The Ultimate 'Build-A-PC' Thread. Complete With Pricings & Recommendations (06/06/10)

[quote name='ExplodingRat']Ugh.

So the PC at www.woot.com today isn't that bad. It's equivalent in a few parts, lesser in some, luxuries of another, but comes with Windows installed, which also saves me a little.

Uuuuuugh.[/QUOTE]


That PC is ok. You would need to drop in a new PSU and GPU to make it a gaming machine.

Things you can't do with this PC.
1. Crossfire/SLI
2. Overclock the CPU
3. USB 3.0
4. Go over 16GB RAM (very unlikely)

Essentially your ability to upgrade is limited. If you are spending more than 2 years with this, you might want to spend the extra $ and build it yourself.
 
[quote name='ExplodingRat']Ugh.

So the PC at www.woot.com today isn't that bad. It's equivalent in a few parts, lesser in some, luxuries of another, but comes with Windows installed, which also saves me a little.

Uuuuuugh.[/QUOTE]

Skip it. $700 will buy you a much better machine.
 
[quote name='j-cart']Plus I use my PC as my media hub aswell. Thank you gfx card with 3 video outs :)[/QUOTE]

Do you have to change the signal to match the monitor/tv in use? I'd like to stream movies directly from my PC to tv.

Thanks!
 
[quote name='reddjoey']That PC is ok. You would need to drop in a new PSU and GPU to make it a gaming machine.

Things you can't do with this PC.
1. Crossfire/SLI
2. Overclock the CPU
3. USB 3.0
4. Go over 16GB RAM (very unlikely)

Essentially your ability to upgrade is limited. If you are spending more than 2 years with this, you might want to spend the extra $ and build it yourself.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='j-cart']Skip it. $700 will buy you a much better machine.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, after sleeping on it, there's just too many pieces that would need to be upgraded.

I think the only part I was looking at as a positive was the fact it came with Windows installed. I just hate how that has to be a $100 "part" to your PC. :( lol
 
Debating an 2500k over a 965BE...out of these motherboards, which would you recommend? I can get the 2500k for about 180 and would like to spend no more than $300 with tax (6% here)
 
[quote name='Nekopanchi2012']I need to know if the AMD 6850 will go into this system without upgrading anything else. Thanks guys.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229266[/QUOTE]

To answer your question, yes a 6850 will fit in there. The Motherboard doesn't support Crossfire, so if were thinking about doing that, it won't work.



You could build that for roughly the same price.

Here is "the same" build w/o the $20 DVD/R and $10 Mouse/KB (honestly it's as close as I can tell using their website and pics of the PC. The PSU and case are better though.)

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/raa

You would be better building your own. Here's the same build tweeked just a bit.

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/raj http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/reI

With this build you still need the DVD/R and KB/Mouse. You have room to upgrade down the road through Crossfire and the 2 empty RAM slots, you are all set to overclock the 2500K (that's why there is a $25 cooler added and the different motherboard) and you have your 6850 in there. You can edit the build if it's too pricey.

Hope that helps
 
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[quote name='reddjoey']To answer your question, yes a 6850 will fit in there. The Motherboard doesn't support Crossfire, so if were thinking about doing that, it won't work.



You could build that for roughly the same price.

Here is "the same" build w/o the $20 DVD/R and $10 Mouse/KB (honestly it's as close as I can tell using their website and pics of the PC. The PSU and case are better though.)

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/raa

You would be better building your own. Here's the same build tweeked just a bit.

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/raj

With this build you still need the DVD/R and KB/Mouse. You have room to upgrade down the road through Crossfire and the 2 empty RAM slots, you are all set to overclock the 2500K (that's why there is a $25 cooler added and the different motherboard) and you have your 6850 in there. You can edit the build if it's too pricey.

Hope that helps[/QUOTE]


One note about the second build, that motherboard has 1.5v slots for ram, and that ram you have is 1.65v. Not sure if that is a big deal, but when I built mine last week many people told me not to get that same ram because of that.

The motherboard had negative reviews on overclocking if that is something you were looking for as well.

Perhaps http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231308
 
[quote name='Bloodbooger']Do you have to change the signal to match the monitor/tv in use? I'd like to stream movies directly from my PC to tv.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Your PC will just match you TV's signal if you plug it in with HDMI. Use display fusion when you have multiple monitors to configure them properly.


v1et r1ce: if you can get a 2500k for the same price as a 965BE, then get the 2500k. Use that as the rule, since the 2500k is a much faster processor than the 965BE. The 965BE is still an awesome processor (I have the 975BE), it was just the cheaper of the two.
 
[quote name='Kaoz']One note about the second build, that motherboard has 1.5v slots for ram, and that ram you have is 1.65v. Not sure if that is a big deal, but when I built mine last week many people told me not to get that same ram because of that.

The motherboard had negative reviews on overclocking if that is something you were looking for as well.

Perhaps http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231308[/QUOTE]

Oops you are correct, you need 1.5V for a 2500K

On the motherboard: I missed the reviews, so good catch.

Here's a build that has some the correct RAM and another motherboard. It's P67 board, so no onboard video.

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/reI


It's really easy to edit the part lists, so I advise Neko (or anyone else) to do a little research and see what you can put together.


EDIT: You can also find Win7 cheaper if you are a student (or know a student who can buy it for you. Most towns have a community college full of kids who will sell you a product key for $10 profit)
 
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Anyone here have experience with SSDs? A friend of mine is building a new rig for me, and is putting a 60gb Corsair SSD in it. Anybody use one of these?
I also have a 500gb WD Blue for storage. Got a refurb unit at Fry's for $35.

I'd also like to ask - does anyone here have experience using an HDTV as a monitor? I'm debating between buying a nice 23" monitor or spending a couple hundred more for a 32" TV. It will be sitting on a desk for now (space permitting), but sometime in the next couple months I'll be looking at wall mounting options.

A few of the TVs I've been looking at:


LG 32" 1080p (This one, or its 720p cousin, are probably the front runners)
Panasonic Viera This one has cool internet features, but requires a $60 adaptor for wi-fi capability - lame.
Proscan This one supposedly has great picture but HORRIBLE sound. A classic tradeoff.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'll post full specs of the build in the next few days.
 
[quote name='reddjoey']Oops you are correct, you need 1.5V for a 2500K

On the motherboard: I missed the reviews, so good catch.

Here's a build that has some the correct RAM and another motherboard. It's P67 board, so no onboard video.

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/reI


It's really easy to edit the part lists, so I advise Neko (or anyone else) to do a little research and see what you can put together.


EDIT: You can also find Win7 cheaper if you are a student (or know a student who can buy it for you. Most towns have a community college full of kids who will sell you a product key for $10 profit)[/QUOTE]

Here is the one I built last week. Is a little more pricey (not a ton) and has no cooler (can always throw one in when I decide I need to overclock/SLI)

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/nYU/

Motherboard price (139.99 +7.99 shipping) isn't showing up on there, but here it is on newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...gabyte GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard

If I could do it again, I would definitely shell out for a modular power supply though.
 
[quote name='Kaoz']Here is the one I built last week. Is a little more pricey (not a ton) and has no cooler (can always throw one in when I decide I need to overclock/SLI)

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/nYU/

Motherboard price (139.99 +7.99 shipping) isn't showing up on there, but here it is on newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...gabyte GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard

If I could do it again, I would definitely shell out for a modular power supply though.[/QUOTE]

Looks good man. Funny thing is I thought I bought a modular PSU and was rather mad at myself when the non-modular one arrived, especially since the Antec 300 does cable management poorly. I'll pick one up soon when I change cases and add a better GPU (using a 6850 for the time being)
 
[quote name='j-cart']Your PC will just match you TV's signal if you plug it in with HDMI. Use display fusion when you have multiple monitors to configure them properly.


v1et r1ce: if you can get a 2500k for the same price as a 965BE, then get the 2500k. Use that as the rule, since the 2500k is a much faster processor than the 965BE. The 965BE is still an awesome processor (I have the 975BE), it was just the cheaper of the two.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I will most likely get the 2500k now. I just don't know which processor is best. I plan to crossfire 2 6950 2gbs in the future and run eyefinity. Also plan to oc the 2500k...
 
[quote name='Kaoz']Here is the one I built last week. Is a little more pricey (not a ton) and has no cooler (can always throw one in when I decide I need to overclock/SLI)

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/nYU/

Motherboard price (139.99 +7.99 shipping) isn't showing up on there, but here it is on newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...gabyte GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard

If I could do it again, I would definitely shell out for a modular power supply though.[/QUOTE]

Amazing, I have a very simular build I am thinking about,
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/sdm

The ram you are using, does it work well? How is your system for playing games on higher graphic settings? Also what do you think of your case? I would love to save money and yours is much cheaper.

I could use help picking out ram, I would prefer 1600 or so since the board can actually use it.

Also I think I need a disc drive to even install windows, any recommendations?

Thank you for the help, newbie here :)
 
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[quote name='smashtic']Amazing, I have a very simular build I am thinking about,
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/sdm

The ram you are using, does it work well? How is your system for playing games on higher graphic settings? Also what do you think of your case? I would love to save money and yours is much cheaper.

I could use help picking out ram, I would prefer 1600 or so since the board can actually use it.

Also I think I need a disc drive to even install windows, any recommendations?

Thank you for the help, newbie here :)[/QUOTE]


Windows 7 from a USB key
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/install-windows-7-with-a-usb-memory-key
 
[quote name='smashtic']Amazing, I have a very simular build I am thinking about,
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/sdm

The ram you are using, does it work well? How is your system for playing games on higher graphic settings? Also what do you think of your case? I would love to save money and yours is much cheaper.

I could use help picking out ram, I would prefer 1600 or so since the board can actually use it.

Also I think I need a disc drive to even install windows, any recommendations?

Thank you for the help, newbie here :)[/QUOTE]

The RAM seems great, when I used the memory checker it found no issues at all. I have been able to max every game I currently own (I would imagine the one with the highest requirements is Bad Company 2) and run them smoothly. I don't know what the best games to use as a standard are currently.

The main note about the case I used is the power supply mounts on the bottom, as opposed to the top. Has room for up to 6 fans (4 120 mm or smaller, 2 120 mm or 140mm).
 
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[quote name='Kaoz'] I don't know what the best games to use as a standard are currently.[/QUOTE]

The benchmark is Metro 2033. But if you can run BC2 (anything above 40+FPS), then you can run pretty much any PC game.
 
[quote name='j-cart']The benchmark is Metro 2033. But if you can run BC2 (anything above 40+FPS), then you can run pretty much any PC game.[/QUOTE]


Will have to check what my FPS are in game, but it feels smooth as hell so I imagine it is good. Will def lookout for Metro 2033, didn't know that it was the current benchmark (been wanting to play it also, so win/win)

I'm sure Battlefield 3 will be the new benchmark in a few months
 
I bet the new Metro game, Light Light or whatever, will be the definitive benchmark, even over BF3. If it's anything like Metro 2033 it will be a BITCH to run.
 
First time builder. Think im gonna really like this PC.
But Id like suggestions and feed back especially if anyone has had a bad experience with and components listed or non compadibility.

Thermaltake Chaser MK-I
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3
ZOTAC AMP! ZT-50204-10M GeForce GTX 570
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Acer S211HLbd 21.5'' 5ms LED-Backlight LCD
or
Asus ML228H 21.5
or
ASUS VE247H Black 23.6 really leaning towards the 2nd one listed
Rosewill RNX-G300LX Wireless Adapter Card
Rosewill Xtreme Series RX850-S-B 850W
 
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How exactly do you ground yourself when working on your computer? I've looked this question up on multiple sites, but all the suggestions seem to be contradictory.

Most people say that you leave your PSU plugged in but flip the switch to "off" if you have a grounded wall outlet... but what if you don't have a grounded wall outlet? What are some easy ways of grounding yourself?

Also I've read that you can ground yourself by touching the computer case (even if the PSU is unplugged from the wall outlet). Is this true?

I would really like to add a new graphics card, RAM, and new PSU... but am hesitant due to the fact that I am worried that I could zap one of the computer components.
 
[quote name='skateraXVIII']How exactly do you ground yourself when working on your computer? I've looked this question up on multiple sites, but all the suggestions seem to be contradictory.

Most people say that you leave your PSU plugged in but flip the switch to "off" if you have a grounded wall outlet... but what if you don't have a grounded wall outlet? What are some easy ways of grounding yourself?

Also I've read that you can ground yourself by touching the computer case (even if the PSU is unplugged from the wall outlet). Is this true?

I would really like to add a new graphics card, RAM, and new PSU... but am hesitant due to the fact that I am worried that I could zap one of the computer components.[/QUOTE]

http://youtu.be/d_56kyib-Ls?t=6m20s

Couple tips there.

Basically work on a non-conductive surface like a wood table, touch the a separate piece of metal to discharge yourself or use an ESD bracelet. I also unplug my PC (safety first) when I am doing work, and work on a my wood kitchen table. Oddly enough, I also put on shoes.
 
[quote name='j-cart']My god, you'll be creating a monster if you do such things :)

If it is in your price range go for the 2500k.

To give you perspective: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Core-i5-2500K-vs-Phenom-II-X4-975-BE-CPU-Review/1163/16[/QUOTE]

Speaking of creating a monster. The Gamer Xtreme 1314 is a "seriously" underrated rig IMO. Sandy Bridge 2500k, 8 gigs of RAM, and 6670 that really does exceed expectations. You get all that for $700. This is my first PC purchase in way too long. The last purchase i made was for a 1.67 core2duo Nvidia 7600 HP PAVILION notebook. it costed me 1700 dollars (years ago obviously)....... I was only about 16. I've learned a lot since then. To test out the power i tried recording video in 1080p, playing Portal 2 on high settings(not 1080p though), opening google chrome browsing JustinTV, and unzipping a winrar all at the same time. This rig just laughs at it.

The downsides are that the H61 motherboard won't let you overclock the 2500k. Which i find amusing.

The 6670 won't max out at 1080P, but honestly you can still get great looking visuals with tweaking.

no liquid cooling, because you can't overclock anyway.

I've already ordered the 6850. Which will allow me to nearly max out at 1080P.For probably quite awhile into the future. Someday i may see the point of having 16 gigs of RAM, overclocking, and Dual video cards, but i'm not there yet. This is enough for me.
 
[quote name='Nekopanchi2012']Speaking of creating a monster. The Gamer Xtreme 1314 is a "seriously" underrated rig IMO. Sandy Bridge 2500k, 8 gigs of RAM, and 6670 that really does exceed expectations. You get all that for $700. This is my first PC purchase in way too long. The last purchase i made was for a 1.67 core2duo Nvidia 7600 HP PAVILION notebook. it costed me 1700 dollars (years ago obviously)....... I was only about 16. I've learned a lot since then. To test out the power i tried recording video in 1080p, playing Portal 2 on high settings(not 1080p though), opening google chrome browsing JustinTV, and unzipping a winrar all at the same time. This rig just laughs at it.

The downsides are that the H61 motherboard won't let you overclock the 2500k. Which i find amusing.

The 6670 won't max out at 1080P, but honestly you can still get great looking visuals with tweaking.

no liquid cooling, because you can't overclock anyway.

I've already ordered the 6850. Which will allow me to nearly max out at 1080P.For probably quite awhile into the future. Someday i may see the point of having 16 gigs of RAM, overclocking, and Dual video cards, but i'm not there yet. This is enough for me.[/QUOTE]

If you are happy with it, that's all that matters.
 
The Gamer Xtreme 1314 is nice, but it is true that the mobo and the gfx card will be holding you back. I believe this is pre-made, so that is why there is price bump, but it isn't a bad first buy. With a 6850 you'll sport some nice PC graphics.
 
So, I haven't owned a PC Desktop since about 10 years ago ... looking to now pick one up that I can use for gaming (amongst other things) for sub 1000$. I have NO abilities with electronics and can't build one, etc. Does anyone have any current suggestions for the best deals and what I should focus on? A lot of the discussions in this thread go slightly beyond my technical knowledge. :( :eek:
 
[quote name='APreciousDragon']So, I haven't owned a PC Desktop since about 10 years ago ... looking to now pick one up that I can use for gaming (amongst other things) for sub 1000$. I have NO abilities with electronics and can't build one, etc. Does anyone have any current suggestions for the best deals and what I should focus on? A lot of the discussions in this thread go slightly beyond my technical knowledge. :( :eek:[/QUOTE]

Start researching.

Google these words and follow their links:

-Tom's Hardware
-HardOCP
-guru3d
-newegg
-tigerdirect

Just read during work, free time, etc at the current stuff and you'll learn about PC stuff in no time. Just associate PC specs as if they were cars, ie. Horse Power= CPU, Turbos/Super= GFX cards, Ram= Gearbox, Case= Chassis, and so on.

Everything has its positives and negatives. Also anything beyond a certain point is just for the small numbers, like how a Nissan GTR in a 80k car that put down a 3.5s 0-60 and a car three times the price, the Ferrari 458 Italia, can put down a 3.0s 0-60. The difference is so half a second, which is big, but 3.5 is till fast but a cheaper price. So think in terms of that.

Just research for now, you got plenty of time to buy a PC. Even if you have no knowledge on building one, it isn't hard and truly a unique experience that is only your own.
 
Thanks for the info! I've been googling computers and keep going back to Dell (where I got my last computer from just because it's easier!).

But I like the info you gave and will try out those stores! :)
 
[quote name='APreciousDragon']Thanks for the info! I've been googling computers and keep going back to Dell (where I got my last computer from just because it's easier!).

But I like the info you gave and will try out those stores! :)[/QUOTE]

There really isn't anything wrong with Dell if you're not planning on building your own. I have gone with Dell 3 times before building my most recent computer. Never really had any issues.
 
[quote name='ZForce915']There really isn't anything wrong with Dell if you're not planning on building your own. I have gone with Dell 3 times before building my most recent computer. Never really had any issues.[/QUOTE]

The only issues I have ever had with those types of PCs are when something breaks out of warranty and the shortcuts they take to bring the price down. In general repairing those machines is a pain-in-the-ass. For example, a family member's Dell needed the case fan replaced. The only case fan was also the CPU fan. To get to the fan I had to remove the tunnel that led to the fan. The tunnel had the heatsink permanently attached to it, which also removed the CPU from the socket. All of that to get to a case fan.
 
Put together my first build.

i5 2500k 3.3GHZ
Asus P8P67 Pro
Asus GTX 560 Ti
G.SKILL Ripjaws 8GB DDR3-1600
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD SATA
Corsair TX750 V2 750W Power Supply
 
[quote name='reddjoey']The only issues I have ever had with those types of PCs are when something breaks out of warranty and the shortcuts they take to bring the price down. In general repairing those machines is a pain-in-the-ass. For example, a family member's Dell needed the case fan replaced. The only case fan was also the CPU fan. To get to the fan I had to remove the tunnel that led to the fan. The tunnel had the heatsink permanently attached to it, which also removed the CPU from the socket. All of that to get to a case fan.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Dell used those blasted BTX cases for their desktops not too long ago. Not sure if they still use them though.
It's not really a bad design as far as cooling goes though (CPU gets fresh air first) but it is a bit more difficult to work with.

Just bought a 120mm Scythe fan to replace my LOUD AMD heatsink fan. All the reviews said it's whisper quiet, plus it has a 4 pin PWM connector so that will help cut down on the noise at idle. Now I just have to make a duct for it...
 
Can anyone explain to me what a card that is dual slot means? I plan on getting one of these cards now (either HIS or Sapphire) and one later (probably Flex) for crossfire:

HIS - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161372

Sapphire - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102945

Sapphire Flex - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102929

I have this motherboard:

MSI P67A-G43 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583

Will it be difficult to fit two of those three cards into that motherboard for crossfire?
 
[quote name='v1et r1ce']Can anyone explain to me what a card that is dual slot means? I plan on getting one of these cards now (either HIS or Sapphire) and one later (probably Flex) for crossfire:

HIS - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161372

Sapphire - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102945

Sapphire Flex - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102929

I have this motherboard:

MSI P67A-G43 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583

Will it be difficult to fit two of those three cards into that motherboard for crossfire?[/QUOTE]
Dual slot means it will take up the space of two slots in your case and covers two slots on your motherboard. So, if you have anything in the second PCIe X1 slot on your motherboard you will need to move it. When you get your second card, your second card will cover one of the PCI slots as well.

Hope that helps
 
Do you pay tax w/ TigerDirect, Newegg, Amazon? - I ask because if you want to go cheap, that is important.

What's your total budget? - You might be able to assemble some cheaper deals.
 
[quote name='reddjoey']Do you pay tax w/ TigerDirect, Newegg, Amazon? - I ask because if you want to go cheap, that is important.

What's your total budget? - You might be able to assemble some cheaper deals.[/QUOTE]
My total budget is around $750. I was thinking about just getting that because it has everything I need minus the a second case fan. Even if I do have to pay tax, I am supposed to pay tax on internet purchases anyway ;).

I could probably shop around and save a few bucks, but at the cost of ease, this works for me. I was just wanting to get a 2nd opinion hardware wise if it's good.
 
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[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']My total budget is around $750. I was thinking about just getting that because it has everything I need minus the a second case fan. Even if I do have to pay tax, I am supposed to pay tax on internet purchases anyway ;).

I could probably shop around and save a few bucks, but at the cost of ease, this works for me. I was just wanting to get a 2nd opinion hardware wise if it's good.[/QUOTE]

The RAM is 1.65V and Intel recommends 1.5V for SandyBridge setups. However, some people are doing that and not having problems

I think you could do better on the HDD.

The case is good for the price, but it's doesn't offer much as far as cable management.

The PSU is questionable. I would at least look for one 80 plus certified for efficiency.

Fans:

You will need a CPU cooler to overclock the 2500K (stock can do a mild overclock). Most people go with the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065.

If you don't want anything fancy here's a 4 pack of case fans for $15.
 
[quote name='reddjoey']Dual slot means it will take up the space of two slots in your case and covers two slots on your motherboard. So, if you have anything in the second PCIe X1 slot on your motherboard you will need to move it. When you get your second card, your second card will cover one of the PCI slots as well.

Hope that helps[/QUOTE]

Gotcha, thanks! Seems like itll be a tight fit depending how big the cards are
 
Any recommendation for a gaming monitor?

Tired of seeing jagged/tear lines when I play on my Acer screen bougtht at Walmart (1377*768 yikes). I'm looking for something within the $120-$150 that can have a 1920*1080 resolution.

Thanks!
 
Can't personally recommend any, since I've never had a full HD monitor. :(

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127436http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127436
Can anyone tell me if this will perform as good as my integrated Radeon HD 4250? It uses 256 MB of memory, which I would like to free up. I think my main concern would be the RAM clock, which is almost half that of my current memory (1333MHz DDR3.)
Also, I don't do much gaming, but I'd like it to play the games I have (Portal 2 is the most demanding one) at the same quality, will the memory speed hinder gaming performance?

Argh, nevermind, bought it anyway. If anything I can crossfire it and get at least better performance than I got from the onboard chip.
 
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hey guys, I bought an asus motherboard and was filing the rebate form. It says under where to mail the rebate to, (mustmatch billing address on invoice.) I used my sister-in-law's cause she had amazon card and wanted to give her the free points. My question is, do I have to put down her info to get the rebate? Thx guys and sorry if this is the wrong thread.
 
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