To all the EA haters: EA Sports the #2 publisher in gaming, based on review scores

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In an interesting study a friend of mine did, he took the review scores of every publisher with 50 or more games, and found the average. Check out the list below:

Nintendo - 79.3
EA Sports - 78.3
Rockstar Games - 78.3
Square Enix - 76.6
Microsoft Game Studios - 76.4
Tecmo - 75.7
LucasArts - 74.9
EA Games - 74.4
Sierra Entertainment - 73.3
Sega - 73.1
SSI - 73.0
989 Sports - 72.7
Electronic Arts - 72.6
Capcom - 72.6
SCEA - 72.6
Activision - 71.7
Namco - 70.8
Gathering - 70.4
Eidos - 70.0
Interplay - 69.3
SNK - 69.3
Ubisoft - 68.6
Konami - 67.4
Midway - 67.0
Atari - 66.7
GT Interactive - 66.2
VU Games - 65.9
Bandai - 64.9
Mindscape - 63.1
Acclaim - 62.5
Majesco Games - 61.2
Crave - 60.7
Jaleco - 60.4
Take-Two Interactive - 60.0

So much for all your tools on the forums who are constantly crying and whining about how many bad games EA makes. How come Konami, and their 67.4 percent average review score ratio, isn't nealy as ragged on? Hypocrisy, ya say! EA Games is also at #8, ahead of NAMCO, Eidos, and Ubi Soft.

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If you make a Madden game and it gets an 8.0 the first year then only make cosmetic changes for the next 15 years it will stay at 8.0.

Wash, rinse, and repeat.
 
Ha, typical responses from the brainless EA haters. If that Madden comment were true, why did the 2006 version of Madden get an 85% review ratio, 5 points DOWN from the 2005 version?

06 IGN score: 8.8
05 IGN score: 9.5

06 GameSpot score: 9
05 GameSpot score: 8.2

Oh, and if EA could buy all their reviews, wouldn't you think they could have bought better scores than an 8.2 from GameSpot, or, in the case of their 360 games, way better scores?

Come on people, give it up. How many times do statistical facts need to prove your biased opinions wrong?
 
[quote name='munch']If you make a Madden game and it gets an 8.0 the first year then only make cosmetic changes for the next 15 years it will stay at 8.0.

Wash, rinse, and repeat.[/quote]
QFT.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']
Oh, and if EA could buy all their reviews, wouldn't you think they could have bought better scores than an 8.2 from GameSpot, or, in the case of their 360 games, way better scores?
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Wtf. That would wreck their 78.3 curve! Do the math, man!
 
[quote name='Strell']Wtf. That would wreck their 78.3 curve! Do the math, man![/QUOTE]

And that 78.3 curve is still better than fanboy love companies like SEGA, Konami, and Capcom. I guess when you're SEGA, you get a pass on releasing $hit like Shadow the Hedgehog. Shoot, if that game had an EA logo on the box, some of you fools would be storming the EA offices with lit torches and opened bibles.
 
[quote name='munch']If you make a Madden game and it gets an 8.0 the first year then only make cosmetic changes for the next 15 years it will stay at 8.0.

Wash, rinse, and repeat.[/quote] What changes would you make?
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Ha, typical responses from the brainless EA haters. If that Madden comment were true, why did the 2006 version of Madden get an 85% review ratio, 5 points DOWN from the 2005 version?

06 IGN score: 8.8
05 IGN score: 9.5

06 GameSpot score: 9
05 GameSpot score: 8.2

Oh, and if EA could buy all their reviews, wouldn't you think they could have bought better scores than an 8.2 from GameSpot, or, in the case of their 360 games, way better scores?

Come on people, give it up. How many times do statistical facts need to prove your biased opinions wrong?[/QUOTE]

There's no point. People have already made up their mind and nothing is going to change it.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']And that 78.3 curve is still better than fanboy love companies like SEGA, Konami, and Capcom. I guess when you're SEGA, you get a pass on releasing $hit like Shadow the Hedgehog. Shoot, if that game had an EA logo on the box, some of you fools would be storming the EA offices with lit torches and opened bibles.[/QUOTE]

I've never seen an EA apologist before. I think I've seen it all now!

And seriously, the only game EA put out that was really worth a damn this generation was Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath. Maybe Everything or Nothing.
 
[quote name='munch']I've never seen an EA apologist before. I think I've seen it all now!

And seriously, the only game EA put out that was really worth a damn this generation was Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath. Maybe Everything or Nothing.[/QUOTE]
What do you have against the Burnout games? What about Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield 2? I could go on and on...
 
[quote name='munch']I've never seen an EA apologist before. I think I've seen it all now!

And seriously, the only game EA put out that was really worth a damn this generation was Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath. Maybe Everything or Nothing.[/quote]

Def Jam: Fight For New York was outstanding.
 
I always thought the bigger problem with EA was that there wasn't any point to buying their iterative games. I've never really understood the EA hate, as I liked Madden... until I realized that there was no reason to pay $50 (or anything remotely near that) for Madden every year. The alternative was to get it cheap at the end of the season, but then the point of getting the new game (up to date rosters) was no longer relevant. So I haven't bought one since 03.
 
[quote name='botticus']I always thought the bigger problem with EA was that there wasn't any point to buying their iterative games. I've never really understood the EA hate, as I liked Madden... until I realized that there was no reason to pay $50 (or anything remotely near that) for Madden every year. The alternative was to get it cheap at the end of the season, but then the point of getting the new game (up to date rosters) was no longer relevant. So I haven't bought one since 03.[/quote]

The only problem I have is that people say that all EA games suck when it is obvious that they hav never played all or even most them.

Oh well, if NFL labor negotiations break down EA will have an exclusive license that means nothing in 2008. I'm sure some people will be giddy if that happens.
 
Weren't you complaining about the hypocrisy of game reviews in that thread about DQ8? Yet now they're valid when they support your arguement about EA?

Frankly review scores mean jack to me. If I don't enjoy a game, then I don't care if it got 10s across the board. I'll still think it sucks.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']What do you have against the Burnout games? What about Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield 2? I could go on and on...[/QUOTE]

I will give you the Burnout series, but that's about it.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']The only problem I have is that people say that all EA games suck when it is obvious that they hav never played all or even most them.

Oh well, if NFL labor negotiations break down EA will have an exclusive license that means nothing in 2008. I'm sure some people will be giddy if that happens.[/QUOTE]

:applause: Exactly, everyone gets into this blind EA hatred and its really asinine.
 
This list means nothing if every game made by EA Sports is included. Does the list include the three major iterations of Madden NFL '05 (for example Xbox, PS2, GCN)? If so, that just pads the score in EA Sports' favor, considering that almost all of their sports games hit every major console and generally get the same scores (give or take a point here and there).

I don't have a problem with EA or EA Sport's. Although EA does let a lot of major turds out there every once and a while.
 
well, i hate EA for a different reason. the folks at corporate inflated the price of the EA stock so they could sell off their OWN shares and get rich. now there's a class action suit against them, and the price of their stock dropped because of their fraud. i owned stock in those fuckers AND THEY fuckED ME PERSONALLY. fuck EA!!
 
I never really had the urge to get an ea game. Not that I hate their games but it doesn't peak my interest. The only games i've bought from ea in the last 3 years was freedom fighters, The third age, battle for middle earth and thats it. On the other hand from all the other publishers I have a bunch of them. IMO EA just releases one good game and then repeat the same game over and over.
 
*sigh* This again?

First off, reviews shouldn't hold but a tiny bit of importance to anyone outside of the industry. They are simply a tool helping you to decide whether or not a rent/purchase is worthwhile FOR YOU. Anyone who uses them other than a slight assistance in deciding whether or not a game fits their interest needs to check their head.

Secondly, who buys games based on the publisher alone? Fanboys. And as being a fanboy means you buy based on the maker and not the actual quality of the game, you too need a headcheck.

This is not to say that certain companies cant routinely produce great games and you can give them a bit more of a chance than you would other companies but you in no way should buy it for the maker.

Lastly, who gives a rip who makes "the best games." All I care about is somebody making a GREAT game that I want to own. If that's established the actual publisher is of ZERO importance.
 
[quote name='supadupacheap']
Secondly, who buys games based on the publisher alone? Fanboys. And as being a fanboy means you buy based on the maker and not the actual quality of the game, you too need a headcheck.
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Bethesda :p
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Bethesda :p[/QUOTE]
If and when they put out a major stinker, Ill be sure not to buy it.

Again, past performance does not indicate future success. Always invest with caution.

I will say though that Bethesda is a very "bullish" buy these days IMHO.:lol:
 
I've liked plenty of EA games (not EA Sports games) and I find that a lot of other companies that have lots of obsessed fanboys (Sega, Nintendo, Capcom, Konami) have made much more crap. While I don't think any EA games are particularly fantastic they have a lot of great games (Buffy, 007 EoN, Freedom Fighters, Burnout 3, Need for Speed Most Wanted, Timesplitters Future Perfect). And since they don't have anything fantastic, people tend not to notice the good games. While with companies like Nintendo & Capcom that have a fantastic game or two, they tend not to notice the bad games.

But, I tend to focus much more on Developers anyway (as everyone should).

EDIT: By the way, here's a list of my favorite companies (Developers in order).
Ubisoft Montreal
Rockstar North
LucasArts (largely because of older games, they don't develop much anymore)
The Collective
Naughty Dog Software
Rare (more because of the older games)
Nintendo EAD (the group behind most of Nintendo's greats)
Monolith Productions
HAL Laboratory
Io Interactive

EDIT 2: Additionaly people claim that EA does lots of rehashes. To the Capcom fans, what would you say they did with the Street Fighter series or Resident Evil Series (before 4). To Nintendo fans, they haven't had new ideas in years, they are still sticking to the same series without much gameplay changes (that includes your precious Twilight Princess).
 
Reality's Fringe said:
I think you guys are missing the most important fact regarding those averages. Nintendo is #1. Oh noes bitchez!
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Its a known fact that man gives free bjs at the offices of every major game review site/mag after every major nintendo title launch. Why do you think everybody is so excited about Zelda TP?

Sexual gratification > games, always.
 
[quote name='supadupacheap']If and when they put out a major stinker, Ill be sure not to buy it.

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Don't worry when EA buys them up they will, and then you can feel my pain.;)
 
[quote name='supadupacheap']Its a known fact that man gives free bjs at the offices of every major game review site/mag after every major nintendo title launch. Why do you think everybody is so excited about Zelda TP?

Sexual gratification > games, always.[/QUOTE]

Maybe, but it keeps him at #1!
 
EA has bought and killed many good game companies.

Theres to many to list. But any fan of PC games from the late 80's to mid 90's will agree with me.

Thats my reason for hating them at least.
 
[quote name='supadupacheap']So you gonna help him cut down on his workload this time out? ;)[/QUOTE]

Why must the internets always question ones sexual orientation? :cry: For the record, I reproduce asexually.
 
Reality's Fringe said:
Why must the internets always question ones sexual orientation? :cry: For the record, I reproduce asexually.
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You think the boys at Gamespot give a rats a$$ about how the king of the reach around reproduces? So long as you cant file a paternity suit against them, they dont care which way you swing. :lol:
 
Some EA games are great (ie. criterion and now timesplitters) or good, but i just don't like EA in general. I wish they would stop being "cool" and just make damn games that everyone can enjoy without having to sift through the "image" that they always try to represent.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']
So much for all your tools on the forums who are constantly crying and whining about how many bad games EA makes.QUOTE]

I have no problem with EA. I think that they sometimes since they are the best mainstream publisher. They make a game shitty and get away with it more then any other company. For example look at all of the sports games on the 360. Not counting FNR3. All of the reviews for EA's 360 sports games are 2 and 3 out of 5.
 
[quote name='PenguinMaster']EDIT 2: Additionaly people claim that EA does lots of rehashes. To the Capcom fans, what would you say they did with the Street Fighter series or Resident Evil Series (before 4). To Nintendo fans, they haven't had new ideas in years, they are still sticking to the same series without much gameplay changes (that includes your precious Twilight Princess).[/quote]


Pikmin, Nintendogs, Advance Wars, Wario Ware, Animal Crossing, Meteos....

At least the major rehashes like Zelda and Mario aren't roster updates and QB Vision.:roll:
 
[quote name='Kendal']Pikmin, Nintendogs, Advance Wars, Wario Ware, Animal Crossing, Meteos....

At least the major rehashes like Zelda and Mario aren't roster updates and QB Vision.:roll:[/QUOTE]
What's funny about Nintendo is that they actually do innovate with their series. People claim they do rehashes, but what games are they talking about? You take Zelda to Zelda II to Link to the Past to Ocarina of Time to Majora's (sp?) Mask to Wind Waker and you see these games are really not much alike. In fact, Nintendo has to be careful when they do crazy with innovation because people bash them for that. Zelda II, Majora's Mask, and Wind Waker were all bashed for not being like the others (time has shown them to be at least good games). People did the same when they changed Metroid to 3D. Mario 1, 2, and 3 are all pretty different. You could claim a rut with World, but then they did Yoshi's Island (different), and then did Mario 64. Sunshine was similar to 64, but then even it made you play in a unique manner.

I understand the complaint about it being the same franchises, but not about the games being the same.
 
i just buy whatever's fun




but i think the only reason i dislike EA is because of that piece of trash marvel nemesis game...

MARVEL, YOU WENT FROM CAPCOM VS. GAMES TO THIS SHIT? LAKSDJFOIAWEFWEFALKSJGADFCLOBBERINTIMERAGGHHHHH



.....we coulda had mvc3, dammit

dante vs. black panther

she hulk vs. linn kurosawa

VIEWTIFUL JOE VS. FIN FANG FOOM
 
So the end product has something to do with it all of a sudden?

I boycott EA and MS because of their business practices and/or their attitude/philsophy, it has very little to do with their actual products or the quality thereof. I assure you its a coincidence that both EA and MS havent actually published anything interesting to me. Coincidence. If a game is exceedingly good, people will tend to look the other way and deal with feeling dirty. I dont know how strong my convinction would be if they would actually test it by publishing a game I really want to play. As it stands, even if I didnt have beef with the company, I still wouldnt own any of their games anyway.

I'm sure Chick-Fila and Domino's Pizza are pretty tasty. However, thats not the issue at all.

Come to think of it. Boycotting ALMOST NEVER has anything to do with the end product. If you're buying what you think is good and not buying what you think sucks, you're not boycotting anything, you're just trying to be a good consumer, like everyone else.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']I'm sure Chick-Fila and Domino's Pizza are pretty tasty. However, thats not the issue at all.[/QUOTE]
Why do you boycott these two companies? I'm assuming it has something to do with their founders' religious beliefs?
 
Wow, that doesn't prove anything. Like someone else said, that score includes every console version of each of their games, therefore padding the score. Congratulations.
 
[quote name='elwood731']What's funny about Nintendo is that they actually do innovate with their series. People claim they do rehashes, but what games are they talking about? You take Zelda to Zelda II to Link to the Past to Ocarina of Time to Majora's (sp?) Mask to Wind Waker and you see these games are really not much alike. In fact, Nintendo has to be careful when they do crazy with innovation because people bash them for that. Zelda II, Majora's Mask, and Wind Waker were all bashed for not being like the others (time has shown them to be at least good games). People did the same when they changed Metroid to 3D. Mario 1, 2, and 3 are all pretty different. You could claim a rut with World, but then they did Yoshi's Island (different), and then did Mario 64. Sunshine was similar to 64, but then even it made you play in a unique manner.

I understand the complaint about it being the same franchises, but not about the games being the same.[/QUOTE]

You also forgot that the fanboys love to count, Mario Tennis/Strikers/Baseball/Golf/DDR as the same game. Even though they obviously arn't
 
It's always good, clean fun to make antagonistic flamebate topics.
 
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