The "Stay Classy, Republicans" Super Nintendo Chalmers Thread

[quote name='mykevermin']Am I the only one who doesn't think it's funny that someone can be so openly proud of their bigotry in this day and age?[/QUOTE]
I laugh because it's so absurd.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Am I the only one who doesn't think it's funny that someone can be so openly proud of their bigotry in this day and age?[/QUOTE]
If I don't laugh, I'd cry or go into a murderous rage.
 
You guys laugh but I was sitting watching TV last night when they aired that filth. I was absolutely incensed that someone could say something openly bigoted particularly when running for the office of President.

The Saturday night debate is literally 2 blocks away from my apartment (priority admission is given to students so I'm fairly certain I could get in if I show up early enough); I haven't decided if I want to go see it or not but after what the Occupy Iowa folks did to Chris Christie (standing in for Mitt Romney who's apparently too busy to campaign for himself in Iowa) the other night I'm kind of curious to know if they've got anything planned for this debate.
 
Yeah, there's nothing funny about it. Just infuriating that there's still such a big swath of this country that's bigoted that a presidential candidate can even consider such a message as a way to garner support.

But not that surprising sadly. With a few exceptions most of the US is worthless outside of the NE and West Coast.
 
Well on the bright side his video jsut broke the record for the most thumbs down/dislike votes ever on a youtube video. 8,000 likes and about 350,000 dislikes
 
We should go after the parents of all the gay people, cuz that's where they came from.

After that, then we can continue the crusade against the anti-Christmas people, because the War of Christmas is as effective as the War on Drugs, and that makes baby Jesus cry.
 
[quote name='Strell']We should go after the parents of all the gay people, cuz that's where they came from.

After that, then we can continue the crusade against the anti-Christmas people, because the War of Christmas is as effective as the War on Drugs, and that makes baby Jesus cry.[/QUOTE]

The should be sterilized to make sure they dont make any more gaywad children. Just to be safe as a preventive we should also sterilize anyone we see drinking starbucks and carrying an apple laptop as well.
 
[quote name='Strell']We should go after the parents of all the gay people, cuz that's where they came from.

After that, then we can continue the crusade against the anti-Christmas people, because the War of Christmas is as effective as the War on Drugs, and that makes baby Jesus cry.[/QUOTE]

How the fuck did this guy become Governor of Texas in the first place? I mean really, did everyone get together and say, "hey, let's show the rest of the country we can do worse that W.!"
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']The Saturday night debate is literally 2 blocks away from my apartment (priority admission is given to students so I'm fairly certain I could get in if I show up early enough);[/QUOTE]

If only you could ask him about this...

[quote name='dmaul1114']Just infuriating that there's still such a big swath of this country that's bigoted that a presidential candidate can even consider such a message as a way to garner support.[/QUOTE]

On one hand, I'm grateful to live in a country where someone can say something like this, even if they're running for president.
On the other hand, I'm sad that someone would think, much less say it. Even more so if they're running for president.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']How the fuck did this guy become Governor of Texas in the first place? I mean really, did everyone get together and say, "hey, let's show the rest of the country we can do worse that W.!"[/QUOTE]

We do things big here, and that includes being dumbasses. RESPECT IT, YA YANKUH.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']If only you could ask him about this...



On one hand, I'm grateful to live in a country where someone can say something like this, even if they're running for president.
On the other hand, I'm sad that someone would think, much less say it. Even more so if they're running for president.[/QUOTE]

Just because we have the freedom to say whatever we want doesn't mean we should say whatever we want. Especially when you're someone already in a position of power seeking a higher position of power. It reinforces the message that gay people can, and should, be treated differently.

I really wish the debate was a town hall forum type where people could ask questions because it'll likely be filled with college students and that aid will fly on this campus like a lead balloon. I did get an email that Newt Gingrich is having a mini-town hall at 3 pm on Saturday before the debate which has caught my interest but I feel like the ship has already sailed on his last idiotic comment (child labor laws should be repealed).
 
some child labour can be revised though. Mostly farm labour in terms of animal care. I mean hell, that's basically what 4H is all about and they're a cherished organization.
Pretty much anything that isn't life-threatening should be allowed if it's within a family owned context.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Just because we have the freedom to say whatever we want doesn't mean we should say whatever we want. Especially when you're someone already in a position of power seeking a higher position of power. It reinforces the message that gay people can, and should, be treated differently.
[/QUOTE]

That pretty much summarizes what Bob was getting at with his two statements.

Freedom of speech is a great thing, but it's sad that it's still acceptable to any degree for something like that to be said in a presidential campaign.
 
This is a great damn picture!

Newt-Zoos002.jpg


"I'm gonna look so manly and presidential holding this eagl- OH GOD! Please don't hurt me! Ah, Ah, it's pecking at my arm!"
 
So I'm sitting here watching frosty on cbs and something occurred to me. That douche bag magician is such a libertarian. Never mind that his hat brought something to life, it's his property dammit.
 
[quote name='nasum']some child labour can be revised though. Mostly farm labour in terms of animal care. I mean hell, that's basically what 4H is all about and they're a cherished organization.
Pretty much anything that isn't life-threatening should be allowed if it's within a family owned context.[/QUOTE]

Should the government really try to revise child labor laws so ten year old kids can muck the stalls on their family farm? Is that really the best use of their time?
 
[quote name='depascal22']Should the government really try to revise child labor laws so ten year old kids can muck the stalls on their family farm? Is that really the best use of their time?[/QUOTE]

Kids already work on family farms, why is that a bad thing?
 
[quote name='Clak']"I'll insult an entire nation of people to score political points at home."

http://news.yahoo.com/gingrich-fuels-more-mideast-conflict-palestinians-125812009.html[/QUOTE]

If Gingrich gets backlash from that it'll mean a huge amount of progress has been made. Remember when Helen Thomas got fired because she said Jews should get out of Israel? But people who say Palestinians should leave Gaza don't get punished at all?
 
[quote name='Strell']Diamonds aren't made out of blood, ya dummy![/QUOTE]
I know this is an old post, but I just read it and I cracked the hell up at Strell's edit of the Huffington Post story about the crotchety bastard bitching about oil being shown unfavorably in movies.
 
[quote name='Feeding the Abscess']Kids already work on family farms, why is that a bad thing?[/QUOTE]

You're missing the point.

Wilmington Delaware is the inner city. I've had children come up to me, no older than 12, while I was working and beg me for a job. I've seen kids hustling to sell crack, no older than 18, with the work ethic, efficiency, and organization of a McDonalds during the lunch rush. I've worked in the food bank with 10,12, & 14 year-old kids and their parents (who themselves were on food assistance) help pick through and pack food boxes. We had a child at a local school who was part of the chorus. Has a beautiful voice and always attends practice. But was from such a poor family he couldn't afford shoes! The parents had to get together and buy shoes for him.

Newt's argument is that poor people are lazy. It's that simple. It's demagoguery at it's worst. That if we just get those kids to clean toilets at school we can solve poverty. Look, I'm not saying the sin of sloth isn't in the world. I can personally be a slothful son of a bitch at times. But Newt's argument I find, as a Republican and a Christian, personally insulting. And it's classic Newt.

First, there's no actual policy there. Is Newt going to create an inner city peace corp? How is he going to improve educational opportunity. How is he going to reduce crime that often forces parents to keep kids cooped up in their home. Secondly, it's designed to be a political trap. As soon as someone speaks up on how stupid an idea it is, Newt can say something like, "Well, obviously my opponent doesn't understand the value of hard work. Instilling a sense of work ethic and pride in a job well done will help the youth of America." Queue applause from crowd. I'm politiclaly savvy enough to see the trap.
 
How about we just put arts, phys ed, music and shop back in schools. Id rather kids go to school till 5 or 6 every day but the last 2-3 hours be something like that where they are still learning work ethic but also getting a well rounded education, then for them to become a cheap replacement to union janitors. Yes doing this would cost a little more money but that money is because we are educating our kids and creating jobs. Its a much better solution.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']How about we just put arts, phys ed, music and shop back in schools. Id rather kids go to school till 5 or 6 every day but the last 2-3 hours be something like that where they are still learning work ethic but also getting a well rounded education, then for them to become a cheap replacement to union janitors. Yes doing this would cost a little more money but that money is because we are educating our kids and creating jobs. Its a much better solution.[/QUOTE]
I don't think 9-10 hour school days and destroying unions is the answer. I can't remember if I had this conversation with you before, but janitors deserve a good living wage too. It's not an easy job and schools tend to be understaffed to begin with. How does eliminating the earning potential of a position that allows someone to have a home, raise a family, and send a couple of kids to college a good thing? They might not be a nominee for most important job in the world, but it's a pretty damn important job that is pretty necessary.

edit: Did anyone catch the debate last night? I heard it was EPIC. There's going to be another one on tues.
 
[quote name='Admiral Ackbar']You're missing the point.

Wilmington Delaware is the inner city. I've had children come up to me, no older than 12, while I was working and beg me for a job. I've seen kids hustling to sell crack, no older than 18, with the work ethic, efficiency, and organization of a McDonalds during the lunch rush. I've worked in the food bank with 10,12, & 14 year-old kids and their parents (who themselves were on food assistance) help pick through and pack food boxes. We had a child at a local school who was part of the chorus. Has a beautiful voice and always attends practice. But was from such a poor family he couldn't afford shoes! The parents had to get together and buy shoes for him.

Newt's argument is that poor people are lazy. It's that simple. It's demagoguery at it's worst. That if we just get those kids to clean toilets at school we can solve poverty. Look, I'm not saying the sin of sloth isn't in the world. I can personally be a slothful son of a bitch at times. But Newt's argument I find, as a Republican and a Christian, personally insulting. And it's classic Newt.

First, there's no actual policy there. Is Newt going to create an inner city peace corp? How is he going to improve educational opportunity. How is he going to reduce crime that often forces parents to keep kids cooped up in their home. Secondly, it's designed to be a political trap. As soon as someone speaks up on how stupid an idea it is, Newt can say something like, "Well, obviously my opponent doesn't understand the value of hard work. Instilling a sense of work ethic and pride in a job well done will help the youth of America." Queue applause from crowd. I'm politiclaly savvy enough to see the trap.[/QUOTE]

I don't disagree. That's what Newt does.

Interestingly enough, liberals won't find much to disagree with when it comes to Newt's approach to solving problems - he, even moreso than Romney or Santorum, believes in activist government. Some of his proposals may not mesh with liberal goals, but his belief in the role of government is not in question. He's the neocon's neocon, cut from the cloth of the original brood.

He'd also be a complete disaster abroad. Freaking Walrus Bolton as his Sec. of State? Puke.
 
[quote name='Feeding the Abscess']I don't disagree. That's what Newt does.

Interestingly enough, liberals won't find much to disagree with when it comes to Newt's approach to solving problems - he, even moreso than Romney or Santorum, believes in activist government. Some of his proposals may not mesh with liberal goals, but his belief in the role of government is not in question. He's the neocon's neocon, cut from the cloth of the original brood.

He'd also be a complete disaster abroad. Freaking Walrus Bolton as his Sec. of State? Puke.[/QUOTE]

Oh man, John Bolton as Secretary of State would be the ultimate epic troll the world move.
 
[quote name='dohdough']I don't think 9-10 hour school days and destroying unions is the answer. I can't remember if I had this conversation with you before, but janitors deserve a good living wage too. It's not an easy job and schools tend to be understaffed to begin with. How does eliminating the earning potential of a position that allows someone to have a home, raise a family, and send a couple of kids to college a good thing? They might not be a nominee for most important job in the world, but it's a pretty damn important job that is pretty necessary.

edit: Did anyone catch the debate last night? I heard it was EPIC. There's going to be another one on tues.[/QUOTE]

I didnt say to destroy unions and if I did I didnt mean it. I was saying it would mean we DIDNT destory the unions. Gingrich is saying give these kids the jobs and it will destroy the "expensive union janitor positions". What I am saying is give those kids some needed extra classes and it will teach them more valuable skills, make them healthier and not only do those janitors keep their jobs but new ones are created for the various teachers.

Its sad how undervalued teachers are right now. Here in Ohio we have made so many fucking cuts to education its a joke. I felt disgusted last night when I was talking to my waitress at Pizza Hut and she said she had a degree in childhood education but just couldn't find work as a teacher right now.
 
[quote name='Admiral Ackbar']You're missing the point.

Wilmington Delaware is the inner city. I've had children come up to me, no older than 12, while I was working and beg me for a job. I've seen kids hustling to sell crack, no older than 18, with the work ethic, efficiency, and organization of a McDonalds during the lunch rush. I've worked in the food bank with 10,12, & 14 year-old kids and their parents (who themselves were on food assistance) help pick through and pack food boxes. We had a child at a local school who was part of the chorus. Has a beautiful voice and always attends practice. But was from such a poor family he couldn't afford shoes! The parents had to get together and buy shoes for him.

Newt's argument is that poor people are lazy. It's that simple. It's demagoguery at it's worst. That if we just get those kids to clean toilets at school we can solve poverty. Look, I'm not saying the sin of sloth isn't in the world. I can personally be a slothful son of a bitch at times. But Newt's argument I find, as a Republican and a Christian, personally insulting. And it's classic Newt.

First, there's no actual policy there. Is Newt going to create an inner city peace corp? How is he going to improve educational opportunity. How is he going to reduce crime that often forces parents to keep kids cooped up in their home. Secondly, it's designed to be a political trap. As soon as someone speaks up on how stupid an idea it is, Newt can say something like, "Well, obviously my opponent doesn't understand the value of hard work. Instilling a sense of work ethic and pride in a job well done will help the youth of America." Queue applause from crowd. I'm politiclaly savvy enough to see the trap.[/QUOTE]

Alot of that post makes sense. Why are you Republican again?
 
[quote name='Feeding the Abscess']I don't disagree. That's what Newt does.

Interestingly enough, liberals won't find much to disagree with when it comes to Newt's approach to solving problems - he, even moreso than Romney or Santorum, believes in activist government. Some of his proposals may not mesh with liberal goals, but his belief in the role of government is not in question. He's the neocon's neocon, cut from the cloth of the original brood.

He'd also be a complete disaster abroad. Freaking Walrus Bolton as his Sec. of State? Puke.[/QUOTE]
He takes his political stance form plato then?
[quote name='Spokker']http://www.politifact.com/rhode-isl...jon-stewart-says-early-congress-met-most-chr/

That bit was actually not true.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for this, I wanted to look this up to see if it was true.
 
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[quote name='IRHari']If Gingrich gets backlash from that it'll mean a huge amount of progress has been made. Remember when Helen Thomas got fired because she said Jews should get out of Israel? But people who say Palestinians should leave Gaza don't get punished at all?[/QUOTE]
Of course not, the palestinians are evil invaders of the jewish homeland. It's perfectly fine to shit on them.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']How about we just put arts, phys ed, music and shop back in schools. Id rather kids go to school till 5 or 6 every day but the last 2-3 hours be something like that where they are still learning work ethic but also getting a well rounded education, then for them to become a cheap replacement to union janitors. Yes doing this would cost a little more money but that money is because we are educating our kids and creating jobs. Its a much better solution.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Population-wide, it would be beneficial to have more practical classes available.

Overall, this problem is not just limited to high school. College education often leaves people with useless skills as well... we have deluded ourselves to think that it should be everyone's goal to go to college... when many people would be better served by just learning a trade. Unless someone is taking a major that teaches some practical skills (e.g., engineering) or is planning to take the next step and to go to professional or graduate school... a basic college education is not cost effective...
 
[quote name='BigT']Agreed. Population-wide, it would be beneficial to have more practical classes available.

Overall, this problem is not just limited to high school. College education often leaves people with useless skills as well... we have deluded ourselves to think that it should be everyone's goal to go to college... when many people would be better served by just learning a trade. Unless someone is taking a major that teaches some practical skills (e.g., engineering) or is planning to take the next step and to go to professional or graduate school... a basic college education is not cost effective...[/QUOTE]

The problem is that what you are describing is a pragmatic socialist attitude. Which will never fly with Americans.
 
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