To hell with Circuit City!!!! Went today and not 1 Xbox game was present!

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jgb0607

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I had it out with the Store manager and managed to get a $20 GC for my trouble.

It was sad! I was there at 11am with about 15 others and went straight to the bin to see maybe 15 games. Not 1 game was an xbox or PS2 game!

I understand the problem they had keeping the stock, but they should have done a better job pulling the games.

Bait and Switching is not an ethical way to do business.
 
My CC didn't have any XBox games either. Keep in mind that at your location all the PS2 or Xbox games could have been purchased already. While this is a nation wide clearance, the games available at each store varies greatly.
 
Can't say I'm surprised... everyone claiming restocks were going to happen everywhere (or even anywhere) were deluding themselves...
 
My CC had a few copies of Syberia and a few copies of Dead to Rights for the XBox, and that was it. The PS2 and GC fared even worse. Each had just one title in the pathetic little bin they had set up. Some racing game (I couldn't even find it on my list I printed off from this site) for the PS2 and WWE Wrestlemania 19 for the GC.
 
$20 GC? Wow, you must have done something that caught their attention. You do know that Circuit City has no duty to make games available since it is clearance sale. And the fact that they said 'titles vary by store' doesn't mean they have to hold any games at all. This is no way unethtical at all, the consumer should be aware that the stocking would be a problem. And as a member of CAG, you should have know CC's nationwide were picked clean a week ago
 
Yep. Hell, if they only had one copy of a clearence game, it wouldn't be a bait and switch. From all the reports I've read, they've had at least one or two titles around... it's people being whiny bitches because they couldn't get the games that they wanted and thought they deserved. It's all about greed and selfishness.

Circuit City isn't trying to put these games out with the intent not to sell them, or to use them to draw people in so they buy the games that are still 50 dollars. The fact that they've already sold through a great deal of them shows that. Just because the sale is advertised in the ad doesn't mean the sale didn't predate the ad, as is the case in this situation.
 
Our CC sucked. They had two tiny ass bins with only PSX and PS2 games in it. There were a bunch of other cheap ass gamers too and I think everyone was disappointed. I went to the shelves to get stuff on the list I found here and was disappointed to find all of them at full price.

It was overall, disappointing. Oh well, I went into this knowing I probably wouldn't get shit.
 
How long before people start claiming lawsuit time? We know it's gonna happen. My buddy said to give it a day or two before it happens...
 
[quote name='ex0']$20 GC for YOUR trouble? Oh dear poor you![/quote]

Shouldn't this post be titled, "Get pissed of at a CC Manager to get a $20 Gamecube?" :roll:

It is definitely not a bait-and-switch. I agree with what has been said above. Everyone just gets their hopes up in anticipation of an amazing deal. And when it comes crashing down, it is normal to get pissed. But you win some you lose some.. I completely missed the $5 Best Buy clearance except for Parappa the Rapper 2.
 
[quote name='LoganDX']How long before people start claiming lawsuit time? We know it's gonna happen. My buddy said to give it a day or two before it happens...[/quote]

They can claim them all they want. It won't fly.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/guides/baitads-gd.htm

(c) The failure to have available at all outlets listed in the advertisement a sufficient quantity of the advertised product to meet reasonably anticipated demands, unless the advertisement clearly and adequately discloses that supply is limited and/or the merchandise is available only at designated outlets,

Circuit City covered thier ass. I hope everyone enjoys wasting thier money retaining lawyers over a couple of missed 5 dollar games.
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='LoganDX']How long before people start claiming lawsuit time? We know it's gonna happen. My buddy said to give it a day or two before it happens...[/quote]

They can claim them all they want. It won't fly.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/guides/baitads-gd.htm

(c) The failure to have available at all outlets listed in the advertisement a sufficient quantity of the advertised product to meet reasonably anticipated demands, unless the advertisement clearly and adequately discloses that supply is limited and/or the merchandise is available only at designated outlets,

Circuit City covered thier ass. I hope everyone enjoys wasting thier money retaining lawyers over a couple of missed 5 dollar games.[/quote]


Eh, I hope someone wins something. I got plenty from the sale so I'm not complaining, but I have no love for the CC corporation. They leaked stuff early, I got in on that in time, but if you missed it because of their error, then I hope you do sue and win something.
 
You can't win when the corporation follows all of the set rules to the letter. It's against the spirit of the law. If a store wants to do a make good and offer something to pacify the customer, that's thier own call. But they don't have to.
Circuit City has met the standard. People can bitch all they want to, but that is all they can do.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']You can't win when the corporation follows all of the set rules to the letter. It's against the spirit of the law. If a store wants to do a make good and offer something to pacify the customer, that's thier own call. But they don't have to.
Circuit City has met the standard. People can bitch all they want to, but that is all they can do.[/quote]

Eh, like I said I don't really care, but I still hope someone sues and wins on some grounds. You pay enough for the right lawyer, they'll find something.
 
[quote name='Admiral Ackbar']Oh, Pikachu, what happeed to you? Plastic surgery gone horribly wrong...

But then again, ol' fish-face here doesn't have much to talk about.[/quote]

Are you referring to my avatar? It's definately not Pikachu. It's the cheat from www.homestarrunner.com. Check it out if you haven't been they have some very very funny stuff there.
 
I was lucky enough to get about 11 games I wanted last weekend from the noth CC.

However the south CC store employees pulled all the games last saturday, so no one got to pick'em clean. I was highley anticipating getting a few more games I was'nt able to get from the north store.
So I am there before they open with a few others get back there and what is sitting the poor sad excuse of a bin?? nothing but sports games(well they had a Ty for the PS2 but everything else was sports).
So what the hell happened to all the good games I watched them pull and would'nt let anyone buy?

That was complete shaq-fuing BULLSHIT.
 
this whole thread deserves a big "AAHHH poor babies". LOL If you didn't realized that there was going to be crap today, I feel sorry for you. Only a few stores had a chance to even pull a couple games for the upcoming sale so I knew it would very YMMV to get anything worthwhile. Restocking clearanced items just doesn't make any sense. CC just wanted to get rid of old stock. Plain and simple. Bait and switch is just talking nonsense. Read all the print next to it in the ad. Titles vary by store. Limited.

grab and pillow and cry away or you could be man/woman (nonsexist) enough to just wait until another sale or go buy it at full price.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']this whole thread deserves a big "AAHHH poor babies". LOL If you didn't realized that there was going to be crap today, I feel sorry for you. Only a few stores had a chance to even pull a couple games for the upcoming sale so I knew it would very YMMV to get anything worthwhile. Restocking clearanced items just doesn't make any sense. CC just wanted to get rid of old stock. Plain and simple. Bait and switch is just talking nonsense. Read all the print next to it in the ad. Titles vary by store. Limited.

grab and pillow and cry away or you could be man/woman (nonsexist) enough to just wait until another sale or go buy it at full price.[/quote]


When I stand there and watch the employees pull ALL the $5 games (yes ALL even the CRAPPY OLD SPORTS games) and refuse to let any customers buy them.
Your DAMN straight I expect those same F'n games to be put back out on the floor for the day of the sale, and not just the crappy sports games.

Your entire post is nothing but a whine in itself, so why the hell did you even post??
You don't like the topic don't read it. Plain and simple
 
Yep, GC is gift certificate.....

I still say it was a bait and switch. They pretty much admitted they made a mistake in not pulling the games. I also was not the only one to get a GC; There were probably 10 or so other people in the conversation/arguement and they all received the same thing. The fact is they had an ad in their flyer and did not honor it. There was literally 15 games in the bin and not 1 Xbox or PS2 game.

Again, I almost feel sorry for them, but they still should have done a better job in executing this sale.
 
[quote name='jimbodan'][quote name='Admiral Ackbar']Oh, Pikachu, what happeed to you? Plastic surgery gone horribly wrong...

But then again, ol' fish-face here doesn't have much to talk about.[/quote]

Are you referring to my avatar? It's definately not Pikachu. It's the cheat from www.homestarrunner.com. Check it out if you haven't been they have some very very funny stuff there.[/quote]

It's "The Cheat". Come on, give him the respect deserves. :wink: That site is the greatest. I hope they do commando figures.

My CC had some stuff but no restocks. I did pretty well so I have no complaints. I did see a few arguements with employees though, really sad. The only thing that bothered me was that the manager stopped me and another guy from buying more games on July 4 because the sale wasn't until the 11th. We only had like 5 games each when he had his employees start pulling all the games. Then it turns out he put them back out on July 5. I could have respected the decision to wait for the 11th but he didn't. Oh well,
 
Circuit city does engage in bait and switch advertising mainly to cost best buy money when they don't have items in stock. They advertise cds, dvds, etc. for a lower than normal price on the day of release and they end up having like 2 in stock on the day of release.

I swear to god that they stocked 1 copy of bad religion's:empire cd on the first day of release, and that's bait and switch. To advertise a cd and ship less than 10 of an item to a single store is the essential of bait and switch.

THEY WILL EVENTUALLY GET CAUGHT DOING THIS AND END UP PAYING HUGE FINES.

IF you advertise a price, that item has to be in stock in quantities of acceptable demand.

Ever seen Target advertise a dvd set and have a single copy in stock=bait and switch (but at least they offer rainchecks that will never be in stock :) ).
 
So here's the essential question:

Did any of the CC employees tell you to buy a more expensive game or did they just let you know the $4.99 games had been picked over?

Because if they aren't pushing the new products on you, or if they're not purposely OOS on a specific item, then you hardly have a claim for a bait and switch.

The low ordered CDs/DVDs might have an argument. But to say that they ran out of liquidated stock too soon does not constitute independently set up a bait and switch.
 
Honestly, if you guys were CC employees there is no way in hell you would not take them for yourselves.
 
[quote name='jgb0607']Yep, GC is gift certificate.....

I still say it was a bait and switch. They pretty much admitted they made a mistake in not pulling the games. I also was not the only one to get a GC; There were probably 10 or so other people in the conversation/arguement and they all received the same thing. The fact is they had an ad in their flyer and did not honor it. There was literally 15 games in the bin and not 1 Xbox or PS2 game.

Again, I almost feel sorry for them, but they still should have done a better job in executing this sale.[/quote]

They had the proper wording in the ads, as well as a reasonable amount of 5 dollar games... I can still go to 3 of the stores around me and find 5 dollar games. All of this is a tempest in a teapot because a few whiny children couldn't get Disgaea, Marvel vs Capcom, etc.
It will not ever bear out anything if someone tries to proclaim it bait and switch. It just doesn't live up to the requirements for a bait and switch, and showing Circuit City having intent (especially after moving thousands of units at 5 dollars) to do that would be difficult for even the best of lawyers.

It is not bait and switch. Insisting that it is only further shows that you don't know what the legal requirements to call something a "bait and switch" are.
 
Circuit city does engage in bait and switch advertising mainly to cost best buy money when they don't have items in stock. They advertise cds, dvds, etc. for a lower than normal price on the day of release and they end up having like 2 in stock on the day of release.

So long as the ad is properly worded, it isn't bait and switch.
The Circuit City ad specifically states that it is a clearence, that there is a limited supply that will vary by store, and that quantities are limited to the stock on hand. Circuit City is in the good on this one.

I swear to god that they stocked 1 copy of bad religion's:empire cd on the first day of release, and that's bait and switch. To advertise a cd and ship less than 10 of an item to a single store is the essential of bait and switch.

Not really. Haven't you ever seen the ads that specifically state the limited nature of the sale? You're example is a poor one anyways...
most sales aren't specifically limited to the release date, and so long as the store manages an acceptable quantity over the term of the entire sale, it's most definately not a bait and switch.

THEY WILL EVENTUALLY GET CAUGHT DOING THIS AND END UP PAYING HUGE FINES.

IF you advertise a price, that item has to be in stock in quantities of acceptable demand.

Unless you qualify for many of the exceptions to that stated clause that the FTC provides.


Ever seen Target advertise a dvd set and have a single copy in stock=bait and switch (but at least they offer rainchecks that will never be in stock :)

The more I read, the more I'm convinced that you don't know what you're talking about.
 
It strikes me as funny that people are talking about litigation when the level of sheer whining must have put a few of these folks on the hook for replacing some store windows after their hypersonic hissy fits shattered the panes.
 
[quote name='epobirs']It strikes me as funny that people are talking about litigation when the level of sheer whining must have put a few of these folks on the hook for replacing some store windows after their hypersonic hissy fits shattered the panes.[/quote]

LMAO!!!!

Well said.
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='jgb0607']Yep, GC is gift certificate.....

I still say it was a bait and switch. They pretty much admitted they made a mistake in not pulling the games. I also was not the only one to get a GC; There were probably 10 or so other people in the conversation/arguement and they all received the same thing. The fact is they had an ad in their flyer and did not honor it. There was literally 15 games in the bin and not 1 Xbox or PS2 game.

Again, I almost feel sorry for them, but they still should have done a better job in executing this sale.[/quote]

They had the proper wording in the ads, as well as a reasonable amount of 5 dollar games... I can still go to 3 of the stores around me and find 5 dollar games. All of this is a tempest in a teapot because a few whiny children couldn't get Disgaea, Marvel vs Capcom, etc.
It will not ever bear out anything if someone tries to proclaim it bait and switch. It just doesn't live up to the requirements for a bait and switch, and showing Circuit City having intent (especially after moving thousands of units at 5 dollars) to do that would be difficult for even the best of lawyers.

It is not bait and switch. Insisting that it is only further shows that you don't know what the legal requirements to call something a "bait and switch" are.[/quote]

15 games is not a reasonable number of games for this CC location, as it is a very busy store in a prime location. I'm not talking about legalities here; I'm just expressing my opinion. Fact is they had a corporate leak and did not respond in an expedient manner to fix the problem.
 
15 games is not a reasonable number of games for this CC location, as it is a very busy store in a prime location.

They don't have to have a reasonable number. The wording of the ad suggests the limited nature and limits the sale to supply on hand. The wording of the ad completely absolves them of any blame, making and claim of bait and switch on it's face false.

I'm not talking about legalities here; I'm just expressing my opinion. Fact is they had a corporate leak and did not respond in an expedient manner to fix the problem.


Your opinion throws out the term bait and switch, which no matter what you think, is a legal term and has conditions and exceptions to it.
Because of this, any possible value your opinion could have had is diminished and your argument moot, due to your misuse of a legal term.



Was the entire situation mishandled? Yes.
Was it a bait and switch? No.
Will I have to repeat myself yet again because there will be people that just don't listen and continue to throw around the term "bait and switch" willy-nilly? Definately.
 
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