Who will win the big ALCS rematch?

[quote name='ChrisXE']
wow your in boston and you pullnig for the YANKS to go to the world series, thats weird[/quote]

You're the first person to mention that. I actually use to be big Sox fan but switched in the mid 90s. And the switch has nothing to do with winning championships. And just to prove that, I hate the Pats as well.
 
I hate pats, yankees, and lakers, anybody want to guess why? because its about bein an underdogg, and nomar was my fav player, so i stuck with boston for the pass 5 yeaars
 
[quote name='dafoomie']I wonder where all the Yankees fans are, except for dcfox. I was here after the 19-8 loss.

No wonder why he'd dare criticize one of the most heroic pitching performances in the history of baseball. Why don't you call out Kevin Brown for setting a bad example for not only pitching with a broken hand, but breaking it himself against a cement wall?[/quote]

But with the case with Kevin Brown, he didn't break his pitching hand. I would imagine that Curt Schilling would run a greater risk of hurting himself pitching on that ankle then Kevin would pitching with the opposite hand.
 
But with the case with Kevin Brown, he didn't break his pitching hand. I would imagine that Curt Schilling would run a greater risk of hurting himself pitching on that ankle then Kevin would pitching with the opposite hand.
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He could re-break the catching hand if he tries to catch something, or falls on it, or if a ball hits it.
Schilling's injury can not be re-injured or made worse in any way. It simply is what it is, and will be the same as it is today until he has surgery, no better or worse.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Is your avatar a picture of RichD1 right now, greendc?[/quote]
Lol, no it's a picture of a friend that passed out like that.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']
But with the case with Kevin Brown, he didn't break his pitching hand. I would imagine that Curt Schilling would run a greater risk of hurting himself pitching on that ankle then Kevin would pitching with the opposite hand.
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He could re-break the catching hand if he tries to catch something, or falls on it, or if a ball hits it.
Schilling's injury can not be re-injured or made worse in any way. It simply is what it is, and will be the same as it is today until he has surgery, no better or worse.[/quote]

You could say the same thing with Schilling's ankle. What if it took a bad twist or got hit with a line drive. You can't tell me his ankles not going to be worse after something like that. But with Brown, that broken hand really doesn't factor into his pitching motion. But I guess playing with any injury is a bad idea overall. Pedro had the right idea when he missed his start because of sore throat. :wink:
 
You could say the same thing with Schilling's ankle. What if it took a bad twist or got hit with a line drive. You can't tell me his ankles not going to be worse after something like that. But with Brown, that broken hand really doesn't factor into his pitching motion. But I guess playing with any injury is a bad idea overall.
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You do not understand the nature of Schilling's injury. It CAN NOT get worse. There is a sheath in the ankle that keeps your tendons in place. Schilling tore it, and as a result, his tendons snap against the ankle if not kept in place. This is a fairly common injury. You can't make it worse.

You're just a Yankees homer who won't give Schilling the credit he deserves for such a gutty and brilliant performance.

The Redsox medical staff deserves all the credit in the world for finding a way to secure the tendons in the ankle enough for him to pitch. They used stitches to keep the tendons in place. Painful, yes, but no chance of further worsening the injury.

Ankle in the 3rd inning:
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Ankle later:
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[quote name='dafoomie']
You could say the same thing with Schilling's ankle. What if it took a bad twist or got hit with a line drive. You can't tell me his ankles not going to be worse after something like that. But with Brown, that broken hand really doesn't factor into his pitching motion. But I guess playing with any injury is a bad idea overall.
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You do not understand the nature of Schilling's injury. It CAN NOT get worse. There is a sheath in the ankle that keeps your tendons in place. Schilling tore it, and as a result, his tendons snap against the ankle if not kept in place. This is a fairly common injury. You can't make it worse.

You're just a Yankees homer who won't give Schilling the credit he deserves for such a gutty and brilliant performance.

The Redsox medical staff deserves all the credit in the world for finding a way to secure the tendons in the ankle enough for him to pitch. They used stitches to keep the tendons in place. Painful, yes, but no chance of further worsening the injury.

Ankle in the 3rd inning:
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Ankle later:
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Wow, i didn't realize his injury was that bad.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']
You could say the same thing with Schilling's ankle. What if it took a bad twist or got hit with a line drive. You can't tell me his ankles not going to be worse after something like that. But with Brown, that broken hand really doesn't factor into his pitching motion. But I guess playing with any injury is a bad idea overall.
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You do not understand the nature of Schilling's injury. It CAN NOT get worse. There is a sheath in the ankle that keeps your tendons in place. Schilling tore it, and as a result, his tendons snap against the ankle if not kept in place. This is a fairly common injury. You can't make it worse.

You're just a Yankees homer who won't give Schilling the credit he deserves for such a gutty and brilliant performance.

The Redsox medical staff deserves all the credit in the world for finding a way to secure the tendons in the ankle enough for him to pitch. They used stitches to keep the tendons in place. Painful, yes, but no chance of further worsening the injury.

Ankle in the 3rd inning:
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Ankle later:
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I'm not trying to take away from what Schilling did. He pitched a great game tonight and hats off to him, but you mean to tell there's nothing that could happen out on the field that could possibly further injure that ankle. If that's the fucking case then what's the all the hoopla about? On one hand you make as if what Schilling did was a great act of heroism on the other hand you make his injury sound like it was nothing worse than a sprained ankle.
 
You clearly do not understand, and don't want to.

You can't make the injury worse than it is. But it is not only very painful, it destabilizes the ankle so that he can't push off properly, or get enough force from it.

You'll do anything to try and nitpick or criticize something because you lost. Theres probably nothing I can say to you that'll change your mind. But any rational human being will see those pictures and recognize that Schilling is a MAN for going out there tonight, and anyone with knowledge of the injury will know that it can't get worse. If it happened to you or me, we'd be in a cast. After the season, Schilling will need surgery, will be in a cast for 6-8+ weeks, and will need 6-8+ weeks of rehab. He may be out for the first month of spring training, or as late as opening day. But he can gut it out and pitch, in extreme pain, discomfort, and without full strength in the ankle, without making the injury worse.

If you don't believe me, heres a New York paper.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseb...,0,5285538.story?coll=ny-nyc-sports-headlines

"...additional pitching didn't put Schilling at risk for additional injury to the leg. But Morgan also indicated that postponing Schilling's next start would have no eventual benefit."

Sorry, I get emotional about the Redsox.
 
i hope the sox win. i hate the yankees, lakers, and patriots. i can't stand any of them.
 
Okay clearly I don't understand, and its not that I don't want to. But this has nothing to do with me being a Yankees fan or the Yankees losing tonight, I was speaking out of concern for Schilling's well being, if choose to believe me. I look at those pictures and I see a guy bleeding out of his sock and as you said most likely in serious pain. Without knowledge of the specifics of the injury, I took the assumption that can't be good for anybody.

I said in my last post hats off to Schilling for pitching a great game, and I mean that sincerely. I might have come off sounding like a dick in my previous posts but I'd like to think that I'm big enough to give credit where credit is due. And again I say kudos to Schillings and kudos to the Sox medical staff. With that said I wish Schilling the best and hope he has quick recovery.
 
I probably bit your head off... I get really emotional about the Redsox. Sorry about that.

It'll be a great game tomorrow though, any word on who is starting for the Yankees?
 
What can I say, we Bostonians are passionate about our sports. And the Yankees' website has Brown listed as starting tomorrow's game.
 
I like passionate Yankees fans a lot more than wishy-washy west coast fans.

So Lowe vs Brown, next two pitchers will probably be Wakefield and Vasquez or El Duque. Arroyo might get an inning or two if he can.

Foulke is the only reliever I see as being unavailable, Embree and Timlin pitched a lot but got tonight off, we can get at least an inning each out of them. Rivera and Gordon got to rest today too though.
 
Man game seven is gonna be so huge, and im working in retail tomorrow. But luckily we have radio right next my electronics reg.

It's too bad I'll miss the first three hours of it, but I might leave work early just to watch more of it. This is the biggest game ever for me as a Red Sox fan, bigger then last years because the Sox put on miracles the last three games.

I'm glad Wakefield isn't pitching asap, I have nightmares from last years game still.
 
That would be nice. Can't wait to see Clemens pitching in boston, but on the opposing team again. Wonder what kind of reaction the boston fans would give him.
 
I love Clemens. My dream would be to have Clemens return to Boston and win a World Series here then retire. That's the only time I would want the Sox to take it all. But then of course the year after the Yankees would win it.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']I wonder where all the Yankees fans are, except for dcfox. I was here after the 19-8 loss.

No wonder why he'd dare criticize one of the most heroic pitching performances in the history of baseball. Why don't you call out Kevin Brown for setting a bad example for not only pitching with a broken hand, but breaking it himself against a cement wall?[/quote]

You see, there's this thing I do I call it sleep, I don't know what you call it. Then when my sleeping is done, I go to this place I like to call school. All the while, I was not posting on CAG. Why open your mouth? The Sox haven't won yet.

I hate Brown for what he did, so don't put fucking words in my mouth or the mouths of Yankee fans. And Schlling could have worsened the ankle, I have o idea where the fuck your info is coming from.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']I like passionate Yankees fans a lot more than wishy-washy west coast fans.
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I spent the most part of the summer in Boston, and became really good friends with some Sox diehards. I love their fans, I just hate the team, which is not the case for Yankees fans. People hate us and the team. Oh well, the price of winning I suppose.

I had to get pelted with dimes at a fucking Rangers/Sox game. Stupid hat. :( You never see that shit at the Stadium. You call us classless for throwing balls onto the field, but yet your fans beat the shit out of Yankee fans, physically, while we don't attack any Sox fans. (verbal is fair game) A Sox fan was thrown out of the Stadium yesterday for picking a fight with a Yankee fan.

Yeah, Yankee fans are so classless.
 
[quote name='Rig']Boston vs. Houston in the World Series. I really hate the Cards and Yanks, and I love Boston.[/quote]

Why you hatin? I prefer legitimite reasons, thank you.
 
Foulke will be available tonight...Tito Francona was on WEEI, and said that if it is late in the game and we have a save opportunity Foulkie will be in their...he throws the same speed, and has had good location, he isn't affected...and will want the ball...that is what tito had to say and vazques was warming up last night, and he threw over 100 pitches back in game 3...I hope derek has his shit together tonight, and doesn't melt down
 
had to get pelted with dimes at a shaq-fuing Rangers/Sox game. Stupid hat. You never see that shit at the Stadium. You call us classless for throwing balls onto the field, but yet your fans beat the shit out of Yankee fans, physically, while we don't attack any Sox fans. (verbal is fair game) A Sox fan was thrown out of the Stadium yesterday for picking a fight with a Yankee fan.

Yeah, Yankee fans are so classless.


please, yankee fans are just as pathetic as sox fans...back in the day fans were throwing needles at players down in the bronx...if you can't keep your mouth shut at a game, while routing for an opposing team, then don't go...both sides are equally pathetic
 
In response to "keeping your mouth shut at a game" Fans are the tenth man in baseball and the eleventh man in football. That is why they call it home field advantage. Every stadium has a couple of fans who take it too far (drink a couple of seven dollar beers and be a die hard fan, things are bound to happen.) I am a huge Yankees fan but the pitching has concerned me since spring training. If the Sox win good for them BUT I hope that the Yanks can pull it off. Speaking of fans, I spent the last 3 years in Oakland and the Raider fans are like no others.
 
[quote name='"Bivensra"']In response to "keeping your mouth shut at a game" Fans are the tenth man in baseball and the eleventh man in football. quote]

check your math man football has 11 players on the field therefore the fans would be the twelth man
 
Not to mention that in Track & Field, the fans are the second man. But home field advantage is more than just having rowdy fans. The advantage also comes from players knowing the playing field, climate, dimensions better than at a visiting stadium. Throwing stuff onto the field reflects badly on the team and city.
 
I hate Brown for what he did, so don't put shaq-fuing words in my mouth or the mouths of Yankee fans. And Schlling could have worsened the ankle, I have o idea where the shaq-fu your info is coming from.
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How about Red Sox medical director Dr. Bill Morgan, and Newsday? I think I'd take his doctor's word for it over yours. Thats just me.

You never see that shit at the Stadium. You call us classless for throwing balls onto the field, but yet your fans beat the shit out of Yankee fans, physically, while we don't attack any Sox fans. (verbal is fair game) A Sox fan was thrown out of the Stadium yesterday for picking a fight with a Yankee fan.
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Some friends of mine got spat on and had food and beer thrown at them. When was the last time you saw Redsox fans throwing stuff onto the field of play on that scale? They called to bring in the riot police. Thats pathetic.
 
To the Red Sox and the fans I say congrats. As a diehard historic Yankees fan (Babe Ruth, Gehrig, Reggie Jackson, Billy Martin, Paul O'Neil, Jeter, etc) I hope they can win the whole thing. This is a hard thing for a true Yankees fan to say, but the better team won. Heads are going to roll and this should be the kick in the pants to not just get bats b/ young good pitchers. I am from Ohio where we have OSU vs Michigan a true rivalry and live in LA where there is UCLA vs USC. The Yankees/Red Sox rivalry will be that much better once the CURSE is truely lifted and that will happen w/ a World Series victory. The Yanks still have 26 championships, more than any other team in professional sports. Come on Red Sox, you have a lot of catching up to do :evil: Trust me, next year will be different due to the changes that started last night. I've heard that Giambi is catching heat and if this is true it is not fair. The guys had been ill.
 
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