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Psyclerk those are some valid points but the problem with your statement is that microsoft does own Bungie so technically it's one or the other and it still technically goes to the higher ups at microsoft.
This guy was banned from Bungie.net - i'm just passing it on *SPOILER inside*
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Wshakspear
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IM enjoying the single player missions (minus the cut scenes...that pop-in is killer), and the only thought was that they had "4 people on Multi and the bulk of the team on single player"...well, i must say, they need to move those "4 people" onto single player levels for a while
Like I said before.. that Feb. 9th rumor.. it's entirely possible that Bungie had one huge game and decided (or maybe M$ decided) to split it into two games.. the latter half, the "apocalypse", being "Halo 3", for release on Feb. 9th.. I seriously doubt this is the case, but it's a possiblity. What else could the Feb. 9th mean.. if it's in there? From a marketing standpoint, it's brilliant. Spend three years making a huge game, cut it in two, sell two different products and double the profit.
hiccupleftovers
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Scorch, you got me thinking about that February 9th thing, maybe they are thinking of releasing a director's cut or something like that. I see it as very much being plausible.
It doesn't say Feb 9th 2005 according to what I've read, it just said Feb 9th, this could mean downloadable content, soundtrack vol. 2 or any number of things.
I was disappointed in Halo 2 the moment we left Earth (never to return, mind you!) I called it an expansion pack and I ranted on it in my blog thing and Halo 2 is an average game with some great multiplayer. I haven't been this let down by Bungie since Oni.
I was disappointed in Halo 2 the moment we left Earth (never to return, mind you!) I called it an expansion pack and I ranted on it in my blog thing and Halo 2 is an average game with some great multiplayer. I haven't been this let down by Bungie since Oni.
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Whine whine whine.. I think halo 2 has shown us who the true fans are and who the bandwagon hype-driven kiddies are.. Everybody built up these expectations for themselves about what the game was going to be.
The E3 Demo was a demo.. This guy talks about the expansive environment and sidestreets and all that.. I bet you anything that If you drove off of the path they planned for demoing the game for even a moment, you'd run into some kind of invisible wall or an area devoid of geometry. It was playable, but only Jason Jones was playing it, to show off what they had planned.
Besides, I think the game would have been much more boring if it was just "The covenant are here, blam blam blam blam blam blam kill all the covenant the end." Halo 2 has such diverse environments now.. people would just be complaining about repetition if it stayed on earth and all you did was kill waves of covie invaders..
Also if you had watched the DVD you would see that after the E3 demo, the creators realized something. They didn't have a game. They had an on-rails experience that lasted for about 8 min. They had physics systems and a game engine. This is when they really hammered out the story and figured out what they wanted to do and what they wanted to tell.
**Spoilers begin here**
This, I think is where the idea for having this game focus more on the covenant's story, because if you've read the books, there is quite a lot of history to them. The second book in the series is practically half written from covenant side of view. So for the fans, the arbiter missions weren't that big of a surprise, because the interest in the covenant's story isn't anything new.
Multiplayer is still lots and lots of fun, yes the game should have been longer, the abrupt ending is my only problem with it. But that is a pretty major problem. I also wish they would have tied ILB in with the game more. I was half expecting for the chief to run into Jan's band of 1.1s on the covenant homeworld.. but the most we get is a Hornet Emblem for multiplayer. Halo 2 is a great game.. I love it. It's too bad everyone has to be so cynical on anything popular these days..
The E3 Demo was a demo.. This guy talks about the expansive environment and sidestreets and all that.. I bet you anything that If you drove off of the path they planned for demoing the game for even a moment, you'd run into some kind of invisible wall or an area devoid of geometry. It was playable, but only Jason Jones was playing it, to show off what they had planned.
Besides, I think the game would have been much more boring if it was just "The covenant are here, blam blam blam blam blam blam kill all the covenant the end." Halo 2 has such diverse environments now.. people would just be complaining about repetition if it stayed on earth and all you did was kill waves of covie invaders..
Also if you had watched the DVD you would see that after the E3 demo, the creators realized something. They didn't have a game. They had an on-rails experience that lasted for about 8 min. They had physics systems and a game engine. This is when they really hammered out the story and figured out what they wanted to do and what they wanted to tell.
**Spoilers begin here**
This, I think is where the idea for having this game focus more on the covenant's story, because if you've read the books, there is quite a lot of history to them. The second book in the series is practically half written from covenant side of view. So for the fans, the arbiter missions weren't that big of a surprise, because the interest in the covenant's story isn't anything new.
Multiplayer is still lots and lots of fun, yes the game should have been longer, the abrupt ending is my only problem with it. But that is a pretty major problem. I also wish they would have tied ILB in with the game more. I was half expecting for the chief to run into Jan's band of 1.1s on the covenant homeworld.. but the most we get is a Hornet Emblem for multiplayer. Halo 2 is a great game.. I love it. It's too bad everyone has to be so cynical on anything popular these days..
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[quote name='greendj27'][quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='greendj27'][quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='greendj27']I don't know, I just don'y buy into conspiracy theories. This guy seems a little.......weird. Think about it, Bungie.net would ban this guy for posting this no matter what the game was like. He is ripping the company apart and then he reposted it. I would have banned him too.[/quote]
As long as he wasn't cussing or anything like that, you can't just ban someone and take away their freedom of speach. He has a right to say what he wants.[/quote]
So noone has ever gotten banned for saying something derogatory towards another person on a website? Or for making repeatedly annoying posts? It happens all the time. He can say what he wants, but Bungie does not have to allow him to post that at their website. Actually it might be classified as defamation on the posters part.[/quote]
So are you saying the whole point of a forum is to only voice positive things about the company or whoever owns it?
I realize that Bungie owns the forum and they can do as they please with the members who go there. It's one thing if you're flaming a fellow member or if you're just spamming up the boards. This guy had a real gripe that is pretty much the same as the majority of gamers out there.
Banning a guy for voicing his complaints about a game is extremely lame.
I think this guy hit a nerve with Bungie and they quickly wanted to take it down before too many people read it. I know of several companies that let negative comments stay on their forums, most notably Sega and Infinium Labs.
I definitely would like to know what really went on behind the scenes between Bungie and Microsoft, because how the storyline is going now it seems that there was a major overhaul in the story and the game in general.
I just smell fish that's all.[/quote]
I never said that forums should only have positive messages. My point was that Bungie had every right to ban the guy for posting very negative things about the company. It is their forum, and ultimately they can decide what stays and what goes.[/quote]
Very negative things about the company? All he said was he felt cheated out of the game he was led to believe he'd be getting when he paid $55.
I think we're all forgetting that we are Bungie's customers. One of their customers came to their site and voiced his opinions on the product he bought. The seller didn't like what their customer said and didn't want other perspective customers to see this so they took it down. Not only did they take it down, but they banned him from ever posting again.
Very, very lame move by Bungie.
This guy has some very legitimate points that he made.
Guys, I don't believe this is the same game that was shown to us at E3. The whole storyline has changed, levels have been taken out, vehicles have been cut and online multiplayer has been chopped too.
Have you guys ever noticed the option for co-op while playing Xbox Live? Once you press it, it gives you a message saying that you can't play co-op online, but why is there even the option to do so?
I'm not saying this game blows in anyway. No way, I still think this is one of the best games I've played in a long time, but at the same time, I don't think it's truly a sequel to Halo other than a few tweaks, another story and online play.
As long as he wasn't cussing or anything like that, you can't just ban someone and take away their freedom of speach. He has a right to say what he wants.[/quote]
So noone has ever gotten banned for saying something derogatory towards another person on a website? Or for making repeatedly annoying posts? It happens all the time. He can say what he wants, but Bungie does not have to allow him to post that at their website. Actually it might be classified as defamation on the posters part.[/quote]
So are you saying the whole point of a forum is to only voice positive things about the company or whoever owns it?
I realize that Bungie owns the forum and they can do as they please with the members who go there. It's one thing if you're flaming a fellow member or if you're just spamming up the boards. This guy had a real gripe that is pretty much the same as the majority of gamers out there.
Banning a guy for voicing his complaints about a game is extremely lame.
I think this guy hit a nerve with Bungie and they quickly wanted to take it down before too many people read it. I know of several companies that let negative comments stay on their forums, most notably Sega and Infinium Labs.
I definitely would like to know what really went on behind the scenes between Bungie and Microsoft, because how the storyline is going now it seems that there was a major overhaul in the story and the game in general.
I just smell fish that's all.[/quote]
I never said that forums should only have positive messages. My point was that Bungie had every right to ban the guy for posting very negative things about the company. It is their forum, and ultimately they can decide what stays and what goes.[/quote]
Very negative things about the company? All he said was he felt cheated out of the game he was led to believe he'd be getting when he paid $55.
I think we're all forgetting that we are Bungie's customers. One of their customers came to their site and voiced his opinions on the product he bought. The seller didn't like what their customer said and didn't want other perspective customers to see this so they took it down. Not only did they take it down, but they banned him from ever posting again.
Very, very lame move by Bungie.
This guy has some very legitimate points that he made.
Guys, I don't believe this is the same game that was shown to us at E3. The whole storyline has changed, levels have been taken out, vehicles have been cut and online multiplayer has been chopped too.
Have you guys ever noticed the option for co-op while playing Xbox Live? Once you press it, it gives you a message saying that you can't play co-op online, but why is there even the option to do so?
I'm not saying this game blows in anyway. No way, I still think this is one of the best games I've played in a long time, but at the same time, I don't think it's truly a sequel to Halo other than a few tweaks, another story and online play.
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[quote name='Scorch']Like I said.. it's quite possible that they just chopped the huge game into two parts and all the other stuff is on the next game, whenever that is.. I mean, makes sense, right? New style warthog, earth terrain.. makes sense to me, anyways..[/quote]
A la Kill Bill?
A la Kill Bill?
hutno
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[quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='greendj27'][quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='greendj27'][quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='greendj27']I don't know, I just don'y buy into conspiracy theories. This guy seems a little.......weird. Think about it, Bungie.net would ban this guy for posting this no matter what the game was like. He is ripping the company apart and then he reposted it. I would have banned him too.[/quote]
As long as he wasn't cussing or anything like that, you can't just ban someone and take away their freedom of speach. He has a right to say what he wants.[/quote]
So noone has ever gotten banned for saying something derogatory towards another person on a website? Or for making repeatedly annoying posts? It happens all the time. He can say what he wants, but Bungie does not have to allow him to post that at their website. Actually it might be classified as defamation on the posters part.[/quote]
So are you saying the whole point of a forum is to only voice positive things about the company or whoever owns it?
I realize that Bungie owns the forum and they can do as they please with the members who go there. It's one thing if you're flaming a fellow member or if you're just spamming up the boards. This guy had a real gripe that is pretty much the same as the majority of gamers out there.
Banning a guy for voicing his complaints about a game is extremely lame.
I think this guy hit a nerve with Bungie and they quickly wanted to take it down before too many people read it. I know of several companies that let negative comments stay on their forums, most notably Sega and Infinium Labs.
I definitely would like to know what really went on behind the scenes between Bungie and Microsoft, because how the storyline is going now it seems that there was a major overhaul in the story and the game in general.
I just smell fish that's all.[/quote]
I never said that forums should only have positive messages. My point was that Bungie had every right to ban the guy for posting very negative things about the company. It is their forum, and ultimately they can decide what stays and what goes.[/quote]
Very negative things about the company? All he said was he felt cheated out of the game he was led to believe he'd be getting when he paid $55.
I think we're all forgetting that we are Bungie's customers. One of their customers came to their site and voiced his opinions on the product he bought. The seller didn't like what their customer said and didn't want other perspective customers to see this so they took it down. Not only did they take it down, but they banned him from ever posting again.
Very, very lame move by Bungie.
This guy has some very legitimate points that he made.
Guys, I don't believe this is the same game that was shown to us at E3. The whole storyline has changed, levels have been taken out, vehicles have been cut and online multiplayer has been chopped too.
Have you guys ever noticed the option for co-op while playing Xbox Live? Once you press it, it gives you a message saying that you can't play co-op online, but why is there even the option to do so?
I'm not saying this game blows in anyway. No way, I still think this is one of the best games I've played in a long time, but at the same time, I don't think it's truly a sequel to Halo other than a few tweaks, another story and online play.[/quote]
Yeah my friend wanted to play co op with me online and I had to crush his hopes
As long as he wasn't cussing or anything like that, you can't just ban someone and take away their freedom of speach. He has a right to say what he wants.[/quote]
So noone has ever gotten banned for saying something derogatory towards another person on a website? Or for making repeatedly annoying posts? It happens all the time. He can say what he wants, but Bungie does not have to allow him to post that at their website. Actually it might be classified as defamation on the posters part.[/quote]
So are you saying the whole point of a forum is to only voice positive things about the company or whoever owns it?
I realize that Bungie owns the forum and they can do as they please with the members who go there. It's one thing if you're flaming a fellow member or if you're just spamming up the boards. This guy had a real gripe that is pretty much the same as the majority of gamers out there.
Banning a guy for voicing his complaints about a game is extremely lame.
I think this guy hit a nerve with Bungie and they quickly wanted to take it down before too many people read it. I know of several companies that let negative comments stay on their forums, most notably Sega and Infinium Labs.
I definitely would like to know what really went on behind the scenes between Bungie and Microsoft, because how the storyline is going now it seems that there was a major overhaul in the story and the game in general.
I just smell fish that's all.[/quote]
I never said that forums should only have positive messages. My point was that Bungie had every right to ban the guy for posting very negative things about the company. It is their forum, and ultimately they can decide what stays and what goes.[/quote]
Very negative things about the company? All he said was he felt cheated out of the game he was led to believe he'd be getting when he paid $55.
I think we're all forgetting that we are Bungie's customers. One of their customers came to their site and voiced his opinions on the product he bought. The seller didn't like what their customer said and didn't want other perspective customers to see this so they took it down. Not only did they take it down, but they banned him from ever posting again.
Very, very lame move by Bungie.
This guy has some very legitimate points that he made.
Guys, I don't believe this is the same game that was shown to us at E3. The whole storyline has changed, levels have been taken out, vehicles have been cut and online multiplayer has been chopped too.
Have you guys ever noticed the option for co-op while playing Xbox Live? Once you press it, it gives you a message saying that you can't play co-op online, but why is there even the option to do so?
I'm not saying this game blows in anyway. No way, I still think this is one of the best games I've played in a long time, but at the same time, I don't think it's truly a sequel to Halo other than a few tweaks, another story and online play.[/quote]
Yeah my friend wanted to play co op with me online and I had to crush his hopes
I don't have an xbox and haven't really played the single player yet. It seemed like it had potential, but after all this, its pretty dissapointing. At least multiplayer is still good, which is what I mostly play.
I honestly don't blame them for doing this. It was a smart move on their part. I'm sure they are using Halo 3 for an XBOX2 launch title. The thing that pisses me off is that they changed their plans half-way through. It wouldn't be bad if they were planning this all along but to mis-lead us with these trailers is just wrong.
I honestly don't blame them for doing this. It was a smart move on their part. I'm sure they are using Halo 3 for an XBOX2 launch title. The thing that pisses me off is that they changed their plans half-way through. It wouldn't be bad if they were planning this all along but to mis-lead us with these trailers is just wrong.
hiccupleftovers
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[quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='Scorch']Like I said.. it's quite possible that they just chopped the huge game into two parts and all the other stuff is on the next game, whenever that is.. I mean, makes sense, right? New style warthog, earth terrain.. makes sense to me, anyways..[/quote]
A la Kill Bill?[/quote]
Yup, that's what I was thinking earlier. A serialized version of the game. It would be a new precident I believe in the gaming industry. if they do pull this off than we will probably see every other developer cutting and slicing and dicing every game...
Also they shoul dhave stayed with the Earth concept. i believe that somebody posted that he thought it would be boring and just blam bam the covenant, well I think you are wrong. You are thinking very simplisticly. there are tons of story lines that they could have pulled in to make an awesome story. It could have even had the Flood involved. It would be something with the pyramids across the world that an ancient being has been left alone and has been hungering for some time. I'm not going to go more into detail but that's one idea they could have done if they had to brig back all three creatures.
A la Kill Bill?[/quote]
Yup, that's what I was thinking earlier. A serialized version of the game. It would be a new precident I believe in the gaming industry. if they do pull this off than we will probably see every other developer cutting and slicing and dicing every game...
Also they shoul dhave stayed with the Earth concept. i believe that somebody posted that he thought it would be boring and just blam bam the covenant, well I think you are wrong. You are thinking very simplisticly. there are tons of story lines that they could have pulled in to make an awesome story. It could have even had the Flood involved. It would be something with the pyramids across the world that an ancient being has been left alone and has been hungering for some time. I'm not going to go more into detail but that's one idea they could have done if they had to brig back all three creatures.
i bet bill gates is using the profits from Halo 2 to develope real life robotic Covenant... once he's done this and developed working covenant weapons, he'll then amass an army of around a billion covenant... then when the new ilovebees timer hits zero in the year 2552, he will unleash his army on earth and this will be Halo 3: the Appocolypse...
but in all reality he'll just release 4 or 5 of them, and send the rest of them to mars to fight.
but in all reality he'll just release 4 or 5 of them, and send the rest of them to mars to fight.
Wshakspear
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[quote name='hiccupleftovers'][quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='Scorch']Like I said.. it's quite possible that they just chopped the huge game into two parts and all the other stuff is on the next game, whenever that is.. I mean, makes sense, right? New style warthog, earth terrain.. makes sense to me, anyways..[/quote]
A la Kill Bill?[/quote]
Yup, that's what I was thinking earlier. A serialized version of the game. It would be a new precident I believe in the gaming industry. if they do pull this off than we will probably see every other developer cutting and slicing and dicing every game...[/quote]
It didnt work for .Hack, and it SHOULDNT work for anybody, at $50...but for Halo it would...argh
A la Kill Bill?[/quote]
Yup, that's what I was thinking earlier. A serialized version of the game. It would be a new precident I believe in the gaming industry. if they do pull this off than we will probably see every other developer cutting and slicing and dicing every game...[/quote]
It didnt work for .Hack, and it SHOULDNT work for anybody, at $50...but for Halo it would...argh
greendj27
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[quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='greendj27'][quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='greendj27'][quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='greendj27']I don't know, I just don'y buy into conspiracy theories. This guy seems a little.......weird. Think about it, Bungie.net would ban this guy for posting this no matter what the game was like. He is ripping the company apart and then he reposted it. I would have banned him too.[/quote]
As long as he wasn't cussing or anything like that, you can't just ban someone and take away their freedom of speach. He has a right to say what he wants.[/quote]
So noone has ever gotten banned for saying something derogatory towards another person on a website? Or for making repeatedly annoying posts? It happens all the time. He can say what he wants, but Bungie does not have to allow him to post that at their website. Actually it might be classified as defamation on the posters part.[/quote]
So are you saying the whole point of a forum is to only voice positive things about the company or whoever owns it?
I realize that Bungie owns the forum and they can do as they please with the members who go there. It's one thing if you're flaming a fellow member or if you're just spamming up the boards. This guy had a real gripe that is pretty much the same as the majority of gamers out there.
Banning a guy for voicing his complaints about a game is extremely lame.
I think this guy hit a nerve with Bungie and they quickly wanted to take it down before too many people read it. I know of several companies that let negative comments stay on their forums, most notably Sega and Infinium Labs.
I definitely would like to know what really went on behind the scenes between Bungie and Microsoft, because how the storyline is going now it seems that there was a major overhaul in the story and the game in general.
I just smell fish that's all.[/quote]
I never said that forums should only have positive messages. My point was that Bungie had every right to ban the guy for posting very negative things about the company. It is their forum, and ultimately they can decide what stays and what goes.[/quote]
Very negative things about the company? All he said was he felt cheated out of the game he was led to believe he'd be getting when he paid $55.
I think we're all forgetting that we are Bungie's customers. One of their customers came to their site and voiced his opinions on the product he bought. The seller didn't like what their customer said and didn't want other perspective customers to see this so they took it down. Not only did they take it down, but they banned him from ever posting again.
Very, very lame move by Bungie.
This guy has some very legitimate points that he made.
Guys, I don't believe this is the same game that was shown to us at E3. The whole storyline has changed, levels have been taken out, vehicles have been cut and online multiplayer has been chopped too.
Have you guys ever noticed the option for co-op while playing Xbox Live? Once you press it, it gives you a message saying that you can't play co-op online, but why is there even the option to do so?
I'm not saying this game blows in anyway. No way, I still think this is one of the best games I've played in a long time, but at the same time, I don't think it's truly a sequel to Halo other than a few tweaks, another story and online play.[/quote]
He basically accused Bungie and Microsoft of conspiring to screw over consumers. Just because he pointed out some differences from demos of the game and plans for the game does not mean there is some conspiracy between Microsoft and Bungie. Games change all the time and things are dropped from games all the time.
It's quite possible that Bungie made the changes because they liked the story better. The point is, none of us no why it was changed, and any guesses are just that.
As long as he wasn't cussing or anything like that, you can't just ban someone and take away their freedom of speach. He has a right to say what he wants.[/quote]
So noone has ever gotten banned for saying something derogatory towards another person on a website? Or for making repeatedly annoying posts? It happens all the time. He can say what he wants, but Bungie does not have to allow him to post that at their website. Actually it might be classified as defamation on the posters part.[/quote]
So are you saying the whole point of a forum is to only voice positive things about the company or whoever owns it?
I realize that Bungie owns the forum and they can do as they please with the members who go there. It's one thing if you're flaming a fellow member or if you're just spamming up the boards. This guy had a real gripe that is pretty much the same as the majority of gamers out there.
Banning a guy for voicing his complaints about a game is extremely lame.
I think this guy hit a nerve with Bungie and they quickly wanted to take it down before too many people read it. I know of several companies that let negative comments stay on their forums, most notably Sega and Infinium Labs.
I definitely would like to know what really went on behind the scenes between Bungie and Microsoft, because how the storyline is going now it seems that there was a major overhaul in the story and the game in general.
I just smell fish that's all.[/quote]
I never said that forums should only have positive messages. My point was that Bungie had every right to ban the guy for posting very negative things about the company. It is their forum, and ultimately they can decide what stays and what goes.[/quote]
Very negative things about the company? All he said was he felt cheated out of the game he was led to believe he'd be getting when he paid $55.
I think we're all forgetting that we are Bungie's customers. One of their customers came to their site and voiced his opinions on the product he bought. The seller didn't like what their customer said and didn't want other perspective customers to see this so they took it down. Not only did they take it down, but they banned him from ever posting again.
Very, very lame move by Bungie.
This guy has some very legitimate points that he made.
Guys, I don't believe this is the same game that was shown to us at E3. The whole storyline has changed, levels have been taken out, vehicles have been cut and online multiplayer has been chopped too.
Have you guys ever noticed the option for co-op while playing Xbox Live? Once you press it, it gives you a message saying that you can't play co-op online, but why is there even the option to do so?
I'm not saying this game blows in anyway. No way, I still think this is one of the best games I've played in a long time, but at the same time, I don't think it's truly a sequel to Halo other than a few tweaks, another story and online play.[/quote]
He basically accused Bungie and Microsoft of conspiring to screw over consumers. Just because he pointed out some differences from demos of the game and plans for the game does not mean there is some conspiracy between Microsoft and Bungie. Games change all the time and things are dropped from games all the time.
It's quite possible that Bungie made the changes because they liked the story better. The point is, none of us no why it was changed, and any guesses are just that.
Basically it sounds as if Bungie made a stament that was counter to the company's true plans.
Bungie: "Halo 2 is the last one"
Bill: "The HELL it is! You're messing with my lively hood bitch."
Bungie: "yess massuh, 'don hit us again we be good!"
Bill: "Excellent, now rewrite the story to set up 5 more sequels, And tell NO ONE! MUHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."
Bungie: "Halo 2 is the last one"
Bill: "The HELL it is! You're messing with my lively hood bitch."
Bungie: "yess massuh, 'don hit us again we be good!"
Bill: "Excellent, now rewrite the story to set up 5 more sequels, And tell NO ONE! MUHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."
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[quote name='Alpha2']Basically it sounds as if Bungie made a stament that was counter to the company's true plans.
Bungie: "Halo 2 is the last one"
Bill: "The HELL it is! You're messing with my lively hood bitch."
Bungie: "yess massuh, 'don hit us again we be good!"
Bill: "Excellent, now rewrite the story to set up 5 more sequels, And tell NO ONE! MUHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."[/quote]
Since MS owns Bungie, that may very well be the case.
Bungie: "Halo 2 is the last one"
Bill: "The HELL it is! You're messing with my lively hood bitch."
Bungie: "yess massuh, 'don hit us again we be good!"
Bill: "Excellent, now rewrite the story to set up 5 more sequels, And tell NO ONE! MUHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."[/quote]
Since MS owns Bungie, that may very well be the case.
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[quote name='smellhasreturned']i hate reading so i dont even know whats going on[/quote]
Not a very good combination for going to a message board, eh?
Not a very good combination for going to a message board, eh?
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What a whiny little bitch. One level was cut, a year and a half ago. Whats not to say the orginal concept was a much smaller campaign? What then? Oh, that's right, this is all speculation.
BTW the earth mission
ing rocked. Yeah, it wasn't the old "New Mombasa", but it was still one finely crafted level, especially the part and the end with the bridge, simply awesome.
BTW the earth mission
ing rocked. Yeah, it wasn't the old "New Mombasa", but it was still one finely crafted level, especially the part and the end with the bridge, simply awesome.who would have thought that developers would talk out of their ass so much when it comes to game features?
I remember all the hype about different vehicles, a snow warthog, etc.
It shows a pretty bad trend when two high ass profile games like Fable and Halo 2 can mislead or cut so many things in order to maintain a release date.
I remember all the hype about different vehicles, a snow warthog, etc.
It shows a pretty bad trend when two high ass profile games like Fable and Halo 2 can mislead or cut so many things in order to maintain a release date.
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[quote name='soulninja']who would have thought that developers would talk out of their ass so much when it comes to game features?
I remember all the hype about different vehicles, a snow warthog, etc.
It shows a pretty bad trend when two high ass profile games like Fable and Halo 2 can mislead or cut so many things in order to maintain a release date.[/quote]
here's the real problem. People put so much time into research and speculation on a game, that when a game comes out, EVEN IF ITSING BRILLIANT, they will piss all over it. It boggles my mind to no extent... Try going into a game without a pre-concieved notion.
I remember all the hype about different vehicles, a snow warthog, etc.
It shows a pretty bad trend when two high ass profile games like Fable and Halo 2 can mislead or cut so many things in order to maintain a release date.[/quote]
here's the real problem. People put so much time into research and speculation on a game, that when a game comes out, EVEN IF ITS
ING BRILLIANT, they will piss all over it. It boggles my mind to no extent... Try going into a game without a pre-concieved notion.I have a question though, how many levels did this have compared to the original (I understand they required you to go back to the begining after wprking your way to the end) because I get the impression from various comments that people arnt liking the length.
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Also they shoul dhave stayed with the Earth concept. i believe that somebody posted that he thought it would be boring and just blam bam the covenant, well I think you are wrong. You are thinking very simplisticly. there are tons of story lines that they could have pulled in to make an awesome story. It could have even had the Flood involved. It would be something with the pyramids across the world that an ancient being has been left alone and has been hungering for some time. I'm not going to go more into detail but that's one idea they could have done if they had to brig back all three creatures.[/quote]
So because they didn't go the story route that YOU predicted and YOU fashioned for yourself before the game came out based on nothing but wild speculation and hype, the game isn't good?
If you stay on earth and the covenant are there, what else is there to do but repel them? With your plot, the covies remain these faceless killing machines that really have no personality and nothing unique about them.
I don't know about you, but I was thrilled to watch the covenant go from the tightly bound religion to being torn asunder by the brute rebellion. It certainly wasn't what I was expecting. Fighting alongside hunters and elites, taking down an army of brutes and jackals was some of the most fun in the game, IMO.
Also they shoul dhave stayed with the Earth concept. i believe that somebody posted that he thought it would be boring and just blam bam the covenant, well I think you are wrong. You are thinking very simplisticly. there are tons of story lines that they could have pulled in to make an awesome story. It could have even had the Flood involved. It would be something with the pyramids across the world that an ancient being has been left alone and has been hungering for some time. I'm not going to go more into detail but that's one idea they could have done if they had to brig back all three creatures.[/quote]
So because they didn't go the story route that YOU predicted and YOU fashioned for yourself before the game came out based on nothing but wild speculation and hype, the game isn't good?
If you stay on earth and the covenant are there, what else is there to do but repel them? With your plot, the covies remain these faceless killing machines that really have no personality and nothing unique about them.
I don't know about you, but I was thrilled to watch the covenant go from the tightly bound religion to being torn asunder by the brute rebellion. It certainly wasn't what I was expecting. Fighting alongside hunters and elites, taking down an army of brutes and jackals was some of the most fun in the game, IMO.
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I don't have Halo2, nor an Xbox...but I can see why there were some people who were dissappointed with Halo2 now that I read the original post.
If they were given more time...I bet the game would be a whole lot better than it actually is...but that's just speculation.
But then again I don't care for it much since I dont have an Xbox.
If they were given more time...I bet the game would be a whole lot better than it actually is...but that's just speculation.
But then again I don't care for it much since I dont have an Xbox.
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I got the XBox for Halo 2, but only for the multiplayer portion. I never played Halo on XBox (only for an hour on the PC) so I have no clue what the storyline is about, and I don't care. But Halo 2 isnt the game I was hoping to be as far as multiplayer goes. Seriously, I think UT2K4 is more enjoyable. Halo 2 took away the freedom of multiplayer games.
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Yeah, I realized this the day I got the game. A let-down, but worth my $55 for the mulitplayer alone.
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[quote name='jer7583'][quote name='hiccupleftovers']
Also they shoul dhave stayed with the Earth concept. i believe that somebody posted that he thought it would be boring and just blam bam the covenant, well I think you are wrong. You are thinking very simplisticly. there are tons of story lines that they could have pulled in to make an awesome story. It could have even had the Flood involved. It would be something with the pyramids across the world that an ancient being has been left alone and has been hungering for some time. I'm not going to go more into detail but that's one idea they could have done if they had to brig back all three creatures.[/quote]
So because they didn't go the story route that YOU predicted and YOU fashioned for yourself before the game came out based on nothing but wild speculation and hype, the game isn't good?
If you stay on earth and the covenant are there, what else is there to do but repel them? With your plot, the covies remain these faceless killing machines that really have no personality and nothing unique about them.
I don't know about you, but I was thrilled to watch the covenant go from the tightly bound religion to being torn asunder by the brute rebellion. It certainly wasn't what I was expecting. Fighting alongside hunters and elites, taking down an army of brutes and jackals was some of the most fun in the game, IMO.[/quote]
I never said that because the game come out with a different story route that it would suck, but simply put, this is not what I told I would be expecting. I'm just going off of what I received and what was told to me was supposed to be given. I'm glad you found the filler that was the covenant missions fun. I found them to be very much like the first game's (343 guilty spark mission and the lirbrary) but instead of Master Chief they put some Elite covennant. You sir are truly not thinking out of the box. there are plenty of story lines that Bungie could have created that involved earth. Does the plot only have to involve the covenant, Humans, and the flood? there are many directions they could have gone and it seemed that they were taking those ideas and going in those directions, but after reading the OP, the story just seems to have been chopped up. The covenant's story line just seems like filler.
I have heard that the MP is amazing in the game for people with Live access and LAN parties but for the rest of us that wanted a good single player game, well, where is it is all I can say.
I'm glad you are happy with the finished product that after 3 years of developing you received but sadly I'm not for the money that I spent for this..
Also they shoul dhave stayed with the Earth concept. i believe that somebody posted that he thought it would be boring and just blam bam the covenant, well I think you are wrong. You are thinking very simplisticly. there are tons of story lines that they could have pulled in to make an awesome story. It could have even had the Flood involved. It would be something with the pyramids across the world that an ancient being has been left alone and has been hungering for some time. I'm not going to go more into detail but that's one idea they could have done if they had to brig back all three creatures.[/quote]
So because they didn't go the story route that YOU predicted and YOU fashioned for yourself before the game came out based on nothing but wild speculation and hype, the game isn't good?
If you stay on earth and the covenant are there, what else is there to do but repel them? With your plot, the covies remain these faceless killing machines that really have no personality and nothing unique about them.
I don't know about you, but I was thrilled to watch the covenant go from the tightly bound religion to being torn asunder by the brute rebellion. It certainly wasn't what I was expecting. Fighting alongside hunters and elites, taking down an army of brutes and jackals was some of the most fun in the game, IMO.[/quote]
I never said that because the game come out with a different story route that it would suck, but simply put, this is not what I told I would be expecting. I'm just going off of what I received and what was told to me was supposed to be given. I'm glad you found the filler that was the covenant missions fun. I found them to be very much like the first game's (343 guilty spark mission and the lirbrary) but instead of Master Chief they put some Elite covennant. You sir are truly not thinking out of the box. there are plenty of story lines that Bungie could have created that involved earth. Does the plot only have to involve the covenant, Humans, and the flood? there are many directions they could have gone and it seemed that they were taking those ideas and going in those directions, but after reading the OP, the story just seems to have been chopped up. The covenant's story line just seems like filler.
I have heard that the MP is amazing in the game for people with Live access and LAN parties but for the rest of us that wanted a good single player game, well, where is it is all I can say.
I'm glad you are happy with the finished product that after 3 years of developing you received but sadly I'm not for the money that I spent for this..
crazytalkx
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The single player campaign was dissapointing and the ending was a cliffhanger but like somebody else already posted, Star Wars did the same thing. I would be dissapointed If the series would've only been two games, but Halo 2 is worth the cash for the multiplayer and improved graphics. The campaign mode isn't by any means bad. Its better than most games out there.
manofpeace20
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[quote name='crazytalkx']The single player campaign was dissapointing and the ending was a cliffhanger but like somebody else already posted, Star Wars did the same thing. I would be dissapointed If the series would've only been two games, but Halo 2 is worth the cash for the multiplayer and improved graphics. The campaign mode isn't by any means bad. Its better than most games out there.[/quote]
The problem is that Bungie said they would stop after Halo 2. I could see a cliffhanger if they planned a trilogy, but its clear what is happening. Then again, I would have done the same thing if my game was going to make more than 125 million in a day.
Either way, nothing disguises the fact the single player mode is monotonous garbage, and the effort to "balance the field" by removing pistol power in multiplayer is negated by those one hit kill swords.
The problem is that Bungie said they would stop after Halo 2. I could see a cliffhanger if they planned a trilogy, but its clear what is happening. Then again, I would have done the same thing if my game was going to make more than 125 million in a day.
Either way, nothing disguises the fact the single player mode is monotonous garbage, and the effort to "balance the field" by removing pistol power in multiplayer is negated by those one hit kill swords.
[quote name='manofpeace20']Either way, nothing disguises the fact the single player mode is monotonous garbage[/quote]
No, it isn't. If you compare it to almost any FPS game that came out this year the story and gameplay are top notch. Would you prefer Doom 3, which is just a rehash of a previous Doom? Or Half-Life 2, which has a story that multiple reviews have called "disappointing"?
No, it isn't. EVERYONE had pistols in the first Halo, only ONE person can have the sword at a time in Halo 2. If you can't kill the guy with the sword, I'd say that's a problem with your skills, not the weapon itself.
No, it isn't. If you compare it to almost any FPS game that came out this year the story and gameplay are top notch. Would you prefer Doom 3, which is just a rehash of a previous Doom? Or Half-Life 2, which has a story that multiple reviews have called "disappointing"?
No, it isn't. EVERYONE had pistols in the first Halo, only ONE person can have the sword at a time in Halo 2. If you can't kill the guy with the sword, I'd say that's a problem with your skills, not the weapon itself.
Wshakspear
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[quote name='mmn'][quote name='manofpeace20']Either way, nothing disguises the fact the single player mode is monotonous garbage[/quote]
No, it isn't. If you compare it to almost any FPS game that came out this year the story and gameplay are top notch. Would you prefer Doom 3, which is just a rehash of a previous Doom? Or Half-Life 2, which has a story that multiple reviews have called "disappointing"? [/quote]
I disagree with both of you. Halo 2's single player is actually quite fun and engaging. Story wise, its intriging, and other than the ending, works well. Half-Life 2's story is a bit more open to interpretation than hand holding...you actualy have to figure out whats going on. Kinda fun so far. For a single player experience, right now HL2 wins hands down, but Halo 2 is still damn fun
No, it isn't. If you compare it to almost any FPS game that came out this year the story and gameplay are top notch. Would you prefer Doom 3, which is just a rehash of a previous Doom? Or Half-Life 2, which has a story that multiple reviews have called "disappointing"? [/quote]
I disagree with both of you. Halo 2's single player is actually quite fun and engaging. Story wise, its intriging, and other than the ending, works well. Half-Life 2's story is a bit more open to interpretation than hand holding...you actualy have to figure out whats going on. Kinda fun so far. For a single player experience, right now HL2 wins hands down, but Halo 2 is still damn fun
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[quote name='mmn'][quote name='manofpeace20']Either way, nothing disguises the fact the single player mode is monotonous garbage[/quote]
No, it isn't. If you compare it to almost any FPS game that came out this year the story and gameplay are top notch. Would you prefer Doom 3, which is just a rehash of a previous Doom? Or Half-Life 2, which has a story that multiple reviews have called "disappointing"? [/quote]
Doom sucked, and Half-life 2 was reviewed by PC game reviewers...they dont as easily get sucked into hype...Remember Halo got a 7.5 from multiple people and a lovely quote "This is the best Xbox has to offer??" Halo 1 was corridor hell, the spots in open land with soldiers were great, but the parts in corridors sucked, just as much as Doom 3. Half-Life 2 is amazing, the feel, the complexity, the puzzles, the fighting system...the only thing I dont like in HL2 so far is the 1st person driving...but I hate that in all games. Halo 2 was nothing like the hype, very disapointing.
[quote name='mmn'][quote name='manofpeace20']and the effort to "balance the field" by removing pistol power in multiplayer is negated by those one hit kill swords[/quote]
No, it isn't. EVERYONE had pistols in the first Halo, only ONE person can have the sword at a time in Halo 2. If you can't kill the guy with the sword, I'd say that's a problem with your skills, not the weapon itself.[/quote]
You're totally right here....so I agree with both and think both of you are dumbasses at the same time.
No, it isn't. If you compare it to almost any FPS game that came out this year the story and gameplay are top notch. Would you prefer Doom 3, which is just a rehash of a previous Doom? Or Half-Life 2, which has a story that multiple reviews have called "disappointing"? [/quote]
Doom sucked, and Half-life 2 was reviewed by PC game reviewers...they dont as easily get sucked into hype...Remember Halo got a 7.5 from multiple people and a lovely quote "This is the best Xbox has to offer??" Halo 1 was corridor hell, the spots in open land with soldiers were great, but the parts in corridors sucked, just as much as Doom 3. Half-Life 2 is amazing, the feel, the complexity, the puzzles, the fighting system...the only thing I dont like in HL2 so far is the 1st person driving...but I hate that in all games. Halo 2 was nothing like the hype, very disapointing.
[quote name='mmn'][quote name='manofpeace20']and the effort to "balance the field" by removing pistol power in multiplayer is negated by those one hit kill swords[/quote]
No, it isn't. EVERYONE had pistols in the first Halo, only ONE person can have the sword at a time in Halo 2. If you can't kill the guy with the sword, I'd say that's a problem with your skills, not the weapon itself.[/quote]
You're totally right here....so I agree with both and think both of you are dumbasses at the same time.
manofpeace20
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I really don't care if I am the only one that thinks single player is bad and adding swords unbalances multiplayer. You may say I suck as a player, which is amusing since I am actually good with the sword, yet I see what a mismatch it creates. And I really don't care for Half Life 2 or any of these other FPS that are being brought up. It just amuses me with all the hype and advancements in video game technology 2 little shooters on the N64 called Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are still the best hands down.
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The multiplayer cuold have been better, I just hope the next content download we get has the original blood gulch in it, It would perfect the multiplayer, maybe more skins, and a pistol. and btw the single player blows hard.
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After beating the game last night, I must say the storyline wasn't what I was expecting, but it was good as hell. Bravo Bungie for making one helluva game.
Can't wait for the next one!
Can't wait for the next one!
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Why is everyone so pissed about the pistol? They still have a pistol, it just sucks now. It should suck compared to other weapons. I mean, you could zoom with the OLD pistol, which seems kinda dumb to me. Maybe if the pistol had a scope....
come one people...
come one people...
Some people are just upset because they pumped this game up in their minds to a level that would be near impossible to reach.
So far, IMHO, I simply see Halo 2 as a good game, a good continuation, and an overall great FPS for a console FPS, with good multiplayer. It will sell XBox systems, but come on....there are people who would have bought this if Bungie employees simply took a dump in a metal box and squished it shut.
So far, IMHO, I simply see Halo 2 as a good game, a good continuation, and an overall great FPS for a console FPS, with good multiplayer. It will sell XBox systems, but come on....there are people who would have bought this if Bungie employees simply took a dump in a metal box and squished it shut.
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Since when is Halo 2 going to be the last Halo? Bungie would be insane to not put out Halo 3, or Halo 2.5, the sales were unheard of. That's like Rockstar stopping GTA.
Edit: Nevermind, I guess Bungie didn't plan on making Halo 3. I'm sure that's about to change though due to MS and a huge amount of sales.
Edit: Nevermind, I guess Bungie didn't plan on making Halo 3. I'm sure that's about to change though due to MS and a huge amount of sales.
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I never got into halo. The first one bored me. It was supposed to be alot better but than microsoft bough bungi. I really liked Marathon and Myth and Oni. I miis you Bungi. Where is the inovation and the "ing awsomeness".
ing awsomeness".
[quote name='Monsta Mack']Since when is Halo 2 going to be the last Halo? Bungie would be insane to not put out Halo 3, or Halo 2.5, the sales were unheard of. That's like Rockstar stopping GTA.
Edit: Nevermind, I guess Bungie didn't plan on making Halo 3. I'm sure that's about to change though due to MS and a huge amount of sales.[/quote]
its better to burn out than fade away...(unless there's money to be made)
Edit: Nevermind, I guess Bungie didn't plan on making Halo 3. I'm sure that's about to change though due to MS and a huge amount of sales.[/quote]
its better to burn out than fade away...(unless there's money to be made)
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[quote name='Monsta Mack']Since when is Halo 2 going to be the last Halo? Bungie would be insane to not put out Halo 3, or Halo 2.5, the sales were unheard of. That's like Rockstar stopping GTA.
Edit: Nevermind, I guess Bungie didn't plan on making Halo 3. I'm sure that's about to change though due to MS and a huge amount of sales.[/quote]
With the ending that we got, there has to be a sequel. Plus, Microsoft would be insane if they didn't put the whips to Bungie to start developing Halo 3 for Xbox 2.
Edit: Nevermind, I guess Bungie didn't plan on making Halo 3. I'm sure that's about to change though due to MS and a huge amount of sales.[/quote]
With the ending that we got, there has to be a sequel. Plus, Microsoft would be insane if they didn't put the whips to Bungie to start developing Halo 3 for Xbox 2.
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[quote name='zewone'][quote name='doubledown']Why is everyone so pissed about the pistol? They still have a pistol, it just sucks now. It should suck compared to other weapons. I mean, you could zoom with the OLD pistol, which seems kinda dumb to me. Maybe if the pistol had a scope....
come one people...[/quote]
The pistol from the first game did have a scope on it. They took it off and gave us the magnum.[/quote]
I guess I was implying if the magnum had a scope.....it was one of the best weapons in the first one, which seemed TOO powerful to me.
come one people...[/quote]
The pistol from the first game did have a scope on it. They took it off and gave us the magnum.[/quote]
I guess I was implying if the magnum had a scope.....it was one of the best weapons in the first one, which seemed TOO powerful to me.
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[quote name='doubledown'][quote name='zewone'][quote name='doubledown']Why is everyone so pissed about the pistol? They still have a pistol, it just sucks now. It should suck compared to other weapons. I mean, you could zoom with the OLD pistol, which seems kinda dumb to me. Maybe if the pistol had a scope....
come one people...[/quote]
The pistol from the first game did have a scope on it. They took it off and gave us the magnum.[/quote]
I guess I was implying if the magnum had a scope.....it was one of the best weapons in the first one, which seemed TOO powerful to me.[/quote]
Yeah but my personal hope was that they would keep the same controls and accuracy and transfer it over to the battle rifle ( which shoots burts and isnt nearly as accurate from distances)
come one people...[/quote]
The pistol from the first game did have a scope on it. They took it off and gave us the magnum.[/quote]
I guess I was implying if the magnum had a scope.....it was one of the best weapons in the first one, which seemed TOO powerful to me.[/quote]
Yeah but my personal hope was that they would keep the same controls and accuracy and transfer it over to the battle rifle ( which shoots burts and isnt nearly as accurate from distances)
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I just beat it last night. Extremely fun game, with an intereseting storyline, up until the ending. It just... ends.... I was very confused. If Bungie doesn't announce soon that they will have a new one coming out soon, I will cry. Good stuff overall though, especiallly multiplayer. THATS a good time.
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