XBLA - Rez HD - 800pts

[quote name='fraggedbylaggers']Nice ass except this wouldn't be overpaying. I've have recently seen Rez for Ps2 used at Gamestop for like $40. Nice try.[/quote]

My nice ass aside, I wasn't talking about Rez. You should read more carefully.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']Exactly.[/QUOTE]

So 5 dollars for an improved (either video, sound or online play) port is overpaying?

Whatever, but the XBLA is more than just 10 year old ports (Geometry Wars, Space Giraffe, Cloning Clyde and many more)
 
[quote name='Sporadic']So 5 dollars for an improved (either video, sound or online play) port is overpaying?

Whatever, but the XBLA is more than just 10 year old ports (Geometry Wars, Space Giraffe, Cloning Clyde and many more)[/quote]

I remember paying $10 for Mortal Kombat, and you couldn't even choose the level you fought on! Lame!
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']Why? You love overpaying for games that came out over 10 years ago? Way to go budday![/QUOTE]

5 bucks for some of my favorite games with online co-op? i hardly think thats over paying. sure, i might be able to go find a copy of TMNT or streets of rage for under 5 bucks somewhere, but i cant play it with my cousins out of state or my brother in the bay are or any of my friends that are spread throughout the state.


cock.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']I remember paying $10 for Mortal Kombat, and you couldn't even choose the level you fought on! Lame![/QUOTE]
Uh, Mortal Kombat didn't just start sucking because of anything in regards to XBLA. It's been sucking non-stop for 15 years now.

On XBLA, you can get Gauntlet with online co-op for $5. This is officially the greatest thing of all time. Just because Mortal Kombat is still the same herky-jerky mess it's always been isn't really reason to dismiss how awesome XBLA (and the other downloadable game services on Wii and PS3, though Wii VC is sorta lame so far, because none of the games add any functionality whatsoever, really) are.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Uh, Mortal Kombat didn't just start sucking because of anything in regards to XBLA. It's been sucking non-stop for 15 years now.

On XBLA, you can get Gauntlet with online co-op for $5. This is officially the greatest thing of all time. Just because Mortal Kombat is still the same herky-jerky mess it's always been isn't really reason to dismiss how awesome XBLA (and the other downloadable game services on Wii and PS3, though Wii VC is sorta lame so far, because none of the games add any functionality whatsoever, really) are.[/quote]


I'm not saying XBLA isn't cool, I was just making the point that it wasn't better than the games that come out for the 360, like the guy I had quoted said.

Oh, and BTW, I shall ignore everything you say for not liking Mortal Kombat. That's just how I roll.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']They should be free. What kind of CAGs are you people?![/QUOTE]

People who are realistic.

You can't possibly expect for companies to work on bringing old games over, let alone added new stuff, for zero incentive.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']People who are realistic.

You can't possibly expect for companies to work on bringing old games over, let alone added new stuff, for zero incentive.[/quote]

I think everything should be free and that companies should do exactly what I say for my pleasure.

Seriously though, i'd like to state that my posts had nothing to do with Rez or XBLA at all. I was just making the point that XBLA is NOT better than the actual games for the 360. No way, no how.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']Seriously though, i'd like to state that my posts had nothing to do with Rez or XBLA at all. I was just making the point that XBLA is NOT better than the actual games for the 360. No way, no how.[/QUOTE]

In your opinion.

I've personally bought almost ten times the amount of arcade games than I have normal retail games (3)
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']They should be free. What kind of CAGs are you people?![/quote]
The kind who aren't going to shell out $40 for Rez or Ikaruga, used, at GameStop and would prefer to shell out $5 to $15 for the games digitally downloaded onto their console, complete with achievements and possibilities of online multiplayer.

Yes, we're cheap. But we're not totally fucking anal about it where we believe everything old should be free. Hell, one of these games hasn't even been brought over to the US before.

On another note, it's nice to see some games that were once on the Dreamcast (despite a couple being in arcade first) coming to XBLA.

Now where the fuck is my ChuChu Rocket Online?!
 
[quote name='Tsukento']The kind who aren't going to shell out $40 for Rez or Ikaruga, used, at GameStop and would prefer to shell out $5 to $15 for the games digitally downloaded onto their console, complete with achievements and possibilities of online multiplayer.

Yes, we're cheap. But we're not totally fucking anal about it where we believe everything old should be free. Hell, one of these games hasn't even been brought over to the US before.

On another note, it's nice to see some games that were once on the Dreamcast (despite a couple being in arcade first) coming to XBLA.

Now where the fuck is my ChuChu Rocket Online?![/quote]
Eh, forget it. I don't want to go off topic.
 
[quote name='triforcer']my only question is how much for rez and ikaruga?[/quote]

Top dollar is worth it for Ikaruga. The most they could charge is probably a quarter what it's worth new & sealed on the Gamecube. It's worth even more on the Dreamcast.

Only thing is that Ikaruga has been "coming soon" for ages. Anytime they announce a game for XBLA, I don't let myself get excited. It's always be 6-18+ months before any of this shit gets out of Microsoft's speedy certification process. Freakin' Castle Crashers is probably going to wind up being release on the Xbox 360 2.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']And it doesn't bother you to buy something that has absolutely 0 resale value?[/quote]

Since alot of people have points built up (twister contest, smarter child, CC B1G1F) paying 400-800 points for a great game isn't a big deal at all. Hell when I heard ikaruga was coming out this past march I sold my ikaruga for $40 figuring I can get it for $5-$10 again in 6 months to a year. Expect alot of people who aren't collectors to do the same with Rez now. Some of us just want to have the game to play and don't care about the actual disk if the price is right. Granted digital still sucks and I don't think I would pay more then 800 pts...
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']And it doesn't bother you to buy something that has absolutely 0 resale value?[/quote]
No. I buy food and gas. Heh, unfair analogy, I know.

They're fun, and I can play them forever. Who cares about resale value for something that only costs $5 to $15 anyways?
 
To be honest, I have enjoyed Xbox Live Arcade a great deal. I think a lot of the older titles should be 200 instead of 400 points and 400 instead of 800 points, more robust games like Castlevania: SOTN, Prince of Persia Classic, and Rez are acceptable as 800 point downloads IMO.
 
[quote name='Rozz']I would rather see these on compilation discs... but whatever.... I've never actually bought anything on XBA, but with my $5 point card from BB I will in the future. If not for that I would probably never support it.[/quote]

IMO, you're missing out on a lot of great games. Affordable ones at that.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']In your opinion.

I've personally bought almost ten times the amount of arcade games than I have normal retail games (3)[/QUOTE]

I hear ya. I'm sitting at 41 XBLA games right now. The CC point card sale certainly helped, the purchases are low cost and easy to justify (i.e. splurge), and the consistency of which they're bringing out high quality titles doesn't hurt.

On topic, every single one of these games will be a day one purchase for me. I love Ikaruga, though all I've got is a burned Dreamcast version (Shh!) and I'd really like to be able to finally own the real thing for a reasonable price. Now if Rez would only support the Japanese pulsating USB hardware...
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Also, it is pretty damn cool to be at home, sitting on your ass, and downloading a full game without having to go the store.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I'm also a huge fan of being able to choose from numerous games, without having to get up and change out any discs or cartridges.
 
[quote name='Apossum']yeah, it's free for a reason....


and the reason is that it completely sucks ass. :lol:



I hope Rez is updated with newer electronic artists. the music is pretty outdated...they need to get some Fourtet, Squarepusher, Boards of Canada, maybe some ratatat, Animals on Wheels, Aphex Twin (even though his stuff is just as old as the stuff in game, haha)[/QUOTE]

No, no, NO! Then I won't be able to STAND the music in it. Part of Rez's charm is the music to begin with, who cares if it's considered contemporary Trance or not. I'm disappointed in you of all people saying that Apossum.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']No, no, NO! Then I won't be able to STAND the music in it. Part of Rez's charm is the music to begin with, who cares if it's considered contemporary Trance or not. I'm disappointed in you of all people saying that Apossum.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, seriously. Rez would suck with any of that music. It just wouldn't gel at all. Jeez, Apossum, do you think they should have updated the PSP port of Parappa the Rapper with the latest in underground hip-hop as well?

And furthermor, Apossum, I dunno whether or not you think that you're on the cutting edge of electronica or whatever, but like, most of those have been around longer than Rez. Boards of Canada has been releasing since the late 80s.
 
[quote name='zewone']Ikaruga was announced for XBL a long time ago (seems at least over a year ago).[/QUOTE]
Yeah.

Ikaruga, Every Extend, and Exit will be mine.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Yeah, seriously. Rez would suck with any of that music. It just wouldn't gel at all. Jeez, Apossum, do you think they should have updated the PSP port of Parappa the Rapper with the latest in underground hip-hop as well?

And furthermor, Apossum, I dunno whether or not you think that you're on the cutting edge of electronica or whatever, but like, most of those have been around longer than Rez. Boards of Canada has been releasing since the late 80s.[/QUOTE]

Well part of it is I don't know if I can't trust that stuff not to be Generic Trance crap, the kind Tranceheads like but that still sounds the same to me. I think the music of "Rez" connects with most, if not all, that play it. I don't know if the same could be said for most people with Trance.
Coffee can I get your XBL gamertag? I'd like to add you to my friend's list.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Yeah.

Ikaruga, Every Extend, and Exit will be mine.[/QUOTE]

ill be getting Ikaruga for sure, i sold my GC copy in anticipation of this xbla release. ill be picking up exit for sure as well. but ive never played EEE, i know a lot of people like it, so i might pick that one up, does it play like anything else? fyi, i think im in the vast minority when i say [shield] i wasnt impressed with lumines and ended up selling it [/shield] so i was always hesitant on EEE.
 
[quote name='Tsukento']The kind who aren't going to shell out $40 for Rez or Ikaruga, used, at GameStop and would prefer to shell out $5 to $15 for the games digitally downloaded onto their console, complete with achievements and possibilities of online multiplayer.![/QUOTE]I could see several people buying these games again just to inflate their gamer score trying to prove who doesn't get out much.

I use to have Ikaruga on GC and always felt the game is meh. REZ is cool, but I already own it on PS2.

These games will please the hardcore gamer, but they won't help the 360 at all in Japan.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I could see several people buying these games again just to inflate their gamer score trying to prove who doesn't get out much.

I use to have Ikaruga on GC and always felt the game is meh. REZ is cool, but I already own it on PS2.

These games will please the hardcore gamer, but they won't help the 360 at all in Japan.[/QUOTE]

The Japanese love their shooters, so who knows. And to say that it won't help the 360 at all is simply laughable. It's not a question of if it'll help, but how much will it help?

Personally, I think it'll help ever so slightly, but not enough to suddenly get them second place from the PS3.
 
never played Rez, and I feel like I am missing out.

I'll pass on Ikaruga since I've had the Gamecube version.

Never even heard of the rest.
 
OXM has posted impressions along with some small pics:
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We’ve known this one has been coming for a while, but we finally got a chance to get all up-close-and-personal with a very near-final version of XBLA’s Rez HD, a retooling of the visually experimental Dreamcast shooter. The “HD” in the title points to the fact that co-developers Q Entertainment and Hexadrive have, in fact, rezzed up (har) the original with new visual effects, as well as modernized the graphics and sound to accommodate the hi-def demands of 360 gamers. The result, thus far, is a faithfully tripadelic redux of the fast-paced arcade shooter, only with more cowbell.
But what if you never had the chance to play the original on your Japanese Dreamcast or U.S. PlayStation 2? Well, never fear — as hardcore as the game may look and seem, Rez HD’s gameplay really can’t be much more simple or basic. In fact, if you’ve ever played an arcade-style 2D shooter, you’re already two-thirds of the way there.

With the A button held down, you’ll enable your reticle — controlled with the left analog stick — to lock onto up to seven different objects. Once you release the A button, you’ll fire off lasers to destroy the highlighted targets. You can lock onto the same enemy object multiple times if it’s particularly tough — and you’ll have to do this in each of the game’s level-ending boss face-offs. Along the way, you can collect power-ups that enable a smart bomb–like screen-clearing explosion, or that gas up a meter that helps your character “evolve” into higher forms…like a throbbing green nucleus. But take a hit from an enemy and you’ll get kicked back down the evolutionary scale.


All of this sounds like so much fodder for every shooter that has clawed its way into old-school existence, but Rez’s special sprinkling of pixie dust is in its presentation and simplified ambition. Like much of Q’s past work (Lumines Live!, E4, Space Channel 5), Rez combines music and graphics to be much more than just shooting crap on a screen — there’s a definite attempt to elevate the experience to something more transcendent. The beats, bleeps, and blips in the game’s ambient, trance-skewed soundtrack correspond directly with the gameplay. Lock on to multiple enemies at once and you’ve just strung together a series of hi-hat riffs. Fire off those lasers and you’ve got a bassy string of squeaks. And let's not forget Rez HD’s pulsating backdrops and technicolor paint job. The better you do, the more elaborate the landscape becomes — keep excelling, and subtle differences in the stage reveal themselves to you. The whole affair raises the shooter experience to more of a mind-altering trip than anything — and luckily, it's done without veering too far into Space Giraffe territory. Sure, there’s plenty of visual over-stimulation going on, but you’ll never be confused or lost.


What the devs have added for this XBLA upgrade — aside from 5.1 digital sound and enhanced, retooled graphics — is minor at best. A leaderboard option is open to high-score addicts who go into Score Attack mode for pure point-nabbing pleasure. You’ll also be able to play Rez HD in its original resolution. But really, from what we’ve played of the game so far in its XBLA incarnation, Rez HD is more about recapturing an experience that many of us may have missed the first time out. We know we’ll be ready to download it onto our 360s come late January.

http://oxmonline.com/article/previews/s-z/hands-rez-hd
 
Confirmed to be 800pts and be relased in the next few weeks:
Q Entertainment just shot an email out to our iron-fisted rulers at Joystiq to tell everyone that Rez HD will release to the Xbox Live Arcade in "only a few weeks" and that it'll be priced at a soothing 800 Microsoft points.

Q also sent some new in-game screenshots which show off its trippy visuals (we've added them to the recently created gallery) and confirmed that Rez HD will sport updated 5.1 audio, new visuals and a Replay Theater to further induce brain seizures. Joystiq also confirmed that Rez HD on the 360 will feature its own version of the infamous PS2 Trance Vibrator where you'll have the option to enable rumble on three additional Xbox 360 controllers, place them wherever you choose and let the Rez vibrating bliss ensue. And yes, we're afraid to see how people will use that "feature"

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/01/08/hold-on-rez-hd-releases-to-the-xbla-this-month/
 
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