Wii U - General Discussion Thread

Yeah, I'm over it, especially since the Challenges app is so good. But the release date is going to kill it.

About Sonic Lost World being a Wii U exclusive, apparently it's part of a 3-game exclusivity deal with Nintendo, along with Mario & Sonic at the Olympics and another mystery Sonic game. I think Sonic being exclusive to Nintendo is really surprising as well as a pretty good move for Nintendo, considering they know where their bases lie. If Sonic Racing can sell 300,000+ copies on Wii U, imagine how much this is going to do.
 
I'm confused about New Super Luigi - If i have 4-5 people who know how to play the game, does one of them still have to play as the character built for non-gamers or can we pick 3 toads?
 
All of the announcements from this Nintendo Direct:

  • Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games: The game includes a variety of events from the Winter Games, including curling, skiing, figure skating pairs and snowboard slopestyle – which will make its Olympic debut in Sochi, Russia. Different events might use the Wii Remote Plus controller, Wii U GamePad controller or both. In addition to realistic events, the game also includes those set in the worlds of Sonic and Mario that let players perform moves not possible in real life. Launch details and timing will be announced at a later date.

  • Experience Games from Nintendo's E3 Booth at Best Buy: Exclusively at participating Best Buy locations in the United States and Canada, consumers will be able to play some of the unreleased Wii U games featured at E3 while the event is occurring in Los Angeles. Details about locations and which games will be featured will be revealed in the coming weeks.

  • New Super Luigi U: The Year of Luigi-themed downloadable content for New Super Mario Bros. U offers players 82 updated courses. But it also includes a new playable character in multiplayer mode: Nabbit, who steals items from Toad Houses. Nabbit can't power up, but also won't take damage when he touches enemies. New Super Luigi U will be released as downloadable content for New Super Mario Bros. U in the Nintendo eShop on June 20 for $19.99. But in honor of the Year of Luigi, Nintendo is also offering a standalone packaged version of New Super Luigi U that doesn't require New Super Mario Bros. U on Aug. 25 at a suggested retail price of $29.99.

  • The Wonderful 101: The mass-action adventure from Platinum Games launches Sept. 15. Additional details will be announced after E3.

  • Pikmin 3: New playable characters Alph, Brittany and Charlie recruit the Pikmin creatures to help them gather fruit so that they can return with the seeds to save their home, Planet Koppai. Players can divide activities among the different characters, and explore separate areas in the same map with different groups of Pikmin. Using the GamePad (known as the KopPad in the game), players can view the overall map and grasp what each character and Pikmin are up to. Players also can choose their preferred control option: GamePad in conjunction with the TV, Wii Remote Plus and Nunchuk combo or GamePad only in off-TV mode. Players can also use the Wii Remote Plus and Nunchuk with the GamePad as a second-screen monitor. Pikmin 3 launches Aug. 4.

  • GAME & WARIO: The game launches in stores and in the Nintendo eShop June 23 at a suggested retail price of $39.99, and includes a number of games from WarioWare, Inc., that use the GamePad in different ways. Newly revealed games include: Island, which lets two to five people launch little creatures called Fronks onto islands in the sea to score points; Patchwork, a puzzle game that tests players' pattern-recognition skills; and Kung-Fu, which challenges players to help Young Cricket navigate a course safely using the forward-looking view on the TV and the top-down view on the GamePad. A new Iwata Asks feature offers more details about the game at http://iwataasks.nintendo.com.

  • Resident Evil Revelations: Capcom's horror-survival game is launching in stores and in the Nintendo eShop on May 21. The game originally released for Nintendo 3DS, and the Wii U version offers players updated HD graphics, GamePad controls and new game content. Players can use the GamePad to view the map and change items using the touch screen without pausing their progress. Or they can play the full game on the GamePad in off-TV mode, or play with the Wii U Pro Controller. The game is Miiverse-compatible, and a demo version is currently available in the Nintendo eShop.
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[quote name='theflicker']The E3 demos at BB sounds like a good idea to me. It's a shame that it's limited to 100 locations.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. It's like 'here's this awesome thing that MOST OF YOU WILL NEVER SEE'.

I'm hoping they'll be swiftly followed by eShop demos, but we'll see.
 
[quote name='Javery']Anyone else think that Nintendo is just lost and in way over their heads? It depresses me.[/QUOTE]

Do you hear that? It's a Blaster man getting his wings.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Sonic Lost World being exclusive to Wii U/3DS is really weird to me, considering Sonic CD, Sonic 4-2, Sonic Adventure 1/2 and Sonic Generations weren't on Wii, along with no mention of bringing those to Wii U.[/QUOTE]

I haven't watched the Direct yet, but I guess there was no mention of Sega legacy titles coming to Wii U eshop? I would love to see some Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, and other latter-day Sega classics.
 
[quote name='coolz481']I haven't watched the Direct yet, but I guess there was no mention of Sega legacy titles coming to Wii U eshop? I would love to see some Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, and other latter-day Sega classics.[/QUOTE]

No, unfortunately.

And the EA guy just sounds like someone stole his lunch money.
 
[quote name='coolz481']I haven't watched the Direct yet, but I guess there was no mention of Sega legacy titles coming to Wii U eshop? I would love to see some Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, and other latter-day Sega classics.[/QUOTE]
They only announced more Game Gear games for 3DS.
 
[quote name='Javery']Anyone else think that Nintendo is just lost and in way over their heads? It depresses me.[/QUOTE]

Nope, I think it's third parties that are failing to realize that bigger, better, and more expensive isn't a consistent business plan. Giant Bombcast had a really interesting discussion about the upcoming next generation of games in either this week or last week's episode.

They pointed out that budgets are getting bigger and bigger on these AAA games to the point that just 1 bad selling game can break an entire year. Most specifically, they cited Take-Two, who despite having big sellers in Bioshock Infinite and Borderlands 2 over the past year they have essentially broken even with very little profit mainly because of how low sales for Max Payne 3 ended up being. More recently you've got Tomb Raider which, despite selling 3.6 million copies, was still disappointing in sales.

Yet, through all of this, the industry is clamoring for new consoles thus dramatically increasing development costs (again) while simultaneously starting back to zero in terms of console user base.

Is there almost any way new titles launching on these consoles will be able to sell 3-4 million copies at launch? Not a chance, unless they have an absolutely ridiculous amount of consoles available for launch, it's just not attainable...
 
[quote name='renique46']Nintendo would be stupid to allow W101 to be released anywhere around Sept.[/QUOTE]

any game coming out in september will just be buried behind gta. but some reason saints row 4 is coming out late aug.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Nope, I think it's third parties that are failing to realize that bigger, better, and more expensive isn't a consistent business plan. Giant Bombcast had a really interesting discussion about the upcoming next generation of games in either this week or last week's episode.

They pointed out that budgets are getting bigger and bigger on these AAA games to the point that just 1 bad selling game can break an entire year. Most specifically, they cited Take-Two, who despite having big sellers in Bioshock Infinite and Borderlands 2 over the past year they have essentially broken even with very little profit mainly because of how low sales for Max Payne 3 ended up being. More recently you've got Tomb Raider which, despite selling 3.6 million copies, was still disappointing in sales.

Yet, through all of this, the industry is clamoring for new consoles thus dramatically increasing development costs (again) while simultaneously starting back to zero in terms of console user base.

Is there almost any way new titles launching on these consoles will be able to sell 3-4 million copies at launch? Not a chance, unless they have an absolutely ridiculous amount of consoles available for launch, it's just not attainable...[/QUOTE]

why would dev cost go up most game's that come out for major systems also have pc ports and next gen systems are pretty much mid range gaming pc cost will not go up at all it might even be cheaper on their end seeing they don't need to downgrade games from pc level to 360/ps3 level.
 
[quote name='Deader2818']Not everyone plays GTA and people do get bored if it very fast.[/QUOTE]

gta 4 has been in the top 10 games played on xbox live since it was released five years ago every single month
 
what is with nintendo being cry babys and putting copy right strikes and game play of their games on youtube now. I just got all my new super mario bros wii u game play taken down and it's a major issue right now.
 
[quote name='TimboSliceGB']what is with nintendo being cry babys and putting copy right strikes and game play of their games on youtube now. I just got all my new super mario bros wii u game play taken down and it's a major issue right now.[/QUOTE]
I'm confused. Who's crying in this situation?
 
[quote name='TimboSliceGB']what is with nintendo being cry babys and putting copy right strikes and game play of their games on youtube now. I just got all my new super mario bros wii u game play taken down and it's a major issue right now.[/QUOTE]
It was big in the news the other day. I actually posted about it here. Evidently people are going to watch gameplay videos and not bother buying their games. yeah, THAT'S the reason they're having low sales numbers. They do not understand the Internet.
 
[quote name='Blaster man']It was big in the news the other day. I actually posted about it here. Evidently people are going to watch gameplay videos and not bother buying their games. yeah, THAT'S the reason they're having low sales numbers. They do not understand the Internet.[/QUOTE]

if anything it helps them. i know their has been many games i was not going to buy till i seen a video of it on youtube and changed my mind
 
[quote name='TimboSliceGB']wii u has been out six months now out of the blue nintendo decides to start taking video off of youtube something is fishy and makes no sense[/QUOTE]

Im pretty sure you are full of shit since Nintendo has said the aren't looking to take any videos down on youtube and instead want to put ads for up coming games before the videos start.
 
It was my understanding that they weren't removing videos but just demanding ad revenue from said videos if they use Nintendo IP. That is perfectly within their right, however, it might not be a great strategy. They'd have to balance the slight increase in ad revenue with the ill-will generated and possible loss of free advertising if people decide to do fewer of these videos. All in all, I'd say it is a bad move, though not as outrageous as people make it out to be.
 
[quote name='Deader2818']Im pretty sure you are full of shit since Nintendo has said the aren't looking to take any videos down on youtube and instead want to put ads for up coming games before the videos start.[/QUOTE]

um i just had every single video i put up of me playing full game of mario wii u and couple zombie U taken down on copyright strikes and people like dsp big name on youtube had the same thing happen. don't call me a idiot if you don't know what your talking about .
 
[quote name='Deader2818']Nintendo is not talking down videos. If they were taken down youtube did it and not Nintendo.

Also, I did not call you an idiot, lol.[/QUOTE]

they are putting copyright strikes against videos which most of the time will make youtube take them down
 
Nintendo does not want to block videos containing content that it owns from appearing on Youtube (as many film and music publishers have), but it wants to place ads at the beginning and the end of videos featuring Nintendo games, such as Let's Plays, with that revenue going to Nintendo as opposed to the creator of the video.


"For most fan videos this will not result in any changes, however, for those videos featuring Nintendo-owned content, such as images or audio of a certain length, adverts will now appear at the beginning, next to or at the end of the clips. We continually want our fans to enjoy sharing Nintendo content on Youtube, and that is why, unlike other entertainment companies, we have chosen not to block people using our intellectual property."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/16/nintendo-enforces-copyright-on-youtube-lets-plays
 
[quote name='Deader2818']Do you have proof Nintendo is doing it? because ALL reports are saying Nintendo IS NOT making anyone take their videos down.[/QUOTE]

im looking at proof right now i got 5 copyright strikes from nintendo usa inc. this happend wed right before this media stuff started and seems like the strikes are now off my videos but i was told by machinama those videos i will now be losing money. So with this i will no longer put nintendo vids on oh well.
 
[quote name='Deader2818']That's fine, you shouldn't be making profit off other peoples intellectual property.[/QUOTE]

well im allowed to under fair use act seeing i do talk when i do gameplay seeing i stream on twitch. so under u.s law i own the copyright. no other company that makes games wants to do what nintendo is trying to do. i guess when wii u sales are low you need money.
 
[quote name='TimboSliceGB']well im allowed to under fair use act seeing i do talk when i do gameplay seeing i stream on twitch. so under u.s law i own the copyright. no other company that makes games wants to do what nintendo is trying to do. i guess when wii u sales are low you need money.[/QUOTE]

lol you clearly have no idea how much fucking money Nintendo has.

But really, are you doing these videos because you like to do it or because you need money? I don't really agree with people making money off other peoples work.
 
[quote name='Deader2818']lol you clearly have no idea how much fucking money Nintendo has.

But really, are you doing these videos because you like to do it or because you need money? I don't really agree with people making money off other peoples work.[/QUOTE]

na it's a hobby extra cash.
 
also, fair use means, yes, you can use copy righted content for commentary, criticism, news reporting, teaching, etc but fair use also says you aren't suppose to be using the copy righted content for profiting.
 
There's a reason some users are on my ignore list.

I got tired of losing brain cells trying to decipher their incoherent ramblings.

Sucks that when other CAGs quote said users you can still read their stupidity though.

Maybe this will be fixed in CAG 3.0? ;)
 
[quote name='Deader2818']also, fair use means, yes, you can use copy righted content for commentary, criticism, news reporting, teaching, etc but fair use also says you aren't suppose to be using the copy righted content for profiting.[/QUOTE]

that is false if you just show gameplay and do nothing like voice or other things to make it your own yes that's illegal. once voice or anything else is added to video it becomes my own copyright work. tell me why nintendo is first company that is taking chunk of what people get payed on video. other companys just put ads on them and nothing else.
 
[quote name='antlp89']There's a reason some users are on my ignore list.

I got tired of losing brain cells trying to decipher their incoherent ramblings.

Sucks that when other CAGs quote said users you can still read their stupidity though.

Maybe this will be fixed in CAG 3.0? ;)[/QUOTE]

cry some more if you don't like what i say don't read it
 
No, it is not false, its in the youtube user agreements, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/yt/copyright/what-is-copyright.html
http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines

Is it possible to use a copyright-protected work without infringing?

In some circumstances, it is possible to use a copyright-protected work without infringing the owner’s copyright. For more about this, you may wish to learn about fair use. It is important to note that your video can still be affected by a claim of copyright infringement, even if you have...

  1. Given credit to the copyright owner
  2. Refrained from monetizing the infringing video
  3. Noticed similar videos that appear on YouTube
  4. Purchased the content on iTunes, a CD, or DVD
  5. Recorded the content yourself from TV, a movie theater, or the radio
  6. Stated that “no copyright infringement is intended”
Notice what number 2 on there says?
 
[quote name='Deader2818']No, it is not false, its in the youtube user agreements, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/yt/copyright/what-is-copyright.html
http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines

Is it possible to use a copyright-protected work without infringing?

In some circumstances, it is possible to use a copyright-protected work without infringing the owner’s copyright. For more about this, you may wish to learn about fair use. It is important to note that your video can still be affected by a claim of copyright infringement, even if you have...

  1. Given credit to the copyright owner
  2. Refrained from monetizing the infringing video
  3. Noticed similar videos that appear on YouTube
  4. Purchased the content on iTunes, a CD, or DVD
  5. Recorded the content yourself from TV, a movie theater, or the radio
  6. Stated that “no copyright infringement is intended”
Notice what number 2 on there says?[/QUOTE]


then tell me why youtube pays gamers ad money and allows machinma do it? if it's against youtube rules then no one should be getting payed by video game videos. but seeing im a micanma partner and they give youtube their most money nintendo can copyright strike me all they want nothing will happen.
 
[quote name='Deader2818']Im not sure if im the stupid one or not, lol.[/QUOTE]

Nope.

But to me it's really not worth trying to argue with someone who lacks intelligence.

You're just wasting your time.

My opinion anyways...
 
No, I get cranky when people don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

I mean, when all news outlets reporting this say that Nintendo does not want to take videos down and you are the only one claiming they took your videos down, doesn't add up.

But yes, im a fan boy, nevermind the fact I own every fucking console.
 
[quote name='antlp89']Nope.

But to me it's really not worth trying to argue with someone who lacks intelligence.

You're just wasting your time.

My opinion anyways...[/QUOTE]

why don't you just go watch some more gay anime
 
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