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[quote name='Genocidal']Without knowing anything, my first thought is a murder-suicide.[/quote]

Oof...


Anyway, I'm actually looking forward to seeing how Nitro handles being ECW champion. I really was quite confused when WWE did nothing with Nitro after he had a great feud with Jeff Hardy for the I/C title. They put on some stellar matches, and Nitro's reward was being demoted to Heat.

While ECW isn't the greatest thing going at this point, Lashley's time in ECW catapulted him to the top of Vince's favorites list. Hopefully Nitro can get the same rub and be a main event heel at some point. Although, all (non monster) heels have to have good mic skills. Here's hoping Nitro picks those up while in ECW.
 
There not much "talk time" given in ECW for Nitro to practice. He really would be a good early Shawn Michales style cocky heel. I like his Gimmick and his work in the ring is pretty good (as mentioned the series with Jeff was awesome). Nitro has lots of potential. Maybe some acting classes?
 
Right now I see Nitro feuding with Punk for the belt now that he's the only person left on ECW who's remotely deserving of a title shot right now.

I hope they let Nitro hold onto the title for awhile before having him drop it to Punk. It'd be a nice way to build up the feud.
 
What?! Did Leonidas actually show up on Smackdown? I haven't caught the last couple weeks nor did I bother to read the results.
 
[quote name='Halo05']What?! Did Leonidas actually show up on Smackdown? I haven't caught the last couple weeks nor did I bother to read the results.[/QUOTE]

Its an plug for the 300 DVD that is about to be released in July.
 
Now that it is over and done with, I'm actually interested in where they were planning on going with the Vince Death angle.

Even though I hated the hell out of it.
 
[quote name='Psykoboy2']Now that it is over and done with, I'm actually interested in where they were planning on going with the Vince Death angle.

Even though I hated the hell out of it.[/QUOTE]

The rumor mills were saying that the person who did it was supposed to have been one of the Jackass people. At least from what I recall.
 
[quote name='MorbidAngel4Life']It's probably being ended.[/quote]

Oh no. There's no doubt it's completely over with. I was just curious with what they had planned back before all this stuff happened.

It seemed like they were writing off that character, but what was the reason? Vince want to be off the TV...a way to bring Stephanie back into the show?
 
Here's Crash Holly's Figure 4 Weekly obit, which should be of use to at least a few folks here. -
Every time several wrestlers die in succession, people remark that it “always comes in threes”. And every time, I think it’s just some weird coincidence.
Michael John Lockwood, AKA Crash Holly, became the third major name to pass away over the past several weeks when he was found dead in the Florida home he shared with Steven Richards on November 6th. His death was sad for many reasons; he was only 32, he left behind a young daughter, and, perhaps most disturbing of all, it seemed that few really cared.
When Stu Hart died, people cared. Video packages were made, newspaper articles were written, and seemingly everyone had stories to tell. Ditto for Hawk. It wasn’t like the wrestling world screeched to a halt, but people did pause to reminisce and consider what each guy had meant to the business and those who had known them. When Michael Lockwood died, not only did the wrestling world not pause for even a moment, but it really just kept on rolling almost as if he’d never even existed. There were a handful of indy groups that did ten-bell salutes, and a few are planning tribute shows and other fundraisers for his family. However, the two groups he’d worked for most recently, WWE and TNA, only put short blurbs up on their websites. The newest TNA show hadn’t aired at press time, though I do expect them to do something. WWE provided absolutely nothing on Raw Monday night, not even a graphic before the show started.
This is not to say that those who knew him weren’t devastated, or that wrestling fans weren’t saddened when they first heard the news. But there was something about this one that showed just how jaded many have become by the frequent deaths. In any other form of entertainment, someone who had been in the national spotlight months earlier passing away at 32 would have been huge news, or, at the very least, registered some significant buzz. The very day Crash died, most seemed to move on with record speed.
Perhaps for many inside the business, it had something to do with the way it happened. Lockwood was a heavy partier, and there had been many times in his WWE tenure that he’d been chastised for his post-show behavior, and some firmly believed that he was insane enough that something was bound to happen eventually. While a cause of death had not been officially determined as of press time, the belief is that he was mixing pain pills with alcohol, passed out, choked on his own vomit and died. Perhaps it was such a “generic” wrestling death that many in the business who engage in similar behaviors just wanted to pretend it had never happened. Sadly, that mindset is really why that cause of death has become so generic.
Lockwood was born August 25th, 1971 in Anaheim, CA and was a big wrestling fan growing up. He followed NWA and WWF’s Prime Time Wrestling (like many who watched that show as kids, he loved the byplay between Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan), and also got tapes from Memphis, where he enjoyed watching the likes of Randy Savage. He played various sports growing up, and in 1989 he decided, despite being maybe 5-8 at a time when you had to be a monster to make it, to give wrestling a try. He trained with Woody and Rex Farmer for a bit, then moved to All Pro Wrestling to train with Jerry Monti, Michael Modest and Ric Thompson (so despite his sarcastic claims, Pepper Gomez and Mae Young did not break him in). Aside from working a bit in Mexico, he spent years working for various independent groups under such monikers as “Leprechaun” Erin O’Grady, Jonnie Pearson and W.C Pearson.
He never forgot the guys who helped him out when he was breaking in, and even when touring with WWE, he’d often stop by the All Pro or IRON (Modest and Donovan Morgan’s group which they formed after splitting from All-Pro) dojos to help out with training, or even, if they had a show that night, work a match for nothing but a dollar bill and two beers.
In 1997, he debuted in ECW after a recommendation from Taz(z), who had seen some of his tapes from California. Spike Dudley, another All Pro alumni, was already working there and had impressed a lot of people. Lockwood only lasted through November as he had issues with several guys in the company and it was figured he’d be best served not being there. Shortly after returning to California, he had a match with the enormous Vic Grimes, a tape of which ended up in the hands of Jim Ross courtesy wrestler JR Benson. Both guys were flown in for a dark match and totally tore the place down. At the time, Mick Foley was getting over like crazy as the hardcore legend, and the company felt they had another Mick Foley in Grimes (seriously). Suffice to say, they did not. Grimes lasted seemingly one day after being sent to Memphis (their developmental territory at the time which produced Rock and Kurt Angle among others), and Lockwood impressed everyone enough that he was brought up to the big show about a year later.
He debuted on TV in August of 1999 as Crash Holly (a Russo creation), the “400-pound superheavyweight” cousin of Bob Holly who often carried a scale to the ring. The gimmick was that he and Bob fought constantly (as in, physically beat each other up) (OK, Bob beat up Crash), though were still able to get it done in the ring. Their highlight was likely winning the WWF Tag Team Titles from Rock & Mick Foley, who at the time were on fire as the Rock & Sock Connection. Lockwood often said that as mean and surly as Bob was, he taught him more about the ins-and-outs of the company than anyone else.
His biggest claim to fame was likely being the man who held the WWF/E Hardcore Title approximately 19 times (they did so many title changes in so many weird places, some of which didn’t even appear on TV, that this number might be low). He first won the belt on February 24th, 2000 from Test, then vowed that he would defend it anytime, anywhere, as long as there was a sanctioned WWF official present. This led to the infamous “24/7 rule” storyline which saw him defend, lose and regain the title week after week in a variety of locales, the most infamous being Funtime USA, an indoor amusement park which allowed him to brawl with the Headbangers in the ball pit. He often said this was his personal favorite WWF moment, as they shot the entire thing in one take and he even got to take a ride down the huge slide with a cameraman sitting behind him. In later years, he seemed bitter that Mick Foley was often given credit for putting that division on the map.
“Mick Foley didn’t make the belt famous, I did,” he told the Interactive Interview radio show. “Mick Foley didn’t make that belt famous. Mick Foley fell off the top of a cage. That’s what made him famous.”
His last major program involved Bob, their newest cousin Molly (Nora Greenwald) and the Dudleys. The gimmick was that the Hollys and the Dudleys hated each other, except for Molly and Spike, who were in love. I remember when Nora had just debuted, I jokingly suggested on Wrestling Observer Live that they name her “Holly Holly”. When she showed up as “Molly”, I was terrified to discover that I was thinking on the same wavelength as whoever came up with that one. He held the Light Heavyweight Title at one point, losing it to Jerry Lynn on a pay-per-view pre-show, and also the European Championship, which he won from and lost back to William Regal. Those two reigns were so memorable that most don’t even remember they happened.
Over the last year or so, the company couldn’t figure out anything to do with him (which is carny for “they had no interest in doing anything with him”), so he was relegated to doing matches on Heat and Velocity depending upon which show he was on at the time. This past summer, he “jumped” to Smackdown and teamed up with Matt Hardy and Shannon Moore as one of Hardy’s “MFer” Mattitude Followers. He was actually a lackey’s lackey, as Hardy dubbed him a “Moore-on”. They were, as Crash later complained, the only six-man team in the history of wrestling to never do a six-man match together. During this period, he had philosophical problems with writers David Lagana and (mostly) Brian Gewirtz.
WWE finally released him and he went to work for TNA, where he took on the comedy gimmick of “Mad Mikey”, a dude who was perpetually angry. He did some stuff here and there for the company, but it didn’t seem like they really got behind him much either. In radio interviews, he would constantly put the company over, saying they had figured out what to do with him after just two weeks, and it was one of the best locker rooms he’d ever been in. It had been some time since he’d made an appearance, however.
Recently, he’d run a wrestling school at the Duke Power building in Salisbury, NC, and was planning on moving back to California to become a full-time instructor for IRON. He’d also signed to work in their sister promotion in Japan, Mitsuhara Misawa’s Pro Wrestling NOAH, starting in January. He was scheduled to fly in this past Saturday to oversee open IRON tryouts, but sadly, as Morgan and Modest wrote in a note on their website, he never got a chance to board the plane.
His widow, Christeena, whom he’d separated from months earlier, disputed reports that he’d choked on his vomit, but did indicate he probably died of something similar when she said: “I know there are lots of things on the Internet about his death, but they’re not true. And I don’t want to say how he died because I’m afraid people will look at him negatively.” She said her main concern is to make sure his daughter (who currently lives with her mother in California) gets a proper education.
“He was the biggest goof ball,” Christeena recalled. “He was so funny walking up and down the ropes, doing things to make you laugh, and telling corny jokes.”
His funeral was scheduled to take place on November 11th at 2:00 PM at the Linn-Honeycutt Funeral Home in China Grove, NC
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[quote name='Psykoboy2']Now that it is over and done with, I'm actually interested in where they were planning on going with the Vince Death angle.

Even though I hated the hell out of it.[/QUOTE]

Here's what the dirt sheet are saying:

Regarding the McMahon "death" angle on Raw last night before news broke out on the sudden death of WWE star Chris Benoit, thus causing the show to be a tribute show, original plans called for the show to end with "federal investigators" arresting Vince's wife Linda McMahon on suspicion of murder.

However, it would later turn out that the incompetent "feds" were wrong. Not on last night's Raw, but on a future episode. The "feds" would then continue their investigation and the storyline would have continued for an indefinite amount of time.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']muther fucker.. you love nitro now but would hate when i expressed my likeness for mnm

:)[/quote]
I like Nitro. I hate mnm. I think it was a match on Raw, Nitro vs. Shelton that changed my mind about Nitro. He's awesome.
 
That's good, job your new ECW champ out to John Jackoff.

Scary thought about how wrestling deaths "come in 3s"

This time we lose Sherri, Benoit and Wellington.
 
Is HHH still called The Game?

I just found my WWF The Music Vol. 5 CD and popped it in; the first song is "The Game", HHH's theme my Motorhead. I was a big fan of his back then and was wondering if his image is still the same. I remember he would drink his water, then spit it in in the air on the edge of the ring befor ehe went it.
 
[quote name='Rocko']Is HHH still called The Game?

I just found my WWF The Music Vol. 5 CD and popped it in; the first song is "The Game", HHH's theme my Motorhead. I was a big fan of his back then and was wondering if his image is still the same. I remember he would drink his water, then spit it in in the air on the edge of the ring befor ehe went it.[/quote]
Indeed it is still the same... not so much when he's doing the DX routines w/Michaels, but as a solo, yeah, it's 2000 all over again. And it's the same song. I think he used Drowning Pool's version (from WWE Forceable Entry) for about 15 minutes one year, but it's back to Motorhead...
 
Papa Shango will come back. He will raise Andre the Giant from the dead. Andre will then summarily job to Cena. I have spoken.
 
What song is this that is playing before like every break? "I just wanna be famous blah blah blah?"

n/m..google is my friend. "I just wanna be famous" by puddle of mud
 
[quote name='neocisco']Papa Shango will come back. He will raise Andre the Giant from the dead. Andre will then summarily job to Cena. I have spoken.[/quote]

Pretty retarded thing to post right now :roll:


[quote name='ndshide']What song is this that is playing before like every break? "I just wanna be famous blah blah blah?"

n/m..google is my friend. "I just wanna be famous" by puddle of mud[/quote]

Who I'll be seeing this weekend in the best kind of show there is... a free show!
 
Post in here how they are...I think I heard they are coming somewhere around here, so if they are any good live maybe i'll check them out.
 
[quote name='Iron Clad Burrito']Indeed it is still the same... not so much when he's doing the DX routines w/Michaels, but as a solo, yeah, it's 2000 all over again. And it's the same song. I think he used Drowning Pool's version (from WWE Forceable Entry) for about 15 minutes one year, but it's back to Motorhead...[/quote]

Ah, awesome. I had that CD as well, but can't seem to find it. :whistle2:k
 
I like how the best actual wrestling matches will be for the ECW title now. Hell probably the most interesting matches as well.

Wonder who is next for Edge, what other faces are left on SD? Matt Hardy? That'd be interesting.
 
“Mick Foley didn’t make the belt famous, I did,” he told the Interactive Interview radio show. “Mick Foley didn’t make that belt famous. Mick Foley fell off the top of a cage. That’s what made him famous.”

Hoo-kay buddy, I'm coming out as a Cactus Jack mark here but before Crash Holly even set foot in an ECW ring, let alone a WWE ring, Foley had won the King of the Deathmatch tournament, had some good matches on Pay Per View with WCW, tore down the house in ECW numerous times, gotten his ear ripped off during a match and had an awesome feud with the Undertaker in WWF/E.

Crash Holly may be the one who made the WWE Hardcore Title famous but to say that Foley wasn't already on a higher plane than Crash Holly ever reached before he fell off/through the Hell in a Cell sounds pretty jealous.
 
How hard is it do you think for them to NOT mention Benoit? I can understand them not just coming out and talking about the events, but when calling matches and just...slipping up. I'd imagine it's like putting someone in a room with a lion and telling them to NOT think about the lion, ya know?
 
[quote name='Psykoboy2']How hard is it do you think for them to NOT mention Benoit? I can understand them not just coming out and talking about the events, but when calling matches and just...slipping up. I'd imagine it's like putting someone in a room with a lion and telling them to NOT think about the lion, ya know?[/quote]

:lol: That's a good (and very funny) analogy. I must agree though, this is going to be pretty tricky. There's going to be a lot of viewers checking in to see what all the hoopla is about too. Heck, look at how many non-regular wrestling topic posters showed up to post in the Benoit topic. WWE has a huge chance to turn this major negative into a positive by continuing to put out a good product (like they did tonight) and drawing in new viewers. Conversely if they slip up the media is going to be all on them like your lion in that room on a t-bone steak.
 
I hate that Nitro jobbed to Cena, but:

A: They lead with Cena to make fans happy
B: Showcased Nitro as new ECW Champ

The Punk/Burke match was good, but after watching the Benoit/Melenko match on the tribute show last night and seeing Punk/Burke do similar exchange with the near falls even trying to go to backslide was a little weird for me and made me feel like it was a shout out to Benoit.... I don't know maybe I'm looking into this way too deep.
 
[quote name='Psykoboy2']How hard is it do you think for them to NOT mention Benoit? I can understand them not just coming out and talking about the events, but when calling matches and just...slipping up. I'd imagine it's like putting someone in a room with a lion and telling them to NOT think about the lion, ya know?[/QUOTE]

Indeed, an unenviable task.

I kept noticing some middle-aged man was in the front row wearing a Benoit shirt (a rather nondescript tan shirt, but an older one that said "Crippler Crossface" on it); I couldn't help but keep looking at him, wondering what kind of fucking moron would wear a Benoit shirt to that event.

The answer, of course? *That* fucking moron.
 
[quote name='OnyxPrimal']The Punk/Burke match was good, but after watching the Benoit/Melenko match on the tribute show last night and seeing Punk/Burke do similar exchange with the near falls even trying to go to backslide was a little weird for me and made me feel like it was a shout out to Benoit.... I don't know maybe I'm looking into this way too deep.[/quote]

I thought the exact same thing. That was definitely an under-the-table tribute.
 
I'm guessing no one is really that eager to pick up a few of his moves, huh? I'm guessing they'll be retired for a good while.

No more flying headbutts, no more crossface (what was the name of it, technically?), no more 3-in-a-row suplex....what else did he have?
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']I thought the exact same thing. That was definitely an under-the-table tribute.[/QUOTE]

At the end, after he won, Punk seemed very distraught. He looked up at the ceiling and mouthed something, then with one finger, traced where a tear would run down his face. I thought that was his little tribute. The exchange of pinning combinations was less obvious to me than what he did at the end.
 
Triple German, Flying Headbutt and Crippler Crossface were his 3 big signature moves. He also did the Sharpshooter, but that can be used by anyone because you figure more that he was paying tribute to the Harts with that move.
 
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