UFC 2009: Undisputed - General Discussion and Info - Releases 5/19

I -almost- bought it tonight. Gamestop had it out early, but I'm a little low on funds at the moment. Maybe I'll go dump some games towards the purchase of it in a few days.
 
got my copy today, and so far I am loving it. I wish there was a custom ring entrance option. It would have been cool to import your entrance music, and walk out to it.
 
Three of the Gamestop's in the area are selling it early - they've got a PS3 demo station running the game too, and there was a crowd waiting to test it out.
 
Odd. Gamestop has midnight release for it. Pretty crazy they broke street.

I wish mine would. Then again, I can handle a few more days.

I loved the demo, but Im loving the FN4 demo too, I wonder how the longevity of this will hold up.
 
I wish my PlaynTrade would break Street date. :(

I even checked Wal-mart and only thing they had was the Terminator Salvation game which I don't think comes out till Tuesday but no UFC.
 
[quote name='archibishopthedoge']You wouldnt of been able to get it at Walmart anyway with their annoying computer.[/QUOTE]

I saw a couple people walk out with there copies. Computers gave them no problems at all. And if they did then they used that old "Well then it shouldn't be out on the sales floor" Speech to the Manager more than likely. Meh, it's almost Tuesday. I wish there was a midnight release here.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Thanks for making people aware of that while I've been gone man! I can't believe people are getting this game early. Nothing like getting a head start in a game with complex controls...


Assholes...lol ;)[/QUOTE]


Psshh, no Problem Nate. You know how I do when your not around ;)
 
man the career mode is brutal. I started out 6-0 then the past three fights I got ko'ed, submitted, and ko'ed again. This is on normal difficulty by the way.
 
[quote name='DT778']There is a create-a-fighter mode that lets you make dudes and use them right away in exhibition and online.[/QUOTE]

How are the attributes distributed? Can you max guys out or do the fighters start out sucky and improve as you use them online? This is critical information to the way CAGFC will function.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']How are the attributes distributed? Can you max guys out or do the fighters start out sucky and improve as you use them online? This is critical information to the way CAGFC will function.[/QUOTE]

I think if you want to immediately bring a CAF online or into exhibition mode his stats will max out at 75%. Otherwise you can fully train him through the career mode then retire him when his stats are full.

I'm too lazy to find a link :whistle2:#
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']How are the attributes distributed? Can you max guys out or do the fighters start out sucky and improve as you use them online? This is critical information to the way CAGFC will function.[/QUOTE]You get a certain number of points to allocate wherever you want. But you can't max them out, their overall is around the late 70's. They don't improve. The only way to make a great created fighter, over time, is to make one in career mode.
 
[quote name='DT778']You get a certain number of points to allocate wherever you want. But you can't max them out, their overall is around the late 70's. They don't improve. The only way to make a great created fighter, over time, is to make one in career mode.[/QUOTE]

Hmm..ok. Thanks for giving that info guys. CAGFC is right around the corner!

EDIT - Actually, that made me think of an even better question. Are the only options for bringing a CAF online at the beginning when you first create him (when his rating is in the upper 70s) and at the end when you retire him? (after his ratings has drastically gone up) Or, can you "export" your CAF from career mode at any time...say, after a couple fights when he's ranked up to the mid 80s?

What I'm thinking is if that were possible, we could use CAFs right away, and it would work as though they were "improving" as we went along. That would allow for the people who "trained" more (ie. played more career mode) to have an advantage over guys who aren't putting the time into the game (as it should be). It might be a longshot, but just something I thought of.
 
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[quote name='n8rockerasu']Hmm..ok. Thanks for giving that info guys. CAGFC is right around the corner![/QUOTE]

Not soon enough!! Can't wait to play others. I fear though being able to beat the demo on expert will mean nothing when playing against a human opponent.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Hmm..ok. Thanks for giving that info guys. CAGFC is right around the corner!

EDIT - Actually, that made me think of an even better question. Are the only options for bringing a CAF online at the beginning when you first create him (when his rating is in the upper 70s) and at the end when you retire him? (after his ratings has drastically gone up) Or, can you "export" your CAF from career mode at any time...say, after a couple fights when he's ranked up to the mid 80s?

What I'm thinking is if that were possible, we could use CAFs right away, and it would work as though they were "improving" as we went along. That would allow for the people who "trained" more (ie. played more career mode) to have an advantage over guys who aren't putting the time into the game (as it should be). It might be a longshot, but just something I thought of.[/QUOTE]
It is also worth pointing out that you can retire a fighter at any time from a Career Mode playthrough. If for some reason you do not want to complete an entire Career Mode, you have the option of ending it at any point without losing the progress made on your created fighter.
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From THQ
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Hmm..ok. Thanks for giving that info guys. CAGFC is right around the corner!

EDIT - Actually, that made me think of an even better question. Are the only options for bringing a CAF online at the beginning when you first create him (when his rating is in the upper 70s) and at the end when you retire him? (after his ratings has drastically gone up) Or, can you "export" your CAF from career mode at any time...say, after a couple fights when he's ranked up to the mid 80s?

What I'm thinking is if that were possible, we could use CAFs right away, and it would work as though they were "improving" as we went along. That would allow for the people who "trained" more (ie. played more career mode) to have an advantage over guys who aren't putting the time into the game (as it should be). It might be a longshot, but just something I thought of.[/QUOTE]Create-a-fighter and career mode are two separate things. When you start in career mode your dude has an overall in the 20's.

Also created fighters in career mode can be used online right away. No need to retire. And what you name him is shown online, just throwing that out there for peeps that care if peeps on Live know their real name.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Terminator is also due out Tuesday. It had co-op over Live/PSN! I didn't realize that.[/QUOTE]
Better not tell your customers that, seeing as how it doesn't.
 
[quote name='primetime']From THQ[/QUOTE]

[quote name='DT778']Create-a-fighter and career mode are two separate things. When you start in career mode your dude has an overall in the 20's.

Also created fighters in career mode can be used online right away. No need to retire. And what you name him is shown online, just throwing that out there for peeps that care if peeps on Live know their real name.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I figured they would be two separate modes. But if your career CAF is available for online play as soon as you create him, do his ratings stay in the 20s or do they improve as your career improves?

If what primetime quoted is true, and you can retire your guy at any time (thus making him available for online play), without it screwing up your career, my thoughts for CAGFC would be to just "retire" your guy every time you have a fight coming up. That way, your online CAF would essentially be "improving" right along with your career CAF, and would be fighting at the skill level you've currently reached.

We could even have everybody post their most recent rankings before the card, which would make future matchups and rankings more accurate. This might create concerns about people who play through the career in the first week having a big advantage (especially people who have gotten the game early), which might initially be true. But as I've said, the guys playing the game the most SHOULD be ranked higher. Eventually though, they'll max out, allowing everyone else to catch up, where we'll finally begin to truly see who is the most skilled at the game.

So far, from what I'm hearing/reading, I'm really excited about the possibilities. I just got the call from "Ashley" a few minutes ago that my Gamestop is doing a midnight launch, so I should have my copy in about 28 hours. Can't wait! :)
 
When you use your career dude in exhibition or live he will be at the same level he is in career mode.

For retirement I don't think you can comeback from it, I believe it's for the game Hall of Fame.
 
[quote name='DT778']When you use your career dude in exhibition or live he will be at the same level he is in career mode.

For retirement I don't think you can comeback from it, I believe it's for the game Hall of Fame.[/QUOTE]

DT...I'm assuming you've got the game and have been playing it? Cause you're throwing out some info that is a bit contradictory to what people have been reading. I hope what you're saying is right because that would make the CAF situation really simple for the league. I just want confirmation from people who have the game already.
 
Is it just me, or do these fighters have some seriously big nipples going on? There's a few fighters wearing pancakes on their pecs, it seems.
 
[quote name='seen']Its $52.99 on Amazon...But if a fightclub does start, I'm working on my Kimbo![/QUOTE]


Your Kimbo Slice will be taking down quite easily by all of us. Oh yes, there will be blood. :D
 
[quote name='seen']Its $52.99 on Amazon...But if a fightclub does start, I'm working on my Kimbo![/QUOTE]

Using "fightclub" and "Kimbo" in the same sentence =
epicfail.jpg

Congratulations! :D
 
i have the game.

basically DT is spot-on.

your career fighter is unrelated to your CAF guy that you can field in the tourney. basically i think it lets you make someone in the 80's or so.

a career can get higher than a CAF with time, but starts really really weak.

i'll play more career this afternoon so i can go into it more.
 
[quote name='Kuroi Kaze']i have the game.

basically DT is spot-on.

your career fighter is unrelated to your CAF guy that you can field in the tourney. basically i think it lets you make someone in the 80's or so.

a career can get higher than a CAF with time, but starts really really weak.

i'll play more career this afternoon so i can go into it more.[/QUOTE]

Well...that's not really what was in question. DT said that the CAF you create for your career can be used at any time in exhibition or online (ie. without creating one separately in exhibition).

He also mentioned that as you progress with your CAF in career mode and he improves, those improvements would be reflected when you take him online...without needing to "retire" him or anything. That's what we need confirmation on.
 
Career fighters can be used online at any time and his states will be the same as they are in his career. So when you improve him in career it will reflect on the other modes.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Using "fightclub" and "Kimbo" in the same sentence

Congratulations! [/QUOTE]

LOL, I'm not surprised to hear someone mention it. My first and only MMA fight to attend had him headlining (May 31st) so I have a soft spot for him.

I admit professionally he has been a joke, but Lesnar would be too if he did not have an amateur wrestling background.
 
[quote name='seen']LOL, I'm not surprised to hear someone mention it. My first and only MMA fight to attend had him headlining (May 31st) so I have a soft spot for him.

I admit professionally he has been a joke, but Lesnar would be too if he did not have an amateur wrestling background.[/QUOTE]

Haha, glad to see you didn't take it the wrong way. I just almost felt "obligated" to do that, lol. I can understand it if you actually got to see him fight...meaning you also got to see Gina Carano that night too right? And nobody can talk shit about that. That's pretty damn cool.

And yeah, as much as I despise what professional wrestling has turned into, Lesnar having an amateur wrestling background gave him a great headstart. At the very least, having grappling skills allows a fighter to prevent himself from getting hit (something Kimbo needs to try, haha). Some of the most boring MMA fights I've ever seen have involved wrestlers who just hold their opponent on the ground the entire fight. But at least Brock did alright learning the hammer fist technique, and it's paid dividends for him.

Personally, I still hope Mir takes him out though. If Lesnar wins, he's really got nowhere to go...except for a fight with Fedor which won't happen for a very long time. Otherwise, you've got what...Shane Carwin and maybe Cheick Kongo who could possibly deserve a shot? (I'd say make them fight each other first though). There's also talk that Crocop is coming back soon, so that could be another potential matchup. I just don't want to see another unbeatable behemoth in the UFC. It makes things boring (see: Anderson Silva).
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu'] It makes things boring (see: Anderson Silva).[/QUOTE]

Since the demo I've really gotten into UFC and recently watched UFC 97 with Silva vs Thales Leites. Man I felt bad for Leites. You could tell his gameplan was to beat Silva in the ground game but he just couldn't get him down. As the match progressed he just got to tired and the fight became a joke. Silva was just to good. Leites is a write in for UFC 101 in Auguest curious to see how he does because Silva made him like like kid amongst gods out there.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Haha, glad to see you didn't take it the wrong way. I just almost felt "obligated" to do that, lol. I can understand it if you actually got to see him fight...meaning you also got to see Gina Carano that night too right? And nobody can talk shit about that. That's pretty damn cool.

And yeah, as much as I despise what professional wrestling has turned into, Lesnar having an amateur wrestling background gave him a great headstart. At the very least, having grappling skills allows a fighter to prevent himself from getting hit (something Kimbo needs to try, haha). Some of the most boring MMA fights I've ever seen have involved wrestlers who just hold their opponent on the ground the entire fight. But at least Brock did alright learning the hammer fist technique, and it's paid dividends for him.

Personally, I still hope Mir takes him out though. If Lesnar wins, he's really got nowhere to go...except for a fight with Fedor which won't happen for a very long time. Otherwise, you've got what...Shane Carwin and maybe Cheick Kongo who could possibly deserve a shot? (I'd say make them fight each other first though). There's also talk that Crocop is coming back soon, so that could be another potential matchup. I just don't want to see another unbeatable behemoth in the UFC. It makes things boring (see: Anderson Silva).[/QUOTE]

Great to see other like minded, a reason why I keep coming back even when not looking for a gaming deal.

Indeed it was fun seeing Gina kick some serious ass and establish herself as a tough female fighter; in a class of her own. Also, I can't forget watching "Hometown" well Long Island anyway Phil Bironi establish himself as an MMA doormat.
And finally with Kimbo, he was hyped beyond belief. He was made into the favorite by the promoters. When entering the arena I was handed a "Kickass Kimbo" sign which as you've seen on TV his "fans" hold up. Anyhow I thought Kimbo actually was submitted by Thompson in the 2nd which I think the ref ended up standing them back up. Also it was like the ref had never seen a cauliflower ear before(why didn't doc drain it I will always wonder)but Thompson could have well continued IMO.

I hope Lesnar loses as well because if there is a behemoth HW with no competition it really makes the sport lackluster; see boxing for example aside from the fractured championship belt system. You have giants with no competition, no proven greatness just being over-sized helps them dominate their opponents. I kinda disagree about Silva as I think he is like a prime Roy Jones Jr.; just athletic and excels at his sport.
 
[quote name='seen']Indeed it was fun seeing Gina kick some serious ass and establish herself as a tough female fighter; in a class of her own.[/QUOTE]

She just needs to learn how to make weight.
 
Well, I come asking for some advice. I certainly want this game, but debating if I should just use my Gamefly discount and Gamefly dollars to buy it for $40.xx, trying to get a good queue slot in Goozex or dish the cash out for the Best Buy deal tomorrow.

Any suggestions? Best option?
 
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