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The difference between the two companies is TNA listens to the fans, and I think a lot of that has to do with Lagana coming in. WWE is not going to change anytime soon. It doesn't matter what wrestlers they sign, they are all going to have the same robotic promos and same old basic wrestling matches. I've always thought TNA's in ring product has been waaay better than WWE. A lot of it has to do with I think they let the wrestlers have freedom to do what they want. It cracks me up when I read a PWTorch review of a WWE PPV and see matches get 4* with the same ol basic WWE match and then read one on a TNA PPV and see guys like AJ or Aries do a hell of a match and show us stuff never seen before and get 2 1/2 and 3* ratings.
 
There was some crap during last night's Impact, but the wrestling was on-point. The first match on the card was longer than all of the matches from the first out of the week's RAW combined, and while it had a goofy premise and setup, it had a genuinely shocking moment at the end. I certainly didn't see that coming.
 
We now live in the age of knowing, and saying out loud that Hulk Hogan is a better GM than.... Hornswaggle....

Gordon Solie must be rolling in his grave right about now.
 
Not to mention the whole preggo drug addict girl angle, which I see a nice twist coming too. I don't know if anyone else noticed but she was smoking a cig in her car when Jason Hervey was trying to do his tmz style interview with her.
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']There was some crap during last night's Impact[/QUOTE]

Brooke Hogan.

Yeah, I totally agree that neither show is perfect, but the BFG series has a good premise (getting behind any number of guys getting a PPV main event match, even if only some are clearly likely candidates - and perhaps it could be simplified as well). Aries is a guy fans can get behind, and he's not all that different from his arrogant heel persona (i.e., still using the "Greatest Man That Ever Lived" moniker.

I still think Bully Ray deserves the "steppin' the fuck up" award of the past 2 years or so, the X-Division has some solid names/talent (and they got good heat on Ion when he cut a promo on Jesse Sorenson for getting injured).

Angle/Anderson was a good match until Anderson totally no sold a 30-second ankle lock to hit his russian leg sweep, but that's borderline getting picky.

And Bobby Roode - fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. Man, he was amazing last night the way he reacted to Aries' promo. Brilliant. Someone already mentioned shades of Flair, and I totally agree with that. Obsessed with the title, utterly obsessed, in denial, and having no idea what to do or how to respond. He was great in his role, and reminded me of all the times Triple H never showed anywhere near enough ass/weakness as a heel during his run at the top of WWE (and why he will never be, to me, among the greats).

I am worried that TNA will tarnish Roode or Aries depending on how they book the next two matches between them. If Roode wins next week but loses at the PPV, it kinda hurts Aries. If Aries wins both, it kinda hurts Roode. If Roode get intentionally DQ'd next week (preferring to not lose via pinfall), then they can safely go into the PPV.
 
You guys are making me want to start watching Impact again. They come to Raleigh for a taping in September, if they keep it up I might have to go, especially since it is at the end of the month and they will be building towards BFG.
 
Needed more footage of A.J. on her knees.

I'm surprised this wasn't an A.J. appreciation thread, something along the lines of "A Diva is the best thing on Raw. U Mad?".

I thought Impact was okay, but why didn't they show the first beatdown with Sting? All he did was talk about busting heads with Hogan on his side. Even the commentators didn't talk about it. I also thought it was funny how Hogan is all bloody in the face and complains more about his leg.
 
I liked thrill Murray before.. But he just used the Snatcher investigation music.. He's shot up to legendary status now for me.
 
No doubt that the guys who make regular public appearances have been routinely coached on how to handle that subject when it is inevitably brought up. Punk's version of it was a perfectly reasonable response.
 
Punk handled that question like a true professional. Instead of saying "No Comment" or something along the lines of trying to avoid the question, he gives a straight up no nonsense answer. Kudos to him on that. Really impressive in my eyes.
 
fucktarded move to ask a Benoit question, but Punk gave the straightforward, professional response. Thankfully the guy drops it without much of a fight.
 
Punk owned the guy with that YouTube snipe. But Punk is absolutely dead right, whether that's his own personal feeling or the company line. That fan is an absolute toolbag though for asking that question to a panel of Punk/Sheamus/Zack Ryder, as if they control the WWE product or something.
 
HA!

WWE has raised their house show ticket prices to as high as $95 in some markets. (PWI) JESUS, REALLY? With the product they're putting on right now? I wouldn't even pay $45 for a PPV with the crap they do in 2012, let alone $95 for a FREAKING HOUSE SHOW.
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WWE's got some gal to jack up their prices. After the shitshow they put on Monday, you couldn't pay me to attend any WWE shows, live or not.
 
Thanks for posting the entire panel. I posted them in three parts but part one froze. I guess no one saw it because no one commented on the Benoit question. He did handle it well.

House shows are actually infinitely more fun than televised events (but I still wouldn't pay $95 for a ticket, they're out of their mind.. what was their tagline? "The cheapest form of sports entertainment" or something to that effect?).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY1MvRIebV8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYDLgjJmFSc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrdUfwD2swo
 
Apparently Charlie Sheen quit Twitter before the 1000th Raw. Vince was asked to comment on the situation:

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I really need to get more sleep and read previous pages before posting. Dear lord.

Punk definitely handled that correctly.
 
At around the 25:45 mark in that video, you can hear someone near the camera whispering about a Benoit question coming and it getting shut down real quick.
 
I think it's hilarious that fan thought that the WWE really blacked out Crispin Wah on the DVD. They can overdub any mention of his name on the commentary with some generic name taken from the WWE video games. "And now where's he going. THE SUPERSTAR just got kicked straight in the jaw."
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']The ComicCon WWE Mattel Panel. I'm only peosting this for one reason: At around the 35:20 mark someone in the crowd asks a fucking Benoit question. You can just see the looks in Punk's and Sheamus's faces and it'll tell the whole story. Luckily, Punk handled it fairly well and professionally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yerHZdjfQuQ[/QUOTE]
CM Punk is kind of a doucher.
 
[quote name='ced']fucktarded move to ask a Benoit question, but Punk gave the straightforward, professional response. Thankfully the guy drops it without much of a fight.[/QUOTE]

Kind of yeah, on the other hand, why didn't WWE release a press statement sometime after everything happened saying something along the lines of what Punk said? I think that's probably the most no-nonsense straight talking and legitimate answer anyone's given on the Benoit situation.

Instead of handling it directly like Punk did WWE essentially went the direction Vulcan mentioned of "no comment" and went about scrubbing him from everything. Had they instead handled the situation in the first place and simply released a company statement along the lines of what Punk said of basically "look, he is a part of history but given what happened promoting him in any way after the fact would be inappropriate." Had WWE done that from the beginning the whole situation wouldn't have turned into a huge internet joke in the first place.
 
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No way that new ECW trademark is upheld. WWE still uses the ECW name in their DVDs so it's not like they've abandoned it. Plus, they have a lot of money for lawyers.
 
[quote name='Scorch']This could be a problem:

"A LLC in New York named "Mocker" recently registered to trademark 'ECW' for wrestling use. Apparently WWE let the trademark slip on it."[/QUOTE]


If there is any justice in this world, Paul Heyman is behind this new registration.

Oh, and hey, TNA put on a solid show (from what I watched on their YouTube channel). I had been apprehensive about this "Joseph Park" story, but it's actually being put together in a competent and interesting manner. Plus, it helps that Bully Ray is perhaps the best heel in today's mainstream wrasslin.

For anyone who watched the entire show, did they touch on the "Crackhead baby daddy" angle? That angle is pretty bad, from what I've seen, but I just skip over those videos and, voila, it stays away from my brain.

Despite some of the YouTube populace shitting on Zema Ion and Brooke Adams, I think they're pretty good at what they do. Adams ain't too bad for a Hooters waitress turned wrassler. Ion is actually good and plays a good gimmick. No idea why he's receiving hate. He may be holding the title until (hopefully) Kenny King runs with it to a World title shot, but he's better than average.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PqrTrTY0CY
 
[quote name='Chase'](hopefully) Kenny King runs with it into a World title shot, but he's better than average.[/QUOTE]
Did you watch Destination-X? They're definitely giving it to Jesse Sorensen.

Personally, I don't think Kenny King is that good. He's alright - Needs to be less vanilla. I almost want to say he stinks, but his ring work is pretty good.

Ion, on the other hand, is awesome. I could easily see him stepping up the World Title scene in a year or two.

I thought BLK JEEZ (I can't remember what name he was using in TNA) had the look, ability and charisma. He'd be a great addition to the X-Division roster.
 
Between WWE letting ECW slip and then being denied the Ryback trademark, I'm hoping we're just a few snafus away from "ECW" holding "Wrestlemania" where "Max Moon" beats "The Undertaker" in 12 seconds.
 
[quote name='Brak']I thought BLK JEEZ (I can't remember what name he was using in TNA) had the look, ability and charisma. He'd be a great addition to the X-Division roster.[/QUOTE]

Rashad Cameron.

[quote name='KaneRobot']Between WWE letting ECW slip and then being denied the Ryback trademark, I'm hoping we're just a few snafus away from "ECW" holding "Wrestlemania" where "Max Moon" beats "The Undertaker" in 12 seconds.[/QUOTE]

That would be great just to watch the WWE Universe Zombies™ as their heads explode.
 
[quote name='Chase']Despite some of the YouTube populace shitting on Zema Ion and Brooke Adams, I think they're pretty good at what they do. Adams ain't too bad for a Hooters waitress turned wrassler. Ion is actually good and plays a good gimmick. No idea why he's receiving hate. He may be holding the title until (hopefully) Kenny King runs with it to a World title shot, but he's better than average.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. I think a lot of the hate for Ion comes because he injured Sorenson. When that happened, a lot of people were saying he was a bad, sloppy wrestler. I mean, at the end of the day, whether or not wrestling is "fake," it's still a contact sport. People get hurt. It happens. Thats why i think him shittalking, saying he doesn't care that he injured Jesse works. Is he supposed to apologize that he hurt someone in what should be a violent sport?

As for Brooke, she's seems to be doing good. Did she just start wrestling in TNA or did she do ringwork in WWE? I only started watching after a long haitus when her, Kelly, and Layla were doing the Expose in ECW.


Also, I'm guessing nobody watched the whole SDCC panel because nobody mentioned Del Rio pulling a '11 Punk at the end. For anyone who wants to watch, go to the 45 minute mark. Punk and Ziggler leave to do something else, leaving Sheamus alone for the rest of the panel, and after a few minutes, Del Rio interrupts. Honestly, I really like these SDCC promos they do. I would love it if they did something like this at the NYCC also but I guess ours just isn't good enough. :lol:
 
I think it's weird that Kharma was moved to the Alumni section, yet WWE has yet to formally announce her release. She also mentioned that she's not taking future bookings..

Don't forget, MITB PPV tonight! I'm excited for.. uh..

well, the eight man MITB match should be cool. Punk/Bryan should be phenomenal. Other than that..
 
[quote name='Fatality']Credit to WrasslorMonkey[/QUOTE]

If you'd like to credit me you can drop a link to the recap (also each image has a "copy [ url][ img]" button which will link them to the recap to make it easy) :D
 
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