The "Rated R Superstar" Edge's Wrestling Thread

He frequently speaks, the problem is that he isn't very good on the mic, and his soft-spoken voice makes it hard to take him seriously as a physical threat, which is why they're being smart in booking him to do impressive things and not cut incredible promos.
 
That, and he's pretty shitty as far as actual ring work.

Okay, so shitty is an exaggeration, but he's just not main event worthy at this point.
 
[quote name='DJSteel']i feel like they are promoting Lashley pretty good..but the guy has 0 personality and never speaks..[/quote] He reminds me of Wayne Brady, with a physique.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']James Caldwell over at the Torch reports that Christian Cage has signed a new multi year deal with TNA. No details outside of that is known.[/quote]

Ain't that a bitch! I always pictured him returning to WWE at some point to feud with Edge (as a crazy baby face) for the title. Oh well, that dream shall be postponed a bit.
 
I am watching this WEW wrestling (some women's promotion) on Fox Sports and it is the funniest shit ever. No one is in the crowd and the women are so campy. I wish I had a DVR because I would record it every week just because of how bad it is.
 
I just have to say that TNA is on the ball with the Steiners & Team 3D with the best team in recent history battling the team that some would call the greatest of all time title wise. I hope the Steiners win so that they can still be the only team to hold titles in all of the major wrestling organizations.
 
One thing I loved about Scott bashing the ECW World Tag titles is that the line worked well on its own, but worked even better if you knew that the Steiners had wrestled in ECW - then what he said could also be interpreted as him saying that only only were they not world titles, but that the belts were so un-important that the Steiners didn't even want them when they could have had them. TNA has been on a roll since Sacrifice, and actually had the best wrestling program of the week in Impact. I hope they can continue that, and nix some of the over-the-top stuff (like Tenay and West talking over EVERYTHING, and Tenay's wacky facial expressions).
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']One thing I loved about Scott bashing the ECW World Tag titles is that the line worked well on its own, but worked even better if you knew that the Steiners had wrestled in ECW - then what he said could also be interpreted as him saying that only only were they not world titles, but that the belts were so un-important that the Steiners didn't even want them when they could have had them. TNA has been on a roll since Sacrifice, and actually had the best wrestling program of the week in Impact. I hope they can continue that, and nix some of the over-the-top stuff (like Tenay and West talking over EVERYTHING, and Tenay's wacky facial expressions).[/QUOTE]

That was kind of funny how he made mention of that so much in his speech but what's more funny is the fact that the Dudleys have actually wrestled around the world just like the Steiners.
 
[quote name='Iron Clad Burrito']He reminds me of Wayne Brady, with a physique.[/quote]


atleast brady is funny
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[quote name='CaseyRyback']I am watching this WEW wrestling (some women's promotion) on Fox Sports and it is the funniest shit ever. No one is in the crowd and the women are so campy. I wish I had a DVR because I would record it every week just because of how bad it is.[/QUOTE]

Does that have "GI Ho" in it? When I would watch MLW they would promote the hell out of it; I never got the impression that it was appropriate for TV, however.
 
Gutsiest performance of the Year: Jimmy Jacobs.

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I just watched the Supercard of Honor 2 and Jimmy Jacobs is a God. With a torn ACL (ala Triple H), he climbed the top of the cage TWICE, including a back seton from the top of the cage where, with the torn ACL, he stood straight up on the cage. Compared to Triple H who basically collapsed to the floor and sloppily finished his matches both time and then got carried backstage (no offense to him), for Jacobs to not only climb up the cage twice, but then walk backstage on his own was a freaking insane indicator of his toughness.

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The match itself was pretty slow paced, but Jacobs carried it brilliantly, including hooking the baseball bat into his hair and walking around with the bat hanging from his hair to show how sharp it was and licking the blood off Whitmer's face and spitting it back in his face. When he comes back later this year, he is going to be over HUGE and I can't wait to see how this plays out with Lacey.

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Dud above looks like Brian Pillman...

[quote name='CaseyRyback']I am watching this WEW wrestling (some women's promotion) on Fox Sports and it is the funniest shit ever. No one is in the crowd and the women are so campy. I wish I had a DVR because I would record it every week just because of how bad it is.[/quote]

If that is Women's Extreme Wrestling you are talking about, I bought two of their DVDs from briansraregames on CAG. The only saving grace is a young Alexis Laree (aka Mickie James) is in it.
 
I just found out about this so sorry if you guys know but a 3 DVD set of all Ladder Matches will be released on June 5th. Here is the Run down of matches accoring to the ROH store :
http://www.rohwrestling.com/shoponline.asp?point=moreinfo&catid=209&id=2282

Disc 1

Ladder Match For North American Title & Cash Money
Jake Roberts v. Big Daddy Ritter - Stampede Wrestling, 7/79

Ladder Match for the IC Title
Bret Hart v. HBK - 7/21/92

Ladder Match for the IC Title
HBK v. Razor Ramon - Summerslam 8/27/95

Ladder Match for the IC Title
Triple H v. The Rock - Summerslam, 8/30/98

Terri Invitational Ladder Match
Edge & Christian v. New Brood (The Hardy Boyz) - No Mercy, 10/17/99

1st Ever TLC Match for the World Tag Team Titles
Dudleys v. Edge & Christian v. Hardy Boyz - Summerslam,8/27/00

Ladder Match for a contract for the WCW Cruiserweight Title
3 Count v. Jung Dragons v. Jamie Knoble & Evan Karagias - Starrcade,12/17/00

Ladder Match for the IC Title
Chris Benoit v. Chris Jericho - Royal Rumble,1/21/01

Disc 2

TLC 2 for the World Tag Team Titles
Dudleys v. Edge & Christian v. Hardy Boyz - WrestleMania 17, 4/1/01

Fatal 4-way TLC for the World Tag Team Titles
Dudleys v. Edge & Christian v. Hardy Boyz v. Jericho & Benoit - Smackdown, 5/24/01

Ladder Match for the IC Title
Edge v. Christian - No Mercy,10/21/01

Ladder Match for the IC Title
Eddie Guerrero v. Rob Van Dam - Raw,5/27/02

Ladder Match for the Undisputed WWE Championship
Undertaker v. Jeff Hardy - Raw, 7/1/02

TLC for the World Tag Team Titles
Kane & Hurricane v. RVD & Jeff Hardy v. Bubba Ray & Spike Dudley v. Jericho & Christian - Raw,10/7/02

Ladder Match for the IC Title
Chris Jericho v. Christian - Unforgiven, 9/12/04

Disc 3

1st ever Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Benoit v. Jericho v. Edge v. Shelton Benjamin v. Christian v. Kane - WM 21, 4/3/05

Ladder Match for the custody of dominick
Eddie Guerrero v. Rey Mysterio - Summerslam,8/21/05

Loser Leaves Raw Ladder Match
Edge v. Matt Hardy - Raw,10/3/05

TLC for the WWE Championship
Edge v. Ric Flair - Raw,1/16/06

TLC for the WWE Championship
John Cena v. Edge - Unforgiven,9/17/06

Ladder Match for the IC Title
Jeff Hardy v. Johnny Nitro - Raw,11/20/06

Fatal 4-Way Ladder Match for the WWE Tag Team Titles
Paul London & Brian Kendrick v. MNM v. William Regal & Dave Taylor v. The Hardys - Armageddon,12/17/06

Lots of good stuff on this release.
 
Only three matches before 1998? That's a little lopsided, don't you think? Of course, ladder matches are far more common these days. I don't think that means that so many matches should be overlooked.

That said, this is (I think) the first DVD inclusion of the Triple H/Rock IC title match from Summerslam. Those two put on some excellent, excellent matches in 1998, and this was the best of the bunch, IMO. The IC title feud b/w HHH and The Rock was so overshadowed by the Austin stuff at the time that few people ever mention what a great feud that was. Someone should notify Triple H that his feuds are much better when it seems his opponents actually had a chance of beating him.

As for Jimmy Jacobs, I like him just fine (and good call on Pillman, as he very much does look like him in that photo). However, there aren't many wrestlers on this planet who I'd tell to go to a gym and put some weight on. Jacobs is one of those guys. He looks like he weighs 135 pounds.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Someone should notify Triple H that his feuds are much better when it seems his opponents actually had a chance of beating him.[/QUOTE]
Like Booker T.?

/facetious
 
I still get bent out of shape over the 45 minutes it took for Triple H to cover Booker in their WMXIX title match after hitting him with the pedigree. It was a moment that perfectly exhibited the politics in the WWE locker room, because no other wrestler, under any circumstances, would have stayed down for that long and taken the pinfall. Even at Wrestlefuckingmania, man, which is the perfect time for kicking out of finishers, and is done frequently.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']

As for Jimmy Jacobs, I like him just fine (and good call on Pillman, as he very much does look like him in that photo). However, there aren't many wrestlers on this planet who I'd tell to go to a gym and put some weight on. Jacobs is one of those guys. He looks like he weighs 135 pounds.[/QUOTE]

He doesn't look that bad to me... Kind of a slightly smaller CM Punk (build wise).
 
No way. I'm not saying he's out of shape, I'm merely saying he has no size to him. While I don't subscribe to the Vince McMahon WBF mentality that all wrestlers should be 6'3" and 270lbs; what I will say is that they should look like they are able to beat somebody, *anybody*, up. Jimmy Jacobs is not that person.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']No way. I'm not saying he's out of shape, I'm merely saying he has no size to him. While I don't subscribe to the Vince McMahon WBF mentality that all wrestlers should be 6'3" and 270lbs; what I will say is that they should look like they are able to beat somebody, *anybody*, up. Jimmy Jacobs is not that person.[/quote]

In the match, he looked every bit as able to take out a bigger guy than him as Shawn Michaels against Diesel/Sid/Undertaker.
 
On the Ladder Match DVD, it's a shame they left off the match from Raw in 2003 between RVD and Christian. It was so much better than the Jericho/Christian match from Judgment Day '04.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']On the Ladder Match DVD, it's a shame they left off the match from Raw in 2003 between RVD and Christian. [/quote]
Wasn't that the one where he had Christian pinned under the ladder while grabbing the title at the end of the match?
 
That ladder match dvd looks like a pretty nice set. Lots of matches that haven't appeared on other dvds yet... save for the RVD/Guerrero and specific ppv ones.

I'd like to see a Starrcade dvd set some day. You'd think Vince would try to make more money off his WCW library.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Everybody is on every show now, making a "draft" moot, don't you think?[/QUOTE]

Yet Vince is still sticking to the idea of brand splits, especially in regards to the titles.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']The TV schedule on the USA website is advertising the 6/11 Raw "Raw Presents: the WWE Draft Special".[/quote]

Myke, yeah, that's pretty much true.

As for the quote above, this is the 3 hour special that is also being dubbed as "the Night of Champions". Which I'm wondering how they're going to fit 9 title matches on a three hour event. They can't even get 9 matches most of the time for their PPVs.
 
I don't think it was ever said that all the championships were to be defended. It was supposed to be that every match was a championship match. I could be wrong.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Maybe Cena can go to TNA...[/QUOTE]

I'd love to see Cena show up in TNA.... I'm dead serious. Dead fucking serious.

Only to see how badly he'd get BOOED out of the Impact Zone by those fucking annoying seals in the crowd.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']I'd love to see Cena show up in TNA.... I'm dead serious. Dead fucking serious.

Only to see how badly he'd get BOOED out of the Impact Zone by those fucking annoying seals in the crowd.
[/quote]

And much like when Scott Steiner came back last year, have the fans chant "You Still Suck".
 
Wrestling Observer Live update on the draft - Benoit has been talked about moving to Raw, with ECW being a possiblity as well. Regal and Rey are being talked about as being moved to Raw, with Regal-HHH being a possible feud for him. Lashley and Kennedy might be moved to Raw, but the Edge feud might keep him on SD for the time being.

Observer Live stuff about Jeff Jarrett - Jeff was one of Owen's top friends when Owen passed away, and he was well-aware of her passing being on the same day as Owen's. Dave said that as a husband with a young child, he isn't sure if he himself could deal with his wife having an 8-year battle with cancer. He then praised Jeff for not only staying by her side, but trying to build a company at the same time. He also added that it isn't believed that Jeff will be at the tapings on Monday.

Someone e-mailed them about Jericho coming back to WWE, and Dave stated that Jericho has more bargaining power than ever before due to the injuries, and they've wanted him back for a long time. If it's at all possible, they want him back for Summerslam.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Wrestling Observer Live update on the draft - Benoit has been talked about moving to Raw, with ECW being a possiblity as well. Regal and Rey are being talked about as being moved to Raw, with Regal-HHH being a possible feud for him. Lashley and Kennedy might be moved to Raw, but the Edge feud might keep him on SD for the time being.[/quote]

So every decent wrestler on Smackdown would be going to Raw. Any word on who might be going to Smackdown?
 
They'll never pull the trigger on a Regal/HHH feud. What a load of shit.

Regal earned his spot in the company working the legendary Pillman memorial match in 1999 against Benoit. Back then, everyone knew what a great wrestler he was, and what a solid match he could put on. In 8 years, he's rarely given the opportunity to do that. I don't see why they'd suddenly push a solid wrestler as, well...a solid wrestler.

Besides, Triple H in a feud not over the title = totally untrue. Duh.

The other rumored moves are pretty underwhelming. Lashley is already on Raw every Monday (and, likewise, wasn't even on ECW this week, I don't think), Edge is all over each show. Rey coming back would be a surprise.

Ultimately, it's totally moot, since the brand extension is dead except in name. Though one place it would make something work is if they consolidated the tag team titles on one show and put all the teams there. Londrick vs. Hardys, or Deuce and Domino vs. The Hillbillies (Cade/Murdoch or the other ones), and so on and so forth. They have a deep tag division, but it looks thin because they're split on two shows, and because so little time is spent pushing them (and often squashing them), that when a good feud is written and developed (Hardys/Cade & Murdoch), the fans shit on it because one of the teams have been stamped "ETERNAL JOBBERS."
 
The brand extension isn't completely dead - they still have different house show rosters. On TV though, the brand extension has been weakened a great deal by having people switch shows on a dime, but they can rebuild it easily just by keeping guys locked on the roster with only a few exceptions.

I can see HHH-Regal happening, but not right after Hunter comes back, and not for an extended period of time. I see it being like his Big Show feud - it would be something that gives Hunter something to do, and could elevate a talent at the same time. HHH hasn't been in the title picture much over the past two years, so I doubt it not involving the title would hurt the chances of it happening.
 
Actually I think part of the reason Regal had a job was because he is such good friends with Steve Austin.

Regal is a hell of a worker though, and really never got the push he deserved. Regal would've been a good guy to have hold the US/IC title, but that may never happen. Regal and MVP could probably put on some good matches...
 
I'll second you on that. Regal to me has always been underused and underpushed. The WWE really needs to get him involved in an title hunt and soon. Especially given the number of injuries as of lately I feel that William Regal is a perfect candidate to be going after at least the US or IC title.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']The brand extension isn't completely dead - they still have different house show rosters. On TV though, the brand extension has been weakened a great deal by having people switch shows on a dime, but they can rebuild it easily just by keeping guys locked on the roster with only a few exceptions.

I can see HHH-Regal happening, but not right after Hunter comes back, and not for an extended period of time. I see it being like his Big Show feud - it would be something that gives Hunter something to do, and could elevate a talent at the same time. HHH hasn't been in the title picture much over the past two years, so I doubt it not involving the title would hurt the chances of it happening.[/QUOTE]

Yea but every time he comes back it feels like he is in the title picture. I would rather watch 2 hours of Cena overcoming the odds over HHH running with the belt.

Then again I am sure most of you know that I despise HHH due to his blandness both in the ring and on the mic.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Everybody is on every show now, making a "draft" moot, don't you think?[/QUOTE]

I know what you mean. The feud over the ECW title has been fought over more on Raw than on ECW's own show. Smackdown's Money in the bank winner lost his briefcase on Raw. The new World Champion says goodbye and does a clean job on Raw. Why bother with the brand split at all. I like the positives (guys that normally don't have a prayer, and I'm pointing at London and Kendrick here, get TV time ect.), but now with people showing up on both brands all the time (Matt Hardy), why should we care about a draft? Espically when most, if not all matches will be over shadowed by something that really won't matter the next week?
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Regal is a hell of a worker though, and really never got the push he deserved. Regal would've been a good guy to have hold the US/IC title, but that may never happen. Regal and MVP could probably put on some good matches...[/quote]

Regal did have the IC belt back in 2002, but he only had it for a couple months.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Wrestling Observer Live update on the draft - Benoit has been talked about moving to Raw, with ECW being a possiblity as well. Regal and Rey are being talked about as being moved to Raw, with Regal-HHH being a possible feud for him. Lashley and Kennedy might be moved to Raw, but the Edge feud might keep him on SD for the time being.
.[/QUOTE]

Benoit on ECW would be a fucking slap in the face to the man - I hope they consider Raw for him, if they are going to move him at all.

When is this draft even happening? Tonight?

But I have a strong feeling they are moving more people over to Raw just to have Cena crush them. I was about to right "Yea, Rey could go for the title again!" but Cena will crush him big time. Benoit? Same deal. Lashley? Crushed.

The draft reads more like "More people for Cena to beat so Triple H's win looks even more awesome since Cena beat so many people"... I wonder if they are going for the "Nobody can take the belt away from John Cena" angle just to make Triple H's win even better?
 
At this point I'm begging for Triple H to return already just so he can take the belt away from Cena. Then again we'll be going back to every RAW starting with the same 20 minute "I AM TRIPLE I AM THE GAME I CAN BEAT YOU ALL" crapfest.

Maybe this "draft" will at least bring CM Punk to Smackdown. Then I can skip WWECW all together.
 
Ya know, as long as Benoit was the ECW champion, I wouldn't mind seeing him over there. He could perhaps get a Big Show push and be a credible champion for that brand. Benoit vs Punk could be good too. Unless Punk is moved in this "draft".

I'd also like to see Umaga go to SD, as I think he's gotten rather stale on Raw.

Booker T should go to Raw, to feud with Cena again, only now they're both main eventers. This makes sense, as Taker is out of the picture entirely, so the planned Taker/Booker feud is off the cards.

Rey moved to Raw, he's pretty much the only guy who hasn't jumped shows yet, so why not put him on Raw and see what happens.

Some combination of Masters, Johnny Nitro, Kenny and Carlito on SD. These guys need a chance to move up the card and they'll never get that on Raw, especially when Triple H comes back to be the top heel.

Lashley could probably be moved officially over to Raw, but he already wrestles on Raw more than ECW, so does it even matter?

Finally, Cryme Tyme to ECW, because according to Vince McMahon black people=extreme :roll:
 
Masters not being higher on the card has absolutely nothing to do with HHH. At all. The dude still needs a lot of work, and Carlito needs heat if he's going to once again be a main eventer in WWE. Nitro... needs a miracle. Possibly many of them, to get back to being a main eventer.
 
[quote name='Observer Newsletter']If you haven’t noticed recently, WWE has banned the shooting star press and the 450 press. Paul London did a shooting star plancha at a recent show and was told by McMahon if he tried it again, he would fire him on the spot. [/quote]

FIRE HIM! I DARE YA!

:rofl: :rofl: Wonder why it is that you take a 160 pound skinny boy like London, eliminate his moveset, and then never get over the way the Hardy Boyz did? Why it is that you were tag champions almost as long as Demolition, yet Steve Austin never heard of you?

:rofl: :rofl:
 
So let me get this straight... its okay for Trevor Murdoch to botch the Canadian Destroyer yet Paul London doing an Shooting Star Plancha is not okay????

I don't get it.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']So let me get this straight... its okay for Trevor Murdoch to botch the Canadian Destroyer yet Paul London doing an Shooting Star Plancha is not okay????

I don't get it.[/QUOTE]
It's because McMahon likes Rock'em Stock'em Robots-esque "wrestling matches".

Replace "Red Robot" with "Face" and "Blue Robot" with "Heel".
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Masters not being higher on the card has absolutely nothing to do with HHH. At all. The dude still needs a lot of work, and Carlito needs heat if he's going to once again be a main eventer in WWE. Nitro... needs a miracle. Possibly many of them, to get back to being a main eventer.[/quote]

Actually those wrestling dirt sites reported that both Triple H and HBK thought Masters was a joke and that was indeed part of the reason why he wasn't getting pushed anymore. Remember that backstage segment where Masters was talking about writing a book and HHH suggested he call it "How to lose 40 pounds in a month" or something like that. That segment was supposedly the H's idea. Masters does need some in-ring work, but he can work the mic better than most of the current roster.

Nitro seems to have taken all the brunt of the backstage hostility towards Melina. It's like he's her whipping boy. If the guy cares anything about his career he probably needs to part ways with her. He has poor mic skills, but the guy can wrestle. By far the best thing to come out of Tough Enough... of course that might not be saying much.
 
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