Xbox Deals and Discussion

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Welcome to the Xbox Deals and Discussion thread.

General info

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• You cannot currently buy any Xbox 360 content on xbox.com using your account balance, you can only use an active credit card or PayPal. To use your balance, you must make purchases on your console. Unfortunately, even "purchasing" free content through the web site like trials requires an alternative method of payment tied to your account, though adding an empty MasterCard / Visa gift card that is registered for online purchases will work. Xbox One games can be purchased on the web site with your account balance.
• Some sales are intended for Gold subscribers only, as noted within each section.
  On Xbox One, Gold trials of any length work for sales and Games with Gold. You must be an active Gold subscriber (paid or trial) to play Games with Gold purchases.
• On Xbox 360, you must have at least a 1 month Gold subscription for sales and Games with Gold. Neither 48 hour trials, 14 day trials nor free weekends qualify.

• All known sales and information on sales should make their way into the OP. Major Nelson usually updates his blog with new sales information every Tuesday.
• ALL OFFERS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE! No information within this thread can or should be construed as accurate (or still valid), therefore ...
• Always verify Xbox Live Marketplace prices before your purchase!
• Spend wisely, have fun, and enjoy!

Latest Sales Posts​

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May 27 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

May 22 - Warhammer​

May 21 - "Just for Everyone" deals - Party Games​

May 20 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

May 16 - Mid-week drops​

May 13 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

May 13 - Non-BC discounts​

May 6 - Weekly Sale​

Apr 29 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Apr 22 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

Apr 18 - Game Pass Super Saver / Publisher Spotlight​

Apr 15 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Apr 8 - Weekly Sale - Last chance (discounts ending morning of Apr 9)​

Apr 4 - Spring Sale - Part 2​

Apr 1 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

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Mar 28 - Spring Sale Sneak Preview​

Mar 25 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Mar 18 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Mar 11 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Mar 4 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Feb 26 - Weekly Sale​

Feb 19 - Weekly Sale​

Feb 14 - Anime Month, Pt 2​

Feb 12 - Weekly Sale​

Feb 5 - Weekly Sale​

Jan 31 - Anime Month​

Jan 29 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Jan 22 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Jan 16 - Exoprimal / Street Fighter 6​

Jan 15 - Weekly Sale​

Jan 8 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Jan 2 - Last Chance Sale​

Jan 1 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Dec 25 - Weekly Sale​

Dec 18 - Weekly Sale​

Countdown Sale - Post 1 - Post 2 - Post 3 - Follow up​

Latest Countdown Posts​

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May 27 - Pre-weekly countdown​

May 20 - Pre-weekly countdown​

May 13 - Pre-weekly countdown​

May 6 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 29 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 22 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 15 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 8 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 4 - Spring Sale final preview​

Apr 1 - Pre-weekly countdown, with Spring Sale​

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Mar 28 - Spring Sale Sneak Preview​

Mar 25 - Pre-weekly countdown, with Spring Sale​

Mar 18 - Pre-weekly countdown, with Spring Sale​

Mar 12 - Initial Spring Sale list​

Mar 11 - Post-weekly countdown​

Mar 4 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 26 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 19 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 12 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 5 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 29 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 22 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 15 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 8 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 2 - Last chance countdown​

Jan 1 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Dec 25 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Dec 18 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Dec 14 - Look ahead at Dec 18 weekly​

Game Pass potential departure dates​

Last updated - 2024-05-28

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What is this?

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Game prices in the Xbox store have a UTC end date associated with them. These dates generally fall into 5 categories :

1. The item is currently on sale. These are usually the weekly sale items that end Tuesday mornings at 09:59:59 UTC.
2. The item will go on sale, usually within 2-3 weeks. These are usually set to switch at 23:59:59 UTC, like the weekly sale on Monday evenings. Some of the major annual sales (Spring, Summer, Black Friday, Holiday) start on Thursday evening UTC, and some times appear to be random.
3. The item is on Game Pass and is not currently or going to be on sale in the next few weeks. Third party games generally cluster around 09:59:59 UTC on the 1st and 16th of each month. Currently, at least one game is associated with every 1st and 16th through January 2025. The dates then spread out, ending with Human Fall Flat on July 1, 2028.
4. First party and EA Play titles are farther out, starting in 2049, with many in 2799 and 9998.
5. No date - some items do not have a price and so don't have a date. If the item is part of a bundle that has a price, the date from the bundle is used.

The list below uses the dates associated with games on Game Pass and EA Play. Time stamps in red are the regular Game Pass departure times and titles in red are confirmed to be leaving, either from Microsoft's regular news postings or by devs / publishers. Items available through Game Pass Core, currently on sale or not available for purchase are also color coded.

The date associated with a Game Pass game is not a guarantee it will leave on that date, but since March 2023 when the price data started getting analyzed, every game that's left Game Pass had been flagged as leaving on that date. It's given a number of people an extra heads up on the generally 2 week notice Microsoft provides.

If you have any questions about the list, please ask in the thread.

Most likely current and pending sales

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2024-05-31 09:59:59

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun​

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide​

2024-06-03 23:59:59

Broken Age (PC)​

Dead by Daylight Windows (PC)​

Dishonored® Definitive Edition (PC) (PC)​

Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™ (PC) (PC)​

DOOM Eternal Standard Edition (PC) (PC)​

Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes​

Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes (Not available for purchase)​

Fallout (PC)​

Fallout 2 (PC)​

Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (PC)​

Fallout 4 (PC) (PC)​

Fallout 76 - PC (PC)​

Fallout Tactics (PC)​

Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition (PC)​

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition for Windows 10 (PC)​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection (PC)​

Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition (PC)​

Pillars of Eternity: Definitive Edition (PC)​

Prey (PC)​

Psychonauts (Windows 10) (PC)​

Quantum Break (PC)​

RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Windows (PC)​

Rise of Nations: Extended Edition (PC)​

SpiderHeck​

Sunset Overdrive (PC)​

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition (PC) (PC)​

The Outer Worlds (PC)​

The Yakuza Remastered Collection for Windows 10 (PC)​

Torment: Tides of Numenera (PC)​

Wolfenstein II: Standard Edition (PC)​

Wolfenstein: The New Order (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein: Youngblood (PC) (PC)​

2024-06-04 09:59:59

Airborne Kingdom​

Assassin's Creed® Odyssey​

Assassin's Creed® Origins​

Atomic Heart​

Atomic Heart (Windows) (PC)​

Call of the Wild: The Angler™​

Car Mechanic Simulator 2021​

Cities: Skylines - Xbox One Edition​

Dead Cells - Game Pass Core​

Far Cry® 6​

FOR HONOR​

From Space​

House Flipper​

Human Fall Flat - Game Pass Core​

Jurassic World Evolution 2​

Lightyear Frontier (Game Preview)​

Medieval Dynasty​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase)​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

Monster Hunter Rise​

Monster Sanctuary​

Ni no Kuni Wrath of the White Witch™ Remastered​

No Man's Sky​

PAYDAY 3​

Scorn​

SnowRunner​

SnowRunner (Windows 10) (PC)​

Tales of Arise​

Tales of Arise (Xbox One) (Not available for purchase)​

Tales of Arise (Xbox Series X|S) (Not available for purchase)​

theHunter: Call of the Wild™​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege (Not available for purchase)​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege Deluxe Edition​

2024-05-29 17:59:59

The Rewinder​

2024-05-31 15:59:59

Tell Me Why - Tell Me Why: Chapter 2 (Not available for purchase)​

Tell Me Why - Tell Me Why: Chapter 3 (Not available for purchase)​

Tell Me Why: Chapters 1-3​

2024-06-01 09:59:59

Assassin's Creed® Origins​

Batman™: Arkham Knight​

Chicory: A Colorful Tale​

Cricket 22​

Farworld Pioneers​

FOR HONOR​

Generation Zero®​

Insurgency: Sandstorm​

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle R​

LEGO® Star Wars™: The Skywalker Saga (Game Pass only SKU) (Not available for purchase)​

Little Witch in the Woods (Game Preview)​

NINJA GAIDEN 3: Razor's Edge (Not available for purchase)​

NINJA GAIDEN Σ (Not available for purchase)​

NINJA GAIDEN Σ2 (Not available for purchase)​

NINJA GAIDEN: Master Collection​

PAC-MAN MUSEUM+​

Railway Empire 2​

Railway Empire 2 (Win) (PC)​

Rune Factory 4 Special​

Rune Factory 4 Special - Windows Edition (PC)​

Soccer Story​

Spacelines from the Far Out​

2024-06-08 15:59:59

Little Kitty, Big City​

2024-06-09 09:59:59

Diablo® IV (Not available for purchase)​

2024-06-16 09:59:59

ASTRONEER - Game Pass Core​

Bramble: The Mountain King (moved from 2024-07-01)​

Dordogne​

Dordogne (Windows) (PC)​

High On Life​

Mortal Kombat 11​

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge - Game Pass Core​

The Bookwalker: Thief of Tales​

2024-06-16 23:59:59

Lightyear Frontier (Game Preview)​

2024-06-17 03:59:59

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase)​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

2024-06-18 08:59:59

The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited (Not available for purchase)​

2024-06-20 07:59:59

Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II​

2024-06-22 13:59:59

Galacticare​

Hauntii​

2024-06-23 09:59:59

Minecraft​

Minecraft Dungeons​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Legends​

Minecraft Legends - Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Legends for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft: Java & Bedrock Edition for PC (PC)​

Minecraft: Java Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

2024-06-26 15:59:59

Open Roads​

2024-07-01 09:59:59

Arcade Paradise​

F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch​

Far Cry® 5​

Injustice™ 2​

Injustice™ 2 - Standard Edition (PC)​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Digital Edition​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Windows Edition (PC)​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Windows Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town (Not available for purchase)​

Stranded Deep​

Stranded Deep (PC)​

Sword and Fairy: Together Forever​

2024-07-08 13:59:59

Botany Manor​

Botany Manor (PC)​

2024-07-15 12:59:59

Harold Halibut​

2024-07-16 09:59:59

Coffee Talk Episode 2: Hibiscus and Butterfly​

Common'hood​

Figment 2: Creed Valley​

Forager​

Forager (PC)​

Frostpunk (PC)​

Frostpunk: Console Edition​

Middle-earth™: Shadow of War™ (moved from 2024-01-01)​

My Friend Peppa Pig​

Neon Abyss​

Neon Abyss (PC)​

Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion (PC)​

The Wandering Village (Game Preview)​

TOEM​

Watch Dogs®2​

2024-07-24 15:59:59

Another Crab's Treasure​

2024-07-25 12:59:59

Manor Lords (Game Preview) (PC)​

2024-08-01 09:59:59

A Short Hike​

Genesis Noir​

Genesis Noir: Windows Edition (PC)​

Goat Simulator (moved from 2024-05-01)​

Inkulinati​

Roboquest​

This War of Mine: Final Cut (moved from 2024-05-16)​

Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon® Wildlands - Standard Edition (Game Pass only SKU)​

Train Sim World® 4 (Not available for purchase)​

Train Sim World® 4: Standard Edition​

Turbo Golf Racing​

Venba​

2024-08-16 09:59:59

Airborne Kingdom​

Atomic Heart​

Atomic Heart (Windows) (PC)​

Conan Exiles​

EVERSPACE™ 2​

HUMANKIND™​

HUMANKIND™ (PC)​

Offworld Trading Company (PC)​

Shadow Warrior 3: Definitive Edition​

Shadow Warrior 3: Definitive Edition (PC)​

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre​

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre - PC Edition (PC)​

2024-09-01 09:59:59

Call of the Wild: The Angler™​

Disney Dreamlight Valley​

Goat Simulator Windows 10 (PC)​

Guilty Gear -Strive-​

Immortals Fenyx Rising™​

NBA 2K24 for Xbox One​

NBA 2K24 for Xbox Series X|S​

2024-09-16 09:59:59

Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation (PC)​

Assassin's Creed® Odyssey​

Ni no Kuni™ II: Revenant Kingdom - The Prince's Edition​

Party Animals (moved from 2024-01-04)​

PAYDAY 3​

Slime Rancher 2​

SpiderHeck​

Valheim (Game Preview)​

You Suck at Parking® Complete Edition​

2024-10-01 09:59:59

Cocoon​

Gotham Knights​

Let's Build a Zoo​

Loop Hero​

My Time At Portia (moved from 2024-01-09)​

My Time At Portia (PC)​

PAW Patrol: Grand Prix​

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy​

The Walking Dead: Season 1 (PC)​

The Walking Dead: Season 2 (PC)​

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide​

2024-10-16 09:59:59

Dyson Sphere Program (Game Preview) (PC)​

F1® Manager 2023​

From Space​

Like a Dragon: Ishin!​

Scorn​

Stellaris (PC)​

Stellaris: Console Edition​

2024-11-01 09:59:59

Deep Rock Galactic - Game Pass Core​

Football Manager 2024 (PC)​

Football Manager 2024 Console​

Frog Detective: The Entire Mystery (moved from 2023-11-01)​

Headbangers: Rhythm Royale​

Lonely Mountains: Downhill​

Mineko's Night Market​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 2 (PC)​

2024-11-16 09:59:59

Dicey Dungeons​

Dune: Spice Wars​

Dungeons 4​

Dungeons 4 (Win) (PC)​

Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name​

Persona 5 Tactica​

Somerville​

2024-12-01 09:59:59

Amnesia: The Bunker​

Car Mechanic Simulator 2021​

Clone Drone in the Danger Zone​

Monster Sanctuary​

Monster Sanctuary (Windows Version) (PC)​

Moonlighter​

PAW Patrol Mighty Pups Save Adventure Bay​

Remnant: From the Ashes​

Rise of the Tomb Raider (PC)​

Rollerdrome​

Spirit of the North: Enhanced Edition​

The Walking Dead: The Final Season - The Complete Season​

The Walking Dead: The Final Season (PC)​

While the Iron's Hot​

World War Z: Aftermath​

World War Z: Aftermath (PC)​

2024-12-16 09:59:59

Ben 10: Power Trip​

Hello Neighbor 2​

No Man's Sky​

Rainbow Billy: The Curse of the Leviathan​

The Gunk​

The Quarry for Xbox One​

The Quarry for Xbox Series X|S​

Tin Hearts​

2025-01-01 09:59:59

BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle Special Edition​

Close to the Sun​

Close to the Sun. (PC)​

Death's Door​

Death's Door (PC)​

Hell Let Loose​

House Flipper​

LEGO® 2K Drive Cross-Gen Standard Edition​

LEGO® 2K Drive for Xbox One​

LEGO® 2K Drive for Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

McPixel 3​

2025-01-16 09:59:59

Exoprimal​

Figment: Journey Into the Mind​

Insurgency: Sandstorm (Windows) (PC)​

Maquette​

Medieval Dynasty (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Medieval Dynasty (Xbox One)​

Palworld (Game Preview)​

Those Who Remain​

Those Who Remain. (PC)​

2025-02-01 09:59:59

Anuchard​

Broforce​

Brotato​

Crusader Kings III​

Crusader Kings III (PC)​

Darkest Dungeon PC (PC)​

Darkest Dungeon®​

Escape Academy​

Go Mecha Ball​

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Persona 3 Reload​

Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem​

Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem (PC)​

2025-02-16 09:59:59

A Little to the Left​

Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night​

Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (PC)​

Return to Grace​

Tales of Arise​

Tales of Arise (Windows) (PC)​

Tales of Arise (Xbox One) (Not available for purchase)​

Tales of Arise (Xbox Series X|S) (Not available for purchase)​

2025-03-01 09:59:59

Bluey: The Videogame​

Dead Island 2​

GRIS​

Gris (PC)​

Indivisible​

Indivisible (PC)​

Maneater​

Merge & Blade​

PAW Patrol World​

Space Engineers​

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun​

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun - Windows (PC)​

Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty (Not available for purchase)​

2025-03-16 09:59:59

Evil West​

Evil West (Windows) (PC)​

Lies of P​

No More Heroes 3 Windows (PC)​

No More Heroes 3 Xbox​

No More Heroes 3 Xbox​

Solar Ash​

SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom - Rehydrated​

SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom - Rehydrated (PC)​

TUNIC (moved from 2024-04-01)​

2025-04-01 09:59:59

HOT WHEELS UNLEASHED™ 2 - Turbocharged​

Lil Gator Game​

Monster Hunter Rise (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Terra Invicta (Game Preview) (PC)​

The Lamplighters League - PC Edition (PC)​

The Yakuza Remastered Collection (moved from 2024-04-01)​

The Yakuza Remastered Collection for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 0 (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 0 for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 3 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 3 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 4 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 4 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 5 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 5 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 6: The Song of Life (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 6: The Song of Life for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami 2 (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami 2 for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza: Like a Dragon (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Zombie Army 4: Dead War​

2025-04-16 09:59:59

A Plague Tale: Requiem​

A Plague Tale: Requiem - Windows (PC)​

Coral Island​

Homestead Arcana​

Kona​

Orcs Must Die! 3​

Rise of the Tomb Raider (Not available for purchase)​

Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Not available for purchase)​

Shadow of the Tomb Raider Definitive Edition​

2025-05-01 09:59:59

Have a Nice Death​

Kona II: Brume​

Sniper Elite 5​

The Last Case of Benedict Fox: Definitive Edition​

Thirsty Suitors​

Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition​

2025-05-16 09:59:59

Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons​

Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons (PC)​

Chants of Sennaar​

Chants of Sennaar (Windows) (PC)​

Farming Simulator 22​

Farming Simulator 22 PC (PC)​

Jurassic World Evolution 2​

Planet of Lana​

2025-06-01 09:59:59

Against the Storm (PC)​

Cassette Beasts​

Goat Simulator 3​

Goat Simulator 3: Windows Edition (PC)​

Hypnospace Outlaw​

Moving Out 2​

PAYDAY 2: CRIMEWAVE EDITION - Game Pass Core​

Remnant II® - Standard Edition​

Slayers X: Terminal Aftermath: Vengance of the Slayer​

The Big Con​

2025-06-16 09:59:59

Far Cry® 6​

Shadowrun Returns​

Shadowrun Trilogy​

Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut​

Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege (Not available for purchase)​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege Deluxe Edition​

2025-07-15 09:59:59

Turnip Boy Robs a Bank​

2025-07-16 09:59:59

Assassin's Creed® Valhalla​

2025-08-01 09:59:59

Cooking Simulator (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Cooking Simulator Windows (PC) (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Starbound (PC) (moved from 2024-05-01)​

2025-08-16 09:59:59

PlateUp!​

2025-09-01 09:59:59

Sea of Stars​

2025-09-16 09:59:59

RESIDENT EVIL 2​

2025-10-16 09:59:59

Cities: Skylines II - PC Edition (PC)​

RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Windows (PC)​

2025-11-01 09:59:59

Jusant​

Return to Monkey Island​

Wartales​

2025-11-16 09:59:59

Spirittea​

2025-12-01 09:59:59

SteamWorld Build​

2025-12-16 09:59:59

Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition​

2026-04-01 09:59:59

Cities: Skylines - Remastered​

Cities: Skylines - Windows 10 Edition (PC)​

Cities: Skylines - Xbox One Edition​

2026-05-01 09:59:59

Citizen Sleeper​

DayZ (moved from 2024-05-01)​

Descenders - Game Pass Core​

2026-05-16 09:59:59

Shadowrun Returns PC (PC)​

Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut PC (PC)​

Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition PC (PC)​

2026-06-01 09:59:59

Dead by Daylight​

Dead by Daylight Windows (PC)​

theHunter: Call of the Wild™​

theHunter: Call of the Wild™ - Windows 10 (PC)​

2026-06-16 09:59:59

Among Us - Game Pass Core​

2026-07-01 09:59:59

Slay The Spire - Game Pass Core​

Slay The Spire (PC)​

Unpacking - Game Pass Core​

2026-07-16 09:59:59

Golf With Your Friends - Game Pass Core​

Golf With Your Friends (Windows Version) (PC)​

PowerWash Simulator - Game Pass Core (moved from 2024-07-16)​

Techtonica (Game Preview)​

2026-08-01 09:59:59

Celeste - Game Pass Core​

INSIDE - Game Pass Core​

2026-08-16 09:59:59

Firewatch - Game Pass Core​

LIMBO - Game Pass Core​

LIMBO (PC)​

2026-09-16 09:59:59

Dead Cells - Game Pass Core​

Dead Cells (PC)​

Spiritfarer®: Farewell Edition - Game Pass Core​

Superliminal - Game Pass Core​

2026-10-01 09:59:59

Chivalry 2 - Game Pass Core​

2026-11-16 09:59:59

Wreckfest - Game Pass Core​

Wreckfest (PC)​

2026-12-01 09:59:59

Stardew Valley - Game Pass Core​

Stardew Valley (PC)​

Totally Reliable Delivery Service - Game Pass Core​

Vampire Survivors - Game Pass Core​

2027-02-01 09:59:59

Trailmakers​

2027-03-16 09:59:59

Control​

Control Standard Edition - Control Expansion Pack 1 The Foundation (PC)​

Control Standard Edition - Control Expansion Pack 2 AWE (PC)​

Control Standard Edition (PC)​

Control Ultimate Edition​

Control Ultimate Edition - Xbox Series X|S​

Control Ultimate Edition (PC)​

2027-04-01 09:59:59

SUPERHOT: MIND CONTROL DELETE - Game Pass Core​

2027-05-01 09:59:59

SnowRunner (moved from 2024-05-01)​

SnowRunner (Windows 10) (PC) (moved from 2024-05-01)​

2027-06-01 09:59:59

Terraria​

2027-06-16 09:59:59

Totally Accurate Battle Simulator​

2027-12-16 09:59:59

Overcooked! 2 - Game Pass Core​

Overcooked! 2 (PC)​

2028-07-01 09:59:59

Human Fall Flat - Game Pass Core​

Far future dates, mostly first party and EA Play

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2048-12-30 23:59:59

Dead Space - EA Play - 2023-10-26​

EA SPORTS™ PGA TOUR™ - EA Play -​

F1® 23 - EA Play -​

GRID Legends - EA Play - 2022-09-01​

Madden NFL 24 - EA Play -​

STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor™ - EA Play -​

Super Mega Baseball™ 4 - EA Play -​

WILD HEARTS™ Standard Edition - EA Play -​

2049-12-30 23:59:59

Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition​

Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition (4K HDR bundle) (PC)​

Madden NFL 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​

Madden NFL 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​

NHL® 24 Xbox One - EA Play -​

NHL® 24 Xbox Series X|S - EA Play -​

2098-12-31 23:59:59

Battlefield™ 1 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

NBA LIVE 19 - EA Play - 2019-05-10​

Plants vs. Zombies™ Garden Warfare 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

2099-02-01 19:59:59

Halo Wars 2: Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​

2099-04-04 09:59:59

Halo Wars 2 (Not available for purchase)​

2099-04-18 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 2​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 3​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 4​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 5​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Season Pass (Episodes 2-5)​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - The Complete Season (Episodes 1-5)​

2099-10-02 23:59:59

Forza Horizon 4 - Forza Horizon 4 Formula Drift Car Pack​

2099-12-29 23:59:59

State of Decay 2: Juggernaut Edition - Game Pass Core​

2100-06-12 23:59:59

Max: The Curse of Brotherhood​

2220-10-06 03:59:59

Need for Speed™ Hot Pursuit Remastered - EA Play - 2021-06-25​

2220-10-13 23:59:59

Mass Effect™ Legendary Edition - EA Play -​

2220-10-22 23:59:59

Battlefield™ V (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-06-20​

2220-12-11 23:59:59

It Takes Two - Digital Version - EA Play - 2021-11-03​

2779-12-30 23:59:59

DIRT 5 - EA Play - 2021-08-10​

DiRT Rally 2.0 - EA Play - 2021-08-10​

2798-12-30 21:59:59

Wasteland Remastered​

2798-12-31 23:59:59

Fuzion Frenzy®​

The Elder Scrolls® Online - Game Pass Core​

Zoo Tycoon: Ultimate Animal Collection​

2799-01-14 23:59:59

Age of Empires III: Definitive Edition (PC)​

2799-02-01 09:59:59

Halo Wars 2 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

2799-02-08 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: The Complete First Season​

2799-02-08 23:59:59

Forza Horizon 5 Standard Edition​

2799-02-17 23:59:59

Wolfenstein: Youngblood​

Wolfenstein: Youngblood (PC) (PC)​

2799-02-28 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: Season Two​

2799-03-02 23:59:59

Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary (PC)​

2799-03-07 23:59:59

Halo Infinite (Campaign)​

2799-03-11 23:59:59

Dishonored® Definitive Edition​

Dishonored® Definitive Edition (PC) (PC)​

DOOM (1993)​

DOOM 3​

DOOM 64​

DOOM II (Classic)​

Fallout 4 - Game Pass Core​

Fallout 4 (PC) (PC)​

Oblivion​

Prey (Cloud Gaming enabled)​

Prey (PC)​

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind​

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Game of the Year Edition (PC) (PC)​

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (PC) (PC)​

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition (PC) (PC)​

The Evil Within​

The Evil Within (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein: The New Order​

Wolfenstein: The New Order (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein: The Old Blood​

Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (PC) (PC)​

2799-03-16 23:59:59

DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE - PC) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Fallout 76 - Game Pass Core​

Fallout 76 - PC (PC)​

2799-03-17 23:59:59

DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE) (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​

2799-03-20 23:59:59

Sea of Thieves: 2024 Edition​

2799-03-24 07:59:59

Bleeding Edge​

2799-03-26 23:59:59

Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition​

2799-03-28 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep​

The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep - The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 2, Give No Shelter​

The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep - The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 3, What We Deserve​

The Walking Dead: Michonne - The Complete Season​

2799-03-28 23:59:59

Lost in Random™ - EA Play - 2022-04-13​

2799-04-10 23:59:59

Ori and the Will of the Wisps - Game Pass Core​

2799-04-29 23:59:59

Joy Ride Turbo​

2799-05-12 23:59:59

Psychonauts​

Psychonauts (Windows 10) (PC)​

2799-05-17 23:59:59

MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries​

2799-05-18 23:59:59

Wasteland 2: Director's Cut​

2799-05-31 23:59:59

Banjo Kazooie: N n B​

Banjo-Kazooie​

Banjo-Tooie​

Disneyland Adventures​

Fable III​

Gears of War​

Gears of War 2​

Gears of War: Judgment​

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition (Not available for purchase)​

Halo 5: Guardians - Game Pass Core​

Halo: Spartan Assault​

Jetpac Refuelled​

Kameo​

Perfect Dark Zero​

Rush: A DisneyPixar Adventure​

Sunset Overdrive​

Viva Piñata​

Viva Piñata: TIP​

2799-06-09 05:59:59

Crackdown 3​

Crackdown 3: Campaign (Not available for purchase)​

Crackdown 3: Wrecking Zone (Not available for purchase)​

Forza Horizon 4 Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​

Gears of War 4​

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition for Windows 10 (PC)​

Halo: Spartan Assault (Mobile / PC)​

Halo: Spartan Strike​

Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice (PC)​

Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition (PC)​

ReCore​

2799-06-09 06:58:59

Halo Wars 2: Standard Edition (PC) - Game Pass Core​

Sunset Overdrive (PC)​

2799-06-09 23:59:59

Gears 5​

The Outer Worlds​

The Outer Worlds (PC)​

2799-06-13 18:59:59

Arx Fatalis (PC)​

BATTLETECH (PC)​

Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™​

Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™ (PC) (PC)​

DOOM​

Fallout (PC)​

Fallout 2 (PC)​

Fallout 3​

Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (PC)​

Fallout Tactics (PC)​

Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition (PC)​

Psychonauts 2 - Game Pass Core​

RAGE​

The Evil Within® 2​

The Evil Within® 2 (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein II: Standard Edition (PC)​

Wolfenstein® II: The New Colossus™​

2799-06-14 23:59:59

ScreamRide​

2799-06-17 23:59:59

The Bard's Tale ARPG : Remastered and Resnarkled​

2799-06-21 23:59:59

The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited (Not available for purchase)​

2799-06-26 23:59:59

Torment: Tides of Numenera (PC)​

2799-06-30 23:59:59

Banjo Kazooie: N n B (Not available for purchase)​

Banjo-Kazooie (Not available for purchase)​

Banjo-Tooie (Not available for purchase)​

Fable II​

GoldenEye 007 (Not available for purchase)​

Jetpac Refuelled (Not available for purchase)​

Perfect Dark​

Perfect Dark (Not available for purchase)​

Perfect Dark Zero (Not available for purchase)​

Rare Replay​

Ryse: Legendary Edition​

Ryse: Son of Rome (Not available for purchase)​

State of Decay: Year-One (Not available for purchase)​

2799-07-13 23:59:59

Halo 3 (PC)​

2799-07-18 23:59:59

BLiNX: The Time Sweeper​

Crimson Skies®: High Road to Revenge™​

2799-07-21 23:59:59

Grounded - Game Pass Core​

2799-08-13 14:59:59

The Bard's Tale Trilogy​

2799-08-16 23:59:59

Microsoft Solitaire Collection​

2799-08-17 23:59:59

New Super Lucky's Tale​

2799-08-19 14:59:59

Age of Empires Definitive Edition (PC)​

2799-08-19 19:59:59

Quake​

Quake III Arena (PC)​

2799-08-19 23:59:59

Battletoads​

2799-08-24 23:59:59

Halo Infinite​

2799-08-27 14:59:59

The Bard's Tale IV: Director's Cut​

2799-08-31 23:59:59

Fable Anniversary - Game Pass Core​

Gears of War 3​

Mass Effect​

2799-09-19 23:59:59

Tell Me Why​

Tell Me Why - Tell Me Why: Chapter 2 (Not available for purchase)​

Tell Me Why - Tell Me Why: Chapter 3 (Not available for purchase)​

Tell Me Why: Chapters 1-3​

Wasteland 3​

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2799-09-22 02:59:59

Halo 3: ODST (PC)​

2799-09-30 23:59:59

Dishonored 2 - Game Pass Core​

Dishonored 2 (PC)​

DOOM Eternal Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​

Phoenix Point​

2799-10-07 23:59:59

Brütal Legend​

2799-10-14 23:59:59

Fallout: New Vegas (BC)​

2799-10-27 23:59:59

Day of the Tentacle Remastered​

Full Throttle Remastered​

Grim Fandango Remastered​

2799-10-28 14:59:59

Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition (PC)​

2799-11-03 23:59:59

Minecraft Launcher (PC)​

2799-11-08 23:59:59

Battlefield™ 2042 Xbox One - EA Play -​

2799-11-09 15:59:59

Gears Tactics​

2799-11-14 23:59:59

Halo 4 (PC)​

Halo: Reach (PC)​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo 3: ODST​

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RAGE 2​

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2799-11-16 23:59:59

ARK: Survival Evolved Explorer's Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

ARK: Survival Evolved Explorer's Edition (Not available for purchase)​

2799-11-23 00:59:59

Forza Horizon 5 (Not available for purchase)​

Forza Motorsport (Not available for purchase)​

2799-11-23 23:59:59

Gears 5 Game of the Year Edition - Game Pass Core​

2799-12-03 15:59:59

DOOM Eternal Standard Edition (PC) (PC)​

2799-12-07 23:59:59

Need for Speed™ Unbound - EA Play - 2023-06-22​

2799-12-11 23:59:59

Halo Wars: Definitive Edition (PC) (PC)​

2799-12-13 23:59:59

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition​

2799-12-17 23:59:59

Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice - Game Pass Core​

2799-12-30 23:59:59

Battlefield 4 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Battlefield™ 2042 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2022-11-22​

Burnout™ Paradise Remastered - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

Fe - EA Play - 2018-09-03​

Immortals of Aveum™ - EA Play -​

Mirror's Edge™ Catalyst - EA Play - 2019-05-14​

Need for Speed Rivals - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Need for Speed™ - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Need for Speed™ Heat - EA Play - 2020-07-14​

Need for Speed™ Payback - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

NHL® 94 REWIND - EA Play - 2021-03-01​

Peggle 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-14​

Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Plants vs. Zombies: Battle for Neighborville™ - EA Play - 2020-03-04​

STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order™ - EA Play - 2020-11-10​

STAR WARS™ Battlefront™ II - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

STAR WARS™: Squadrons - EA Play -​

Super Mega Baseball 3 - EA Play - 2022-03-03​

The Sims™ 4 - EA Play -​

The Sims™ 4 EA Play Edition (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-05-22​

Titanfall® 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

UFC® 4 - EA Play -​

Unravel - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Unravel Two - EA Play - 2019-01-19​

2799-12-31 22:59:59

skate. (2007) - EA Play - 2021-08-05​

9998-12-30 00:00:00

A Way Out - EA Play - 2019-11-02​

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition​

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (PC)​

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (Not available for purchase)​

Alice: Madness Returns - EA Play - 2019-10-25​

An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire (PC)​

Anthem™ - EA Play - 2019-10-09​

ARK: Survival Ascended​

ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition​

ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition (PC)​

Army of Two™ - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

As Dusk Falls​

Battlefield 3™ - EA Play - 2011-10-08​

Battlefield™ 1 Revolution - EA Play -​

Battlefield™ Hardline (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2018-07-08​

Bejeweled 2 - EA Play - 2008-03-08​

Bejeweled 3 - EA Play - 2011-10-14​

BLACK™ - EA Play -​

Broken Age​

Broken Age (PC)​

Contrast​

Costume Quest​

Costume Quest 2​

Crysis - EA Play - 2020-07-09​

Crysis 2 - EA Play - 2020-07-09​

Dante's Inferno™ - EA Play - 2018-08-02​

Dead Space (2008) - EA Play - 2008-10-08​

Dead Space™ 2 - EA Play -​

Dead Space™ 3 - EA Play -​

Dead Space™ Ignition - EA Play - 2010-10-13​

DEATHLOOP​

Diablo® IV (Not available for purchase)​

Dragon Age: Origins - EA Play -​

Dragon Age™ 2 - EA Play -​

Dragon Age™: Inquisition (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2014-10-28​

Feeding Frenzy - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Feeding Frenzy 2 - EA Play - 2008-09-17​

FIGHT NIGHT CHAMPION - EA Play -​

Forza Horizon 4 (Not available for purchase)​

Forza Motorsport Standard Edition​

Gang Beasts - Game Pass Core​

Ghostwire: Tokyo​

Halo 2: Anniversary (PC)​

Halo Wars: Definitive Edition​

Heavy Weapon - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Hi-Fi RUSH​

Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition​

Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition (PC)​

Mass Effect 2 - EA Play -​

Mass Effect™ 3 - EA Play -​

Mass Effect™: Andromeda (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2017-03-15​

MASSIVE CHALICE​

Medal of Honor Airborne - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Microsoft Flight Simulator (Not available for purchase)​

Microsoft Flight Simulator Standard 40th Anniversary Edition​

Minecraft​

Minecraft Dungeons​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Legends​

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Minecraft Legends for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft: Java & Bedrock Edition for PC (PC)​

Minecraft: Java Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Mirror's Edge™ - EA Play - 2008-11-05​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

Ni no Kuni Wrath of the White Witch™ Remastered​

Peggle - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

Pentiment​

Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition (PC) (PC)​

Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition​

Pillars of Eternity: Complete Edition​

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Plants vs. Zombies - EA Play - 2010-09-24​

Quake 4 (PC)​

Quake II​

Quantum Break​

Quantum Break (PC)​

Redfall​

RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Xbox (Not available for purchase)​

Return to Castle Wolfenstein (PC)​

Rise of Nations: Extended Edition (PC)​

Sea of Solitude - EA Play - 2020-01-21​

Skate 3 - EA Play -​

SSX - EA Play - 2012-02-21​

Stacking​

STAR WARS™ Battlefront™ (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

Starfield​

The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard (PC)​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier (Episode 1) (PC)​

Torment: Tides of Numenera​

We Happy Few​

We Happy Few (PC)​

Wolfenstein 3D (PC)​

Zuma - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Zuma's Revenge! - EA Play - 2012-07-07​

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Crysis® 3 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-07-09​

Diablo® IV PC (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

EA SPORTS™ FIFA 23 Standard Edition Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-05-16​

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EA SPORTS™ UFC® 3 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-08-19​

F1® 22 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-06-30​

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Far Cry® 5 (Game Pass only SKU) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Far Cry® 6 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

FIFA 22 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2021-11-21​

FIFA 22 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2021-11-21​

FOR HONOR : MARCHING FIRE EDITION (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

FOR HONOR : MARCHING FIRE EDITION (Not available for purchase)​

Immortals Fenyx Rising™ (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Iron Brigade - Rise of the Martian Bear (Not available for purchase)​

Iron Brigade (Not available for purchase)​

League of Legends (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Legends of Runeterra (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Madden NFL 23 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-02-09​

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Minecraft Preview (Not available for purchase)​

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MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase)​

NHL® 21 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2021-04-12​

NHL® 23 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-04-13​

NHL® 23 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-04-13​

Starfield - Starfield: Old Mars Skin Pack (Not available for purchase)​

Super Lucky's Tale (Not available for purchase)​

Teamfight Tactics (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

The Cave (Not available for purchase)​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege (Game Pass only SKU) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon® Wildlands - Standard Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

VALORANT (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Watch Dogs®2 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

 

[elitewillie]

Size comparison:

Holy hell. Wife is gonna kill me when she sees that thing.

Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

 

[bardockkun]

Size comparison:

Give some props to the artist who did a bunch of mock ups.
https://mobile.twitter.com/keisawada/status/1307579287868858370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1307579287868858370%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurogamer.net%2Farticles%2F2020-09-20-these-drawn-to-scale-diagrams-show-just-how-the-ps5-and-xbox-series-x-will-fit-into-your-hom
In short, can't wait for that slimmer line in a few years!

 

[Donken]

PS5 making the Xbox Series X look like a GameCube in comparison. I remember thinking the Series X looked big on initial reveal but then Sony unzipped and flopped that thing out. Your guests will know if you have a PS5.

 

[dragonjud]

Used to be that if the wifey didn't care too much/wasn't paying attention, you could sometimes disguise that new console (e.g. xbox one s, or the one x as long as the color was the same).  You cannot disguise these new monstrosities.  

 

[kcobra22]

Give some props to the artist who did a bunch of mock ups.
In short, can't wait for that slimmer line in a few years!

yeah didn't link the tweet this time because I know we're all lazy and probably wouldn't click through to see the pictures.

 

[kwick7]

Really depends on your entertainment center. The PS5 will fit in the top of mine (not on, in. On the top shelf). The X will not.

Also really entertained by all the complaints about the S and what it can and cannot do. Some people really don’t understand that the average parent might buy their child a $300 new system. Would not buy a $350 one. Definitely wouldn’t buy a $500 one. That $299 is a really serious price point.

 

[etcrane]

PS5 making the Xbox Series X look like a GameCube in comparison. I remember thinking the Series X looked big on initial reveal but then Sony unzipped and flopped that thing out. Your guests will know if you have a PS5.

I’m waiting for the belt accessory so I can just wear it out of the house ... 2020 needed a modern COD piece (see what I did there ... )

 

[deszaras]

Really depends on your entertainment center. The PS5 will fit in the top of mine (not on, in. On the top shelf). The X will not.
Also really entertained by all the complaint about the S and what it can and cannot do. Some people really don’t understand that the average parent might buy their child a $300 new system. Would not buy a $350 one. Definitely wouldn’t buy a $500 one. That $299 is a really serious price point.

I don’t have room on my entertainment center for the X Series. I do have a subwoofer that isn’t hooked up next to it that I’ve kept my external hard drives on. That’s where I plan on putting it. I need a new entertainment center but I’m waiting until I get a new tv.

 

[josekortez]

Is Sea of Thieves worth downloading?  I know that it's on the weekly Game Pass Rewards, but it's 40 GB, and I'd hate to download a game that sucked since it's going to take a while and count towards my monthly data cap.  Thanks in advance for any constructive responses.

 

[etcrane]

Is Sea of Thieves worth downloading? I know that it's on the weekly Game Pass Rewards, but it's 40 GB, and I'd hate to download a game that sucked since it's going to take a while and count towards my monthly data cap. Thanks in advance for any constructive responses.

They’ve added a lot since launch. Personally I still find it incredibly mediocre and empty. I’ve heard it’s better if you have friends to play with, as the ship mechanics really require a crew. I downloaded it a few months ago and it still felt really unpolished to me compared to better games. I’d skip it but I’m sure you’ll hear from some of its fans on here.

 

[escapism]

If you aren't sure you want to play it and have access to the GP app, you can just launch it through xCloud.

 

[Bryson]

I think you're misunderstanding my point.
I'm not asking for the Series S to be the Series X. I'm asking for it to only support last-gen Xbone/360/OG Xbox games at least as well as the Xbone X. I don't think that's unreasonable.
I fully expected there to be a power gap between the Series S and the Series X but what I didn't expect was for the Xbone X to outperform the Series S (in some aspects). I'm not sure exactly what the weak link in the Series S is but I think it was dumb to not support BC games at 4k (at least to the extent the Xbone X did).
Whether you believe it or not, there are people besides me that soured on the Series S for exactly this reason.

Let's try this again. Do you care about the future of Xbox? If you answered yes then you know that MS had to make a very competitively priced console. There's no way that MS would be able to make a dent in the marketshare with PS4's 100+ million installed user base. I fully believe that they put in as much power as they could into the box to get it under $300. There's no way you could build a PC this powerful even with three times the budget!

Do you own a 4K TV? Then you should be getting the X. The Series S is better than the One X in every way. Due to the lower amount of ram it cannot run those high quality 4K textures however it's possible that through DLSS and machine learning that it can render images at checkerboard 4K which could look the same or better than the image quality of the OneX. Games with dynamic resolution will hit the high end of the resolution at a much higher framerate right out of the box without even needing a patch. The problem is with the older games early in the generation that were hardcoded to run at 900p. These games will need to be patched by either the devs or MS back compat team. Given how committed MS has been with their back compat initiative, this is not a big deal. You know they're committed to it. If it bothers you that much then just get the Series X for the extra power and piece of mind. An extra $200 spread out over the life of a console is not that much and worth it if that's what's going to make you happy. Don't settle for less than you deserve. I went all in this gen with PS4 Pro and One X. No regrets... except for my PS4 Pro which sounds like a possessed hairdryer.

 

[MulderYuffie]

So I got a question. If I have Gold until October 14th, 2022 and I get a 12 month code would it activate now or would i have to wait until that date this year? I would not do the autorenewal free month was just curious if I could do it now or have to wait? I want to get game pass ultimate for $1.

 

[josekortez]

They’ve added a lot since launch. Personally I still find it incredibly mediocre and empty. I’ve heard it’s better if you have friends to play with, as the ship mechanics really require a crew. I downloaded it a few months ago and it still felt really unpolished to me compared to better games. I’d skip it but I’m sure you’ll hear from some of its fans on here.

If you aren't sure you want to play it and have access to the GP app, you can just launch it through xCloud.

I did a bit of research. It seems like a multiplayer affair and a bit of a slow burn. I'd like to get all of my weekly challenges in for the month, but there is another week ahead to do another weekly challenge for September, so I think that I might skip it. I've got plenty of games downloaded already.

 

[etcrane]

Here’s the thing about the Series S ... we can all argue and speculate about it being able to match the 1X because of the newer technology, architecture etc. Ok ... so in the immediate moment it’s a decent upgrade that will be able to play any Series exclusives.

But what happens when 8K games start getting released for the Series X ... what happens when the gap between game quality starts looking like the X1 and XS currently? Because that’s where things are headed. From an economic standpoint the Series S seems like a great deal ... but for people who want longevity and guaranteed performance (not just higher resolution, but playing next gen games as intended) then the Series X seems like a no brainer.

I understand why the Series S exists, but I don’t understand why there are so many ardent defenders of it within the Xbox fan base.

 

[bardockkun]

So I got a question. If I have Gold until October 14th, 2022 and I get a 12 month code would it activate now or would i have to wait until that date this year? I would not do the autorenewal free month was just curious if I could do it now or have to wait? I want to get game pass ultimate for $1.

You have to wait until the 14th of October to get the three years max, if you try it now it'll give you a can't process message. If you want the extra month that comes with turning on auto renew, wait until November 13.

 

[Bryson]

Here’s the thing about the Series S ... we can all argue and speculate about it being able to match the 1X because of the newer technology, architecture etc. Ok ... so in the immediate moment it’s a decent upgrade that will be able to play any Series exclusives.

But what happens when 8K games start getting released for the Series X ... what happens when the gap between game quality starts looking like the X1 and XS currently? Because that’s where things are headed. From an economic standpoint the Series S seems like a great deal ... but for people who want longevity and guaranteed performance (not just higher resolution, but playing next gen games as intended) then the Series X seems like a no brainer.

I understand why the Series S exists, but I don’t understand why there are so many ardent defenders of it within the Xbox fan base.

Why wouldn't people defend the Series S? It's just a product, not a life long marriage. Don't like it, don't buy it. Current gen consoles ARE PCs. If all you have is a 1080p monitor and want to play 60 fps then buy a $300 graphics card but then don't go complaining when that $300 nvidia card can't run games at 8K 144Hz because it was never intended to. That's why $2000-$10000 graphics cards exist.

 

[BobbyTastic]

-snip-

I agree that patches down the line are possible but it would have to be per game and therefore, would probably not hit most of the Xbone library unless the BC team put in major work. But it's a shame that all that work could have been avoided.
Fwiw, Xbone X patches aren't just 4K, but can include stuff like a boosted framerate, antialiasing, better draw distance, better textures, better effects, etc.
Unfortunately, they can't just carve the 4K res out of the X patches and leave everything else.

I agree that the Series S will hit bottlenecks at some point but it's a budget entry point like any budget PC. It won't hold anything back, but you get what you pay for and people are right when they say the Series X is worth the $200. I was hoping the Series S would be a solid sidegrade/minor upgrade for my Xbone X to grab for cheap at the beginning of the gen and ultimately, a good secondary box after I got a Series X but I guess I'll just skip it for the Series X at a later date.

 

[Zantra]

I just want a better 4K Blu Ray player. I'm not a big fan of the one in the Xbox One X. My favorite DVD or Blu Ray player in a video game console was probably the one that they did in the Xbox 360, that had way more features and settings. You could actually turn 4:3 dvd images into widescreen, and it would upscale them. And, the results were pretty good. The Xbox One X appears to do no upscaling to normal DVDs, and they just appear as a blurry mess on a 1080p TV, and way worse on a 4K one. I'm hoping that the PS5 or the Xbox Series X will properly upscale DVDs, like they do for Blu Rays. I know it's a weird request that I shouldn't care about since it's a video game console. But, I hope that the software is better this time around. I also hope that the PS5 supporting PSVR, means that it will still support 3D Blu Rays. Since you can actually watch 3D Blu Rays using the PSVR headset. Since Sony is still holding a torch for them.

 

[etcrane]

Let me clarify ... I’m surprised people on CAG are defending it, given that while it’s lower in price, it doesn’t seem to be the better long term deal. Regardless of the 4K issue, the lack of ram will eventually be an issue. 10GB vs 16Gb ... either Series S game quality will suffer or Series X potential will always be somewhat limited by the need to produce relative parity between the consoles because they’re both in the Series line.

Honestly, the Series V might be worth the wait as a potentially all digital but more powerful version of S.

 

[p0rn0saur]

Why you buying anything but the Series S on a tv that size  (for the Dire Straits "Money for Nothing" video mock ups)

 

[Zantra]

Let me clarify ... I’m surprised people on CAG are defending it, given that while it’s lower in price, it doesn’t seem to be the better long term deal. Regardless of the 4K issue, the lack of ram will eventually be an issue. 10GB vs 16Gb ... either Series S game quality will suffer or Series X potential will always be somewhat limited by the need to produce relative parity between the consoles because they’re both in the Series line.
Honestly, the Series V might be worth the wait as a potentially all digital but more powerful version of S.

It's just the Xbox One generation all over again. The One S and One X were hindered by having to make games that would run on the VCR Xbox One for their whole life cycle. Even now, any games made for the One S and One X still need to be made to work on the original. It's going to be that way even when we get a Series S+ and a Series X+. They'll still have to make games that work for the original Series S. The smartest thing that Sony has done this generation so far, is only giving people one console option when it comes to power, and just giving them the choice of disc drive, or no disc drive. It's probably what Microsoft should have done. Because, despite the Series X being the "most powerful" console on Earth, Sony will have the edge, because they don't need to dumb down their PS5 games for a weaker hardware version.

 

[p0rn0saur]

Let me clarify ... I’m surprised people on CAG are defending it, given that while it’s lower in price, it doesn’t seem to be the better long term deal. Regardless of the 4K issue, the lack of ram will eventually be an issue. 10GB vs 16Gb ... either Series S game quality will suffer or Series X potential will always be somewhat limited by the need to produce relative parity between the consoles because they’re both in the Series line.

Honestly, the Series V might be worth the wait as a potentially all digital but more powerful version of S.

Wait you're telling me there might be a difference in game quality between a Series S and a Series X? That extra $200 actually means something? I wonder how the hell PC has adapted to this for over 30 years...

 

[chrisbravo]

I did a bit of research. It seems like a multiplayer affair and a bit of a slow burn. I'd like to get all of my weekly challenges in for the month, but there is another week ahead to do another weekly challenge for September, so I think that I might skip it. I've got plenty of games downloaded already.

For the Sea of Thieves weekly gamepass challenge you just need to launch the game, dont even need to start the game, just start the X-cloud gamepass app on your phone, start the game and it should pop right away.

 

[BobbyTastic]

I agree about the RAM. I said it was a mistake the first time I heard about it especially if it's why the Series S won't get those Xbone X patches. Tbf, it could be other things too but the RAM is the most obvious corner cutting (how much more would an extra 2 GBs of RAM at better speed have been anyway?)

Honestly, the Series V might be worth the wait as a potentially all digital but more powerful version of S.

To be accompanied by the Series XX.

 

[p0rn0saur]

For the Sea of Thieves weekly gamepass challenge you just need to launch the game, dont even need to start the game, just start the X-cloud gamepass app on your phone, start the game and it should pop right away.

yeah really good Xcloud week, got Dungeon of the Endless in 2 minutes

 

[Monsta Mack]

Do you have anybody in your family who would be willing to log on to your Xbox One, go into the digital store, and pre-order the console for you?

Thank you. Managed to get the time off..I need to change the shipping address so got the website link up for now.

 

[elitewillie]

Let me clarify ... I’m surprised people on CAG are defending it, given that while it’s lower in price, it doesn’t seem to be the better long term deal. Regardless of the 4K issue, the lack of ram will eventually be an issue. 10GB vs 16Gb ... either Series S game quality will suffer or Series X potential will always be somewhat limited by the need to produce relative parity between the consoles because they’re both in the Series line.

Honestly, the Series V might be worth the wait as a potentially all digital but more powerful version of S.

I'm defending it cause I don't live in a CAG bubble. I have friends and family outside of here so I'm aware there is a market for people that don't live and die gaming like people on here. For those people the S is perfect. For uber gamers like us there is the X.

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[awp]

Damn. This is like the battle over the next Supreme Court justice in here.

 

[etcrane]

See that’s the thing, I think Microsoft is capitalizing on the average customers lack of information and the knowledge they’ll buy whatever is cheapest, even if it’s not to their benefit.

Consoles aren’t PCs ... the whole point of a console is that you buy a game, it works, period. I can’t imagine Microsoft will ever allow a game to function exceptionally well on the Series X but lack significant features on the S. Thus, we get a scenario where the weakest link holds back what the Series X is capable of. Microsoft was able to avoid this issue to an extent with the X1S because it was cheap, it was late in the console life cycle, and it was the prototype for the Series S (specifically the digital only S that saw limited release). I don’t know if consumers will be as supportive if games look dramatically different on the X vs the S in a few years. It seems risky.

While Microsoft is going to score major points with Game Pass, their hardware choices seem riskier than Sony’s. I read the PS5 was specifically designed to have parity in features between the disc and digital model because they had a bad experience in the past releasing two tiers of systems.

Even if your friends and family aren’t die hard gamers, hopefully they don’t get a bad deal as this next generation of consoles hit their stride.

 

[Zantra]

Damn. This is like the battle over the next Supreme Court justice in here.

I think that Judge Sony PlayStation should be our next Supreme Court Justice. A Japanese woman would bring some much needed diversity to the court.

 

[etcrane]

Damn. This is like the battle over the next Supreme Court justice in here.

This is actually more important ... much more important. With the coming nuclear winter, we may not be able to choose more than these launch consoles

 

[deszaras]

Out of curiosity, who’s going to go to a store to preorder and how early are you going to get there before?

 

[elitewillie]

See that’s the thing, I think Microsoft is capitalizing on the average customers lack of information and the knowledge they’ll buy whatever is cheapest, even if it’s not to their benefit.

Consoles aren’t PCs ... the whole point of a console is that you buy a game, it works, period. I can’t imagine Microsoft will ever allow a game to function exceptionally well on the Series X but lack significant features on the S. Thus, we get a scenario where the weakest link holds back what the Series X is capable of. Microsoft was able to avoid this issue to an extent with the X1S because it was cheap, it was late in the console life cycle, and it was the prototype for the Series S (specifically the digital only S that saw limited release). I don’t know if consumers will be as supportive if games look dramatically different on the X vs the S in a few years. It seems risky.

While Microsoft is going to score major points with Game Pass, their hardware choices seem riskier than Sony’s. I read the PS5 was specifically designed to have parity in features between the disc and digital model because they had a bad experience in the past releasing two tiers of systems.

Even if your friends and family aren’t die hard gamers, hopefully they don’t get a bad deal as this next generation of consoles hit their stride.

First all businesses do that. Our whole system of economics is based on unequal access to information.

Second, how do you know anything is holding anything back. Like chill. PC gaming does just fine and there are various levels of graphics cards.

Lastly I don't mind getting a bit of a downgrade if it means that people with less money than I do get access to gaming at a lower price. The world doesn't revolve around us. Think about about countries outside of the US that have lower incomes than we do.

You'll be fine. By a Series X if it's that big of a deal.

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[p0rn0saur]

but you're wrong, consoles are PCs now, and how would it be not to someone's benefit if they got a Series S played some GamePass and Madden, fortnite and never even knew the difference for $300 instead of $500. In a few years guess what the Series X will be where the Series S is now and something else will take it's place. Btw What are you reading, where in this great god's green earth have you ever seen that Sony has released a system with "two tiers" before PS4 and PS4 pro. If anything the Ps4 pro was a success for them. 

 

[Bryson]

I agree that patches down the line are possible but it would have to be per game and therefore, would probably not hit most of the Xbone library unless the BC team put in major work. But it's a shame that all that work could have been avoided.
Fwiw, Xbone X patches aren't just 4K, but can include stuff like a boosted framerate, antialiasing, better draw distance, better textures, better effects, etc.
Unfortunately, they can't just carve the 4K res out of the X patches and leave everything else.

I agree that the Series S will hit bottlenecks at some point but it's a budget entry point like any budget PC. It won't hold anything back, but you get what you pay for and people are right when they say the Series X is worth the $200. I was hoping the Series S would be a solid sidegrade/minor upgrade for my Xbone X to grab for cheap at the beginning of the gen and ultimately, a good secondary box after I got a Series X but I guess I'll just skip it for the Series X at a later date.

Why are you mentioning framerate as an advantage for the One X when the Series S has been confirmed to run 120Hz, something never before seen on a console while majority of One X games are running 30fps. You will still be getting antialiasing, improved draw distance and all that good stuff on the S with the superior framerate and near instant load times. The only thing you won't have is native 4k but the S will upscale to 4K no problem. Isn't that worth it for everything else you're getting? Read the eurogamers article. All it takes is changing 3 lines of code on the back compat games. Tell that to the PS5 owners who's PS4 games are not getting any enhancements at all, majority of them will be running on PS5 same as it did on PS4 except with more stable framerate. No HDR, improved textures, LOD, anti-aliasing, nothing. And back compat with PS1-PS3 games only exist in Shangri-La because Sony doesn't give a shit about back compat with their previous generations.

I'm not a Day 1 console buyer, never have been, never will but I am really really really excited to see what next gen mid-gen console refreshes will look like. Maybe the Series X will come down to $300 and they'll have a souped up Series XX to take it's place. God knows Sony will have to come out with a slim version of their current monstrosity.

 

[p0rn0saur]

Out of curiosity, who’s going to go to a store to preorder and how early are you going to get there before?

I might drive by the local gamestop at 10am, have a look. I'm doubting any line here for that store. Only time they've had one is the NES mini.

 

[briandadude]

Do we know the power draw on the S vs X? Let’s not forget the difference in ongoing electricity costs in our analysis.

I’ve got a 1X and will be holding out until a bundle or at least special edition. I want to see what these smart delivery game sizes look like and the perceptible difference in quality between models.

 

[Zantra]

Out of curiosity, who’s going to go to a store to preorder and how early are you going to get there before?

I don't see why anybody would risk their life going into a store right now just to pre-order a console, when you can do it just as easily online, and not run the risk of catching Covid from some psycho who refuses to wear a mask.

 

[elitewillie]

Do we know the power draw on the S vs X? Let’s not forget the difference in ongoing electricity costs in our analysis. [emoji14]

I’ve got a 1X and will be holding out until a bundle or at least special edition. I want to see what these smart delivery game sizes look like and the perceptible difference in quality between models.

You waiting to see the actual difference between the models is the smartest thing. Seriously.

I'm a tech hoe so I would by a tech thing even if it was made of shit. Lol

For actual smart people. Waiting is the best thing.

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[etcrane]

but you're wrong, consoles are PCs now, and how would it be not to someone's benefit if they got a Series S played some GamePass and Madden, fortnite and never even knew the difference for $300 instead of $500. In a few years guess what the Series X will be where the Series S is now and something else will take it's place. Btw What are you reading, where in this great god's green earth have you ever seen that Sony has released a system with "two tiers" before PS4 and PS4 pro. If anything the Ps4 pro was a success for them.

When I can upgrade a GPU, swap out an internal SSD, install an alternative operating system or add components then consoles will be PCs. Yes, consoles are equivalent physically in many ways to PCs, but they are still closed systems that hold the expectation that you can just boot up and go. I get what you’re saying but there’s still a core difference.

And the Sony thing was an off hand comment in an article ... I don’t recall which, but it’s clear that they want to avoid the issue of having consoles performing at two distinct levels.

Edit - https://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-sony-didnt-take-the-series-s-approach-for-ps5/1100-6482355/

 

[elitewillie]

I don't see why anybody would risk their life going into a store right now just to pre-order a console, when you can do it just as easily online, and not run the risk of catching Covid from some psycho who refuses to wear a mask.

PS5 pre-orders in person at GameStop were 10 times easier than online. Unless you wanted a bundle. I agree with not going out for a console though. It's definitely a risk. I went out for the PS5 because I was wearing a mask and I know in my area everyone is wearing masks. It was a stupid risk to take and I can totally recognize that.

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[Zantra]

Normally I would wait. But, almost full backwards compatibility with the previous generation for both consoles makes it feel like a worthwhile upgrade right now. Even though the consoles are really just an Xbox One XX, and a PS4 Pro Pro, in terms of power. They'll still be getting the newest games, and unless you have a really pricey gaming PC, this is the game that you have to play every five or so years, if you want to keep gaming with your friends.

 

[JJSP]

I’ve got a 55” Samsung Frame (2018). Series X it shall be.

 

[even13flow]

Have they said in any of the documentation how much external drive space is allowed. Currently 16 TB and I’m almost full. Yes I have a big problem

And I’m certainly still going to get a Series X anyways just curious if I can upgrade my hard drives as well

 

[elitewillie]

Have they said in any of the documentation how much external drive space is allowed. Currently 16 TB and I’m almost full. Yes I have a big problem

And I’m certainly still going to get a Series X anyways just curious if I can upgrade my hard drives as well

I think your problem is going to be that the new games have to be stored on those fancy new ssds that they have now. All the storage stuff is super confusing though.

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[Wa1terSobchak]

Oh so this is what they meant by time is a flat circle!

This is why 1x1=2

 

[elitewillie]

When I can upgrade a GPU, swap out an internal SSD, install an alternative operating system or add components then consoles will be PCs. Yes, consoles are equivalent physically in many ways to PCs, but they are still closed systems that hold the expectation that you can just boot up and go. I get what you’re saying but there’s still a core difference.

And the Sony thing was an off hand comment in an article ... I don’t recall which, but it’s clear that they want to avoid the issue of having consoles performing at two distinct levels.

Edit - https://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-sony-didnt-take-the-series-s-approach-for-ps5/1100-6482355/

Let's take the word of the competitor to xbox as gospel as he's shitting on xbox lol. Come on man. Use some logic and critical thinking.

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[Bryson]

Do we know the power draw on the S vs X? Let’s not forget the difference in ongoing electricity costs in our analysis.

Yes we do. According to DF, thanks to 2 generations of die shrinks over the last 7 years means the Series X will draw about the same amount of power as the Xbox One despite being 10x more powerful.

https://youtu.be/Qsu0J-yw0CI?t=1020

 

[etcrane]

Let's take the word of the competitor to xbox as gospel as he's shitting on xbox lol. Come on man. Use some logic and critical thinking.

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Let’s believe everything Company X says about their soon to be released product ... I’m sure none of these fine companies are hyping up machines that could be weak links in their market strategy.