Wii surpases 360's sold worldwide

[quote name='A Happy Panda']Yeah no shit. I let my cousins borrow my Wii a month or so ago, I haven't even taken it out of the messenger bag since I got it back from them. The thing is sitting under my bed as I type this. I also haven't turned it on since I think about April.

I thought about taking it out for Super Metroid...then I bought Bioshock.

But next week when I pick up Metroid Prime 3, I'll definitely drag out the Wii for that game. Then when Halo comes out, both Bioshock AND Metroid Prime will be ignored like red-headed step children.[/quote]

With Madden 08 and Bioshock sitting on my doorstep waiting for me to come back from vacation, I have decided to just skip Metriod Prime 3 and save my money for Brawl.

[quote name='Pylis']Agreed. I've barely touched the thing for months... Unfortunately, the only upcoming games I have any real interest in are the first party titles coming out later this year. The Wii is a novel and exciting idea, but I'm growing concerned that only Nintendo is going to really capitalize on the technology.[/quote]

I agree with this statement. I can't say I expected much else though, since I bought the Wii with Mario games in mind. On my list I have Brawl and Mario Kart planned for purchases, but with such a large line up of games out coming out for the 360, I'm afraid those won't get as much play as I would like. Hopefully Mario Kart will be like the last, where you beat it and forget it.

It doesn't help that Halo 3 is where all my friends will be at, and with four player co-op, I'll be spending even more time with this title!

[quote name='jer7583']Your statement shows your lack of taste. Nobody who owns a Wii and has a cubic centimeter of good taste could say such a thing this week, with Super Metroid being available.

Sold vs shipped numbers are bunk. What we're talking about is cumulative NPD data, which is the only real hard 3rd party data available about how many systems have been sold. According to that, the Wii is poised to overtake or nearly match the 360 this month.

Of course, the people who still don't take Wii seriously will just disregard those and go with MS numbers. Fine, be in denial. The Wii is here to stay, like it or not. None of your halos or lairs or big budget blockbusters are going to change that. Wii Fit takes all challengers. Mario Galaxy and SSBB wipe up what's left.[/quote]

I'm not saying that it isn't here to stay. It WILL be the winner this generation, with the most units sold. I am just saying that its a novelty and boring right now. You claim that Mario Galaxy and SSBB are going to 'clean house' and they will, but they are big budget blockbusters too! That makes them no different then your 'halos.'

HOWEVER, I have an opinion, and my opinion is that if I have the choice to play the 360 or SSBB, im going straight to Halo, Bioshock, Mass Effect, COD4 or what ever else is on the 360. In my opinion, you have bad taste if you choose the other option. I would play SSBB with some local multiplayer though, because the Wii does 'wipe up' in that field.
 
[quote name='zewone']Okay, that's fine.

That doesn't mean that eBay is not an option.[/quote]

It's not for a majority of people.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']...

Shit, I've got nothin'.[/QUOTE]

Would it make you feel better if I said good, exclusive 3rd party games?
 
[quote name='seanr1221']Would it make you feel better if I said good, exclusive 3rd party games?[/QUOTE]

If you said 3rd party games in general we might have something...

Zak & Wiki for instance...and....and.....uhhh..
 
[quote name='naes']I don't understand why people aren't taking the Wii seriously. Even though one could argue that comparing the Wii to the 360/PS3 is comparing apples to oranges, you gotta remember that both apples and oranges are fruit.[/QUOTE]

It's because so far the games for the wii are mainly a joke.
 
I love all the talk about Nintendo not being Microsoft or Sony's competition. Well I can tell you last year during the holidays, my $500 spent on gaming went to Nintendo instead of to the 360 or PSP and games I would have gotten instead.

Of course that probably worked out for the better since now when I do get a psp and/or 360 I'll get newer technology.
 
[quote name='ZealousD']
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Edit: Matt edited his post, clarifying "Xbox 360, the nearest next-gen console competitor"

So we might assume...

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=7540636
 
i dont know about this generation of console games, but nintendo has dominated the handheld marketplace for the past 20 years and the GBA/DS is their real moneymaker.

I think the xbox really needs a huge price break, and then it will sel extremely well with the casual gamers. If the xbox premium drops to $250 then that would make things really interesting.
 
[quote name='seanr1221']Cool. Now show me the good 3rd party games Nintendo.[/quote]
How is Nintendo going to force 3ed parties to develop games for the Wii?
 
This will be interesting. After Halo comes out the 360 will shoot up in sales. Then Super Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Brothers Brawl will come out and I imagine the same thing will happen with that too.

The 360's main system seller is Halo. Yes it does have many great games, but that's the one game thatwill sell this system. Maybe Gears of War did that to a lesser extent, but Halo is the one that will be driving sales.

I say whoever wins Christmas of this year will win this gen.

edit/ I'm still amazed that the Wii sold as much as it did, honestly. All of the games it has now are mostly mini-game types.
 
[quote name='k9homan']Where's the numbers for the rest of the world? like China, Korea, Latin America?[/quote]Pretty much insignificant.
 
[quote name='help1']
HOWEVER, I have an opinion, and my opinion is that if I have the choice to play the 360 or SSBB, im going straight to Halo, Bioshock, Mass Effect, COD4 or what ever else is on the 360. In my opinion, you have [highlight]bad taste[/highlight] if you choose the other option. I would play SSBB with some local multiplayer though, because the Wii does 'wipe up' in that field.[/QUOTE]

OK, this pisses me off a bit. I realize it's YOUR opinion, but in MY OPINION shooters are "bad taste" common-denominator games and every one of those that you would play is one ;). They're all the same genre. If you like that, great, but just remember that not everyone does. I'll take Mario Galaxy any day over those, even if they were given to me free. Now, that doesn't mean I won't try Bioshock or Mass Effect as I can enjoy them to a certain amount (I have no interest in the others though). Anyway, sorry, I'm grumpy today and the "bad taste" thing really got to me... Carry on...

Edit - And just to give some props to the 360, I wouldn't necessarily claim that the Wii "wipes up" with local multiplayer to be honest (beyond Wii Sports in any case). Some of the best local multiplayer fun I've had with my boys this summer has been Bomberman Live on XBLA. Sure, we have Mario Party 8 and it's OK, but I hope more stuff comes out for the 360 that supports 3 or 4 player local play.
 
[quote name='Predator21281']After Halo comes out the 360 will shoot up in sales. Then Super Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Brothers Brawl will come out and I imagine the same thing will happen with that too.[/quote]
How on Earth could Wii sales shoot up after those games are released? They're already selling out every shipment!
 
Britney Spears albums sell more than Cut Chemist albums... doesn't mean It makes Britney Spears worth listening to over Cut Chemist. People need to just congrats the Wii on great sales and stop this stupid fanboy comparison bullshit. Go fuck yourselves. It's like you tards are in a pissing contest with other people's dicks.
 
[quote name='Zoglog']Britney Spears albums sell more than Cut Chemist albums... doesn't mean It makes Britney Spears worth listening to over Cut Chemist. People need to just congrats the Wii on great sales and stop this stupid fanboy comparison bullshit. Go fuck yourselves. It's like you tards are in a pissing contest with other people's dicks.[/quote]
Should someone call the waambulance for you? And Cut Chemist is just as bad as Britney.
 
[quote name='kromekoran']ok, I waited to see if anyone else would say something...but did no one else notice that whoever took that screenshot was browsing IGN as well as TrannySurprise?

and link quoted asks for a login to NeoGaf, and I couldn't register because they don't accept @yahoo.com email addresses.[/QUOTE]

TrannySurprise is an ongoing NeoGAF joke. Whenever they take print screens, they always have a browser open to Trannysurprise.
 
I have to say the wii's numbers are really impressive, especially taking over the 360 in total sales and the console hasn't even been out a year yet. congrats nintendo.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']Should someone call the waambulance for you? And Cut Chemist is just as bad as Britney.[/QUOTE]

if that makes you feel better about your pathetic self.
 
[quote name='Zoglog']Britney Spears albums sell more than Cut Chemist albums... doesn't mean It makes Britney Spears worth listening to over Cut Chemist. People need to just congrats the Wii on great sales and stop this stupid fanboy comparison bullshit. Go fuck yourselves. It's like you tards are in a pissing contest with other people's dicks.[/QUOTE]

Wow. I did find this humorous.
 
this has probably been said already, but wii and 360 cater to very different audiences. i don't think msoft should worry too much.

it's not like halo3 or GTA4 are going to be ported to the wii... or will they?
 
Its prefectly alright to fall back on the position that numbers dont matter, but then your business in a sales numbers thread is greatly reduced.

Do system sales numbers have an effect on whether or not the games are worthwhile?

Actually yes, they do. Indirectly.

Lets say that the xbox1 has a good to bad games ratio that is TWICE as high as the PS2. But the PS2 has a library 10x the size, so overall, it has more worthwhile games.

Now what influences developer resource allocation? Marketshare.

The music industry isnt analogous to HARDWARE sales. It is more analogous to SOFTWARE sales. Britney Spears outselling ____ doesnt make it any better than if 50 cent the game outsells _____.

But the music industry platform is universal, CDs. They dont need to compete on multiple, incompatible platforms.



In other news: Certified by neogaf, using only official numbers:
Worldwide numbers

Wii

Australia - 138,192
Europe - 2,870,000
Japan - 3,424,139
Canada - 313,956
US - 3,615,000

TOTAL - 10,361,287
______

360
Australia - 195,056
Europe - 3,250,000
Japan - 402,381
Canada - 403,500
US - 5,950,000

TOTAL - 10,200,937
_____

PS3

Australia: 66,503
Europe - 1,300,000
Japan - 1,085,019
Canada - 84,584
US - 1,609,000

TOTAL - 4,145,106
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Sources (last update):
Japan - Media Create (August 19)
US - NPD (July numbers)
Canada - NPD (July numbers)
Australia - August 2007
Europe - August 2007
Click to expand...
 
This is actually the least fanboy-ish discussion on the subject i've ever seen on a forum.

[quote name='lordxixor101']Decent idea here, but there is an issue. Tech industry traditionally likes powerful systems. It isn't even that the Wii is just the weakest of the new systems, it's as much that it just has a last gen power feel. Do most people care, no, but people making games will.

Now, couple this with a strange controller that doesn't work like the other systems, and a reputation that Nintendo games are the only thing that sell on Nintendo systems.[/quote]

People making games will care, but i think in a different way. The thing most people forget is that the continued leaps in console power require more and more resources to use. More resources means more cost to develop.

The industry is reaching a breaking point in how much they can spend developing a title vs. how much they can make off it. Even publishers are realizing this in their own strange, roundabout, semi-misguided way, as is evident in the buzz about games for mobile phones and such.
 
[quote name='rickonker']Wii vs. PS2 is a better comparison than Wii vs. 360.[/QUOTE]

And it still sold 200,000 more units in June.
 
[quote name='foltzie']And it still sold 200,000 more units in June.[/QUOTE]
I know, I didn't say their sales numbers were close.
 
[quote name='Zoglog']if that makes you feel better about your pathetic self.[/quote]

Hey just because I don't listen to shitty music doesn't make pathetic. But I forgive you for your mistake. Friends?

Anyway. Between USA and Japan, the Wii sold roughly 843,000 Nintendo Wiis. The 360 sold 217,000. If this trend continues, Nintendo will be outselling the 360 by 626,000 units every single month, not counting Europe since I didn't feel like looking for those numbers.

At this point publishers will be crazy to not put more games in the pipeline for the Wii. I expect 2008 to be completely and utterly stacked in terms of the games coming out for the Wii.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']At this point publishers will be crazy to not put more games in the pipeline for the Wii. I expect 2008 to be completely and utterly stacked in terms of the games coming out for the Wii.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but will they be good games? Sure, up until now most 3rd party titles have been terrible, but we could blame that on publishers rushing to get anything out in order to cash in on the Wii's popularity. Now that they've had more time to develop, and the Wii no longer appears just a passing fad, will they spend the time and effort to make AAA titles? I'm still not sure they will. The Wii looks to be the perfect opportunity for a small developer to make a name for themselves.
 
i'm so amazed that the wii hasn't let up in sales. and this last month npd had the wii even beating ds. just crazy. i'm assuming that that all these late 07 games will only continue the hype into next year.

what makes me most happy about this is the hope that we'll get more 3rd party games that wouldn't have come to nintendo previously.
 
Denial, denial, denial.

This is Wii's generation, publishers better recognize, and not with this shovelware, cruisin' junk. It's possible to make great games on less-than-great hardware. Whoever makes that happen stands to make a great deal of money. Can't argue with that.
 
These NPD numbers are fucking crazy. Almost a million units of Nintendo hardware sold in a month without major releases IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.

PS3 price drop and it still didn't beat the 360, even in a month with the only 360 news being that they're fixing all the broken ones.

It just makes me giddy to see Nintendo back on top after years of "they'll go 3rd party next gen" bullcrap.
 
I really enjoy Cut Chemist. I have lots of his music.

The games will come eventually. Judging from the list of games on Gamestop.com the Wii has quite a few impressive third party titles, stuff like My Sims, Harvest Moon, NiGHTS, Geometry Wars: Galaxies, Zak & Wiki, RE: Umbrella Chronicles, Ghost Squad, Soul Calibur Legends, DDR, Trauma Center 2, and a bunch more. Then factor in the first party stuff? Crazy. Fire Emblem, Batalion Wars, Super Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros Brawl. Wow. That's not too shabby. Get in line now for your Wii because if you don't have it yet, you'll be waiting until next year.
 
I have yet seen a used Wii at gamestop around here rarely see new ones as well.. Can't believe how hard they are to get almost a year into its release...
 
Actually, strangely enough I saw Wiis at two disparate locations yesterday (Gamecrazy) and today (Fred Meyer). The Fred Meyer ones were sitting there in the case Friday at 6pm - they get shipments in the AM (and on Thursdays too, I think), so that was telling. I'm not saying they are easy to find, but given that I have only seen them ONCE since December around here and now I've seen them on two different days at two very different stores, I think this is as easy as it will get in the leadup to holiday shipping.

It's funny, it had been so long since I saw the retail box (at Gamecrazy they just said they had them - no boxes out) that at Fred Meyer today I thought, "oh, there's some of those stupid Wii Sports accessory packs" until I took a closer look and realized it was the Wii itself with the Wii Sports included blurb on it :lol:.
 
the one thing that sticks out for me in those numbers is how much the japanese hate the xbox.

While system sales are nice, it is the software that is the big moneymaker

We all forget that the gamecube outsold the xbox1 in system sales worldwide. Software sales were another story entirely. the xbox sold loads of software, most of it in the usa.

I havent bought anything this generation aside from a psp and a d.s., but if the Wii has a price drop and some better VC games i would buy it. Or if the xbox elite dropped below $300 i might buy that.
 
[quote name='dracula']the one thing that sticks out for me in those numbers is how much the japanese hate the xbox.

While system sales are nice, it is the software that is the big moneymaker

We all forget that the gamecube outsold the xbox1 in system sales worldwide. Software sales were another story entirely. the xbox sold loads of software, most of it in the usa.

I havent bought anything this generation aside from a psp and a d.s., but if the Wii has a price drop and some better VC games i would buy it. Or if the xbox elite dropped below $300 i might buy that.[/quote]Nope, I believe Xbox outsold it by about 4 million (24 million vs. 20 million).

And yes, software is king. But if the Wii outsells the other consoles by a great enough margin, a lower attach rate could still result in greater sales.
 
I'm about to go "attach" Metroid to my Wii ;). So I'm doing my part. Of course, I'm also getting Blue Dragon tomorrow. So far my 360 and Wii purchases have been about the same (have 10-12 games for the Wii, probably a few more for 360 since I could get lots of them super-cheap).
 
[quote name='botticus']Nope, I believe Xbox outsold it by about 4 million (24 million vs. 20 million).

And yes, software is king. But if the Wii outsells the other consoles by a great enough margin, a lower attach rate could still result in greater sales.[/quote]

If software is king, turning a profit start to finish is an ace in the hole. How much did MS lose to barely edge out Nintendo?
 
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