The "Stay Classy, Republicans" Super Nintendo Chalmers Thread

[quote name='IRHari']C'mon guys Obama was elected POTUS. Racism is over, remember?[/QUOTE]

Is calling a 6 foot tall man a midget the same thing as calling a 5 foot tall man a midget?

Perhaps, maybe just maybe the context would make it different.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']And white people don't have a legacy of racist subjugation as biological atavists, more evolutionarily reminiscent of apes than humans.

So, yeah, Bush vs chimp was a website. But nevertheless an apples to oranges comparison.[/QUOTE]

Bob, does this have any bearing in this discussion at all?
 
I wouldn't presume to know. I tend to not jump on accusing complete strangers of horrible things with little to no knowledge of their lives.
 
[quote name='IRHari']So you think portraying Obama & parents as monkeys was done out of ignorance, not malice?[/QUOTE]

You know who thinks that isn't the case?

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...birther_joke_meant_for_my_friends.php?ref=fpb

Scott Baugh, chair of the OC Republican Party, decried the e-mail, telling R. Scott Moxley of the Weekly that he thought it was "despicable."

"It is dripping with racism and it does not promote the type of message Orange County Republicans want to deliver to the public," he said. "I think she should consider stepping down as an elected official."

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http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/04/racist_orange_county_republica.php?page=2

Michael J. Schroeder, an Orange County resident and former chairman of the California Republican Party, also said he was disgusted.

"This is a three strikes situation for Marilyn Davenport," Schroeder said. "She was a passionate defender of former Newport Beach City Councilman Dick Nichols, who stated that he was voting against putting in more grass at Corona del Mar's beach because, he said, there were already 'too many Mexicans on the beach.' She was also on the wrong side of the fence with the Los Alamitos mayor and his White House watermelon patch picture. Now, she has managed to top both of those incidents by comparing African Americans to monkeys. She has disgraced herself and needs to resign. If she doesn't, the Republican Party must remove her."


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BTW the bint is using birther gibberish as an excuse.

Some people believe the birther stuff is just racism by another name. Can't say I disagree.
 
The old women that sent out the monkey email played the Uncle Bob card. She is complaining its unfair that no one raked people over the coals during the Bush administration over emails making fun of him but now she is being targeted because its Obama. To be fair she is now back paddling on that and saying she is just flat out sorry and that she would have never sent it if she thought of the racial implications though.

The head of her local commite defended her and also gave a CLASSIC line "shes a good Christian women". Always have to love when people use being "Christian" as a defense as though it defends them from ever doing any wrong. The women herself also added that she is a Christian trying to be Christ like in her second apology as well. I actually had a contractor come to my house recently and tell me "you know we wont rip you off because we are a Christian run company". Always amazes me that some people think that means something.
 
That's the biggest con going on in contracting I think. we have a company here called Alpha and Omega Plumbing, big-ass fish symbol on the side of the trucks. Then there is Christian Brothers Automotive, with a big cross on the sign, it's getting crazy really.
 
I know a lot of Republicians and one thing I've noticed about them all is that they spend more money than anybody and have to have the nicest things, and don't mind debt.
 
[quote name='2DMention']I know a lot of Republicians and one thing I've noticed about them all is that they spend more money than anybody and have to have the nicest things, and don't mind debt.[/QUOTE]

You just described most of America ;(
 
Don't knock all debt. I have a friend who insists on paying cash for everything, and if he ever has to get a loan for anything he'll be screwed due to practically no credit history.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']My money sez GOP lashes out at Democrats for using stripper imagery in their ads.[/QUOTE]

Only problem with that is the guy in the video is so old he has to be Republican(and probably a member of Congress too!) so they would be targeting their own.
 
[quote name='2DMention']I know a lot of Republicians and one thing I've noticed about them all is that they spend more money than anybody and have to have the nicest things, and don't mind debt.[/QUOTE]

I've actually noticed the opposite for the most part.
 
Birther BS is racism by another name?
I can't go with that. I think it's stupidity in its normal name, which is why Trump and Palin are starting to bring it up again in plain sight and with some subtle hints in the case of Palin.
 
[quote name='nasum']Birther BS is racism by another name?
I can't go with that. I think it's stupidity in its normal name, which is why Trump and Palin are starting to bring it up again in plain sight and with some subtle hints in the case of Palin.[/QUOTE]
They call it dogwhistling for a reason.

How is it NOT racism if the part that is stressed is the Kenyan part and not the fact that the mother was a US citizen. Even IF Obama was born in Kenya, it wouldn't matter because the mother was able to maintain residency requirements that would still make Obama eligible for presidency.

If this was truly an issue of being born IN a ratified state of the US, then McCain would've been just as ineligible as Obama. And who was talking about that? Absolutely no one that was part of the birther movement.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']My money sez GOP lashes out at Democrats for using stripper imagery in their ads.[/QUOTE]
It was an old white guy, they'll love it.
 
[quote name='dohdough']They call it dogwhistling for a reason.

How is it NOT racism if the part that is stressed is the Kenyan part and not the fact that the mother was a US citizen. Even IF Obama was born in Kenya, it wouldn't matter because the mother was able to maintain residency requirements that would still make Obama eligible for presidency.

If this was truly an issue of being born IN a ratified state of the US, then McCain would've been just as ineligible as Obama. And who was talking about that? Absolutely no one that was part of the birther movement.[/QUOTE]

There was a significant number of people who felt McCain wasn't qualified, as well. Didn't get the traction that Obama opposition has/had, but there was some noise there.

Also, who knew that the whole birther nonsense started in the Clinton campaign?
 
I DID!

Kenya is stressed because it isn't America, would be the same thing if it was Norway for god's sake.

McCain wasn't qualified, not because of his birth location but because of his lack of ability to stand up for himself during the campaign. He became a complete tool of the party. If you look at his voting record since losing the election, he's pretty much gone against everything for which he was forced to campaign. Had it truly been McCain vs Obama and not Republican guy vs Obama he may have had a better shot.
 
The number of people that thought McCain wasn't eligible because of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone is and was miniscule compared to the amount of birthers.
 
[quote name='Feeding the Abscess']There was a significant number of people who felt McCain wasn't qualified, as well. Didn't get the traction that Obama opposition has/had, but there was some noise there.

Also, who knew that the whole birther nonsense started in the Clinton campaign?[/QUOTE]

[quote name='nasum']I DID!

Kenya is stressed because it isn't America, would be the same thing if it was Norway for god's sake.

McCain wasn't qualified, not because of his birth location but because of his lack of ability to stand up for himself during the campaign. He became a complete tool of the party. If you look at his voting record since losing the election, he's pretty much gone against everything for which he was forced to campaign. Had it truly been McCain vs Obama and not Republican guy vs Obama he may have had a better shot.[/QUOTE]
Right, there's a whole birther movement that was going against McCain.:roll:

McCain was always a shape-changing privileged piece of shit, so let''s not forget that. Being a POW doesn't change that fact. You don't crash 3 planes and walk away to fly a fourth without someone pulling some heavy strings.

People speaking out about McCain was like someone muttering it under their breath while an entire balcony was screaming bloody murder at the top of their lungs at an opera house about Obama.

And guess what, McCain pulled that same bush league shit during his senate election. fuck him.

If you two reprehensible dipshits knew anything about the 14th amendment, then you'd know that the both of them are eligible due to the fact that the parents fulfill the eligibility requirements regardless of location of birth.
 
[quote name='dohdough']Right, there's a whole birther movement that was going against McCain.:roll:

McCain was always a shape-changing privileged piece of shit, so let''s not forget that. Being a POW doesn't change that fact. You don't crash 3 planes and walk away to fly a fourth without someone pulling some heavy strings.

People speaking out about McCain was like someone muttering it under their breath while an entire balcony was screaming bloody murder at the top of their lungs at an opera house about Obama.

And guess what, McCain pulled that same bush league shit during his senate election. fuck him.

If you two reprehensible dipshits knew anything about the 14th amendment, then you'd know that the both of them are eligible due to the fact that the parents fulfill the eligibility requirements regardless of location of birth.[/QUOTE]

I've never claimed that Obama wasn't born here or otherwise ineligible. Common law citizenship has followed from both place of birth and parentage.

The reason why McCain isn't being attacked for being born in Panama is because he isn't the president. Had he won the election there would be a birther movement against him. There's a movement against Obama because he is a Democrat, and Republicans are grasping at whatever low hanging fruit they can find to get him out of office (see: Clinton/Lewinsky, and ignoring his war mongering).

Bit of info that many probably don't know:

Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before it was ratified as a state. His citizenship had to be confirmed in court before he was deemed eligible to run for president.
 
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[quote name='Feeding the Abscess']Had he won the election there would be a birther movement against him.[/QUOTE]

I'd need some proof of that.
 
Aside from the Obama birther crap starting with the Clinton campaign, the only proof I can offer is the noise present in 2008 when he was candidate, and the true believers in the birther realm who oppose Obama and McCain on those grounds. The birther movement really only took off when Obama won, tards are playing for the home team and going after whatever stupid issue they can find so their team can get an advantage.

If opponents of Bush were willing to say that he had a hand in bringing down the towers, it's not a stretch to say that those and other opponents would believe a less incendiary conspiracy.

In short, R vs D politics are a cesspool.
 
That birther BS started before Obama was elected, yet I don't remember half the rabbling about McCain's citizenship.
 
[quote name='Feeding the Abscess']I've never claimed that Obama wasn't born here or otherwise ineligible. Common law citizenship has followed from both place of birth and parentage.

The reason why McCain isn't being attacked for being born in Panama is because he isn't the president. Had he won the election there would be a birther movement against him. There's a movement against Obama because he is a Democrat, and Republicans are grasping at whatever low hanging fruit they can find to get him out of office (see: Clinton/Lewinsky, and ignoring his war mongering).

Bit of info that many probably don't know:

Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before it was ratified as a state. His citizenship had to be confirmed in court before he was deemed eligible to run for president.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Feeding the Abscess']Aside from the Obama birther crap starting with the Clinton campaign, the only proof I can offer is the noise present in 2008 when he was candidate, and the true believers in the birther realm who oppose Obama and McCain on those grounds. The birther movement really only took off when Obama won, tards are playing for the home team and going after whatever stupid issue they can find so their team can get an advantage.

If opponents of Bush were willing to say that he had a hand in bringing down the towers, it's not a stretch to say that those and other opponents would believe a less incendiary conspiracy.

In short, R vs D politics are a cesspool.[/QUOTE]
So in other words...blah blah blah...NO TRUE SCOTSMAN...

I wish I had the ability to do those mental gymnastics...
 
If you weren't an alternate s/n or a troll, I'd tell you to read my posts so you could plainly see I'm not a birther, nor do I support or agree with the birther movement - even bringing in common law practice and precedent from a former presidential candidate who actually was born outside of the US to make my point.

But, alas.
 
I think we've already covered the birther movement in relation to McCain. Basically, the summation was that it didn't count (even though the birther movement against McCain has lasted many, many more years than that against Obama) because McCain's white.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']I think we've already covered the birther movement in relation to McCain. Basically, the summation was that it didn't count (even though the birther movement against McCain has lasted many, many more years than that against Obama) because McCain's white.[/QUOTE]

I'm not going to lie to you, I've never, ever, heard of a birther movement against McCain. It's probably because most people dismissed it out of hand because it was ridiculous. You have to admit that there are many more people who actually believe in the Obama birther issue.
 
Heh just saw the Chimp ladies apology to the media and it was even worse. She said the same things she had already said but added "I am sorry I have offended the blacks. Some of my best friends are blacks". I love both that she referred to them as "the blacks" and also brought out the old tried and true some of my best friends are black line(again though she had to say blacks not black).

She also ended her interview by claiming she will not step down from her position because she has received a flood of mail from her constituents begging her not to step down.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Heh just saw the Chimp ladies apology to the media and it was even worse. She said the same things she had already said but added "I am sorry I have offended the blacks. Some of my best friends are blacks". I love both that she referred to them as "the blacks" and also brought out the old tried and true some of my best friends are black line(again though she had to say blacks not black).[/QUOTE]

I HATE when people use the best friends are _____ when apologizing. Why do people feel they need to prove they are so "multicultural" after they offend someone? It doesn't matter if you have ____ minority friends or if you've never had a conversation with a fill in the blank minority, you still acted like an idiot.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']I HATE when people use the best friends are _____ when apologizing. Why do people feel they need to prove they are so "multicultural" after they offend someone? It doesn't matter if you have ____ minority friends or if you've never had a conversation with a fill in the blank minority, you still acted like an idiot.[/QUOTE]

I agree, I just think its hard NOT to do it. I mean the thing is that most of those people know a few people that are a minority and are civil to them and as a result they think that qualifies them as not racist. If you actually do have legitimate friends that are black or gay or hispanic or whatever it becomes ever harder because you made a bonehead comment or something you have said was taken the wrong way or blown out of proportion by someone else and the natural defense feels like...well if I have friends of this minority how can I be against them!
 
[quote name='dohdough']If you two reprehensible dipshits knew anything about the 14th amendment, then you'd know that the both of them are eligible due to the fact that the parents fulfill the eligibility requirements regardless of location of birth.[/QUOTE]

High praise once again!
Note that I don't support birther BS in either direction, as evidenced by my "It isn't racist, it's just stupid" post that you also quoted and responded to.
 
[quote name='IRHari']I'd need some proof of that.[/QUOTE]

Burden of proof doesn't apply to alternate histories. It's like saying that the Homefront developers should have proved that North Korea would be the dominant government coming out of unification. All you can go by is the news coverage during the election and it leaned heavily toward Obama and Hawaii. Is that proof that there wouldn't be a birther movement with McCain? Nope. You can't predict how liberals would've reacted to losing in '08. Hell, I'd be more inclined to say race riots would've happened by now if McCain was in office but who knows?

As for the "chimpanzee" lady, of course her constituents support her. She's a Republican politician in a heavily Republican area.
 
I think it just serves as an example of the cognitive dissonance that now permeates our society. Perception has become reality, President Obama wants to tax the wealthy at such a rate that they'd have no choice but to leave the country to find somewhere where they can keep their precious pennies while giving single black mothers with numerous children by different fathers the money from the rich. All the while everyone is going to get free healthcare!
He's also from Kenya and smokes Kools. Find me a picture of him in Kenya, smoking a Kool and hugging a Koala and I'll prove to you he's a grand wizard of the KKK, get me on Rush and within 2hrs half of his listeners will think it's time to march on Washington and lynch the dude.
 
[quote name='IRHari']Obama has shown the proof. And despite the proof, the Obama birther movement still exists and is going strong.[/QUOTE]

That's not the proof you were asking for. You asked for proof that McCain haters would or wouldn't be spouting birther nonsense if he had been elected.

I think we all know that Obama has proved his citizenship as much as he has to.
 
Allen West really is trying his hardest to be the craziest Republican on top of the Crazy pile ;)

Speaking before a group of conservative women last week, Rep. Allen West (R-FL), the firebrand freshman lawmaker known mostly for his hateful (and often illogical) rhetoric, accused Planned Parenthood and other women's groups not aligned with his brand of conservatism of making the country weaker, growing the debt, and, "neutering American men."

WEST: The women in our campaign printed up t-shirts that said "Women for West." That's what we need to do — we need you to come in and lock shields to strengthen up the men that will go into the fight for you — to let these other women know, on the other side, these Planned Parenthood women, the Code Pink women, and all of these women who have been neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness, to let them know that we are not going to have our men become subservient. That's what we need you to do. Because if we don't, then the debt will continue to grow.
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"Our Judeo-Christian heritage is at stake. That's part of it," West added. "This is not just an ideological battle, a huge ideological chasm, about the relationship of government to the individual, to society, and to our business sector. It really is a spiritual confrontation about the soul of these United States of America."
 
Man the women supporting that guy must be pretty fucked in the head. He's sitting there basically shitting all over them and they're letting him do it. Then again, that's what the republican base basically does anyway, so meh.
 
Meh the bible is full of examples of people shitting on other people. Its just part of religion, accept your "betters". People like to cherry pick the bible now days and ignore the stuff they do not like. Apparently West is old school and takes it literally.
 
Oh I get West, he's a conservative male stuck in the early 20th century. What I don't get is why those women seem to be right there with him. Why anyone would just sit there and let people verbally shit all over them without even realizing it is beyond me.
 
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