The hell with it. I just preordered the god awful EB bundle for almost $800. Since the system itself will probably be that or better on ebay shortly after launch, guess it's not that bad. OK, I don't even believe that, but it is better than Gamestop's bundle at the very least. And it can always be canceled if something better presents itself. Just curious, since Wally world appears to have pulled the 360 bundles (I'm just assuming there's no way in hell the core bundles sold out), would someone that did order one while they were up post if Wal-Mart cancels the order or not? Hopefully not, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they did. Now I just have to figure out how to get the 800 frikkin dollars in the next month and a half. Joy. Well at least it IS better than sleeping outside at Target or spending 16 hours in a line at Wal-mart only to be told "You wanted the core thingie, right? 'cause that's all we got". I could totally see Wal-Mart doing that. On a total tangent, does anyone remember for sure the last time a system launched with 2 versions? I know the Neo Geo did (Gold and silver-at least I'm pretty sure they were both at launch), but I don't remember if both 3DOs launched at the same time. And no, different colors doesn't count. I mean actual different packages, like this one. If anyone remembers for sure, let me know. I would advise anyone who wants one at launch to go ahead and preorder one at eb. You can always cancel and that way you are in the queue if nothing better becomes available. Credit card is not charged until 10 days before shipment, btw. Any bets on which of those games won't be at launch. DOA4 and PGR3 probably will be. If PD0 is, it will probably be rushed crap, and there's just no way Kameo can be. I mean it just wouldn't be right. It's been delayed so many times before, it would just be anti-climatic to make any deadline.