Angry Joe is definitely a scumbag. And Major Nelson had every right to put him in his place. But we did find out that it was fairly "simple" to turn off the DRM stuff...especially when it became a major selling point for the competition.
unlike sony ms has to deal with launch in u.s and u.k on the same day but again i trust microsoft when it comes to servers
Yeah Timbo is just ragging on Sony in an attempt to gain favor with Microsoft CAGs in a Microsoft thread, zero respect to this clown.
Yeah because all regions pull data down off the same servers.. genius.
im not ragging on sony at all we all seen the issues sony psn had for awhile on launch day. it's very possible starting tonight live has issues which im sure it will. But you would at least hope not seeing ms is making a big deal out of having 300 k servers.
all servers sooner or later bounce back to one main server GENIUS if you know how internet works you would understand that GENIUS
They will sell however many consoles are on the shelves tomorrow. If they produced and distribute 1 million then yes, they will sell a million. The word on the web is that they did not produce as many as Sony did (Could be kinect, could be manufacturing complications, ect ect.) so I would expect less then a million, but I am sure whatever they did make will be sold out.
i think the number sold the first week will be higher then people think seeing alot of heat has come off of ms. But launch does not show success for a system. The real test for both these things comes next holliday season in my opinion.
I continuously just get sent right back to the regular UPS site, I have tried this 10 or so times now. Not sure if it's a problem on their end of what, but it is damn near impossible to request for Will Call.
I actually hated what MS was doing at the time and was siding with Angry Joe, but I didn't think Larry did anything wrong either.
how do you know that? Sony sold more pre-orders than xbox one in a 4:1 ratio.
again pre orders don't = sales i really would love to see how many pre orders of ps4 became legit sales no way xbone only sells 200 k unites this weekhow do you know that? Sony sold more pre-orders than xbox one in a 4:1 ratio.
People were able to pre-order xbox one until few weeks ago, while the ps4 has been sold out for a while.
It think the demand for xbox is not as high as for the ps4, and I don't think they would sell as much as ps4 sold regardless of availability (at least based on the pre-orders).
I hope it does not do well so they cut down the price or remove the kinect from the bundle and I can buy it sooner
Kinect won't be removed. It shouldn't be. That's the only way it'll ever have a chance to flourish.how do you know that? Sony sold more pre-orders than xbox one in a 4:1 ratio.
People were able to pre-order xbox one until few weeks ago, while the ps4 has been sold out for a while.
It think the demand for xbox is not as high as for the ps4, and I don't think they would sell as much as ps4 sold regardless of availability (at least based on the pre-orders).
I hope it does not do well so they cut down the price or remove the kinect from the bundle and I can buy it sooner
amen bro. thats the reason i sold my preorder. i want the system to be succesful though. im a big halo fanremove the kinect from the bundle and I can buy it sooner
thats a joke right? ive been in clovis for a month and there are none anywhere close to here..
you will see ps4 on shelfs next friday im sure stores have them in back just not putting out till black friday.
That is the way I think as well. I am buying a xbox not matter what. The question is just when should I buy it (and that is based on games and price mainly).
I thought I read somewhere that MS Stores would have non-preorder stock at most locations, which would make sense.
I prefer that they limit buyers and maximize developers then.
This is a good example. NOBODY is going to develop for the PS4 Camera since they didn't pack it in, and you can bet the sales market for it will be REALLY tiny.
I hope it does not do well so they cut down the price or remove the kinect from the bundle and I can buy it sooner
This is where I disagree, it's been shown time and time again if it's an add-on or some sort of peripheral that isn't necessary it's not going to succeed.
As someone who spent several hours trying to login to PSN from my new PS4 on Day 1, it felt like more than a hiccup at the time.
I understand your point. If they really want to push the kinect, they should have eaten the cost of it and keep the same price of ps4. This is the price you have to pay to try to introduce something new to the market knowing that most of hardcore games do not agree with that mandatory accessory.
lol @ PS4 not being sold out. As far as stores holding stock, not so much, Best Buy are holding peoples PS4 in store pick up preorders until Saturday morning, but it is believed that the reason Sony released on November 15 is so they had 2 weeks to replenish some stock for Black Friday. There is however rumor that Walmart will be holding over some Xbox Ones for black Friday.
Other than grabbing the mic from his hand, getting in his face and telling him they can't flip a switch only to flip a switch 2 days later, yeah Larry did nothing wrong.
. At least in stock at my best buy
you don't understand thier thinking of xbox one if you did you would know high chance you never see a kinect less sku. It's very possible we see a package at like half the cost but with a sub you pay every month for live.
But why do both next-gen consoles have to cost the same? Do you remember the pricing difference between the 360 and the PS3 years ago?? Or even further back, the Xbox and PS2 or even the PS1 and the N64???I understand your point. If they really want to push the kinect, they should have eaten the cost of it and keep the same price of ps4. This is the price you have to pay to try to introduce something new to the market knowing that most of hardcore games do not agree with that mandatory accessory.
I am not sure how awesome the kinect can be, but not everyone would like to have it or play with it.
Microsoft wants to give us for free to try it? Great, bring it on. microsoft wants to charge me to see if they can make it happen??
Its not quite as easy as "flipping a switch". They built their vision for their console from the ground up for years, they have had to put thousands of man hours into the OS and how they wanted it to work. Then after bad communication and a bad E3 conference they had to immediately begin over hauling the OS at a system level to get it to work for the few but very vocal people on the internet who either didn't understand their vision or did and wasn't interested in it. This had to take thousand of more man hours to get functional and I could easily see 60+ hour work weeks for the development team behind that.
Sony sold 1 million units in 1 day in 2 regions. They are launching in 30 more regions next Friday and in these regions they are the dominant console with the exception of the UK plus sending more stock to the US and Canada. On the other hand Microsoft is only launching in 13 regions tomorrow. I think Microsoft will beat Sonys 1 million tomorrow with 1.5 to 2mil and they will likely boast about this number come Monday and how they beat Sony. But come next Friday I'd bet Sony sells another 1.5 to 2 million for a total launch of 2.5 to 3 mill. Definitely interesting to watch.
ps3 had blu ray player which back then most people did not even have hd tv's to use that
in the end does that matter to us at all? we don't see any of that money? I can't wait for tonight means both systems are out and hope including me and others we stop this stuff and just play great next gen games and be happy for what ever system we have.
