Xbox Deals and Discussion

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Welcome to the Xbox Deals and Discussion thread.

General info

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• You cannot currently buy any Xbox 360 content on xbox.com using your account balance, you can only use an active credit card or PayPal. To use your balance, you must make purchases on your console. Unfortunately, even "purchasing" free content through the web site like trials requires an alternative method of payment tied to your account, though adding an empty MasterCard / Visa gift card that is registered for online purchases will work. Xbox One games can be purchased on the web site with your account balance.
• Some sales are intended for Gold subscribers only, as noted within each section.
  On Xbox One, Gold trials of any length work for sales and Games with Gold. You must be an active Gold subscriber (paid or trial) to play Games with Gold purchases.
• On Xbox 360, you must have at least a 1 month Gold subscription for sales and Games with Gold. Neither 48 hour trials, 14 day trials nor free weekends qualify.

• All known sales and information on sales should make their way into the OP. Major Nelson usually updates his blog with new sales information every Tuesday.
• ALL OFFERS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE! No information within this thread can or should be construed as accurate (or still valid), therefore ...
• Always verify Xbox Live Marketplace prices before your purchase!
• Spend wisely, have fun, and enjoy!

Latest Sales Posts​

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May 27 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

May 22 - Warhammer​

May 21 - "Just for Everyone" deals - Party Games​

May 20 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

May 16 - Mid-week drops​

May 13 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

May 13 - Non-BC discounts​

May 6 - Weekly Sale​

Apr 29 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Apr 22 - Weekly Sale - Last chance​

Apr 18 - Game Pass Super Saver / Publisher Spotlight​

Apr 15 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance​

Apr 8 - Weekly Sale - Last chance (discounts ending morning of Apr 9)​

Apr 4 - Spring Sale - Part 2​

Apr 1 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

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Mar 28 - Spring Sale Sneak Preview​

Mar 25 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Mar 18 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Mar 11 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Mar 4 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Feb 26 - Weekly Sale​

Feb 19 - Weekly Sale​

Feb 14 - Anime Month, Pt 2​

Feb 12 - Weekly Sale​

Feb 5 - Weekly Sale​

Jan 31 - Anime Month​

Jan 29 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Jan 22 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Jan 16 - Exoprimal / Street Fighter 6​

Jan 15 - Weekly Sale​

Jan 8 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Jan 2 - Last Chance Sale​

Jan 1 - Weekly Sale - Follow up​

Dec 25 - Weekly Sale​

Dec 18 - Weekly Sale​

Countdown Sale - Post 1 - Post 2 - Post 3 - Follow up​

Latest Countdown Posts​

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May 27 - Pre-weekly countdown​

May 20 - Pre-weekly countdown​

May 13 - Pre-weekly countdown​

May 6 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 29 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 22 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 15 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 8 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Apr 4 - Spring Sale final preview​

Apr 1 - Pre-weekly countdown, with Spring Sale​

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Mar 28 - Spring Sale Sneak Preview​

Mar 25 - Pre-weekly countdown, with Spring Sale​

Mar 18 - Pre-weekly countdown, with Spring Sale​

Mar 12 - Initial Spring Sale list​

Mar 11 - Post-weekly countdown​

Mar 4 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 26 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 19 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 12 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Feb 5 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 29 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 22 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 15 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 8 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Jan 2 - Last chance countdown​

Jan 1 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Dec 25 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Dec 18 - Pre-weekly countdown​

Dec 14 - Look ahead at Dec 18 weekly​

Game Pass potential departure dates​

Last updated - 2024-05-28

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What is this?

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Game prices in the Xbox store have a UTC end date associated with them. These dates generally fall into 5 categories :

1. The item is currently on sale. These are usually the weekly sale items that end Tuesday mornings at 09:59:59 UTC.
2. The item will go on sale, usually within 2-3 weeks. These are usually set to switch at 23:59:59 UTC, like the weekly sale on Monday evenings. Some of the major annual sales (Spring, Summer, Black Friday, Holiday) start on Thursday evening UTC, and some times appear to be random.
3. The item is on Game Pass and is not currently or going to be on sale in the next few weeks. Third party games generally cluster around 09:59:59 UTC on the 1st and 16th of each month. Currently, at least one game is associated with every 1st and 16th through January 2025. The dates then spread out, ending with Human Fall Flat on July 1, 2028.
4. First party and EA Play titles are farther out, starting in 2049, with many in 2799 and 9998.
5. No date - some items do not have a price and so don't have a date. If the item is part of a bundle that has a price, the date from the bundle is used.

The list below uses the dates associated with games on Game Pass and EA Play. Time stamps in red are the regular Game Pass departure times and titles in red are confirmed to be leaving, either from Microsoft's regular news postings or by devs / publishers. Items available through Game Pass Core, currently on sale or not available for purchase are also color coded.

The date associated with a Game Pass game is not a guarantee it will leave on that date, but since March 2023 when the price data started getting analyzed, every game that's left Game Pass had been flagged as leaving on that date. It's given a number of people an extra heads up on the generally 2 week notice Microsoft provides.

If you have any questions about the list, please ask in the thread.

Most likely current and pending sales

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2024-05-31 09:59:59

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun​

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide​

2024-06-03 23:59:59

Broken Age (PC)​

Dead by Daylight Windows (PC)​

Dishonored® Definitive Edition (PC) (PC)​

Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™ (PC) (PC)​

DOOM Eternal Standard Edition (PC) (PC)​

Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes​

Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes (Not available for purchase)​

Fallout (PC)​

Fallout 2 (PC)​

Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (PC)​

Fallout 4 (PC) (PC)​

Fallout 76 - PC (PC)​

Fallout Tactics (PC)​

Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition (PC)​

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition for Windows 10 (PC)​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection (PC)​

Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition (PC)​

Pillars of Eternity: Definitive Edition (PC)​

Prey (PC)​

Psychonauts (Windows 10) (PC)​

Quantum Break (PC)​

RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Windows (PC)​

Rise of Nations: Extended Edition (PC)​

SpiderHeck​

Sunset Overdrive (PC)​

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition (PC) (PC)​

The Outer Worlds (PC)​

The Yakuza Remastered Collection for Windows 10 (PC)​

Torment: Tides of Numenera (PC)​

Wolfenstein II: Standard Edition (PC)​

Wolfenstein: The New Order (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein: Youngblood (PC) (PC)​

2024-06-04 09:59:59

Airborne Kingdom​

Assassin's Creed® Odyssey​

Assassin's Creed® Origins​

Atomic Heart​

Atomic Heart (Windows) (PC)​

Call of the Wild: The Angler™​

Car Mechanic Simulator 2021​

Cities: Skylines - Xbox One Edition​

Dead Cells - Game Pass Core​

Far Cry® 6​

FOR HONOR​

From Space​

House Flipper​

Human Fall Flat - Game Pass Core​

Jurassic World Evolution 2​

Lightyear Frontier (Game Preview)​

Medieval Dynasty​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase)​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

Monster Hunter Rise​

Monster Sanctuary​

Ni no Kuni Wrath of the White Witch™ Remastered​

No Man's Sky​

PAYDAY 3​

Scorn​

SnowRunner​

SnowRunner (Windows 10) (PC)​

Tales of Arise​

Tales of Arise (Xbox One) (Not available for purchase)​

Tales of Arise (Xbox Series X|S) (Not available for purchase)​

theHunter: Call of the Wild™​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege (Not available for purchase)​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege Deluxe Edition​

2024-05-29 17:59:59

The Rewinder​

2024-05-31 15:59:59

Tell Me Why - Tell Me Why: Chapter 2 (Not available for purchase)​

Tell Me Why - Tell Me Why: Chapter 3 (Not available for purchase)​

Tell Me Why: Chapters 1-3​

2024-06-01 09:59:59

Assassin's Creed® Origins​

Batman™: Arkham Knight​

Chicory: A Colorful Tale​

Cricket 22​

Farworld Pioneers​

FOR HONOR​

Generation Zero®​

Insurgency: Sandstorm​

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle R​

LEGO® Star Wars™: The Skywalker Saga (Game Pass only SKU) (Not available for purchase)​

Little Witch in the Woods (Game Preview)​

NINJA GAIDEN 3: Razor's Edge (Not available for purchase)​

NINJA GAIDEN Σ (Not available for purchase)​

NINJA GAIDEN Σ2 (Not available for purchase)​

NINJA GAIDEN: Master Collection​

PAC-MAN MUSEUM+​

Railway Empire 2​

Railway Empire 2 (Win) (PC)​

Rune Factory 4 Special​

Rune Factory 4 Special - Windows Edition (PC)​

Soccer Story​

Spacelines from the Far Out​

2024-06-08 15:59:59

Little Kitty, Big City​

2024-06-09 09:59:59

Diablo® IV (Not available for purchase)​

2024-06-16 09:59:59

ASTRONEER - Game Pass Core​

Bramble: The Mountain King (moved from 2024-07-01)​

Dordogne​

Dordogne (Windows) (PC)​

High On Life​

Mortal Kombat 11​

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge - Game Pass Core​

The Bookwalker: Thief of Tales​

2024-06-16 23:59:59

Lightyear Frontier (Game Preview)​

2024-06-17 03:59:59

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase)​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

2024-06-18 08:59:59

The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited (Not available for purchase)​

2024-06-20 07:59:59

Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II​

2024-06-22 13:59:59

Galacticare​

Hauntii​

2024-06-23 09:59:59

Minecraft​

Minecraft Dungeons​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Legends​

Minecraft Legends - Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Legends for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft: Java & Bedrock Edition for PC (PC)​

Minecraft: Java Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

2024-06-26 15:59:59

Open Roads​

2024-07-01 09:59:59

Arcade Paradise​

F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch​

Far Cry® 5​

Injustice™ 2​

Injustice™ 2 - Standard Edition (PC)​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Digital Edition​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Windows Edition (PC)​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Windows Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town (Not available for purchase)​

Stranded Deep​

Stranded Deep (PC)​

Sword and Fairy: Together Forever​

2024-07-08 13:59:59

Botany Manor​

Botany Manor (PC)​

2024-07-15 12:59:59

Harold Halibut​

2024-07-16 09:59:59

Coffee Talk Episode 2: Hibiscus and Butterfly​

Common'hood​

Figment 2: Creed Valley​

Forager​

Forager (PC)​

Frostpunk (PC)​

Frostpunk: Console Edition​

Middle-earth™: Shadow of War™ (moved from 2024-01-01)​

My Friend Peppa Pig​

Neon Abyss​

Neon Abyss (PC)​

Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion (PC)​

The Wandering Village (Game Preview)​

TOEM​

Watch Dogs®2​

2024-07-24 15:59:59

Another Crab's Treasure​

2024-07-25 12:59:59

Manor Lords (Game Preview) (PC)​

2024-08-01 09:59:59

A Short Hike​

Genesis Noir​

Genesis Noir: Windows Edition (PC)​

Goat Simulator (moved from 2024-05-01)​

Inkulinati​

Roboquest​

This War of Mine: Final Cut (moved from 2024-05-16)​

Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon® Wildlands - Standard Edition (Game Pass only SKU)​

Train Sim World® 4 (Not available for purchase)​

Train Sim World® 4: Standard Edition​

Turbo Golf Racing​

Venba​

2024-08-16 09:59:59

Airborne Kingdom​

Atomic Heart​

Atomic Heart (Windows) (PC)​

Conan Exiles​

EVERSPACE™ 2​

HUMANKIND™​

HUMANKIND™ (PC)​

Offworld Trading Company (PC)​

Shadow Warrior 3: Definitive Edition​

Shadow Warrior 3: Definitive Edition (PC)​

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre​

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre - PC Edition (PC)​

2024-09-01 09:59:59

Call of the Wild: The Angler™​

Disney Dreamlight Valley​

Goat Simulator Windows 10 (PC)​

Guilty Gear -Strive-​

Immortals Fenyx Rising™​

NBA 2K24 for Xbox One​

NBA 2K24 for Xbox Series X|S​

2024-09-16 09:59:59

Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation (PC)​

Assassin's Creed® Odyssey​

Ni no Kuni™ II: Revenant Kingdom - The Prince's Edition​

Party Animals (moved from 2024-01-04)​

PAYDAY 3​

Slime Rancher 2​

SpiderHeck​

Valheim (Game Preview)​

You Suck at Parking® Complete Edition​

2024-10-01 09:59:59

Cocoon​

Gotham Knights​

Let's Build a Zoo​

Loop Hero​

My Time At Portia (moved from 2024-01-09)​

My Time At Portia (PC)​

PAW Patrol: Grand Prix​

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy​

The Walking Dead: Season 1 (PC)​

The Walking Dead: Season 2 (PC)​

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide​

2024-10-16 09:59:59

Dyson Sphere Program (Game Preview) (PC)​

F1® Manager 2023​

From Space​

Like a Dragon: Ishin!​

Scorn​

Stellaris (PC)​

Stellaris: Console Edition​

2024-11-01 09:59:59

Deep Rock Galactic - Game Pass Core​

Football Manager 2024 (PC)​

Football Manager 2024 Console​

Frog Detective: The Entire Mystery (moved from 2023-11-01)​

Headbangers: Rhythm Royale​

Lonely Mountains: Downhill​

Mineko's Night Market​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 2 (PC)​

2024-11-16 09:59:59

Dicey Dungeons​

Dune: Spice Wars​

Dungeons 4​

Dungeons 4 (Win) (PC)​

Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name​

Persona 5 Tactica​

Somerville​

2024-12-01 09:59:59

Amnesia: The Bunker​

Car Mechanic Simulator 2021​

Clone Drone in the Danger Zone​

Monster Sanctuary​

Monster Sanctuary (Windows Version) (PC)​

Moonlighter​

PAW Patrol Mighty Pups Save Adventure Bay​

Remnant: From the Ashes​

Rise of the Tomb Raider (PC)​

Rollerdrome​

Spirit of the North: Enhanced Edition​

The Walking Dead: The Final Season - The Complete Season​

The Walking Dead: The Final Season (PC)​

While the Iron's Hot​

World War Z: Aftermath​

World War Z: Aftermath (PC)​

2024-12-16 09:59:59

Ben 10: Power Trip​

Hello Neighbor 2​

No Man's Sky​

Rainbow Billy: The Curse of the Leviathan​

The Gunk​

The Quarry for Xbox One​

The Quarry for Xbox Series X|S​

Tin Hearts​

2025-01-01 09:59:59

BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle Special Edition​

Close to the Sun​

Close to the Sun. (PC)​

Death's Door​

Death's Door (PC)​

Hell Let Loose​

House Flipper​

LEGO® 2K Drive Cross-Gen Standard Edition​

LEGO® 2K Drive for Xbox One​

LEGO® 2K Drive for Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

McPixel 3​

2025-01-16 09:59:59

Exoprimal​

Figment: Journey Into the Mind​

Insurgency: Sandstorm (Windows) (PC)​

Maquette​

Medieval Dynasty (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Medieval Dynasty (Xbox One)​

Palworld (Game Preview)​

Those Who Remain​

Those Who Remain. (PC)​

2025-02-01 09:59:59

Anuchard​

Broforce​

Brotato​

Crusader Kings III​

Crusader Kings III (PC)​

Darkest Dungeon PC (PC)​

Darkest Dungeon®​

Escape Academy​

Go Mecha Ball​

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Persona 3 Reload​

Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem​

Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem (PC)​

2025-02-16 09:59:59

A Little to the Left​

Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night​

Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (PC)​

Return to Grace​

Tales of Arise​

Tales of Arise (Windows) (PC)​

Tales of Arise (Xbox One) (Not available for purchase)​

Tales of Arise (Xbox Series X|S) (Not available for purchase)​

2025-03-01 09:59:59

Bluey: The Videogame​

Dead Island 2​

GRIS​

Gris (PC)​

Indivisible​

Indivisible (PC)​

Maneater​

Merge & Blade​

PAW Patrol World​

Space Engineers​

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun​

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun - Windows (PC)​

Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty (Not available for purchase)​

2025-03-16 09:59:59

Evil West​

Evil West (Windows) (PC)​

Lies of P​

No More Heroes 3 Windows (PC)​

No More Heroes 3 Xbox​

No More Heroes 3 Xbox​

Solar Ash​

SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom - Rehydrated​

SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom - Rehydrated (PC)​

TUNIC (moved from 2024-04-01)​

2025-04-01 09:59:59

HOT WHEELS UNLEASHED™ 2 - Turbocharged​

Lil Gator Game​

Monster Hunter Rise (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Terra Invicta (Game Preview) (PC)​

The Lamplighters League - PC Edition (PC)​

The Yakuza Remastered Collection (moved from 2024-04-01)​

The Yakuza Remastered Collection for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 0 (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 0 for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 3 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 3 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 4 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 4 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 5 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 5 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 6: The Song of Life (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza 6: The Song of Life for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami 2 (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami 2 for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza Kiwami for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Yakuza: Like a Dragon (moved from 2024-04-01)​

Zombie Army 4: Dead War​

2025-04-16 09:59:59

A Plague Tale: Requiem​

A Plague Tale: Requiem - Windows (PC)​

Coral Island​

Homestead Arcana​

Kona​

Orcs Must Die! 3​

Rise of the Tomb Raider (Not available for purchase)​

Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Not available for purchase)​

Shadow of the Tomb Raider Definitive Edition​

2025-05-01 09:59:59

Have a Nice Death​

Kona II: Brume​

Sniper Elite 5​

The Last Case of Benedict Fox: Definitive Edition​

Thirsty Suitors​

Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition​

2025-05-16 09:59:59

Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons​

Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons (PC)​

Chants of Sennaar​

Chants of Sennaar (Windows) (PC)​

Farming Simulator 22​

Farming Simulator 22 PC (PC)​

Jurassic World Evolution 2​

Planet of Lana​

2025-06-01 09:59:59

Against the Storm (PC)​

Cassette Beasts​

Goat Simulator 3​

Goat Simulator 3: Windows Edition (PC)​

Hypnospace Outlaw​

Moving Out 2​

PAYDAY 2: CRIMEWAVE EDITION - Game Pass Core​

Remnant II® - Standard Edition​

Slayers X: Terminal Aftermath: Vengance of the Slayer​

The Big Con​

2025-06-16 09:59:59

Far Cry® 6​

Shadowrun Returns​

Shadowrun Trilogy​

Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut​

Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege (Not available for purchase)​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege Deluxe Edition​

2025-07-15 09:59:59

Turnip Boy Robs a Bank​

2025-07-16 09:59:59

Assassin's Creed® Valhalla​

2025-08-01 09:59:59

Cooking Simulator (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Cooking Simulator Windows (PC) (moved from 2024-02-16)​

Starbound (PC) (moved from 2024-05-01)​

2025-08-16 09:59:59

PlateUp!​

2025-09-01 09:59:59

Sea of Stars​

2025-09-16 09:59:59

RESIDENT EVIL 2​

2025-10-16 09:59:59

Cities: Skylines II - PC Edition (PC)​

RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Windows (PC)​

2025-11-01 09:59:59

Jusant​

Return to Monkey Island​

Wartales​

2025-11-16 09:59:59

Spirittea​

2025-12-01 09:59:59

SteamWorld Build​

2025-12-16 09:59:59

Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition​

2026-04-01 09:59:59

Cities: Skylines - Remastered​

Cities: Skylines - Windows 10 Edition (PC)​

Cities: Skylines - Xbox One Edition​

2026-05-01 09:59:59

Citizen Sleeper​

DayZ (moved from 2024-05-01)​

Descenders - Game Pass Core​

2026-05-16 09:59:59

Shadowrun Returns PC (PC)​

Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut PC (PC)​

Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition PC (PC)​

2026-06-01 09:59:59

Dead by Daylight​

Dead by Daylight Windows (PC)​

theHunter: Call of the Wild™​

theHunter: Call of the Wild™ - Windows 10 (PC)​

2026-06-16 09:59:59

Among Us - Game Pass Core​

2026-07-01 09:59:59

Slay The Spire - Game Pass Core​

Slay The Spire (PC)​

Unpacking - Game Pass Core​

2026-07-16 09:59:59

Golf With Your Friends - Game Pass Core​

Golf With Your Friends (Windows Version) (PC)​

PowerWash Simulator - Game Pass Core (moved from 2024-07-16)​

Techtonica (Game Preview)​

2026-08-01 09:59:59

Celeste - Game Pass Core​

INSIDE - Game Pass Core​

2026-08-16 09:59:59

Firewatch - Game Pass Core​

LIMBO - Game Pass Core​

LIMBO (PC)​

2026-09-16 09:59:59

Dead Cells - Game Pass Core​

Dead Cells (PC)​

Spiritfarer®: Farewell Edition - Game Pass Core​

Superliminal - Game Pass Core​

2026-10-01 09:59:59

Chivalry 2 - Game Pass Core​

2026-11-16 09:59:59

Wreckfest - Game Pass Core​

Wreckfest (PC)​

2026-12-01 09:59:59

Stardew Valley - Game Pass Core​

Stardew Valley (PC)​

Totally Reliable Delivery Service - Game Pass Core​

Vampire Survivors - Game Pass Core​

2027-02-01 09:59:59

Trailmakers​

2027-03-16 09:59:59

Control​

Control Standard Edition - Control Expansion Pack 1 The Foundation (PC)​

Control Standard Edition - Control Expansion Pack 2 AWE (PC)​

Control Standard Edition (PC)​

Control Ultimate Edition​

Control Ultimate Edition - Xbox Series X|S​

Control Ultimate Edition (PC)​

2027-04-01 09:59:59

SUPERHOT: MIND CONTROL DELETE - Game Pass Core​

2027-05-01 09:59:59

SnowRunner (moved from 2024-05-01)​

SnowRunner (Windows 10) (PC) (moved from 2024-05-01)​

2027-06-01 09:59:59

Terraria​

2027-06-16 09:59:59

Totally Accurate Battle Simulator​

2027-12-16 09:59:59

Overcooked! 2 - Game Pass Core​

Overcooked! 2 (PC)​

2028-07-01 09:59:59

Human Fall Flat - Game Pass Core​

Far future dates, mostly first party and EA Play

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2048-12-30 23:59:59

Dead Space - EA Play - 2023-10-26​

EA SPORTS™ PGA TOUR™ - EA Play -​

F1® 23 - EA Play -​

GRID Legends - EA Play - 2022-09-01​

Madden NFL 24 - EA Play -​

STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor™ - EA Play -​

Super Mega Baseball™ 4 - EA Play -​

WILD HEARTS™ Standard Edition - EA Play -​

2049-12-30 23:59:59

Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition​

Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition (4K HDR bundle) (PC)​

Madden NFL 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​

Madden NFL 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​

NHL® 24 Xbox One - EA Play -​

NHL® 24 Xbox Series X|S - EA Play -​

2098-12-31 23:59:59

Battlefield™ 1 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

NBA LIVE 19 - EA Play - 2019-05-10​

Plants vs. Zombies™ Garden Warfare 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

2099-02-01 19:59:59

Halo Wars 2: Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​

2099-04-04 09:59:59

Halo Wars 2 (Not available for purchase)​

2099-04-18 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 2​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 3​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 4​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 5​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Season Pass (Episodes 2-5)​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - The Complete Season (Episodes 1-5)​

2099-10-02 23:59:59

Forza Horizon 4 - Forza Horizon 4 Formula Drift Car Pack​

2099-12-29 23:59:59

State of Decay 2: Juggernaut Edition - Game Pass Core​

2100-06-12 23:59:59

Max: The Curse of Brotherhood​

2220-10-06 03:59:59

Need for Speed™ Hot Pursuit Remastered - EA Play - 2021-06-25​

2220-10-13 23:59:59

Mass Effect™ Legendary Edition - EA Play -​

2220-10-22 23:59:59

Battlefield™ V (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-06-20​

2220-12-11 23:59:59

It Takes Two - Digital Version - EA Play - 2021-11-03​

2779-12-30 23:59:59

DIRT 5 - EA Play - 2021-08-10​

DiRT Rally 2.0 - EA Play - 2021-08-10​

2798-12-30 21:59:59

Wasteland Remastered​

2798-12-31 23:59:59

Fuzion Frenzy®​

The Elder Scrolls® Online - Game Pass Core​

Zoo Tycoon: Ultimate Animal Collection​

2799-01-14 23:59:59

Age of Empires III: Definitive Edition (PC)​

2799-02-01 09:59:59

Halo Wars 2 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

2799-02-08 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: The Complete First Season​

2799-02-08 23:59:59

Forza Horizon 5 Standard Edition​

2799-02-17 23:59:59

Wolfenstein: Youngblood​

Wolfenstein: Youngblood (PC) (PC)​

2799-02-28 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: Season Two​

2799-03-02 23:59:59

Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary (PC)​

2799-03-07 23:59:59

Halo Infinite (Campaign)​

2799-03-11 23:59:59

Dishonored® Definitive Edition​

Dishonored® Definitive Edition (PC) (PC)​

DOOM (1993)​

DOOM 3​

DOOM 64​

DOOM II (Classic)​

Fallout 4 - Game Pass Core​

Fallout 4 (PC) (PC)​

Oblivion​

Prey (Cloud Gaming enabled)​

Prey (PC)​

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind​

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Game of the Year Edition (PC) (PC)​

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (PC) (PC)​

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition (PC) (PC)​

The Evil Within​

The Evil Within (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein: The New Order​

Wolfenstein: The New Order (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein: The Old Blood​

Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (PC) (PC)​

2799-03-16 23:59:59

DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE - PC) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Fallout 76 - Game Pass Core​

Fallout 76 - PC (PC)​

2799-03-17 23:59:59

DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE) (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core​

2799-03-20 23:59:59

Sea of Thieves: 2024 Edition​

2799-03-24 07:59:59

Bleeding Edge​

2799-03-26 23:59:59

Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition​

2799-03-28 09:59:59

The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep​

The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep - The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 2, Give No Shelter​

The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep - The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 3, What We Deserve​

The Walking Dead: Michonne - The Complete Season​

2799-03-28 23:59:59

Lost in Random™ - EA Play - 2022-04-13​

2799-04-10 23:59:59

Ori and the Will of the Wisps - Game Pass Core​

2799-04-29 23:59:59

Joy Ride Turbo​

2799-05-12 23:59:59

Psychonauts​

Psychonauts (Windows 10) (PC)​

2799-05-17 23:59:59

MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries​

2799-05-18 23:59:59

Wasteland 2: Director's Cut​

2799-05-31 23:59:59

Banjo Kazooie: N n B​

Banjo-Kazooie​

Banjo-Tooie​

Disneyland Adventures​

Fable III​

Gears of War​

Gears of War 2​

Gears of War: Judgment​

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition (Not available for purchase)​

Halo 5: Guardians - Game Pass Core​

Halo: Spartan Assault​

Jetpac Refuelled​

Kameo​

Perfect Dark Zero​

Rush: A DisneyPixar Adventure​

Sunset Overdrive​

Viva Piñata​

Viva Piñata: TIP​

2799-06-09 05:59:59

Crackdown 3​

Crackdown 3: Campaign (Not available for purchase)​

Crackdown 3: Wrecking Zone (Not available for purchase)​

Forza Horizon 4 Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​

Gears of War 4​

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition for Windows 10 (PC)​

Halo: Spartan Assault (Mobile / PC)​

Halo: Spartan Strike​

Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice (PC)​

Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition (PC)​

ReCore​

2799-06-09 06:58:59

Halo Wars 2: Standard Edition (PC) - Game Pass Core​

Sunset Overdrive (PC)​

2799-06-09 23:59:59

Gears 5​

The Outer Worlds​

The Outer Worlds (PC)​

2799-06-13 18:59:59

Arx Fatalis (PC)​

BATTLETECH (PC)​

Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™​

Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™ (PC) (PC)​

DOOM​

Fallout (PC)​

Fallout 2 (PC)​

Fallout 3​

Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (PC)​

Fallout Tactics (PC)​

Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition (PC)​

Psychonauts 2 - Game Pass Core​

RAGE​

The Evil Within® 2​

The Evil Within® 2 (PC) (PC)​

Wolfenstein II: Standard Edition (PC)​

Wolfenstein® II: The New Colossus™​

2799-06-14 23:59:59

ScreamRide​

2799-06-17 23:59:59

The Bard's Tale ARPG : Remastered and Resnarkled​

2799-06-21 23:59:59

The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited (Not available for purchase)​

2799-06-26 23:59:59

Torment: Tides of Numenera (PC)​

2799-06-30 23:59:59

Banjo Kazooie: N n B (Not available for purchase)​

Banjo-Kazooie (Not available for purchase)​

Banjo-Tooie (Not available for purchase)​

Fable II​

GoldenEye 007 (Not available for purchase)​

Jetpac Refuelled (Not available for purchase)​

Perfect Dark​

Perfect Dark (Not available for purchase)​

Perfect Dark Zero (Not available for purchase)​

Rare Replay​

Ryse: Legendary Edition​

Ryse: Son of Rome (Not available for purchase)​

State of Decay: Year-One (Not available for purchase)​

2799-07-13 23:59:59

Halo 3 (PC)​

2799-07-18 23:59:59

BLiNX: The Time Sweeper​

Crimson Skies®: High Road to Revenge™​

2799-07-21 23:59:59

Grounded - Game Pass Core​

2799-08-13 14:59:59

The Bard's Tale Trilogy​

2799-08-16 23:59:59

Microsoft Solitaire Collection​

2799-08-17 23:59:59

New Super Lucky's Tale​

2799-08-19 14:59:59

Age of Empires Definitive Edition (PC)​

2799-08-19 19:59:59

Quake​

Quake III Arena (PC)​

2799-08-19 23:59:59

Battletoads​

2799-08-24 23:59:59

Halo Infinite​

2799-08-27 14:59:59

The Bard's Tale IV: Director's Cut​

2799-08-31 23:59:59

Fable Anniversary - Game Pass Core​

Gears of War 3​

Mass Effect​

2799-09-19 23:59:59

Tell Me Why​

Tell Me Why - Tell Me Why: Chapter 2 (Not available for purchase)​

Tell Me Why - Tell Me Why: Chapter 3 (Not available for purchase)​

Tell Me Why: Chapters 1-3​

Wasteland 3​

Wasteland 3 (PC) (PC)​

2799-09-22 02:59:59

Halo 3: ODST (PC)​

2799-09-30 23:59:59

Dishonored 2 - Game Pass Core​

Dishonored 2 (PC)​

DOOM Eternal Standard Edition - Game Pass Core​

Phoenix Point​

2799-10-07 23:59:59

Brütal Legend​

2799-10-14 23:59:59

Fallout: New Vegas (BC)​

2799-10-27 23:59:59

Day of the Tentacle Remastered​

Full Throttle Remastered​

Grim Fandango Remastered​

2799-10-28 14:59:59

Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition (PC)​

2799-11-03 23:59:59

Minecraft Launcher (PC)​

2799-11-08 23:59:59

Battlefield™ 2042 Xbox One - EA Play -​

2799-11-09 15:59:59

Gears Tactics​

2799-11-14 23:59:59

Halo 4 (PC)​

Halo: Reach (PC)​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo 3: ODST​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo: Reach​

Halo: The Master Chief Collection (PC)​

RAGE 2​

RAGE 2 (PC) (PC)​

2799-11-16 23:59:59

ARK: Survival Evolved Explorer's Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

ARK: Survival Evolved Explorer's Edition (Not available for purchase)​

2799-11-23 00:59:59

Forza Horizon 5 (Not available for purchase)​

Forza Motorsport (Not available for purchase)​

2799-11-23 23:59:59

Gears 5 Game of the Year Edition - Game Pass Core​

2799-12-03 15:59:59

DOOM Eternal Standard Edition (PC) (PC)​

2799-12-07 23:59:59

Need for Speed™ Unbound - EA Play - 2023-06-22​

2799-12-11 23:59:59

Halo Wars: Definitive Edition (PC) (PC)​

2799-12-13 23:59:59

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition​

2799-12-17 23:59:59

Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice - Game Pass Core​

2799-12-30 23:59:59

Battlefield 4 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Battlefield™ 2042 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2022-11-22​

Burnout™ Paradise Remastered - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

Fe - EA Play - 2018-09-03​

Immortals of Aveum™ - EA Play -​

Mirror's Edge™ Catalyst - EA Play - 2019-05-14​

Need for Speed Rivals - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Need for Speed™ - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Need for Speed™ Heat - EA Play - 2020-07-14​

Need for Speed™ Payback - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

NHL® 94 REWIND - EA Play - 2021-03-01​

Peggle 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-14​

Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Plants vs. Zombies: Battle for Neighborville™ - EA Play - 2020-03-04​

STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order™ - EA Play - 2020-11-10​

STAR WARS™ Battlefront™ II - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

STAR WARS™: Squadrons - EA Play -​

Super Mega Baseball 3 - EA Play - 2022-03-03​

The Sims™ 4 - EA Play -​

The Sims™ 4 EA Play Edition (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-05-22​

Titanfall® 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

UFC® 4 - EA Play -​

Unravel - EA Play - 2019-05-08​

Unravel Two - EA Play - 2019-01-19​

2799-12-31 22:59:59

skate. (2007) - EA Play - 2021-08-05​

9998-12-30 00:00:00

A Way Out - EA Play - 2019-11-02​

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition​

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (PC)​

Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (Not available for purchase)​

Alice: Madness Returns - EA Play - 2019-10-25​

An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire (PC)​

Anthem™ - EA Play - 2019-10-09​

ARK: Survival Ascended​

ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition​

ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition (PC)​

Army of Two™ - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

As Dusk Falls​

Battlefield 3™ - EA Play - 2011-10-08​

Battlefield™ 1 Revolution - EA Play -​

Battlefield™ Hardline (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2018-07-08​

Bejeweled 2 - EA Play - 2008-03-08​

Bejeweled 3 - EA Play - 2011-10-14​

BLACK™ - EA Play -​

Broken Age​

Broken Age (PC)​

Contrast​

Costume Quest​

Costume Quest 2​

Crysis - EA Play - 2020-07-09​

Crysis 2 - EA Play - 2020-07-09​

Dante's Inferno™ - EA Play - 2018-08-02​

Dead Space (2008) - EA Play - 2008-10-08​

Dead Space™ 2 - EA Play -​

Dead Space™ 3 - EA Play -​

Dead Space™ Ignition - EA Play - 2010-10-13​

DEATHLOOP​

Diablo® IV (Not available for purchase)​

Dragon Age: Origins - EA Play -​

Dragon Age™ 2 - EA Play -​

Dragon Age™: Inquisition (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2014-10-28​

Feeding Frenzy - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Feeding Frenzy 2 - EA Play - 2008-09-17​

FIGHT NIGHT CHAMPION - EA Play -​

Forza Horizon 4 (Not available for purchase)​

Forza Motorsport Standard Edition​

Gang Beasts - Game Pass Core​

Ghostwire: Tokyo​

Halo 2: Anniversary (PC)​

Halo Wars: Definitive Edition​

Heavy Weapon - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Hi-Fi RUSH​

Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition​

Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition (PC)​

Mass Effect 2 - EA Play -​

Mass Effect™ 3 - EA Play -​

Mass Effect™: Andromeda (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2017-03-15​

MASSIVE CHALICE​

Medal of Honor Airborne - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Microsoft Flight Simulator (Not available for purchase)​

Microsoft Flight Simulator Standard 40th Anniversary Edition​

Minecraft​

Minecraft Dungeons​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Dungeons for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Legends​

Minecraft Legends - Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Legends for Windows + Launcher (PC)​

Minecraft: Java & Bedrock Edition for PC (PC)​

Minecraft: Java Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Mirror's Edge™ - EA Play - 2008-11-05​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)​

Ni no Kuni Wrath of the White Witch™ Remastered​

Peggle - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

Pentiment​

Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition (PC) (PC)​

Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition​

Pillars of Eternity: Complete Edition​

Pillars of Eternity: Definitive Edition (PC)​

Plants vs. Zombies - EA Play - 2010-09-24​

Quake 4 (PC)​

Quake II​

Quantum Break​

Quantum Break (PC)​

Redfall​

RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Xbox (Not available for purchase)​

Return to Castle Wolfenstein (PC)​

Rise of Nations: Extended Edition (PC)​

Sea of Solitude - EA Play - 2020-01-21​

Skate 3 - EA Play -​

SSX - EA Play - 2012-02-21​

Stacking​

STAR WARS™ Battlefront™ (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2018-11-11​

Starfield​

The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard (PC)​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1​

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier (Episode 1) (PC)​

Torment: Tides of Numenera​

We Happy Few​

We Happy Few (PC)​

Wolfenstein 3D (PC)​

Zuma - EA Play - 2008-03-15​

Zuma's Revenge! - EA Play - 2012-07-07​

No set date

Assassin's Creed® Odyssey (Game Pass only SKU) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Assassin's Creed® Origins (Game Pass only SKU) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Assassin's Creed® Valhalla (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Crysis® 3 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-07-09​

Diablo® IV PC (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

EA SPORTS™ FIFA 23 Standard Edition Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-05-16​

EA SPORTS™ FIFA 23 Standard Edition Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-05-16​

EA SPORTS™ UFC® 3 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-08-19​

F1® 22 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-06-30​

F1® 22 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-06-30​

Far Cry® 5 (Game Pass only SKU) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Far Cry® 6 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

FIFA 22 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2021-11-21​

FIFA 22 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2021-11-21​

FOR HONOR : MARCHING FIRE EDITION (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

FOR HONOR : MARCHING FIRE EDITION (Not available for purchase)​

Immortals Fenyx Rising™ (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Iron Brigade - Rise of the Martian Bear (Not available for purchase)​

Iron Brigade (Not available for purchase)​

League of Legends (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Legends of Runeterra (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Madden NFL 23 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-02-09​

Madden NFL 23 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-02-09​

Minecraft Preview (Not available for purchase)​

Minecraft Preview for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase)​

NHL® 21 (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2021-04-12​

NHL® 23 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-04-13​

NHL® 23 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-04-13​

Starfield - Starfield: Old Mars Skin Pack (Not available for purchase)​

Super Lucky's Tale (Not available for purchase)​

Teamfight Tactics (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

The Cave (Not available for purchase)​

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege (Game Pass only SKU) (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon® Wildlands - Standard Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

VALORANT (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

Watch Dogs®2 (PC) (Not available for purchase)​

 

[Ballz2daWalls]

Install base and users actually using old consoles are completely different metrics. Yes there are a lot of old models lying around, but doesn’t mean they’re actually being used. These metrics are also misleading since they include consoles sold, but doesn’t include consoles that are no longer operable. Most gamers have upgraded in some form within the past 7 years and wouldn’t expect to get the same performance as the newer systems. From a business side, those models are outdated and not worth the amount of labor it takes to optimize a game for. Anyone expecting the same experience is either delusional, or living under a rock. And who was it developed for? PC bro, thats who. Fun fact, that’s how most games are developed outside of console exclusives. They are then optimized for console platforms.

Aside from the fact that you're just wrong, the install base is not a minority: Pro and X1X are. When the game was announced, neither PS4 or X1 were, let alone PS5/XSX. Now, who exactly was this developed for again?

 

[bardockkun]

One of the comments from their emergency investor meeting was that saving their reputation is their top priority above all else, no matter the monetary cost. I'm curious how this will take shape because simply fixing the botched launch weeks later only really could stop the bleeding, not heal the wound.

I think restoring faith is going to take some amazing post-launch support, like to the point that some free updates are real content rather than the minor stuff the Witcher 3 did for free. Hard to say if they'll be where they were even then. Witcher 3 had a rough launch too but it wasn't this bad.

As for people playing on the old base consoles, I don't know that they'll be able to do much other than stabilizing the game to 30 and fixing the bugs, which would still leave the visuals looking rough. I think we'll see what happened with Bloodstained fans to a much greater degree due to the popularity. For reference, the majority of sales on BS were for the Switch, where visuals and performance were trash (as expected), but even getting the game to a playable state many people didn't feel it was good enough and they continue to complain at every opportunity.

If I had to guess on them fixing their reputation, my best guess is they're going to offer Witcher 3 GotY for free or something. Though they do have allot more to lose compared to other companies since they're publicly traded and they don't have as many coals in the fire like, well, other publicly traded game companies. It'll be interesting to see and I do hope they can pull it off, but man oh man this is a damn train wreck I can't look away from.

I Don't know if it's Fallout 76 levels bad, but it's pretty close. Waiting on someone to say the collector's edition is made asbestos now or something.

 

[Jodou]

Install base and users actually using old consoles are completely different metrics. Yes there are a lot of old models lying around, but doesn’t mean they’re actually being used. These metrics are also misleading since they include consoles sold, but doesn’t include consoles that are no longer operable. Most gamers have upgraded in some form within the past 7 years and wouldn’t expect to get the same performance as the newer systems. From a business side, those models are outdated and not worth the amount of labor it takes to optimize a game for. Anyone expecting the same experience is either delusional, or living under a rock. And who was it developed for? PC bro, thats who. Fun fact, that’s how most games are developed outside of console exclusives. They are then optimized for console platforms.

Ah, so it was developed for PC. So why is it, that when released on 7 year old hardware, people should accept it will "run sluggish out the gate"? Or maybe, it should have been the expectation that rather than the consumer deal with a incompatible product, they should have canceled last gen console releases. Or delayed until they could deliver that product without requiring months to years worth of patches to fix.

And fun fact, I've been gaming on PCs since I was 5. Bro.

 

[gamegirlpocket]

I've sold our two PS4 Pro's for $330 each. Trick is to bundle it with games that normally sell to GS for like $10 at this point, but provide that extra bonus to whoever is buying it. Both of them sold within half an hour of listing so you can definitely get quite a bit out of these old consoles. I'm still debating what to do with the now OOP X1X though. I should sell it, but I'm kinda fond of that little ing VCR lol. Wouldn't be a bad 4k player for the bedroom if we ever put a TV there with these things getting so cheap now.

Are you using ebay, or Swappa, or something else?

I feel the same way about my One S, I almost want to keep it over the X1X but I'm fond of it too despite being less powerful.

Hard agree here. The vast majority of console gamers did not upgrade to the mid-gen consoles, I think it's something like 10-15 percent, and less than that have been able to find new consoles yet. PC does have a large number of players, but people with good enough hardware to play 2077 are again, a minority.

As for Cyberpunk, I'd say it's a special case as CDPR is very PC focused. The numbers we had were 8 million pre-orders with a 60/40 split favoring PC. I'd still wager that console sales will likely swing to a console majority between holiday sales/gifts, and physical retailer pre-orders have been lower than ever during the pandemic. I don't know when the 8 million number is from, personally I didn't pre-order until the preload was live in case of further delays.

I do think CDPR are very focused on their PC versions first, but they are obviously aware of the massive number of console only players, and have a good record in the past of doing there best supporting these platforms as well as possible.

Clearly PCs have become more powerful since 2013, but as a game that was announced on PS4 and X1 in 2013, you'd think they would have kept those specs in mind when developing since it started there. RDR2 looked impressive even on the One S, or Last of Us 2 with the insane level of detail, it's hard to imagine anything other than PC was lead platform and the console ports were never optimized and were actually an after-thought.

After spending some time on the Cyberpunk 2077 reddit last night, I requested a refund from Microsoft and got it approved in less than an hour. I plan to play it eventually but I can wait 6 months for next-gen versions and whatever patches and content they add, and it'll be $20 by then. Part of me just doesn't want to support the business practice of releasing a game that is so clearly not ready for market on the platform.

This article is also an interesting read:

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-more-time-i-spend-in-cyberpunk-2077s-world-the-less-i-believe-in-it/

 

[flybrione]

I still game on my original Launch Day Xbox One console.

Looking forward to packing it up when my Series X arrived in January.

 

[bee01]

https://youtu.be/i1iIaSbK9bg

Pretty wild that this works - Crimson Skies running in system link mode with 4 generations of Xbox consoles.

 

[Blinking_Pixels]

After spending some time on the Cyberpunk 2077 reddit last night, I requested a refund from Microsoft and got it approved in less than an hour.

How long did you play it? I tried to get a refund yesterday and got denied. I played for 26 hours, but only requested a refund after CPR released their statement yesterday.

 

[confoosious]

@gamergirl - I’m also trying to decide whether to sell the one s. I just signed up for offer up but you can’t tell how much things sold for on that platform. And eBay is all over the place.

 

[SIX min WHISTLE]

Install base and users actually using old consoles are completely different metrics. Yes there are a lot of old models lying around, but doesn’t mean they’re actually being used. These metrics are also misleading since they include consoles sold, but doesn’t include consoles that are no longer operable. Most gamers have upgraded in some form within the past 7 years and wouldn’t expect to get the same performance as the newer systems. From a business side, those models are outdated and not worth the amount of labor it takes to optimize a game for. Anyone expecting the same experience is either delusional, or living under a rock. And who was it developed for? PC bro, thats who. Fun fact, that’s how most games are developed outside of console exclusives. They are then optimized for console platforms.

Maybe it's just my area, but I worked in retail until the pandemic started and the vast majority of consoles I sold, and took in for repair, were base PS4 and Xbox One S/VCR. There are a ton of people that choose not to upgrade or simply can only justify the lower price.

I don't think most people expected the same performance as PC or the better consoles, but do expect a baseline of playable, which the game currently is borderline.

 

[inkcil]

I searched online and cannot find the name of the XB1 exclusive fighting/shooting game where the characters are kinda wild and colorful and have different fighting styles...with a mix of melee and ranged weapons.  No mention of it anywhere and when I google random adjectives nothing comes up.  It came out in the last year or so.  

Anyone know what I'm talking about and if so, any opinions on it?  Thanks. 

 

[SIX min WHISTLE]

I searched online and cannot find the name of the XB1 exclusive fighting/shooting game where the characters are kinda wild and colorful and have different fighting styles...with a mix of melee and ranged weapons. No mention of it anywhere and when I google random adjectives nothing comes up. It came out in the last year or so.

Anyone know what I'm talking about and if so, any opinions on it? Thanks.

Probably Bleeding Edge. Heard mediocre, had a dead player count right away, never bothered trying myself.

 

[awp]

I find it interesting that I haven’t seen a single article with a quote directly from Xbox or Sony spokespeople about Cyberpunk refunds. I don’t think I’ve even seen an article saying they wouldn’t comment. I would hope these news outlets would be trying to get a firm statement from them when many people are still getting denied refunds.

CD Projekt Red is mostly to blame for this mess but it still falls on Sony and MS to provide compensation at this point.

 

[jsivley]

Series S in stock at Microsoft for anyone looking to spend credit
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/configure/942J774TP9JN

 

[Jodou]

Are you using ebay, or Swappa, or something else?

I feel the same way about my One S, I almost want to keep it over the X1X but I'm fond of it too despite being less powerful.

eBay. The poor X1S doesn't go for much there so we were prepared to trade that guy to GS. Doing our own due diligence though, we had wiped the system beforehand only to be told their internet sucks and wouldn't be able to test it without having all the patches downloaded. A customer in line behind us asked how much they were going to give ($110) and straight up offered $100 cash for it. Knowing we couldn't get much more for it online, we just took the offer and that was that.

The X1X though, it's more a relic since they stopped making it and with such a small install base kinda makes it more rare now. Not that I expect it to appreciate at all, just more of a collector's item now.

 

[Jodou]

I find it interesting that I haven’t seen a single article with a quote directly from Xbox or Sony spokespeople about Cyberpunk refunds. I don’t think I’ve even seen an article saying they wouldn’t comment. I would hope these news outlets would be trying to get a firm statement from them when many people are still getting denied refunds.

CD Projekt Red is mostly to blame for this mess but it still falls on Sony and MS to provide compensation at this point.

My favorite portion of their statement is to advise people to try and return it to the store, as if any US store has ever allowed opened returns in the last decade or two thanks to anti-piracy laws. They then direct people to contact them and they'll "do the best they can". Yeah right, that's a ing black hole because they will get slammed with requests and never keep up.

All could have been avoided if they were just honest.

 

[bardockkun]

I find it interesting that I haven’t seen a single article with a quote directly from Xbox or Sony spokespeople about Cyberpunk refunds. I don’t think I’ve even seen an article saying they wouldn’t comment. I would hope these news outlets would be trying to get a firm statement from them when many people are still getting denied refunds.

CD Projekt Red is mostly to blame for this mess but it still falls on Sony and MS to provide compensation at this point.

I Mean CDPR legit threw them under the bus in saying they'll be offering refunds, but today they admitted they don't have any special agreement with Microsoft or Sony in regards to refunds. This isn't really on those companies so much as CDPR just trying to save some face by making a BS claim.

 

[awp]

I Mean CDPR legit threw them under the bus in saying they'll be offering refunds, but today they admitted they don't have any special agreement with Microsoft or Sony in regards to refunds. This isn't really on those companies so much as CDPR just trying to save some face by making a BS claim.

It’s a shitty situation all around. Obviously MS and Sony take their 30% cut or whatever but I would hope CDPR would “refund” the other 70% back to them if they allowed it to go through.

Regardless, CDPR has played mind games all the way through - from not letting reviewers even have console versions to their misleading statements on refunds.

 

[Donken]

I searched online and cannot find the name of the XB1 exclusive fighting/shooting game where the characters are kinda wild and colorful and have different fighting styles...with a mix of melee and ranged weapons. No mention of it anywhere and when I google random adjectives nothing comes up. It came out in the last year or so.

Anyone know what I'm talking about and if so, any opinions on it? Thanks.

Bleeding Edge, I played a couple rounds of it. I love those style games, I have hundreds of hours in Overwatch. Bleeding edge just felt like it didn’t bring anything new to the table and if your team doesn’t work together you have no chance at all. Unless you have a squad I’m not sure how you would ever win. Overwatch is way better IMO.

 

[kcobra22]

https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1338597634597154823?s=20

he says quality mode is the way to go on consoles. I believe it defaults to performance so be sure to change it if you haven't already.

series S is also alongside the X, just lower res.

 

[Blinking_Pixels]

https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1338597634597154823?s=20

he says quality mode is the way to go on consoles. I believe it defaults to performance so be sure to change it if you haven't already.

series S is also alongside the X, just lower res.

Far Cry 3 on a PlayStation 3 was playable.

Cyberpunk 2077 on a Xbox One S barely passes as playable.

 

[darthfracas]

TA’s Twelve Days of Christmas is now entering my wheelhouse... 11 racing game achievements

Added bonus, Forza Horizon 4 just added new achievements.

 

[Bloomy]

TA’s Twelve Days of Christmas is now entering my wheelhouse... 11 racing game achievements

Added bonus, Forza Horizon 4 just added new achievements.

Yeah, I popped a couple for the day 6 Play Anywhere, will hold off on the rest for that day (if I make it that far).

The new Hivebusters DLC for Gears 5 dropped today with another 15 achievements for Play Anywhere as well as the day 10 shooter challenge.

 

[gamegirlpocket]

How long did you play it? I tried to get a refund yesterday and got denied. I played for 26 hours, but only requested a refund after CPR released their statement yesterday.

I never started, I was saving it for my 10 day staycation starting next week. I have enough in my backlog that I would rather play now and will consider Cyberpunk later when it's been worked on more.

 

[elitewillie]

How long did you play it? I tried to get a refund yesterday and got denied. I played for 26 hours, but only requested a refund after CPR released their statement yesterday.

You played for 26hrs. Lol what were you expecting?


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[darthfracas]

Yeah, I popped a couple for the day 6 Play Anywhere, will hold off on the rest for that day (if I make it that far).

The new Hivebusters DLC for Gears 5 dropped today with another 15 achievements for Play Anywhere as well as the day 10 shooter challenge.

I was amused that Shadow of the Tomb Raider qualified for the 10 shooter achievements, that’s what I used.

 

[tyrok]

GwG games now have their own section in your library. That’s where you’ll find any Xbox One games and Xbox/Xbox 360 games that you acquired from their new product pages.

Aha. Just one more place I have to look when trying to find something. Might as well just install everything since I have the space.

 

[Ballz2daWalls]

Because it’s 7 year old hardware that’s had 2 revisions(One S/X) and now 2 next gen successors? Lol it’s common sense if you understand tech, set your expectations low. For someone playing on PC, you sound like a novice not understanding how development/console optimization works.

Ah, so it was developed for PC. So why is it, that when released on 7 year old hardware, people should accept it will "run sluggish out the gate"? Or maybe, it should have been the expectation that rather than the consumer deal with a incompatible product, they should have canceled last gen console releases. Or delayed until they could deliver that product without requiring months to years worth of patches to fix.

And fun fact, I've been gaming on PCs since I was 5. Bro.

 

[redonkalous]

Sorry if posted already but Outriders beta is on Insiders Hub, first come first serve though

 

[ilovexboxone]

anyone get a Xbox Series X or S today??

 

[Dump1eSti1tskin]

Series s is still available at Microsoft

 

[Ryuukishi]

https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1338597634597154823?s=20

he says quality mode is the way to go on consoles. I believe it defaults to performance so be sure to change it if you haven't already.

series S is also alongside the X, just lower res.

I 1000/1000'ed Far Cry 3 on 360 and never thought anything was wrong with its performance. We had different standards back then.

Not to mention all those N64 games that ran at 15 fps and everyone loved them anyway.

 

[w00dm4n]

Because it’s 7 year old hardware that’s had 2 revisions(One S/X) and now 2 next gen successors? Lol it’s common sense if you understand tech, set your expectations low. For someone playing on PC, you sound like a novice not understanding how development/console optimization works.

people get mad with cell phones after a year. iPhone X is like a dinosaur's baby toy compared to the 12

 

[2ndopp]

It's not X|S games, its just xbox1 games with X|S patches that play from ext. Until moving them to X|S storage they will just be the xb1 version.

That's what I'm trying to figure out. Someone here suggested that Xbox One games with X/S patches, the ones that can still be played off an external drive, have the enhancements "disabled" while on the external drive. I have seen nothing to indicate that this is true. I'm pretty sure I see all the enhancements while playing Sea of Thieves and CyberPunk from an external drive. The only thing I can't test is 120fps

"XboxOneGen9Aware" games will keep graphical upgrades like the Halo Collection if they run off the external.

That's what I figure, if they allow the X/S patched game to be playable from an external drive, then the enhancements work from that without the speed of the internal drive. These are my current X/S enhanced games that do not require to be installed on the internal drive. I think you are correct since all of them have the XboxOneGen9Aware tag in the file info:

CyberPunk 2077 (Genurango ConsoleType:XboxOneGen9Aware)

Halo: The Master Chief Collection (Genurango ConsoleType:XboxOneGen9Aware)

Ori and the Will of the Wisps (Genurango ConsoleType:XboxOneGen9Aware)

Rocket League (Genurango ConsoleType:XboxOneGen9Aware)

Sea of Thieves (Genurango ConsoleType:XboxOneGen9Aware)

State of Decay 2 (Genurango ConsoleType:XboxOneGen9Aware)

Concept Destruction is one of the games on my external driver that got the Series X/S enhancement and jumped to my internal drive upon the update. When I transferred the game back to the external drive I got a message that it would not be playable unless it was on the internal.

Yes, many X/S patched/upgraded games require that they be installed on the internal and you get this message. I was discussing the X/S patched games that still run from an external drive and the claim that running them from an external drive "disables" the enhancements

EDIT: Going back, I may have misread JammerFI's initial comment. It seemed like they were saying enhancements don't work on external, but they may just have been commenting that Upgrades need to be transferred and played from the internal drive.

Some games XS enhanced games work from external. However, in most cases XS enhancements will not be enabled until you copy and run the game from SSD storage.

 

[p0rn0saur]

anyone get a Xbox Series X or S today??

I personally didn't but my console share partner got an X at both Bestbuy and Walmart, so if both go through and ship. I got one.

 

[Monsta Mack]

The cyber punk punch card worked for me...and I had it pre-ordered from newegg!

 

[Blinking_Pixels]

You played for 26hrs. Lol what were you expecting?


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This was before I found out that what CDPR had said that refunds can be a thing turned out to be another save face situation. I'm not the only one.

 

[elitewillie]

This was before I found out that what CDPR had said that refunds can be a thing turned out to be another save face situation. I'm not the only one.

The reason companies are so hesitant to provide refunds is because people like you that abuse the system. You played the game for 26hrs. It was clearly not so broken for you that you weren’t able to play it or enjoy. You PLAYED it for 26hrs!!! I for one am happy you got denied.

This is totally different from someone that bought it on a PS4/Xbox that couldn’t play it because the game is clearly broken.

Some of the reviewers beat the game in under the amount of time you played.


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[thundarr]

I believe certain games can be stored on external and the update on the internal which will make them work the same minus the faster load times. Gears 5 was one I think.

 

[Blinking_Pixels]

The reason companies are so hesitant to provide refunds is because people like you that abuse the system. You played the game for 26hrs. It was clearly not so broken for you that you weren’t able to play it or enjoy. You PLAYED it for 26hrs!!! I for one am happy you got denied.

This is totally different from someone that bought it on a PS4/Xbox that couldn’t play it because the game is clearly broken.

Some of the reviewers beat the game in under the amount of time you played.


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I played it on a Xbox One S. If I had a Xbox Series X or even a Xbox One X I wouldn't be asking for a refund.

 

[elitewillie]

I played it on a Xbox One S. If I had a Xbox Series X or even a Xbox One X I wouldn't be asking for a refund.

The reason you were denied is because you PLAYED it for 26hrs, not the console you played it on. No logical person is going to think that a game that some played for 26hrs was unplayable. Therefore your refund was denied. If the game was unplayable you would have returned it in the first couple of hours. I’m sure you played a bunch of the game, or possibly beat it and now you want your money back. Nice try but they didn’t fall for it.


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[Donken]

Reminds me of my old boss, she used to work at Disneyland in customer service. Some people would come in at 11am or 1pm and say they weren’t having fun, they had no problem refunding them or compensating them somehow. Then some people would come in as the park was closing and say they didn’t have any fun and want a refund after spending the entire day in the park. They would deny them and say that they paid for a day at Disneyland and received a day at Disneyland and they are sorry they didn’t enjoy it.

I won’t fault you for trying though, this is cheap ass gamer, I’m not sure how you get much more cheap ass then playing 26 hours of a game and then getting a full refund. That’s pro level cheap ass, if it had worked.

 

[inkcil]

Bleeding Edge, I played a couple rounds of it. I love those style games, I have hundreds of hours in Overwatch. Bleeding edge just felt like it didn’t bring anything new to the table and if your team doesn’t work together you have no chance at all. Unless you have a squad I’m not sure how you would ever win. Overwatch is way better IMO.

Bleeding Edge, ok thanks! I couldn't think of the name of it.

 

[inkcil]

Probably Bleeding Edge. Heard mediocre, had a dead player count right away, never bothered trying myself.

Yeah and it looks like its multiplayer only, which is not my genre. Too bad there's no single player campaign.

 

[captbrannigan]

Man, people sure love to hate on bad releases. This reminds me of Anthem, when people were clamoring in here about how bad it was when they were just going off memes. Don't get me wrong, Anthem had all kinds of issues, but it wasn't unplayable. CP2077 is 100,000x better than Anthem at launch, yet here people are memeing it up about how it's the worst piece of software ever released. WB didn't apologize for Shadows of Mordor running like garbage on 360, and I sure as hell couldn't have gotten a refund after the hours I put in before I got frustrated with it (not that digital refunds were even a thing in them days).

Publically traded companies have to meet deadlines, regardless of performance issues. They couldn't keep postponing CP2077. They probably wanted to optimize it more for previous gen, but Covid restrictions limited what they could accomplish. Hopefully they can patch it and get the frame rate into a better place, but people comparing the textures on PS4 and high end PC might as well be comparing McD's to some $1000 burger with gold foil on it.

I played a good dozen hours on X1X last weekend and had a great time. I haven't had a chance to sit down with it post patch, or to switch it to quality mode, but both of those should address what minor issues I had. Games have bugs at launch, get over it. CP2077 is fantastic and I'm looking forward to putting more time in when I can.

 

[josekortez]

This has probably been mentioned already, but Kellogg's Family Rewards has an offer to get 14 days of Game Pass Ultimate by uploading a receipt that shows the purchase of a Kellogg's product from a participating retailer.  The Kellogg's product has to be purchased between 11/2/2020 and 3/31/21, and a photo of the receipt has to be uploaded within 30 days of purchase by 4/30/21.  

https://www.kelloggsfamilyrewards.com/en_US/promotions/xbox-game-pass/

Last night, I bought a can of Pringles ($1.67) and two boxes of Pop-Tarts (50 cents each, don't ask) in the same transaction at Kroger, uploaded the receipt this morning, and I got two 14-day codes sent to me within the same hour.  Apparently, there is a two code limit.    

I usually don't waste time with these kinds of promotions, but this one is legit. 

 

[Z-Saber]

To counter that, I submitted a receipt almost three weeks ago that was rejected for seemingly no reason. I resubmitted it but was told that I couldn't because it was duplicate submission. I contacted support and was told that they would accept it and send me the code. Two weeks later I still have nothing.

 

[braiiins]

Got cyberpunk day 1 but haven't played it yet. I got a good deal on it with GCU so don't mind waiting until my series x problems are patched or the enhancements are released.

I still have the copy of Battleborn I bought when server closures were announced at the beginning of the year. Can't decide if I should event check it out at this point, have too many games with winter events and would rather get the shadow of mordor achievements before those servers close.

Could just ignore all of them and wait to see what is on sale for the end of the year countdown sale whenever that happens.

 

[Donken]

Could just ignore all of them and wait to see what is on sale for the end of the year countdown sale whenever that happens.

Sale starts in about 8 hours.

 

[easper]

Sale starts in about 8 hours.

Was just coming in to ask if anyone knew whether the sale was starting today. I'll hold off until tomorrow in case they pop another rewards punchcard (maybe it will work this time), but I'm getting closer and closer to buying Immortals. Hoping it's on sale on XBL for $40-ish. I'd rather have it digitally than buy it on sale at Best Buy, and I have plenty of points to redeem for MS credit.

...Not that I need another game to play right now...

 

[WNYX585AM]

Man, people sure love to hate on bad releases. This reminds me of Anthem, when people were clamoring in here about how bad it was when they were just going off memes. Don't get me wrong, Anthem had all kinds of issues, but it wasn't unplayable. CP2077 is 100,000x better than Anthem at launch, yet here people are memeing it up about how it's the worst piece of software ever released. WB didn't apologize for Shadows of Mordor running like garbage on 360, and I sure as hell couldn't have gotten a refund after the hours I put in before I got frustrated with it (not that digital refunds were even a thing in them days).

Publically traded companies have to meet deadlines, regardless of performance issues. They couldn't keep postponing CP2077. They probably wanted to optimize it more for previous gen, but Covid restrictions limited what they could accomplish. Hopefully they can patch it and get the frame rate into a better place, but people comparing the textures on PS4 and high end PC might as well be comparing McD's to some $1000 burger with gold foil on it.

I played a good dozen hours on X1X last weekend and had a great time. I haven't had a chance to sit down with it post patch, or to switch it to quality mode, but both of those should address what minor issues I had. Games have bugs at launch, get over it. CP2077 is fantastic and I'm looking forward to putting more time in when I can.

I don't doubt that some people were very disappointed with the game, but the internet consistently shows us that people like to think in extremes (especially online). One of my biggest pet peeves is when people say something is "trash" when they clearly just mean they're disappointed in it. "These bluetooth headphones advertise 10 hours of play time, but they only last 5 for me. These are trash." Do you really believe all advertisements? If a product isn't exactly like you expect is it automatically garbage? Either people's expectations are just way too high for most things or they have an immature viewpoint on life. It's the same thing when a celebrity says something people don't like and everyone tries to burn them to the ground. Did you really think that person was perfect in the first place? Why would you be so disappointed in a human being? Do people really think every product should be perfect? I agree that there should be a standard and accountability (for people and products), but not to the extreme that many people think.