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[quote name='DukeEdwardI']Steam should definitely stick to selling just games. I'd never buy movies/TV from steam because I would probably just rent/watch instantly via netflix. It would just be a needless move and wouldn't do them any favors. Besides, it would take them forever to get all the contracts sorted out with the movie companies and the movie library would be really, really crappy for at least a year.

What I would like to see from Steam is a way to RENT PC games. This would be a GODSEND as that's a huge negative of PC gaming. You can hardly ever try before you buy unless there's a demo (which are becoming more and more rare these days). Having a few options say, 2 days/5 days/7 days for in between $3-$7? All they'd have to do is remove access after the time period ends. After that, the person would be more than able to decide if they want to buy/wait for a sale/pass.

Of course I could see this being an issue with publishers/developers as people would just pay for a week's access to a newly released game and complete by the end of that week instead of paying for the full price for it (but that's how a lot people play console games, so that's kind of moot), and it also might make it easier for pirates (are pirates able to crack the steam protection and distribute via torrent? I don't know for sure...).

What do you guys think? Is that feasible or am I just looking for pie in the sky?
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Pie in the sky, unfortunately. Console players coming into PC gaming will DEFINITELY want something like the rental system, but as you pointed out, the accessibility to play, beat, then return the license for incredibly cheap would be troublesome for the publishers/developers.
 
Games and Game related products.

I don't mind machinima of games (for free though if it's free on the web elsewhere).

TV Shows can be gotten free and legally elsewhere so...for them to get involved would be a lose on their end.
 
Just video game related things, like soundtracks/mp3s for certain games, wallpapers, ringtones, etc. It would be low cost/video game related and bring them some money.

As far as the rental system, it would be nice if they could work it out. I don't see why it would be much of an issue considering console games are rented all the time and the publishers make do fine.
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Just video game related things, like soundtracks/mp3s for certain games, wallpapers, ringtones, etc. It would be low cost/video game related and bring them some money. [/QUOTE]

This would be cool, I'd like to see more game soundtracks and wallpapers (The latter for free I'd hope, and the former for cheap or free.)
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Activision's CEO has went on record saying that he thinks we pay far too little for games and that he wants to trend the industry towards paying more and games being shorter.[/QUOTE]

He's a horrible man who's always made my skin crawl. I've even heard rumors of rumors that he's awful to employees. My favorite quote of his was something like how he'd be insane not to milk and exploit Guitar Hero, Call of Duty and other franchises. I don't know if he said milk, but he definitely said "exploit" in the quote. This is the guy who made it okay to stop hating EA (tho I still kind of hate them) and start hating Activision.

[quote name='ChernobylCow']Definitely Hot Topic t-shirts and croissants. Maybe organic blueberries and other produce.[/QUOTE]

Mmm, that would be handy. Also porn. Games, porn and produce.

Although I have to say I would buy The Guild if they had a nice price on it. :) I've always wanted to watch it. But just like with games, I would hate to pay the same price as a DVD for a digital download, and as others stated, if movies got in the way of games, I'd be unhappy.

[quote name='yeah-yeah']I think it was supposed to be as there's no pickguard, but, well, all those pick scratches give it character. It's a beaut for sure, but I don't play nearly enough.

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Product page: http://www.takamine.com/?fa=detail&mid=2201&sid=352[/QUOTE]

Beautiful! Bet it's prettyy versatile. It didn't say on the page, but it looks like a grand auditorium or mini-jumbo kind of shape. I agree scratches add character. :) Willy Nelson-style holes add a bit TOO MUCH character, but anything else is fair game. :) Love the rosette.
 
I would like to see Steam provide video and music content with limited DRM. With the consumer loyalty they have I think they would instantly be #2 behind Itunes, assuming they got the same content.
 
Oh another thing I'd like to see though they don't necessarily need to sell it is a media player. something in the shift+tab menu. I'm running steam all the time anyway so if they could get it to be really low memory, that'd be shweet.
 
I'd love to see music, movies, and TV shows on Steam some day. Preferably in high-definition of course. I have this thing for owning hard copies of games and movies but they really take up a lot of space and it's pretty tough when you have to move out and all.
 
If Steam carried game merch like NISA's Rosenqueen shop, and had deals like they do on games, it would rock, but the market's not large enough. Curses!
 
[quote name='Jesse_Dylan']Video game porn.[/QUOTE]

People people people. You dont want to bring up porn, especially video game porn in my topic. I dont need to be nominated for CAGer awards for talking about wanking again.
 
Ha! Yeah, that was really infuriating, to be honest. :( Seems to have had zero lasting impact on the world, though, thank God, despite how absurd the media handled it.
 
[quote name='Jesse_Dylan']Ha! Yeah, that was really infuriating, to be honest. :( Seems to have had zero lasting impact on the world, though, thank God, despite how absurd the media handled it.[/QUOTE]

It made a dent on Dragon Age! Sex with clothes on!

I have about 10 games left to download and install from the holiday sale. They average about 8 GB each, and I'm on DSL 7Mbps. Not as shabby as I would have expected.
 
[quote name='Teeheehee']It made a dent on Dragon Age! Sex with clothes on!

I have about 10 games left to download and install from the holiday sale. They average about 8 GB each, and I'm on DSL 7Mbps. Not as shabby as I would have expected.[/QUOTE]

I've d/l a bunch of my games overtime, for that just in case thing and also backed them up and then removed them lol. But I'm on DSL 3mpbs and that's pretty slow for downloads, it works for gaming (not hosting) though. So I take my laptop to work and download from there a lot haha
 
[quote name='aznguyen316']I've d/l a bunch of my games overtime, for that just in case thing and also backed them up and then removed them lol. But I'm on DSL 3mpbs and that's pretty slow for downloads, it works for gaming (not hosting) though. So I take my laptop to work and download from there a lot haha[/QUOTE]

I just ordered a new PC and its got a 750 gig HD, plus ill be buying a seperate 1 TB drive in the next few months to be able to have a quick removable drive to take to friends house to transfer files. I cant wait to be able to have 1.75 TB of space and just freaking download and install every steam game I have!
 
I'd lean more towards new games.

Having old games available to add to your steam collection is nice, but for me, it'd only be nice to own them for nostalgia. I'd hardly ever play them. I fall victim to the "Oh look! An old game I used to love playing as a kid! (buys and never plays)" factor.

Having the classics on there is important though for those folks who want to see the roots of PC gaming.
 
Same here, old games are cool and all but I've gotten kinda bored of them now. I still play a few here and there and the ones I do I don't play as much as the newer titles.
 
GoG.com kinda has that market on older games.... plus it Steam has to, it'd be a licensing nightmare. GOG at least knows what they are doing.

Plus with an attitude like GOG has, no need to work if they go belly up, no DRM, no Activation. Download it once and be done with it.
 
[quote name='xycury']GoG.com kinda has that market on older games.... plus it Steam has to, it'd be a licensing nightmare. GOG at least knows what they are doing.

Plus with an attitude like GOG has, no need to work if they go belly up, no DRM, no Activation. Download it once and be done with it.[/QUOTE]

I don't think just because GOG exists steam should just give up on putting used games up. And I really don't think they have the market cornered either, most of us have steam but id be surprised if even half of us used GOG regularly if at all.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I don't think just because GOG exists steam should just give up on putting used games up. And I really don't think they have the market cornered either, most of us have steam but id be surprised if even half of us used GOG regularly if at all.[/QUOTE]

But I don't think Steam could compete over GoG. I'm betting that GoG has more tie ins with the older stuff/older companies than what Steam could do.

We've got new Ubi titles on Steam, but GoG has all the stuff that Ubi owns that came from another company, 3DO/New World Computing (Heroes series).

I don't think it'd be worth it to wait for a sale and has some kind of online activation when GoG can provide that plus soundtracks/wallpaper/expansion packs/freedom mods/trailers/manuals/editors all without DRM and one installer file.

I guess if I had a choice over Steam and GoG.com on the same game, same price, I'd hop all over GoG than Steam.

Though for recent older stuff, like say offering a new game and then pairing it with the original never released online for a package deal would be interesting.

Like say DNF with the original series. But Steam won't because of the system, I think it takes far longer to incorporate a game than to just build an installer like GoG can.

Can't think of a better reason, but I think Steam trying to tackle the old game sector is too much work to be profitable.
 
The other day I picked up a big box copy of Gunman Chronicles - a great, underrated game that I haven't played in 8 years. I didn't need to spend money on it, and I'm probably never going to install it, but it's nice to have for nostalgia's sake. That's how I feel about older games on Steam.

Having said that, I love Steam for bringing new games to my attention. I just pre-purchased Global Agenda with some friends today, and I probably never would have considered it had it not been for Steam's advertising and 4-pack discount. The same goes for quite a few of the Steam games I've purchased (Killing Floor, Defense Grid, Nation Red, Tochlight, Trine, etc.). New games are just more enticing to me... especially when offered in Steam's convenient downloadable format. I can't remember the last time I used a disc to install a game.
 
[quote name='Teeheehee']It made a dent on Dragon Age! Sex with clothes on![/QUOTE]

Oh yeah... Good point. I wonder if that's the reason. If so, sad. :( I also don't like that when I take my characters' clothes off, they have permanent undies on, but I know I'm in the minority; most folks think I'm weird to care about something like that!
 
I'd prefer old games, but not too old... if they could copy the selection you find at Big Lots or Half Price Books for semi-old games at the same price it would be great... they come close with most stuff I suppose.
 
Personally I have to probably go with Peggle or Plants Vs Zombies. Both games offer just such insane replay value where they can just be picked up and played over and over again.
 
TF2

Hardly any game can claim that they've held on this far with updates. You could say Diablo 2 with the released 1.13, but that's more tweaks.

TF2 has additional content added every so often.

It's not my fav of all games, but it's my Fav Steam game thus far.
 
YOU GUYS SUCK>>> Here I am dying to get TF2 but not wanting to pay $20 for it and you're saying how great it is.. It's so tempting to get ripped off.. lol I want another $2.50 TF2 Sale.. :(
 
[quote name='Kenrik']YOU GUYS SUCK>>> Here I am dying to get TF2 but not wanting to pay $20 for it and you're saying how great it is.. It's so tempting to get ripped off.. lol I want another $2.50 TF2 Sale.. :([/QUOTE]

Meh if it makes you feel better I got the game on sale and still feel ripped off!
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Meh if it makes you feel better I got the game on sale and still feel ripped off![/QUOTE]

Alright negative Nancy, we get the point :roll:
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Meh if it makes you feel better I got the game on sale and still feel ripped off![/QUOTE]

Not one for online shooters?
 
[quote name='Kenrik']Not one for online shooters?[/QUOTE]

Not a giant fan but I still play them. TF2 just annoyed me for the lack of tutorial and offline mode.
 
Recently I have been playing Company of Heroes... OMG the game has sooooo much content.

I have played for 16 hours and I'm still on the first campaign (Normandy) it just keeps going and going.

To think that this game has 6 campaigns is crazy. I spent 3 hours just to take Hill 192.. that missions was a complete PITA.. it did not help that I turtled and kept getting pounded without being able to build a strong enough force to counterattack.
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Right now I'm going with Killing Floor... big zombie fan though so I guess that has a lot to do with it...[/QUOTE]

LFD2 ... Best Evar...
 
[quote name='Jesse_Dylan'] I also don't like that when I take my characters' clothes off, they have permanent undies on[/QUOTE]

But given that there isn't generally a "slot" for undies**, the alternative is that my guy's got nothing on under his chainmail. And I find that FAR more distracting than permanent underthings.

**Can you imagine looting the Epic Boxers of Endurance from a corpse? And then-- eww-- putting them on?

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Ahem. Er, my favorite game at the moment seems to be Torchlight. Which is just shameful, really-- it's the only Steam game I've paid full price for (dumb) and is getting attention at the expense of all the wonderful stuff I picked up in the sale (doubly dumb). Great game, though. :D
 
It's not Steam exclusive but it counts. Crysis is currently my favorite game. I should have not bought Far Cry 2 (FC1 was better, this sucked) when I had and gotten this instead. I think it's beautiful, find the stealth gameplay to be interesting, and Nanosuit is awesome. I've also been playing a ton of Crysis Wars and still trying to figure out how to play it properly. I love the modded servers, the ones that have the power mod meaning if you use maximum speed you can run insanely fast (and die if you crash into a wall) or if using maximum strength can punch objects at much greater distances. Now I'm really looking forward to Crysis 2!
 
[quote name='AndrewCP']It's not Steam exclusive but it counts. Crysis is currently my favorite game. I should have not bought Far Cry 2 (FC1 was better, this sucked) when I had and gotten this instead. I think it's beautiful, find the stealth gameplay to be interesting, and Nanosuit is awesome. I've also been playing a ton of Crysis Wars and still trying to figure out how to play it properly. I love the modded servers, the ones that have the power mod meaning if you use maximum speed you can run insanely fast (and die if you crash into a wall) or if using maximum strength can punch objects at much greater distances. Now I'm really looking forward to Crysis 2![/QUOTE]

Too bad Crisis 2 will have such huge requirements that it wont be possible to play the game until the year 2022...and even then it will take networking several computers together each running 4 graphics cards and about 12 processors each!
 
[quote name='AndrewCP']It's not Steam exclusive but it counts. Crysis is currently my favorite game. I should have not bought Far Cry 2 (FC1 was better, this sucked) when I had and gotten this instead. I think it's beautiful, find the stealth gameplay to be interesting, and Nanosuit is awesome. I've also been playing a ton of Crysis Wars and still trying to figure out how to play it properly. I love the modded servers, the ones that have the power mod meaning if you use maximum speed you can run insanely fast (and die if you crash into a wall) or if using maximum strength can punch objects at much greater distances. Now I'm really looking forward to Crysis 2![/QUOTE]

I found Crysis to be too easy. I never did play it online but a friend got it for me as gift when it first came out. I ended it in less than 2 sittings.

I just use it benchmark rigs now.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Too bad Crisis 2 will have such huge requirements that it wont be possible to play the game until the year 2022...and even then it will take networking several computers together each running 4 graphics cards and about 12 processors each![/QUOTE]

lol so true... It's funny because I think a game that runs smoothly LOOKS better then one that's like a slideshow.

Actually Crysis requires such high requirements because Crytek sucks at programming an efficient engine. Look at Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2 running at 1080P 60fps and tell me that this is not true. To top it off Uncharted has a crazy far draw distance.

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Sorry Crysis... you sux at teh grafix.

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