Wii To Be Profitable At Launch.

Oh noes! A company is making money!

How dare they!? I mean, who the hell do they think they are? Trying to feed their families and have things!
 
I personally don't care if Nintendo is making money or not on the Wii hardware.

HOWEVER, one point to keep in mind is the marketing aspect of subsidizing the hardware by taking a loss. If Nintendo brags that they are making a profit on the Wii, people are going to think it only has $200 or so (despite whatever the actual numbers are) of "value". You can be DAMN sure Sony will pitch the PS3 as being heavily subsidized so that it has $900 (or whatever) of value. So while releasing the Wii at $200 may have made it seem too cheap (or inferior), releasing it at $250 and saying they are making a profit may have the same effect (at least for people paying attention to such things).

(And of course, the cheaper it is, the better it would sell, making the installed base higher, resulting in more software sales, etc, blah blah blah...)

But except to their own shareholders (though isn't Nintedo a private company?) they shouldn't make a HUGE deal about the profitability of the Wii hardware. Perhaps they are trying to reassure people that they aren't about to go under (and if they have to do that it is troublesome)?
 
I don't think there is a strong link between launch price of the hardware by itself and install base or software sales, not when the Gamecube launched at $200.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']I don't think there is a strong link between launch price of the hardware by itself and install base or software sales, not when the Gamecube launched at $200.[/QUOTE]

There may not be - but it sure doesn't help overall sales to price it higher. (Ie, $200 maybe won't sell a lot more than $250, especially at launch - but $250 sure as hell won't sell more than $200 :D). The $250 vs $200 is more likely to ba a factor 6 months after launch anyway.

I'm getting one for sure... I hope those component cables are included though. Thank goodness for the GR and EB deals I've taken advantage of over the last year+, in any case!
 
Well, if they're making a profit, we better see some more (worthwhile) first party games this go around.
 
[quote name='SpazX']That would be correct if I was trying to make a comparison. I was just letting the OP know that people that sell things make profits. It's one of those things that happens in capitalism.

Nintendo makes a profit on their consoles (for the bazillionth time) because that's all they do: make video games.[/QUOTE]
nintendo start out making playing cards. They still make them.
 
Nintendo also owns Nintendo Power Magazine and they make tons of money from that.

I believe they also own several laser shooting gallaries in Japan still (not sure on this)
 
My problem is that they are making close to $100 profit on the system after calling it family friendly. Many many third parties came out and said that the Wii should have been priced at $150-$200, but Nintendo is like "fuck what we said before, we always lie and get away with it". It's just another example of Nintendo not following through on what they say. Once they do I'll buy another system of their, but I'm not falling into that trap again.
 
[quote name='David85']My problem is that they are making close to $100 profit on the system after calling it family friendly. Many many third parties came out and said that the Wii should have been priced at $150-$200, but Nintendo is like "fuck what we said before, we always lie and get away with it". It's just another example of Nintendo not following through on what they say. Once they do I'll buy another system of their, but I'm not falling into that trap again.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, you have access to internal Nintendo documents that say how much it costs to make?

As far as any of us knows, the profit they're making on the system could be $3 a pop.

Just a quick edit too (eshbums below makes a good point), but what did Nintendo lie about re: the price? They said under $250, it's $249.99. Not as low as you wanted, but don't accuse people of lying just because they don't fulfill your pipedream price wishes.
 
[quote name='David85']My problem is that they are making close to $100 profit on the system after calling it family friendly. Many many third parties came out and said that the Wii should have been priced at $150-$200, but Nintendo is like "fuck what we said before, we always lie and get away with it". It's just another example of Nintendo not following through on what they say. Once they do I'll buy another system of their, but I'm not falling into that trap again.[/QUOTE]

$100 profit per system? Where are you getting this?

Were these "many many" third party companies taking into account everything in the final retail version...or are they saying the console by itself should have been in that price range?
 
[quote name='David85']My problem is that they are making close to $100 profit on the system after calling it family friendly. Many many third parties came out and said that the Wii should have been priced at $150-$200, but Nintendo is like "fuck what we said before, we always lie and get away with it". It's just another example of Nintendo not following through on what they say. Once they do I'll buy another system of their, but I'm not falling into that trap again.[/quote]

LOL. $100 per system, huh? You have anything to back that claim up? Don't just spew random "facts" and expect people to believe it.
 
[quote name='lebowsky']LOL. $100 per system, huh? You have anything to back that claim up? Don't just spew random "facts" and expect people to believe it.[/QUOTE]
Nintendo is stealing from orphans and tripping old ladies to make their profits!
 
[quote name='io']There may not be - but it sure doesn't help overall sales to price it higher. (Ie, $200 maybe won't sell a lot more than $250, especially at launch - but $250 sure as hell won't sell more than $200 :D). The $250 vs $200 is more likely to ba a factor 6 months after launch anyway.

I'm getting one for sure... I hope those component cables are included though. Thank goodness for the GR and EB deals I've taken advantage of over the last year+, in any case![/quote]

Component cables are included. The AV cable is going to be multi-out (component, s-video, composit) like the 360 cable.
 
$100 per system would be kinda tough. Analysts (and thereby, third parties like EA, who were simply quoting analysts, which I have to imagine is what you're referring to) have said that they could have priced the system at $170, given reduction in costs through manufacturing refinement. But that's just the system, and I'm guessing they were assuming minimum to no profit by saying "they could sell it at that." So if you say the system cost $170, the controller cost, who knows what, maybe $20 or $30, Wii Sports does cost SOMETHING, regardless of what anyone thinks of it's value... so I'd guess what we get in the box probably costs Nintendo in the area of $220-$230. If the outside analysis is correct, which it rarely is, whether higher or lower. That doesn't include retailer mark-ups and whatnot.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']I don't think there is a strong link between launch price of the hardware by itself and install base or software sales, not when the Gamecube launched at $200.[/QUOTE]
This generation is slightly different. The GC was $200 when the PS2/XBOX were $300. Not as huge a difference. Compare that to now when the lowest competitors are $300/400 and $500/600. Or, simply look back to the Neo-Geo, 3DO, etc. Price does matter to some extent, at least. Though, I doubt $50 at the $200 price level will really kill a lot of sales. Now, if the difference were $200 and $150, it might be a bigger issue.
 
[quote name='botticus']$100 per system would be kinda tough. Analysts (and thereby, third parties like EA, who were simply quoting analysts, which I have to imagine is what you're referring to) have said that they could have priced the system at $170, given reduction in costs through manufacturing refinement. But that's just the system, and I'm guessing they were assuming minimum to no profit by saying "they could sell it at that." So if you say the system cost $170, the controller cost, who knows what, maybe $20 or $30, Wii Sports does cost SOMETHING, regardless of what anyone thinks of it's value... so I'd guess what we get in the box probably costs Nintendo in the area of $220-$230. If the outside analysis is correct, which it rarely is, whether higher or lower. That doesn't include retailer mark-ups and whatnot.[/QUOTE]

You, with the logic, out of the thread.
 
Good grief - all this argument about the $250 launch price is ridiculous.

Nintendo knows that the Wii will sell briskly at that price, maybe even to the point of totally selling out their 4 million units by the years end. So in that case, why reduce their profits when they would gain NOTHING by it except for hatred from the very gamers who wanted the cheap system because they couldn't buy it?

Nintendo, like all other systems, will drop the price of the Wii and include bundles when the intial frenzy is finished. And a price drop/bundle LOOKS a lot better when the starting number is higher. Then it will go down to $200 or lower and THEN will people finally be happy?
 
[quote name='Ecofreak']THEN will people finally be happy?[/QUOTE]
Nope, at least not on the Internet. The Internet is for people to complain about everything. Even stupid things like "HOLY CRAP!!! NINTENDO DIDN'T MAKE IT THE PRICE I WANTE@#$!@#$"

The fact that people are complaining that Nintendo is selling them at a profit, or more to the point, that that means they know it will fail, continues to baffle me.
 
Richbastard=Moron that knows nothing about money. What a bitch. How dare a company make money when their goal is to make money.

Xbox lost Microsoft 4 billion dollars, or something like that. Didn't they come out third to Nintendo in worldwide sales? Even if they beat nintendo, they paid 4 billion dollars to only come in second. While Nintendo probably made a profit from day one of the GNC launch to come in a very close third to MS. Nintendo has never sold a system for a loss. Why make a topic stating the obvious. Nintendo is way fucking old and we all know that since it went in to video games they don't take it on the chin. When you get out of middleschool, you might learn some of this stuff. But for now, sit back, enjoy the ride. Cause when the real world hits you, you are in for a shock.
 
[quote name='Kendal']Richbastard=Moron that knows nothing about money. What a bitch. How dare a company make money when their goal is to make money.

Xbox lost Microsoft 4 billion dollars, or something like that. Didn't they come out third to Nintendo in worldwide sales? Even if they beat nintendo, they paid 4 billion dollars to only come in second. While Nintendo probably made a profit from day one of the GNC launch to come in a very close third to MS. Nintendo has never sold a system for a loss. Why make a topic stating the obvious. Nintendo is way fucking old and we all know that since it went in to video games they don't take it on the chin. When you get out of middleschool, you might learn some of this stuff. But for now, sit back, enjoy the ride. Cause when the real world hits you, you are in for a shock.[/QUOTE]

No, they spent $4 billion to learn about the video game console market. Given what they've done with the 360, they learned a lot for their money.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']No, they spent $4 billion to learn about the video game console market. Given what they've done with the 360, they learned a lot for their money.[/quote]

What they've done with the 360, so far, is to lose more money. They are losing a lot of money per unit of hardware sold this generation just like the Xbox. It seems like they are doing a lot more things right XBL-wise, but their hardware ain't so hot (or it's too hot depending on your viewpoint).
 
[quote name='botticus']Ceteris paribus?[/QUOTE]

That's Latin for "Look how fucking smart I am".*

*Or rather, all other things being equal, which I have no clue how it applies other than it made me laugh.

botticus of course casually points out the potential flaw in most peoples alaysis. The US bundle may well cost Nintendo $220-$230, and the stores will get a 5% or so markup meaning Nintendo will probably sell the Wii to stores for ~$240.

You do the math and suddenly that profir margin isnt so great... Not that its relevant, either you want the damn thing or you dont.
 
[quote name='iufoltzie']That's Latin for "Look how fucking smart I am".*

*Or rather, all other things being equal, which I have no clue how it applies other than it made me laugh.

botticus of course casually points out the potential flaw in most peoples alaysis. The US bundle may well cost Nintendo $220-$230, and the stores will get a 5% or so markup meaning Nintendo will probably sell the Wii to stores for ~$240.

You do the math and suddenly that profir margin isnt so great... Not that its relevant, either you want the damn thing or you dont.[/quote]
Bingo. :lol:
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']No, they spent $4 billion to learn about the video game console market. Given what they've done with the 360, they learned a lot for their money.[/quote]

Sorry, but the 360 is still taking a loss and is selling worse than dogshit in Japan. I love my 360, but it isn't that much better than the Xbox, in my opinion. Not worth the 4 billion they lost. Nintendo makes gloved hand over gloved fist every console generation, first, second or third place. They make money. I think that is worth ten fold of consoles sold. Market share is dick if you don't make money at the end of your console race. Xbox was a learning experience? They better have gotten a good degree in something for that class. Tutition really is on the rise isn't it?

Besides "OMFG DA GR@F!X111" and XBL is better this time around, what is better?

How are they running better so they won't come in second to either an over-priced under-delivered console/George Foreman Grill(with option bun warmer) or an over-priced under-powered gimmick toy for kids that leaks "k1ddy" on everything it touches and shoots rainbows of gay and lame from it's asshole? What is so different?

Are they planning on only lossing 2 billion this time? Is the price of game production really just the same, but they want to net an extra $10 for licensing fees, so we all absorb the price that way making the games $10 more expensive so by the year 2012 Xbox 360 number 90million is finally turning a profit?

Or is it that they are going to take another big hit since production values have sky rocketed, still taking a loss on systems, but microtransactions is going to cover the cost of the money lost at the point of purchasing the 360? Just wondering. I am in no way trying to be a dick, just wondering. Seriously, I love my 360.
 
[quote name='lebowsky']but their hardware ain't so hot (or it's too hot depending on your viewpoint).[/quote]
That's how they're making some of the money back on each console. :lol:
 
[quote name='lebowsky']What they've done with the 360, so far, is to lose more money. They are losing a lot of money per unit of hardware sold this generation just like the Xbox. It seems like they are doing a lot more things right XBL-wise, but their hardware ain't so hot (or it's too hot depending on your viewpoint).[/QUOTE]

You're right, short term they are losing money per unit but now that they own all the technology under the hood of the 360 they set the price and in the long run it will be more profitable for them. That's part of what I meant by them learning from the original XBox. They didn't own the entire system and as a result they relied too heavily on other companies in order to be able to do anything with their system. They're taking a hefty loss right now in order to snag everyone onto the 360 and then they're gonna be making money off the software, the arcade, etc.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']You're right, short term they are losing money per unit but now that they own all the technology under the hood of the 360 they set the price and in the long run it will be more profitable for them. That's part of what I meant by them learning from the original XBox. They didn't own the entire system and as a result they relied too heavily on other companies in order to be able to do anything with their system. They're taking a hefty loss right now in order to snag everyone onto the 360 and then they're gonna be making money off the software, the arcade, etc.[/QUOTE]
I would be interested to know what kind of profits they're making off of XBLA. I'd imagine development costs of even new things is minimal, it's got to be a cash cow of sorts.
 
[quote name='daroga']I would be interested to know what kind of profits they're making off of XBLA. I'd imagine development costs of even new things is minimal, it's got to be a cash cow of sorts.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I didn't mention that but I can only imagine that it makes them a nice chunk of change. Its baically the video game console version of the little things people download on their cell phone.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Yeah, I didn't mention that but I can only imagine that it makes them a nice chunk of change. Its baically the video game console version of the little things people download on their cell phone.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, only Geometry Wars is a lot more fun than Cell Phone bowling ;)

This is actually something that, while it hasn't gotten much press, I'm really excited about for the Wii, to see not only the classic games but new stuff coming onto the VC. Geometry Wars was literally selling 360s for a while (maybe still is, I dunno). A cheap killer app for the Wii through the VC could be interesting.
 
Lot of people here dont realize how business works.... lol

1st: Just because Microsoft lost 4 Billion in the game market, doesnt mean their gaming market net worth is negative 4 Billion right now.

2nd: People arent bitching about Nintendo Making money, and if they are, they're even more ignorant than the dumbass saying "OMG they're making money!" It's not about making some money, its about Nintendo making money off their first batch when it would of been better spent in advertising, making the Wii play DVDs, or making the system $229.99 like originally expected by a lot of people.

3rd: Some people speculate that its being planned to fail. Which any person with a business degree would say that is a VERY good possiblity. Also, given Nintendo's past issues with 3rd party support and chronically bad decisions with their consoles... it makes sense. NOT SAYING ITS THE TRUTH... just that it makes sense.

4th: In the end, who really gives a shit?

Nintendo was my first console growing up, and my first choice for every new generation. This is the first Gen I bought something other than Nintendo 1st (Xbox 360 was first). I had a R.O.B the robot and I still have just about every guide nintendo released.... my favorite games were on Nintendo consoles. But all of you bandwagon fanboys need to lay off Reggie's cock.

Reggie is NOT cool. It does not make you cool to say "Reggienator". Reggie is a business man plain and simple... maybe he's Nintendo's Steve Jobs... but he's just a fucking business man.

Yes, the tables have turned, and now its cool to like Nintendo because they're the underdog... but they're the underdog because they have made Horrible decisions. Most people know that the playstation was originally being built for Nintendo... what you may not know is that Nintendo stabbed them in the back at a press confrence by telling everyone publically that they werent going to use Sony, but a European company, Phillips. Sony found out, when everyone one else found out. In Japan, to stab another japanese company in the back and go towards a European company is extremly dishonorable. Strike one. Nintendo has also stopped supporting the last two consoles they made after about 6 months. Releasing a game, once every quarter year as 1st party is retarded... Even Sega (The worst of the worst, about fucking you in the ass for money) didnt even do that with the Dreamcast. They supported it, 100%, and when it was time to drop it, they dropped it. N64 and Gamecube have lingered like a plague. Strike two. Nintendo has also over hyped the Wii, and dropped the ball worse than Sony did with the PS3. Strike three.

A lot of people think I'm anti-Nintendo... I'm buying a Wii, and I've probably bought more Nintendo crap than most of you 19 year old fanboys have. I'm just "Anti-Nintendo-Dick-Suckers".... You guys are the reason why artists and art (Video games are an art right?) companies start to suck. You say they're so awesome, but who are you comparing them to? I see them on a downward slope, and no I'm not nostalgic (so stfu about that shit)... I just see more Mario Parties and less Mario Bros.

I've seen Nintendo make some piss poor decisions, and honestly, the Wii is lining up the same way some of their failures have.

The Wii is nowhere near as powerful or useful as the Revelution was destined to be. We were supposed to see Nintendo make the ultimate comeback and be number one again. Instead, we're getting an primarly focused emulation machine Gamecube with neat controls that'll get tiring (Not physically, just that the Wiimote is pretty limited) rather quickly. I think many companies, INCLUDING Nintendo know this, and are planning accordingly.

I dunno, I love Nintendo, I'm just pissed at their shitty business ethics... I would hate to see them fade away completely...

I dont understand why you fanboys arent pissed at them too.
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Lot of people here dont realize how business works.... lol

1st: Just because Microsoft lost 4 Billion in the game market, doesnt mean their gaming market net worth is negative 4 Billion right now.

2nd: People arent bitching about Nintendo Making money, and if they are, they're even more ignorant than the dumbass saying "OMG they're making money!" It's not about making some money, its about Nintendo making money off their first batch when it would of been better spent in advertising, making the Wii play DVDs, or making the system $229.99 like originally expected by a lot of people.

3rd: Some people speculate that its being planned to fail. Which any person with a business degree would say that is a VERY good possiblity. Also, given Nintendo's past issues with 3rd party support and chronically bad decisions with their consoles... it makes sense. NOT SAYING ITS THE TRUTH... just that it makes sense.

4th: In the end, who really gives a shit?

Nintendo was my first console growing up, and my first choice for every new generation. This is the first Gen I bought something other than Nintendo 1st (Xbox 360 was first). I had a R.O.B the robot and I still have just about every guide nintendo released.... my favorite games were on Nintendo consoles. But all of you bandwagon fanboys need to lay off Reggie's cock.

Reggie is NOT cool. It does not make you cool to say "Reggienator". Reggie is a business man plain and simple... maybe he's Nintendo's Steve Jobs... but he's just a fucking business man.

Yes, the tables have turned, and now its cool to like Nintendo because they're the underdog... but they're the underdog because they stopped supporting the last two consoles they made after about 6 months. Releasing a game, once every quarter year as 1st party is retarded... Even Sega (The worst of the worst, about fucking you in the ass for money) didnt even do that with the Dreamcast. They supported it, 100%, and when it was time to drop it, they dropped it. N64 and Gamecube have lingered like a plague.

A lot of people think I'm anti-Nintendo... I'm buying a Wii, and I've probably bought more Nintendo crap than most of you 19 year old fanboys have. I'm anti-Nintendo Dick suckers....

I've seen Nintendo make some piss poor decisions, and honestly, the Wii is lining up the same way some of their failures have.

The Wii is nowhere near as powerful or useful as the Revelution was destined to be. We were supposed to see Nintendo make the ultimate comeback and be number one again. Instead, we're getting an primarly focused emulation machine Gamecube with neat controls that'll get tiring (Not physically, just that the Wiimote is pretty limited) rather quickly. I think many companies, INCLUDING Nintendo know this, and are planning accordingly.[/quote]

Wow, just wow. Maybe I am in a different universe as everyone else, or just you. But Nintendo didn't stop supporting the GCN 6 months down the road. Also, Nintendo has bagged a shit ton more 3rd Party support for the Wii than the GCN and N64 combined. Yeah that still adds up to like a fourth or something less than what Sony has, but it is still an improvement from the years past. Nintendo has proven itself with the DS that want to go in a totally different direction from the norm that has been expected. Yes home consoles and hand helds are different ball games, but the company's attitude isn't.

Also, the Wiimote being limited? Where in the hell did you get that? I am glad that you have gone into the future, played every single game ever for the Wii and told us something that everything thus far has stated differently. I guess I am going to just buy a PS3 and play all the great games on that and totally skip out on the Wii since the controller is limiting and tiring.:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Don't even bring up Sega.
 
i don't like it either, no choice in color, forced to buy wii sports, no component cables, controllers way to expensive. Nintendo is not strong enough to lose money though. So thus we get milked the most by nintendo. A wii with component cables is now up to $300, wtf. For $100 more get a 360 premium with much more , next gen graphics, great online, hdd, headset. I really want a wii and will probably get one at launch but i still don't like the price. One DAY ONE in US gamecube made 100 million profit. JUST FROM THE CONSOLE. I was one of the launch buyers :( sucker for nintendo first party. Honestly because nintendo can't afford to lose money i don't see them with a system after wii against PS4 and what ever the new xbox is called.
 
Why would Nintendo design a system to fail?

I agree with a lot of what you said Mookyjooky, but why spend so much money to make a system fail?
 
[quote name='ananag112']Why would Nintendo design a system to fail?

I agree with a lot of what you said Mookyjooky, but why spend so much money to make a system fail?[/QUOTE]

Have you not seen 'The Producers'?
 
[quote name='ananag112']Why would Nintendo design a system to fail?

I agree with a lot of what you said Mookyjooky, but why spend so much money to make a system fail?[/QUOTE]

Failure at being #1 in the market, not a failure in profit though.

As far as saying Reggie's not cool, it's a comparative thing. He's ten times cooler then any other gaming executives in the US.

As for Sega... well they never brought out a new Nights, they never brought Sakura Taisen in the US, they fucked us over with Shining Force in the US, and a million other things. To say that Sega supported the US market better then Nintendo is turning a completely blind eye to the massive failure of the the Saturn in the US to give the Sega consumer what they wanted and to a lesser exten the Dreamcast.

As for half of the other stuff MookyJooky said, well... no. The Wiimote while expensive functions as three controllers. That certainly comes at a cost, but an extra ten bucks over the 360's wireless controllers is not that much in this day and age of collosal costs to play your damn console.

As for advertising, who the hell said the Wii isn't going to be advertised? I can understand people being mad about the bundling of Wii Sports and to a much lesser extent the lack of a DVD player, but you're blind to reality if you think that
A) Nintendo starting their advertising plan now would be effective when the whole draw of the Wii is playing the damn thing.
or B) That Nintendo will have minimal market penetration is both non-traditional and traditional advertising. Even on these forums alone, the Wii forum was just as active as the PS3 forums when we knew utterly nothing about the system. Nintendo has the market cornered on both blog support and cute little gimmicks that get picked up by news organizations (the Ellen thing, Bush getting Brain Age for his birthday, etc).

If anything, the market has shifted more then Nintendo would like it to. Back in the day, a game like Mortal Kombat was the exception rather then the norm. Today though, Halo, Halo 2, and the GTA Double Pack are three of the five highest selling Xbox games of all time. Nintendo has been ineffective in establishing IPs that cater to an adult audience beyond simply adopting Metroid.

As for bitching about colors and optional costs.... shut up. The 360 and PS3 are missing things that arguably should be included in the system whether it be an HDMI cable, an internal wireless adapter, or something to actually play out of the box. And as for everyone bitching about Wii Sports, so far from every news outlet I read, it's been the mostm universally praised game. IGN likes Wii Sports. 1up likes Wii Sports. USA Today, the NY Times, Time magazine, Gamespot, and everyone else I read has had nothing but praise about the game. I get disliking the fact that you don't get an option, but I don't get the hatered of a game that everyone has liked that's played it that few of us have tried.
 
Of course Nintendo's console could be designed to fail.

I mean, Juka designs every one of his posts to fail, and fail they do.
 
[quote name='Strell']Of course Nintendo's console could be designed to fail.

I mean, Juka designs every one of his posts to fail, and fail they do.[/QUOTE]

BAAAAZING!
 
[quote name='panasonic']i don't like it either, no choice in color, forced to buy wii sports, no component cables, controllers way to expensive. Nintendo is not strong enough to lose money though. So thus we get milked the most by nintendo. A wii with component cables is now up to $300, wtf. For $100 more get a 360 premium with much more , next gen graphics, great online, hdd, headset. I really want a wii and will probably get one at launch but i still don't like the price. One DAY ONE in US gamecube made 100 million profit. JUST FROM THE CONSOLE. I was one of the launch buyers :( sucker for nintendo first party. Honestly because nintendo can't afford to lose money i don't see them with a system after wii against PS4 and what ever the new xbox is called.[/QUOTE]

What is the deal with the component cables? I have people telling me in other threads that the standard A/V cable is like the 360 one and includes component? Where is your info coming from?
 
Okay so let me get this straight. We are getting a system that will totally rock. Nintendo is making a profit. And.... this is wrong......... how? I mean I've always felt that the company who puts out a good product deserves to be making a profit at the end of the day. That's the goal of any good business.

And in this case I'm glad it happens to be Nintendo. :)
 
[quote name='daroga']Yeah, only Geometry Wars is a lot more fun than Cell Phone bowling ;)[/QUOTE]

Or Elf Bowling 1 & 2 for the Nintendo DS for that matter. :lol:

Then again the smell from my shits are more fun than Elf Bowling....
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Or Elf Bowling 1 & 2 for the Nintendo DS for that matter. :lol:[/QUOTE]
Ugh, I should smack you right now. ;)
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']
Reggie is NOT cool. It does not make you cool to say "Reggienator". [/QUOTE]
Someone had to say it

And QFT


As for Nintendo making money...I dont care either way. Its their choice. If it hurts them in the long run its their fault, if not, good for them.
 
[quote name='io']What is the deal with the component cables? I have people telling me in other threads that the standard A/V cable is like the 360 one and includes component? Where is your info coming from?[/quote]

NINTENDO HAS SAID that it will come iwht only STANDARD A/V cable. NOOOOO COMPONENT. Even though each game is at 480p standard they decide that component will be sold out of box for near $40. IGN FAQ also confirms it does not come with component cables. It comes with the normal A/V. :bomb:
 
[quote name='panasonic']NINTENDO HAS SAID that it will come iwht only STANDARD A/V cable. NOOOOO COMPONENT. Even though each game is at 480p standard they decide that component will be sold out of box for near $40. IGN FAQ also confirms it does not come with component cables. It comes with the normal A/V. :bomb:[/QUOTE]
Are we just making up prices? That seems... unuseful.
 
[quote name='panasonic']NINTENDO HAS SAID that it will come iwht only STANDARD A/V cable. NOOOOO COMPONENT. Even though each game is at 480p standard they decide that component will be sold out of box for near $40. IGN FAQ also confirms it does not come with component cables. It comes with the normal A/V. :bomb:[/QUOTE]


Well, that FAQ wasn't up when I posted (or I wasn't aware of it). I hope the component cables come in less than that, but who knows... I've posted my feelings on the non-included component cables elsewhere this evening. Summary - not happy.
 
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