[quote name='dohdough']Conservative posts racist things.
Color me surprised.
It's not like black people were ever discriminated against or had structural probelms stemming from racist laws that go back to before the country was even founded. No. Never.Happened.
Hell, they were able to participate in the Homestead Act AND the GI Bill after WW2. It's not like colleges were segregated back then or we had an aparteid state like South Africa either!
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[quote name='mykevermin']That's funny - when I think of people actively thinking of themselves as victims, they would organize and protest instead. Like workers did a century ago to give us so many of the perks of American life that we take for granted or falsely think of as resulting from the "free market."
Unions, man. Not anecdotes of what a handful of people in one city on one day did, in another attempt to fuel racial flames from some ignorant arizona hillbilly.
You know, it's kind of cute in a way - that right wing thought process is centered around (1) claiming the victim mantle and (2) organized political action - you can hear it every day by listening to Beck, Limbaugh, or Hannity. They require that you act as a collective, they require you participate in the protests. The 9/12 thing Beck did was collectivism, for instance. They want you to live the life where you buy into mythologies - bootstrappin' it all on your own, nobody helped you get here but you, anybody can do It™ and those who don't just didn't work hard enough, the free market is fair because it's the free market. You accept all those frameworks uncritically, neglecting to realize you're being lied to by monied interests, just like when you listen to the news or read the paper.
So you can talk about propaganda all you want, but of course nobody *consciously* consumes propaganda (though someone has to explain to me how Sarah Palin's bromides-over-policies approach to talking to the public has been effective in any way) - but you only speak of the propaganda you readily see, which is the propaganda the right wing has prepared you to see. Big deal. Remember the anti-drug film "Reefer Madness?" Do you think that was a propaganda films based on its origin, its message, and its lies? Do you think that's the only propaganda film made on drugs, and that there are no more lies being told by the government or the media? Then I would sit back and deeply reconsider who is the victim (that word again!) or propaganda.
John Bolton was interviewed last night on talk radio about the wikileaks things: he stated what he thought of it, what he thought of the Matthews kid who allegedly leaked everything, etc. He disputed a few ideas put forth in the leaks, saying that it couldn't possibly be true, or that it never happened, so some of the leaks were wrong. But he let out an interesting slip just minutes later in the interview (which the conservative-friendly host of course didn't point out): Bolton said he believed in misinformation, or (as he quoted Churchill), "In time of war, the truth is so precious that she must be protected by a bodyguard of lies." Which means, of course (if you're paying attention, that is), that we can't believe a *thing* that came out of his mouth regarding the accuracy of the wikileaks documents, and he supports the use of propaganda material himself. Additionally, you had the creation of a formal media misinformation group post-9/11 under the Bush Administration, so you've no reason to doubt that you're surrounded by propaganda. It's the cornerstone of your current belief system.
Instead of focusing on what's important, you show your racist side, bringing the "lazy, gubmint-check-dependent unemployed black" stereotype to the equation. Suggesting that victims are docile things. Where did that notion come from? From right wing radio! You've no data to support that, you've no lived experiences. You've had your mind selectively told "black people are lazy and dependent on uncle sam" your whole life, and rebuke the entire notion of a continuing civil rights movement in the process. You dismiss in inequality in power and inequality in wealth that have formed over the years, focusing on a small portion of the population who is no threat to you, no matter how much the right tries to convince you that the lazy negro is sappin' up all our tax dollars.[/QUOTE]
Holy
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My post was not in any way meant to have anything to do with race. I found those videos by doing searches for words that had nothing to do with race.
Myke, you start out making some good points, for a change, in your post - that I was eager to reply to - and then, in your final paragraph, you revert back to your horribly predictable tactics; flying your ignorant racial flag with flying colors. How utterly disappointing. You should seriously be ashamed of yourself - you have an amazing ability to throw up shakey racial shield, or call a racist, to any argument or person or point you don't like -- Which happens to be the most popular progressive tactic in the playbook behind the Oppressor/Victim bedtime stories.
You race-baters are truly despicable and are the divisive rotten core of this country.
Truly amazing how you far lefties can convert absolutely any discussion or point into a racial issue. Good lord, if I made a thread about the moon, myke and his ilk would be talking about hidden racist history of Nasa before page 2.
