent exchange deal:

The Matt Hardy/Jeff Hardy storyline won't continue on ECW tonight. On the show, Teddy Long states that Matt Hardy requested his release from ECW so that he could go to Smackdown, and that the release has been granted. So the feud will be taking place on Smackdown.

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So who does ECW have that's a face who can challenge Jack Swagger? Finlay? Dreamer has been getting shots at house shows and will obviously get one on TV at some point due to the current angel they're running, but those 2 are the only face challengers Swagger has. All the other decent ECW guys are heels.
 
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ECW spoiler for tonight:
At the ECW taping, the story throughout the show was that Jack Swagger's title belt was stolen. At the end it was revealed that Hornswoggle stole it and when Swagger shoved him, Finlay knocked Swagger out.

Also, I think the talent exchange was ended with Smackdown so Raw/ECW could have one, mostly since they're now traveling together.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']
So who does ECW have that's a face who can challenge Jack Swagger? Finlay? Dreamer has been getting shots at house shows and will obviously get one on TV at some point due to the current angel they're running, but those 2 are the only face challengers Swagger has. All the other decent ECW guys are heels.[/quote]

You're forgetting the one and only D.J. Gabriel!

Shane looked winded about 30 seconds into that "brawl" last night. I thought he was about to be the one on the floor from exhaustion.
 
Haha, I remember when the "One Night Stand" action figure series was simply referred to as "ECW PPV."

Although the best kid-friendly version of a WWE product ever was Jeff Jarrett's figure wearing a "Don't Make Me Mad" shirt.
 
Like everyone else, I loled at the ending of RAW.

My fiancee was there as I switched off the end of Man vs. Wild only to see Stephanie McMahon reveal her secret weapon. fucking weak. Plus I had just tried to convince the lady that Orton was actually a good wrestler and I was a fan. Not only did everyone on RAW look stupid, I looked stupid.

I'll be skipping ECW tonight. Based on the spoilers I'd only look stupider if I continued to abuse myself.
 
[quote name='BustaUppa']Jeff Jarrett's figure wearing a "Don't Make Me Mad" shirt.[/QUOTE]

I totally remember that one. Hilarious at the time, hilarious still.

"BA Billy Gunn" and "B. Mahoney" were two names I recall on action figures as well.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
"BA Billy Gunn" and "B. Mahoney" were two names I recall on action figures as well.[/quote]

Still got my BA figure around here somewhere. I should look through some and see what other stuff was changed, since I've got a few DX ones, I think. I know I've got a Jarrett but don't think it had a shirt.

So got a WWE email touting the new DVD releases, and this cover still boggles my mind.
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Where the fuck did Bagwell come from?!?

The actual explanation would be that he has at one match on the disc (it also has Vince Russo vs Booker T in a cage, for fuck's sake)- that's seriously the best person they could come up with to put on the cover?
 
I don't think I was a fan of Buff Bagwell (... I thought he was alright), but I believe that he could have been a top guy.
 
Bagwell is in reference to the "Heatseekers" episode, and, presumably, centers around his backstage renown for being the most hated man amongst the wrestlers.
 
Jericho-Rourke just got built up on Larry King Live, with Jericho coming on towards the end of the show and praising the film for accurately portraying the minor leagues of wrestling (seemingly giving Chris Irvine's view on it), while saying that there's a big difference between playing a wrestler in a movie and being one in real life (certainly "Chris Jericho" just saying something for a Raw highlight reel).
 
Raw's ending was one of the stupidest endings I have ever seen. It made the actual wrestlers look like a bitch and made Shane look like Superman...if only he could connect a punch. I swear the camera guys need to hit up different angles to make this shit look real. It was clearly obvious that Shane wasn't even hitting anyone. On the ramp right at the end, Shane's fist wasn't even close to Orton's and the camera caught everything. So fucking lame.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Bagwell is in reference to the "Heatseekers" episode, and, presumably, centers around his backstage renown for being the most hated man amongst the wrestlers.[/QUOTE]

I could believe that, he's a Mama's boy and IIRC, his mom was often times backstage pampering him. I really wanna get that DVD set now.

[quote name='Brak']I don't think I was a fan of Buff Bagwell (... I thought he was alright), but I believe that he could have been a top guy.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't a big fan of him, but I always liked him as a midcard talent. He certainly succeeded as the upper-card jobber.

[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Jericho-Rourke just got built up on Larry King Live, with Jericho coming on towards the end of the show and praising the film for accurately portraying the minor leagues of wrestling (seemingly giving Chris Irvine's view on it), while saying that there's a big difference between playing a wrestler in a movie and being one in real life (certainly "Chris Jericho" just saying something for a Raw highlight reel).[/QUOTE]

Neat. I love it when feuds spill over into the real life. Makes it feel "realer" in a sense.
 
My professor was talking about the end of Raw yesterday in class because we are doing projects and one group has to do the WWE....

I couldn't defend that stuff....and it was horribly confusing!

I never understood how a middle-aged man could whoop 3 young men in their 20's!!!!!! Like how Ric Flair would clear the ring just last year
 
At least Ric Flair has decades of experience on his side that a viewer can sort of believe in. Shane has nothing going for him besides prematurely grey hair and a paunch.
 
Ricky Steamboat is getting into the Hall Of Fame this year.

What's ridiculous is that Austin requested Ric Flair to induct him into the HOF instead of Jim Ross, and the WWE said no (supposedly opting to go with Vince doing the induction). Guess who's inducting Steamboat?

Yup. Good ol' Naitch.
 
[quote name='Halo05']At least Ric Flair has decades of experience on his side that a viewer can sort of believe in. Shane has nothing going for him besides prematurely grey hair and a paunch.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention the ability to dance. :lol:
 
[quote name='JJSP']Ricky Steamboat is getting into the Hall Of Fame this year.

What's ridiculous is that Austin requested Ric Flair to induct him into the HOF instead of Jim Ross, and the WWE said no (supposedly opting to go with Vince doing the induction). Guess who's inducting Steamboat?

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That's just Vince's ridiculous way of letting everyone know that Vince is the reason for Stone Cold's success.
 
Vince inducting "Stone Cold" makes sense, as he was his greatest rival. Plus, I'd rather see Flair induct Steamboat, and no one in WWE fits the bill to induct the Cowboy except J.R.

Also, I just had an awesome DoR 2 match - it was Jeff Hardy vs. Austin vs. Batista vs. Benoit, and the highlights were Jeff hitting a swanton on Batista from the top rope, then Austin stunning Benoit on top of Jeff upon the swanton landing, a part where Batista countered a stunner by pushing Austin into Jeff, who hit a Twist of Fate, and then the awesome finish, where Benoit schoolboy cradled Austin for a 1 while Jeff covered Batista after a Twist of Fate, and the ref counted 2-3 quickly and oddly counted Benoit's 1 count as part of Jeff's pin. I haven't had that happen before, but the whole match was a reminder of just why I love the game - you never know just what kind of awesome stuff's gonna happen during a match.
 
So the word is the WWE *had* planned to make Christian the one who cost Jeff Hardy the championship.

Why was it Matt? Because Christian was too obvious.

WWE taking pages out of Russo's Cookbook: Recipe for disaster.

Side note: Steamboat in the Hall of Fame... am I the only one who NEVER GOT the appeal in him? He was a smiley good two shoes babyface who threw a lot of armdrags. I always thought he was boring.
 
[quote name='Survivor Charlie']Side note: Steamboat in the Hall of Fame... am I the only one who NEVER GOT the appeal in him? He was a smiley good two shoes babyface who threw a lot of armdrags. I always thought he was boring.[/quote]

This was before the days of badass tweeners/anti-heroes. That sort of character got over with the crowd. I'm sure if he were around in this day and age, he have gotten the Rocky Maivia treatment.
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']This was before the days of badass tweeners/anti-heroes. That sort of character got over with the crowd. I'm sure if he were around in this day and age, he have gotten the Rocky Maivia treatment.[/QUOTE]

It's not the attitude, it's the style. Here's a Ricky Steamboat match.

Armdrag, armbar. Hold for a couple minutes. Heel tries to comeback, fails, armdrag, armbar. Hold for a couple minutes. Heel tries to come back, fails, armdrag, armbar. Heel cheats, Steamboat goes on the defensive for a bit, makes comeback, crossbody for the pin.
 
Hmm. Maybe they could convince The Rock to come and defend Hollywood's ire?

Man alive, he's be so perfect in Hollywood Hogan's role right now.
 
Then bring back Hogan, and have them do the exact same thing they did for their Wrestlemania match before, but with the roles reversed?
 
Wrestling had anti-heroes back in Steamboat's day - both the Crusher and Dick the Bruiser had Austin-esque anti-hero roles and drew well both before Steamboat broke in and after he was an established name.

I'm kind of glad Rourke pulled out, as there was talk of his participation in 'Mania costing him the Oscar due to the stigma attached to wrestling by the voters. It would be seen as a huge step down for him. Showbiz Tonight covered him pulling out of the show tonight and said that it could just be part of the storyline, and they also called Jericho the World Heavyweight Champion numerous times, which got a laugh out of me...until I was saddened to see the state of the world title now.

WWE The Music Volume 9 : Legends of WWE Bonus Disc -
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Does anyone else find it funny that Rourke will supposedly cost himself an Oscar by appearing at a wrestling event, when that's the very thing he's doing in the movie?

OMG you can't seriously be going to one of those! You can only play one on the big screen!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Hope y'all aren't Orton fans, then.[/QUOTE]

I'm not. At all. I don't think he's a good wrestler. I don't think he's particularly good on the stick. He shows no grasp of psychology or pacing.

And I also think he's likely an immature twatwaffle outside of wrestling. Hotels trashed, fans personal property destroyed, allegedly avoided suspension by acting suicidal... the guy strikes me as a spoiled fucking child.
 
[quote name='bornrunnin31']Does anyone else find it funny that Rourke will supposedly cost himself an Oscar by appearing at a wrestling event, when that's the very thing he's doing in the movie?

OMG you can't seriously be going to one of those! You can only play one on the big screen![/quote]Javier Bardem went on a killing spree in No Country For Old Men, I think if he went legit it would've fucked his chances as well.
 
[quote name='bornrunnin31']Does anyone else find it funny that Rourke will supposedly cost himself an Oscar by appearing at a wrestling event, when that's the very thing he's doing in the movie?

OMG you can't seriously be going to one of those! You can only play one on the big screen![/QUOTE]

ProWrestling.com is reporting that he has backed out.

http://www.prowrestling.com/article/news/11442
 
I'm guessing that'll be the last we'll hear it mentioned on TV and Vince will throw in a jab at the movie while he's inducting Austin into the Hall of Fame
 
[quote name='diddy310']I'm guessing that'll be the last we'll hear it mentioned on TV and Vince will throw in a jab at the movie while he's inducting Austin into the Hall of Fame[/QUOTE]

you're an idiot...

He's clearly going to create a parody character of Rourke played by Charlie Haas. Call him "The Wrassler." Totally bury him. That'll show 'em!

That's just how McMahon rolls.

That or Rourke really is going to do Wrestlemania but wait until after he has the Oscar to build the feud.
 
Although if it appears they aren't going to be able to negotiate with Rourke, I could see them still using the Larry King appearance to build Jericho saying that he ran him off. He could use a little boost after the begging 2 weeks ago. They could even segue it into another match with Michaels at WM as it feels like they have every intention of ending the HBK/JBL relationship by No Way Out.
 
They should work/shoot it. Have HBK take JBL out of the EC match (c'mon, you know he's getting in), JBL refuses to pay HBK any monies he's owed. And then you can have HBK doing $20 autographs and photos outside of arenas they perform at so he can get gas money to travel to the next town.

I don't know how many great bands I've seen circumstantially play over the years because they were traveling through the 'nati and stopped by to play an unannounced set at Sudsy Malone's because they needed gas money to get to Chicago/Indy. Same thing, man.

EDIT: At least *one* video of Michaels taking someone's money outside an arena, posing for a photo, being "caught" by a WWE camera, and going all bonkers on the cameraman. Paparazzi style.

Book it.
 
I could see Rourke pulling out FOR NOW until the Oscars are over, and then agreeing to do 'Mania after that point - there'd still be about a month to build it up, and as Mayweather-Show proved, a month of hot build is all ya really need for a big 'Mania buyrate.
 
You're going to credit Show/Mayweather with the WM buys?

whew. go right ahead.

EDIT: wait, the Raw EC so far is Cena, Kofi, Y2J, and Rey? They really need to put someone in there who looks like they might stand a chance to win the belt, hard as that may be when Cena's holding it.

Then again, maybe Rourke's pulling out was mutually agreed upon since it made the only mildly-plausible guy in that match so far, Jericho, be a guaranteed non-winner in the match. Even moreso than Kofi fucking Kingston. (assuming that Rourke is only stepping aside temporarily to protect his oscar chances; which may be the case, since WWE still has the Larry King video front and center on their website).
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Then again, maybe Rourke's pulling out was mutually agreed upon since it made the only mildly-plausible guy in that match so far, Jericho, be a guaranteed non-winner in the match. Even moreso than Kofi fucking Kingston. (assuming that Rourke is only stepping aside temporarily to protect his oscar chances; which may be the case, since WWE still has the Larry King video front and center on their website).[/QUOTE]Heh good point... actually the first thing I thought when Jericho won his match was "well, you KNOW Mickey Rourke won't be fighting for the title at Wrestlemania, so..."
 
They could always have a legacy member get in as a way to try to hurt Cena before WM, or even have Orton sneak into the chamber after one of the last eliminations when they open the door to let someone out. Have (i'm going to say Dibiase) win it after an extended beat down, only to lose it or have it be stripped the next night. It would certainly tie together the Orton/Steph feud with Orton/Cena.
 
She'll get on the Michelle McCool diet or get shitcanned before WM.

How long has she had those oh-so-classy-and-unique stars on her back?

EDIT: Alternately, it appears that too much lovin' does not, contrary to the previous argument, never hurt nobody.
 
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