Whats in the PS Store Thread: Sega Superstars Tennis and Condemned 2 demos up now!

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The Chicken puzzle game looks hard to play, having to look at each row and predict where the ones outside the walls will land when you move them in.

I want Puzzle Fighter!
 
[quote name='zewone']The PSP has the same button configuration as the PS1 (besides the second analog stick which is still the Sony's biggest PSP oversight).[/quote]Well, there's no L2 and R2 buttons, and there is no 2nd analog stick. Some games, not a big issue, but for others, they sometimes have to reconfigure the controls because pressing right/left on the analog nub doesn't always feel right.

And what's wrong with demos coming out a month before release?
I just said that because people are expecting a Ratchet demo now, and the game isn't slated until late October/early November.
[quote name='Dezuria']
I want Puzzle Fighter![/QUOTE]Yeah, I want Puzzle Fighter too. :(
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Read the post above your post.
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Haha, ty.

Apparently it went unnoticed since it was quoted and smaller text I guess :p

That's the first time I've ever complained about the PSN content, and just had to get that off my chest. Now that I'm done, off to resistance I go ^^

I wonder if they'll have some add-on content for Super Stardust?
That would be cool :D
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']Haha, ty.

Apparently it went unnoticed since it was quoted and smaller text I guess :p

That's the first time I've ever complained about the PSN content, and just had to get that off my chest. Now that I'm done, off to resistance I go ^^

I wonder if they'll have some add-on content for Super Stardust?
That would be cool :D[/quote]
That would be nice, but I'm having enough trouble trying to get past 15 million. That fourth planet is nuts.

I'd like to see at least one demo a week become a standard, as they should have plenty of demos in line for release that they'd have to have a backlog by now.
 
The new uncut Superbad trailer makes me want to see this movie bad. I like the HS videos too. I would have loved a Ratchet demo though.
 
Anyone download Piyotama and enjoy it? I know it's only $3 but I still wanna get some opinions on it before I decide to get it. :)
 
Man, I'm really surprised by that R-rated version trailer for Superbad.
Makes me want to see the movie slightly less though.
 
[quote name='Dezuria']Anyone download Piyotama and enjoy it? I know it's only $3 but I still wanna get some opinions on it before I decide to get it. :)[/quote]
I just picked it up and it's pretty good, especially for the cheap price. It'll take you a little bit to figure out how the game works, but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty fun. I like how you can shake the controller (up and down or sideways) to shake up the board and try to move eggs to a better position. There's two single-player modes and a two-player local multiplayer mode along with online rankings.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Rumors on the street show ESRB ratings for PSX Castlevania Chronicles and Wipeout XL (so they're on their way to the PSN, possibly).[/quote]I see myself picking up Chronicles.

I believe we'll also get the PSN game, PixelJunk Racers.
 
I just noticed that there is 2 different blast factor demos. Are they different at all? or is it just a mistake? I dont feel like downloading them since I just got a new HD and am downloading 20 other things right now
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Any speculation on what's going to appear tomorrow? I'd hope that the Ratchet and Clank demo is finally ready to be put up.[/quote]

PSN games??? :roll:

Haha, didn't want to beat a dead horse but I couldn't resist. Plus I like horses :/

Hopefully a Ratchet demo, otherwise I'll drive on down to Insomniac games and ask for some insider info :p
I live in the same town so it wouldn't hurt ;)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I predict an Alvin and The Chipmunks trailer will be the highlight tomorrow.

*sigh*[/quote]We can only hope myke.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I predict an Alvin and The Chipmunks trailer will be the highlight tomorrow.

*sigh*[/quote]

ALL RIGHT! *High Five Moment*
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I predict an Alvin and The Chipmunks trailer will be the highlight tomorrow.

*sigh*[/QUOTE]
I'm banking on Fred Claus trailer #3.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Ratchet would be cool. So would the Tekken online mode.

Even better would be MORE Trailers!!![/QUOTE]

Both would make my day....
 
Ratchet won't come until late September. You can count on that. Tekken 5 DR online will come with Namco Bandai wants it to.

Also, those who keep wanting demos, let me just say if Sony were to release a Ratchet demo, Folklore demo, Lair demo (lets say the game was finished), and Uncharted demo (although it would be best to wait on that, because I hear the demo needs fine tuning) in one day. I almost guarantee everyone would be happy initially, but after two weeks, most will be bored saying they're tired of playing the demo over and over again, either screaming for the full versions to be released now, or more demos (when SCE blew the entire load at once). Some people play demos more than once, but from what I gather, most only play a demo 2-3 times and never touch it again.

I love trailers, so I always welcome them.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Ratchet won't come until late September. You can count on that. Tekken 5 DR online will come with Namco Bandai wants it to.

Also, those who keep wanting demos, let me just say if Sony were to release a Ratchet demo, Folklore demo, Lair demo (lets say the game was finished), and Uncharted demo (although it would be best to wait on that, because I hear the demo needs fine tuning) in one day. I almost guarantee everyone would be happy initially, but after two weeks, most will be bored saying they're tired of playing the demo over and over again, either screaming for the full versions to be released now, or more demos (when SCE blew the entire load at once). Some people play demos more than once, but from what I gather, most only play a demo 2-3 times and never touch it again.

I love trailers, so I always welcome them.[/QUOTE]

Nobody is asking for trailers only from SCE; we want third party support of demos too, as well as PSX releases.

I don't know why I bother, since your PS3 could kill your mother and you'd be thanking it for the inheritance, but let me stack it up this way:

1) Xbox 360:
- updates at various times during the week (the most recent was the Bioshock demo on Sunday night).

- The only guaranteed update each week is for XBLA. *EVERY* week (for some time now), the 360 gets 1 (or 2!) guaranteed arcade games. They aren't always good, they aren't always cheap, but, (1) they are always there and (2) they always have available demos so you can try before you buy.

- Demos come out when they come out, and are readily available and plentiful. Third parties release demos for multiplatform games on the 360, while, with a pinch of salt's worth of exceptions, they remain on the 360 exclusively and never show up on the PSN.

- TV on demand: Expensive and DRM-filled, but there. There is enough free programming to maintain your interest in the meantime; if you want to pay a dumbass amount of money for a movie you can only watch for 24 hours, you have that option

- Manages all this with a 20GB HDD. Keep this in mind for later. :lol:

Wii:

- Updates poorly for online offerings, but excels in one regard: Monday morning Virtual Console. Expensive? Yeah. Sometimes crummy releases? Yeah. But are they there? Yeah. 3 (count 'em, **3**) new games for download every Monday morning. They have over 100 games available for DL. The downside? Price, lack of improvements (no online play), and no demos to play

PS3:

- Updates every Thursday, and only on Thursday. A *COMPLETE* crapshoot as to what comes down the pipeline. One week, it's a Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo; the next three, it's more terrible movie trailers than you can handle.

- PSN games are, again, a complete crapshoot. Maybe one one week, and then nothing for awhile. Demos (or "starter packs") are inconsistently released (which is why I've never played Calling All Cars - fuck you if I can't try a demo).

- PSX games should be competing with the VC head to head. Like the VC, there are *no* improvements at all - no graphical changes, no online play, nothin'. Just 32-bit goodness! But, today, we have 12 games, most reasonably priced, while Japan has 97.

- THIS is the console that thought 60GB was just not enough for you, and had to upgrade to 80GB! :lol: Who, exactly, is storing 60GB+ of "Hot Rod" trailers?

In sum:
The 360's content is plentiful, and offers samples. There's no waiting for a "special day of the week." No complaints here as far as I'm concerned. Bioshock and Katamari demos in one week? I think that shoots to hell your dumbass theory about a company "blowing their wad."
The Wii's content is one-dimensional, and only happens once a week, but godDAMN is the anticipation exciting most of the time.
The PS3 is the megabitch of consoles. She demands the most money from you and provides the least in return. It's rather good every now and then, but, for the most part, you spend your entire week excited and leave with blue balls.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Nobody is asking for trailers only from SCE; we want third party support of demos too, as well as PSX releases.

I don't know why I bother, since your PS3 could kill your mother and you'd be thanking it for the inheritance, but let me stack it up this way:

1) Xbox 360:
- updates at various times during the week (the most recent was the Bioshock demo on Sunday night).

- The only guaranteed update each week is for XBLA. *EVERY* week (for some time now), the 360 gets 1 (or 2!) guaranteed arcade games. They aren't always good, they aren't always cheap, but, (1) they are always there and (2) they always have available demos so you can try before you buy.

- Demos come out when they come out, and are readily available and plentiful. Third parties release demos for multiplatform games on the 360, while, with a pinch of salt's worth of exceptions, they remain on the 360 exclusively and never show up on the PSN.

- TV on demand: Expensive and DRM-filled, but there. There is enough free programming to maintain your interest in the meantime; if you want to pay a dumbass amount of money for a movie you can only watch for 24 hours, you have that option

- Manages all this with a 20GB HDD. Keep this in mind for later. :lol:

Wii:

- Updates poorly for online offerings, but excels in one regard: Monday morning Virtual Console. Expensive? Yeah. Sometimes crummy releases? Yeah. But are they there? Yeah. 3 (count 'em, **3**) new games for download every Monday morning. They have over 100 games available for DL. The downside? Price, lack of improvements (no online play), and no demos to play

PS3:

- Updates every Thursday, and only on Thursday. A *COMPLETE* crapshoot as to what comes down the pipeline. One week, it's a Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo; the next three, it's more terrible movie trailers than you can handle.

- PSN games are, again, a complete crapshoot. Maybe one one week, and then nothing for awhile. Demos (or "starter packs") are inconsistently released (which is why I've never played Calling All Cars - fuck you if I can't try a demo).

- PSX games should be competing with the VC head to head. Like the VC, there are *no* improvements at all - no graphical changes, no online play, nothin'. Just 32-bit goodness! But, today, we have 12 games, most reasonably priced, while Japan has 97.

- THIS is the console that thought 60GB was just not enough for you, and had to upgrade to 80GB! :lol: Who, exactly, is storing 60GB+ of "Hot Rod" trailers?

In sum:
The 360's content is plentiful, and offers samples. There's no waiting for a "special day of the week." No complaints here as far as I'm concerned. Bioshock and Katamari demos in one week? I think that shoots to hell your dumbass theory about a company "blowing their wad."
The Wii's content is one-dimensional, and only happens once a week, but godDAMN is the anticipation exciting most of the time.
The PS3 is the megabitch of consoles. She demands the most money from you and provides the least in return. It's rather good every now and then, but, for the most part, you spend your entire week excited and leave with blue balls.[/quote]Fully agree.

And this just in, so far, updates around the world are not good.
UK getting the tired old Armored Core 4 demo.
And the HK store getting the Bladestorm demo (still non-English I believe).
 
[quote name='w1r3d']around what time are updates usually done on the PSN?[/quote]Hey fellow Dallasite.

US updates are kinda all over the place, but generally in early afternoon.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Nobody is asking for trailers only from SCE; we want third party support of demos too, as well as PSX releases. [/QUOTE]If third parties just aren't giving Sony demos, then what can Sony do. Third parties are more than welcome to put demos on PSN (although they have to go through SCE testing, which is more thorough than MS testing, because SCE is very concerned about demos being as bug free as possible), but if they're giving them to MS and not to PS3, there's nothing Sony can do.

Part of the problem is, the 360 is the lead platform for most multi-platform games (the one where the 360 is the lead platform, rarely gets a demo on PSN). The 360 version of a game may be done way before the actual release, so the developer can work on a 360 demo. With the PS3, the developer is usually porting the game from 360 to PS3 (which is a big pain to do, since the PS3 doesn't completely accept the code from the 360), and the development is usually going on up until release (or the PS3 version just gets delayed so the devs can finish it). By the time the PS3 version is finished, the game is tested by SCE, produced, and shipped out to retailers. If a dev wants to make a PS3 demo, they either have to go through the same process it took to make the 360 demo, or deal with the difficulty of porting a 360 demo to PS3 (and deal with the pain again). Due to the PS3 having the smaller userbase and a demo coming late, most developers feel there's no reason to even bother with that, because they are already targeting the larger base with the 360.

Last gen, PS2 was the lead platform for most multi-platform games, so giving PS2 demos wasn't too bad. And since porting to Xbox wasn't bad, devs could take a PS2 demo and port it to Xbox in no time. Until devs start using the PS3 as the lead platform, demos just won't come from third parties often.

Games which PS3 was the lead platform (or developed separately), like Virtua Tennis 3, Armored Core 4, Dynasty Warriors GUNDAM, Sega Revo in the future, etc., the PS3 demo will come before, or near the same time as the 360 one.

I have no problems with PS Store updates being on Thursday. We won't get several updates because updating the PS Store is like a website, where updating it can take time (and it's not an easy task).

If you're pissed at the PS3, go ahead and sell it, I don't care. At least you aren't paying $50 a year for PSN. You may get more content on XBL, but you gotta pay for it.

As for PS1 games, if they were ONLY for PS3, we'd probably see more. Since they are for PSP too (and the PSP controls are slightly different), that's why it's taking a while to get them, because the controls have to be re-configured. And did you hear about a few PS1 games being pulled from the Euro store, because of a few emulation problems. That's part of the reason SCEA doesn't just dump PS1 downloads into the PS Store since they have to assure it emulates okay without issues.
 
PS2 demos? :lol:

I've heard your excuses in this regard before, and they do (for once) hold water. Ultimately, that's not the point, because you're willfully ignoring that not having demos makes the PS3 look pitifully weak. You can't say "well, 360 gets demos for most games, and PS3 does not" and then expect people to want to buy a PS3 over a 360.

Sony can do something about it: they can offer programming and financial resources to show that PSN is capable of competing with the 360 and Wii online and in terms of content. That, 9 months (to the day) of the system's release, calling the PSN's offerings "half-assed" would be a gross overstatement of what they are offering, is an embarrassment. It's not a new system anymore.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']PS2 demos? :lol:[/quote]I was discussing last gen, with OPM and all. Many games last gen had the PS2 as the lead platform, which is why it got demos.

I've heard your excuses in this regard before, and they do (for once) hold water. Ultimately, that's not the point, because you're willfully ignoring that not having demos makes the PS3 look pitifully weak. You can't say "well, 360 gets demos for most games, and PS3 does not" and then expect people to want to buy a PS3 over a 360.
What should Sony do, tell these devs they must release a demo or they can't support PS3 at all? Doing that will put Sony in a worse relationship with third parties causing them to make games ONLY for 360.

Sony can do something about it: they can offer programming and financial resources to show that PSN is capable of competing with the 360 and Wii online and in terms of content. That, 9 months (to the day) of the system's release, calling the PSN's offerings "half-assed" would be a gross overstatement of what they are offering, is an embarrassment. It's not a new system anymore.
XBL content was very poor too last year. There were only 30 demos total and XBLA was a huge joke. If anything, Sony is ahead of MS.

Lol, Sony shouldn't pay 3rd parties to put out a demo. Regardless, porting a game to PS3 is quite hard, and that's why PS3 doesn't get a demo. Until devs make PS3 the lead platform, PSN won't get the demos. If you want demos, just play 360 and stop complaining.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']*sigh*[/QUOTE]



with an attitude like that, you don't deserve a trailer for the next crappy movie that nobody cares about. your open disdain for what mother sony gives you should result in a banning from the PSN altogether.


here's to another craptastic PSN thursday!
 
[quote name='Apossum']with an attitude like that, you don't deserve a trailer for the next crappy movie that nobody cares about. your open disdain for what mother sony gives you should result in a banning from the PSN altogether.


here's to another craptastic PSN thursday![/quote]
MGS demo today, I can feel it :bouncy::bouncy::bouncy::roll:
 
[quote name='Apossum']with an attitude like that, you don't deserve a trailer for the next crappy movie that nobody cares about. your open disdain for what mother sony gives you should result in a banning from the PSN altogether.


here's to another craptastic PSN thursday![/QUOTE]Sony just isn't putting content to please hardcore gamers, they are aiming to please the mass market who may be interested in movie trailers. Heck, Sony gets them for free and that's why we get them. Would you rather have no updates on Thursday then (removing all trailers)?

If you're upset, go complain at the PS Blog, not here, and sell your PS3. I think Sony has done a wonderful job with the PS Store, so I'm happy enough.

Also, MS has it easy because the only platform they have to concentrate on is 360. Sony on other handhand, has their hands tied with PS3, PSP, and PS2.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Sony just isn't putting content to please hardcore gamers, they are aiming to please the mass market who may be interested in movie trailers. Heck, Sony gets them for free and that's why we get them. Would you rather have no updates on Thursday then (removing all trailers)?

If you're upset, go complain at the PS Blog, not here. I think Sony has done a wonderful job with the PS Store, so I'm happy enough.[/QUOTE]
:rofl:
 
Here's a new R&C video that was went up today by Insomniac.

http://www.myresistance.net/ig/cronk_zephyr.mov

Cronk & Zephyr bicker over who's technology is better as Cronk contains a Blu-Ray player and Zephyr has better online abilities. They had a friend called Willy who was and easily excited and would constantly wave his arms around but he didn't survive the last battle with the other two.

I'll get the release date info soon.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']If you're upset, go complain at the PS Blog, not here, and sell your PS3. I think Sony has done a wonderful job with the PS Store, so I'm happy enough.[/quote]
... I know someone who doesn't own a 360, the name rhimes with Pana Sight. The PS store, for the most part, is ass; granted it's only 9 - 10 months out, but they were touting having all the PS1 functionality for the PSP WAAYYY back in early '06, so where the fuck is it?

Granted we'd like more demos of games and what-not, but most of the time that is out of Sony's control .... the PS1 shit IS within Sony's control and they're dropping the ball BIG TIME on it.

I'm not going to sway Pana Sight's opinion on this because it's clear that she's able to look past this console's weaknesses, I'll chalk that up as a fault .
 
[quote name='dallow']Hey Crimson, he does have a 360 and uses Live extensively.

R&C release date:

October 23rd.[/QUOTE]

October 23rd is significantly earlier than I thought. The rest of 2007 is really loaded with worthwhile PS3 titles.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Sony just isn't putting content to please hardcore gamers, they are aiming to please the mass market who may be interested in movie trailers. Heck, Sony gets them for free and that's why we get them. Would you rather have no updates on Thursday then (removing all trailers)?[/quote]

Yes. Take the trailers down. I'd rather have nothing at all than bullshit. Keep your dumbass trailers. I'm serious. They're fucking stupid, and an embarrassing proxy for REAL downloadable content. You may as well ask me if I'd like to not be slapped in the face instead of slapped in the face. In both cases, just fuckin' keep it.

OOOOOOOOOOOOH! Take away the trailers! You going to send me to bed without giving me brussels sprouts and rhubarb casserole, too? Please don't do that, I sure do loves me some brussels sprouts and rhubarb!

If you're upset, go complain at the PS Blog, not here, and sell your PS3. I think Sony has done a wonderful job with the PS Store, so I'm happy enough.

Ha! Let me set the stage for you:

SCENE: Official PS Blog

NARRATOR:...it was a dark and stormy night. The gales were blowing against the remnants of the rickety shack, nearly toppling what was left of the old cabin. Inside, our hero held onto his Stetson fedora, half pack of Chesterfields, and did what he knew he had to do. He had to let the truth be known.

HERO LOGS ONTO PS FORUMS
Hero: Here we go...
*several clicking sounds*
Hero: TAKE THAT, SEE! NOW THE WORLD WILL KNOW THE TRUTH!!!

NARRATOR: Our hero made his displeasure known. The PSN, which has become a ghetto, the likes of which haven't been seen this far West since Warsaw in 1939, was about to be exposed. But, little did our hero know that the enemy had grown more sophisticated. More savvy. And more ruthless. He did not anticipate the crunching oppression associated with his attempt at revelation.

Hero: THREAD LOCKED! WHAT THE fuck, MAN!?!?!?!?!?!

END SCENE.

(polite applause)

Alternately, I did find a rare photo of the PSN forum regulars and moderators.

freaks.jpg


ONE OF US...ONE OF US...ONE OF US...

Also, MS has it easy because the only platform they have to concentrate on is 360. Sony on other handhand, has their hands tied with PS3, PSP, and PS2.

I'd like to address the cramped-vagina response of "sell your PS3" you brought up earlier. fuck you. If you can be happy as a peach spending $600 for trailers for "The Great Mouse Detective," then bully for you. I, on the other hand, have expectations about a machine. Don't tell me what to do or to sell my PS3. This is not the Bush administration, where you get kicked out and ostracized if you don't agree in lockstep with everything that goes. I like my PS3, I like some of the games , I like the BR player, I like the PS2 and DVD upscaling, but the PSN is a disaster and embarrassing failure thus far. The content is bullshit, and you know it.

Let me be crystal clear about this. Even a mongoloid like you can't argue with this logic: THE PS3 IS NOT A PERFECT SYSTEM. AS A MATTER OF FACT, NONE OF THEM ARE.

Now, I know you would agree with my logic, and claim "oh, myke, I know it's not perfect, because it's not very comfy to spoon with it in a twin-sized bed," but that's not what I'm getting at. I'm merely arguing that there are some fat-ass sized flaws in the system that can *EASILY* be remedied, and you're trying to tell me that trailers for "Leonard Part VI" are a perfectly acceptable substitute for genuine goddamned content. I don't agree with you at all, and, as a matter of fact, I don't think there's a single goddamned person on this site who would agree with you that the PSN delivers good content.
 
[quote name='dallow']Hey Crimson, he does have a 360 and uses Live extensively.

R&C release date:

October 23rd.[/quote]
Wow, you wouldn't know it by how he's clamoring about the PS store. The first time I logged on I thought it was a joke; it looks very antiquated compared to the XBL browser.

My hope is that they change the layout to something more appealing, but considering they've maintained the same look with their PSP site for the last year and a half I would venture to guess that it's not happening.
 
[quote name='CrimsonPaw']Wow, you wouldn't know it by how he's clamoring about the PS store. The first time I logged on I thought it was a joke; it looks very antiquated compared to the XBL browser.

My hope is that they change the layout to something more appealing, but considering they've maintained the same look with their PSP site for the last year and a half I would venture to guess that it's not happening.[/QUOTE]

Well, Home is coming, which I would assume (correct me if I'm wrong), will be a complete overhaul of the on-line interface. I'm hoping that along with that, content will be more readily forthcoming, but I think that will only really come with larger market share.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Sony just isn't putting content to please hardcore gamers, they are aiming to please the mass market who may be interested in movie trailers. Heck, Sony gets them for free and that's why we get them. Would you rather have no updates on Thursday then (removing all trailers)?

If you're upset, go complain at the PS Blog, not here, and sell your PS3. I think Sony has done a wonderful job with the PS Store, so I'm happy enough.

Also, MS has it easy because the only platform they have to concentrate on is 360. Sony on other handhand, has their hands tied with PS3, PSP, and PS2.[/QUOTE]



Myke handled the response better than I could even dream of, but here you go:

I'm not going to justify anything for you, because you're the only person who doesn't get that PSN sucks right now. All I'm going to say directly in response is that I would rather have game trailers rather than movie trailers. Even if they do put PSP and PS2 game trailers up, that would be better than fucking Fred Claus trailers.

But the real point I want to make-- it's crystal clear what your problem is: you seem to be anthropomorphizing these companies into political platforms or possibly even into real people, as if they're your friends or somehow stand behind you...the way you talk about them indicates this. you defend Sony like it's your best friend. these are fucking corporations. Their whole existence is based on putting out or getting out. You're not supposed to have serious emotional ties to them. it's not healthy, but you seem too far gone to realize this. consider that, because nobody in real life would ever have the heart to tell you that (if you don't completely hide that aspect of your personality from them)...but it's something you should really try to control because if you don't, your existence is going to be pretty miserable :roll:
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Now, I know you would agree with my logic, and claim "oh, myke, I know it's not perfect, because it's not very comfy to spoon with it in a twin-sized bed," but that's not what I'm getting at.[/quote]

:applause:

Seriously, though. Everyone but The Mana Knight has to agree that the PSN has problems. There is absolutely no rational reason that the US PS store is as lacking as it is when the Japanese counterpart has so much more content.

1. Give us a regular day during the week for updates. This seems to be mostly established for Thursdays, but...
2. Give us at least one PS1 game each update. I don't care if it's not the best game in the world, the library is ripe for the porting.
3. Require 'starter packs' for all downloadable games.

These are just a starting point, but I think it would add a lot for not that much effort. If we're getting a crappy system because we don't pay a yearly fee, give us the option to. I'd pay it to get more demos and better, regular service.

I don't expect a clone of the Xbox marketplace, but do something to show you even care.
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']Holy shit, that was awesome.[/quote]

Oh yea, that was some good readin'

I'm glad I'm taking speech class right now, with all these arguments you guys give me some nice angles to work with and inspiration :lol:

I wish I had a 360 to see what their store is like so I could see for myself and pass some judgement. I could listen to the banter all day long, but if I can't see it for myself, it just won't have a huge impact on me :/
 
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