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I can't believe the terrorist group, I forgot the name, wanted all their imprisoned men to be released for that one mans life.....it shows how desperate they are and they are a bunch of pathetic cowards
You're funny.
Saddam Hussein has always been our boy. He'd been working for us up until the gulf war since the early 1960's when we helped him organize the first Baathist coup overthrowing the Qassim government. Just ask Rummy, he met with Saddam on several occasions.
Try doing some reading that hasn't been stamped and approved by the right-wing media and maybe, just maybe, YOU will have a clue some day.
More significant than the threat of terror is the way the tragic events of 9/11 have been abused to create a state of widepread fear and misinformation. Afghanistan (you know, the place where the t3RR@h1zts!!! supposably came from) is falling to pieces right now, and we're busy securing oil wells and setting up shady deals for Halliburton in Iraq. The fact that you can just pretend none of this is true and you can believe that we're actually bringing democracy to Iraq out of the goodness of our hearts or that this is actually a mission of self-defense is a perfect example of just how stupid the majority of americans are and how far we've fallen as a nation.
The funny thing about people supporting Bush and his war on terror is that they are playing right into the terrorist hands. Terrorist love attention good or bad and thats exactly what Bush and the republicans are giving them.
You know what's sad about this, Bush stated strongly through this whole thing that "we do not negotiate with terrorists" leaving this man to die over there, he pretty much told the family of this guy "To bad, guess you have a dead family member"
abates17 wrote:
After all, why would we go into another country just to bring democracy to its citizens and overthrow an evil dictator?
You call him "evil" yet you admit that we created him.
Good job.
abates17 wrote:
Oh yes, I'm sure we've been securing oil wells like crazy over there!
Ummm, yes. One of the first things we did in Iraq was secure their oil wells, and the first thing we did upon entering Baghdad was secure the Ministry of Oil (while mysteriously ignoring the other major government offices.)
You see.... sarcasm doesn't work when what you're talking about actually happened.
So the United Nations is worthless, we don't need to follow their edicts (like when they voted AGAINST WAR with Iraq) but our highest national priority is upholding UN resolutions? Uhhhhhhh, yeah. You have to believe that to be a Republican today.
Good luck with that hypocrisy.
Last I checked the burden of proof lies on the person making the claims.
The Bush administration said there were nuclear weapons programs and massive stockpiles of chemical weapons in Iraq. We've found shaq-fu all. That is called PROOF that Bush LIED his ass off, along with Colin Powell and the rest of his filthy administration.
First of all, I don't watch CNN (or any cable news for that matter), so we can wipe away all of your idiotic comments about that. Nor is CNN a "left" outfit as ditto-heads like to paint it, because anything left of Fox News that doesn't bow down and kiss Bushs ass on a regular basis is considered an evil, communist, traitor news operation by you idiots... but that's another debate altogether.
You're assuming he didn't and ignoring the evidence to the contrary. The CIA met with Saddam Hussein many times before the Qassim government fell. Do your homework.
I wasn't talking about the current physical state of Afghanistan, I'm talking about how we've diverted so many resources to Iraq that we currently don't have the manpower to save Afghanistan. It's turning into a trainwreck as the Taliban run rampant, poppy production has doubled, and Hamid Kharzai makes as many trips out of state as humanly possible just to avoid being killed. Again, do your homework.
1. Nothing was found.
2. It has been disclosed in several books from defectors of the insane Bush Administration that the intelligence wasn't given, it was ASKED FOR. Bush decided on a course of action and then demanded the "facts" to back up that action. But I suppose you're buying the bullshit story that they were all just "bitter ex-employees" right? Uh huh.
You have no argument, so you imply that a Democrat in office would've done NOTHING at all because that's the only conceivable way a leader could be doing worse than George DUBYA Bush, and even that is questionable.
The funny thing about people supporting Bush and his war on terror is that they are playing right into the terrorist hands. Terrorist love attention good or bad and thats exactly what Bush and the republicans are giving them.
Nope, not for us, because we're getting the oil one way or another. We're going to squeeze them like hell after this for the cheapest, dirtiest blood oil we've ever gotten.
Thank you for proving that today.
And also, thank you for being a hypocrite.
where are you getting all of these facts from? from the way you talk, you live in afghanistan and you're witnessing these things first hand.
i believe the only think i called you was a smartass? and thats because i was mocking the way you called names to strengthen your argument. Nice try though
Cracka you need to get a life or a clue. Your way to emotional about this stuff. Thats why having a Republican at the controls scares me. Give me a good old boy from Arkansas anyday over some idiot cowboy from Texas with a "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" bumper sticker.
All of these claims have been debunked. There is no credible proof now that Saddam had any link to the 9/11 attacks at all. If there were, the Bush administration would be shouting it from the rooftops to save their asses.
I haven't read anything convincing about Saddam and Al Quada being in "cohoots". Saddam was a secular ruler and Al Quada are a group of religious extremists, they have nothing in common. The rampant speculation of them having anything to do with each other is just more fodder for the cover story.
If you don't understand how the perpetuation of an international drug trade is going to continue to harm the country (and other nations for that matter) you could really stand to take a course in geopolitics.
You're assuming their were weapons to begin with. The weapons inspectors found nothing time and again, and the Bush Administration initiated its unilateral war before they could make their final inspection and report. Why do you think that is?
The possibility that the chemical weapons were destroyed in the mid-90s just completely flies over your head since you've been told again and again what an "evil-doer" he is, and how he gassed people (with the weapons we gave him) even though the pictures you've seen could just as easily be Iranians as Kurds.
The truth of the matter is you don't know a goddam thing, and you don't want to know. You're just another clueless, gung-ho war supporter who's ready to go along with whatever President Cowboy and his thugs want to do because it makes you feel empowered.
Not just attention, and not just "terrorists". We are giving the entire arab world a reason to hate us as we slaughter innocents in an undefined war against an abstract enemy that is based solely on labels and assumptions. We throw around the word "terror" now like we do "freedom" and the significance of that doesn't even occur to you.
If Saddam was such a tyrant and life in Iraq so unbearable, they wouldnt have put up with his rule for 30 years. When governments become too oppressive, people rise up and overthrow those governments, like we did 230 years ago.
Actually no, you also called me a dumbass. So once again.... good job hypocrite.
I don't need name calling to "strengthen my argument", it's simply a manifestation of my frustration at being surrounded by brain-dead republican jerkoffs. It is appalling to me that so many people who share my favorite hobby have drank the koolaid.
We need an intelligent strategy to deal with terrorism, a real coalition of nations with real goals. A real task force to deal with the problem instead of just using a conventional military to invade nations where supposably they've been or there might be activity.
Any of this sending off that part of the brain that says "wow, thats rational!!!"? No? Didn't think so.
Cracka wrote:
and you are assuming that there werent weapons..
No, I'm not. I don't need to assume there were no weapons to justify inaction or a different course of action. YOU have to assume there were weapons in order to justify action. As I said earlier, the burden of proof lies on the person making the claim.
That logic seems to escape republicans.... somehow.
You're seeing what they want you to see. You have no way of verifying those videos are actually from the time and place they claim or the events they're citing. Why do you think they're trying to shock you with these things? To get you to install another flag on your porch? To join the army? Couldn't be to scare the shit out of you so you blindly support whatever hair-brain thing the Bush administration decides to do..... nah.
Sign me up for the GOP and PNAC newsletters, I want to be "right" like you.
Revolution is never easy, and I never suggested it was. Nor did I suggest that a ruler can't be horrible dictator with the complicity of his own people (look at our country today for example), as usual you're just making assumptions about what I said instead of actually analyzing it.
I'd wager to guess I read more news in a day then you do in a week.
And I don't need to think up new ways to call Republicans stupid, the good ole plain way works fine.
Live in ignorance, I really don't care. I'm not trying to change your mind or the minds of any of the other brainwashed here at CAG. I'm just making an example of you. The more I do this, the more everyone sees that you punks are nothing but posturing and flag waving.
All of these claims have been debunked. There is no credible proof now that Saddam had any link to the 9/11 attacks at all. If there were, the Bush administration would be shouting it from the rooftops to save their asses.
But U.S. officials and a leading Iraqi document expert tell NEWSWEEK that the document is most likely a forgery—part of a thriving new trade in dubious Iraqi documents that has cropped up in the wake of the collapse of Saddam's regime.
"It's a lucrative business," says Hassan Mneimneh, codirector of an Iraqi exile research group reviewing millions of captured Iraqi government documents. "There's an active document trade taking place … You have fraudulent documents that are being fabricated and sold" for hundreds of dollars a piece.
Just for the record i WISH Kerry would win and then fukk everything up just so i could laugh at all of you who support him.
All of these claims have been debunked. There is no credible proof now that Saddam had any link to the 9/11 attacks at all. If there were, the Bush administration would be shouting it from the rooftops to save their asses.