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I loved the Kyrandia and Gobliiins games! The 2nd and 3rd Kyrandia games were definitely better than the first... I remember thinking the boxes don't really show the nature of the game (like their humor) or something.

I think I'm going to hit Gamestop for Zack & Wiki with the 10% coupon. (That was my lame attempt to get back on topic.)
 
1 last complaint I have (aside from the analog stick control I posted earlier), I went in expecting a graphic adventure type game like Monkey Island, NOT set stages.

This really makes no difference to me now since it is great, but I wasn't expecting a set area like it is, I was expecting a story with wandering around. No biggie. Great game.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']The 2 Tex Murphy games I have played I always thought were pretty decent also:

Mean Streets (never played)
Martian Memorandum (great one)
Under a killing Moon (never played)
Pandora Directive (good)
Tex Murphy: Overseer (never heard of. got off wikipedia)[/quote]I think I've played them all. Wait, no, I never started Overseer, I think. But I did have 15-20 sealed copies of Overseer in my closet. That was long before I joined CAG, though, when I thought I was going to go into the game reseller business.

[quote name='Zen Davis']We should try to make an adventure game for Wii Ware.[/quote]Quick, where do I sign up?

[quote name='The Crotch']First of all, you guys can take your monkey wrenches, wind-and-grog-assisted spitting, and fat-man-book-replacing and shove it.[/quote]:lol: Hey, we're just giving you a hard time. To each their own. :D

[quote name='eugaet']Here's (what I think is) an obscure point/click adventure game...Touché. Anyone played that one?[/quote]Anyone?
 
[quote name='The Crotch']I'm sending Murray the Skull to come eat you.[/quote]Murray! I love Murray. I shall await his arrival. I think I still have his arm.

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[quote name='eugaet']You realize what you've done, right? Yeah, I'll have to replay all of them again now. And introduce my kids to the series...so when they're my (our?) age, they will be the only ones...

Ah, that cover art brings back memories. Westwood Studios, RIP.

EDIT: Here's (what I think is) an obscure point/click adventure game...Touché. Anyone played that one?[/quote]
Indeed, indeed. I'll have to replay them as well, and I actually have my DVDs of my half-assed attempt to collect ISOs of all Sierra oldies (ALL of them) which has both the floppy and the CD version of Goblins 3, because the CD version totally took away some awesome animations and replaced them with crappy ones.


Okay, here's a big one: RELENTLESS / Little Big Adventure and Little Big Adventure 2? Adeline Software's BEST... Not really "adventures" in a "puzzle" sense, but as far as proper adventuring all over the world, blew my mind.

Beavis & Butthead's Virtual Stupidity is extremely underrated - awesome adventure, though I really hated those guys when I played it. I'll try to find the website that lists compatibilities of old games.

Adventure Game for Wii Ware? We can make one for Windows at almost no cost... In fact, I'll pay for the engine licence and everything (Visionaire 2D would be easiest) if there are people interested in drawing me some bad ass backgrounds and doing png animations with transparecies.

Touche came out in 96, and I remember seeing SOMETHING about the game back in Russia. I came to the US in 96, so I never had the chance to play it, but it was hauntingly familiar sounding.


I love this thread, as well. Man, I hope to GOD Z&W outsells everyone so that puzzle-driven adventures will be like "the next FPS" in games... I kid, I kid...
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']Okay, here's a big one: RELENTLESS / Little Big Adventure and Little Big Adventure 2? Adeline Software's BEST... Not really "adventures" in a "puzzle" sense, but as far as proper adventuring all over the world, blew my mind.[/quote]Oh, hell yes. I've got both on my shelf, complete/mint. Bought the first on a whim after seeing it on the shelf many, many years ago. Awesome, awesome games.

Crotch, I just sent one of these in your general direction.

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[quote name='eugaet']
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[/quote]

RUN.

P.S. In the Temple of Bu, you can use these guys to trigger all the floor tiles, instead of going on those silly quests to get the statues.
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']Okay, here's a big one: RELENTLESS / Little Big Adventure and Little Big Adventure 2? Adeline Software's BEST... Not really "adventures" in a "puzzle" sense, but as far as proper adventuring all over the world, blew my mind.

[/quote]

I remember those. Wasn't it called something with Twinsen in the title (besides what you have listed)? I never got around to playing them but they did look good at the time.

There are so many damn good graphic adventure games. I remember when I was probably 7 or 8 playing a Laura Bow (I think that was her name) Sierra adventure when you were in a museum. It was an amazing game trying to figure out all the puzzles. The Wii seems like the perfect platform to bring these type of games back for relatively cheap.

If they can bring CSI, Broken Sword and Syberia to the XBOX, they can damn well bring more to the Wii and probably make more money.

As for the Wii being the perfect platform, where the hell are the RTS games. I can think of nothing easier than drawing a box with the wii remote to group people. Now Im off topic though! Back to the adventure games.

I think the Laura Bow game was called Dagger of Amon Ra, or something like that. (sadly I never even came close to finishing it)

Speaking of graphic adventures, why can I remember names of games I played when I was 7-10 but I can barely do long division or multiplication without a calculator?
 
Speaking of adventure games, does anyone remember the Hugo games? I remember one where you were in a hedge type maze and that's when I quit.

The only reason I remember those Hugo games is because I could play them on the grade school computers.

If anyone wants to shut up about old school adventure games, just post it and I'll stop :D
 
[quote name='schuerm26']
If anyone wants to shut up about old school adventure games, just post it and I'll stop :D[/quote]

It's cool. A little nostalgia never hurt anyone.
 
Just called 3 places:

1) Gamecrazy #1 (my favorite store) has 3 or 4 copies they got in today. But no preorder puzzles.

2) Other Gamecrazy (much less favorite due to asshat employees) has not gotten it in yet.

3) Gamestop SOLD OUT and did not have the puzzles at all either.

So, anyway, I don't want to spend any more time on this so I'm going to go snag a copy at GC #1. Oh well, no puzzle bonus, no biggie. At least I'm using up some of that load of GC credit I have ;). This game better be as good as you guys and all the reviewers are saying or there will be hell to pay!
 
I ran through the tutorial part last night, and yeah if you like puzzle games, this one will deliver. I'm not sure I'll feel as happy about the game once I start running into the "frustrating" puzzles, though. :)
 
Those are better reviews than I expected. It's good to see a third party make a quality game, let's hope it doesn't go unnoticed.
 
I gave in and took a hint at the first boss level. Glad I did, as it was pretty basic, but just told me I'm not yet in the right mindset... easy to forget some of the mechanics you have available to you to solve puzzles. In this case
I forgot I could flip stuff around, so I knew I had to use the umbrella to get down behind the boss, but I didn't think to flip it around and use the handle.

Back to a slightly easier difficulty in the first stage of the second area, got through that fairly easily after the built-in nudge. Some really creative shit going on in here, I want to meet the people who came up with this stuff.
 
looks like i might be picking this up tomorrow.
i kinda dont want to as i still havent finished twilight princess or super paper mario. its either this or i wait for mario galaxy.
 
The way this game makes you use the wiimote is fucking incredible. Like when you have to
rock the baby dragon
in the fire boss level.

Also I'm glad Capcom decided to go with platinum tickets. I haven't used a lot of them, but once you get deep into a puzzle it just breaks your will to have to go all the way back. Imagine if they had stuck with their first decision and not included them?
 
[quote name='Strell']fuck YOU THE FOLLOWING:

GAMESTOP #1
GAMESTOP #2
GAMESTOP #3
WALMART
TARGET
BEST BUY
CIRCUIT CITY

fuck ALL OF YOU.[/quote]

wal-mart.com
 
I don't want to goddamn wait any more. I've wanted this game since the SECOND I heard about it. I specifically waited for that stupid buffer period, since all the stores here are retarded and usually don't even STOCK shit until Thursday, and NONE of them have it.

God fucking dammit.

If it weren't for the fact that I get PW3 tomorrow, you would know me by the trail of dead puppies.
 
[quote name='Strell']I don't want to goddamn wait any more. I've wanted this game since the SECOND I heard about it. I specifically waited for that stupid buffer period, since all the stores here are retarded and usually don't even STOCK shit until Thursday, and NONE of them have it.

God fucking dammit.

If it weren't for the fact that I get PW3 tomorrow, you would know me by the trail of dead puppies.[/quote]

http://www.amazon.com/Zack-Wiki-Que...42?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1193363554&sr=8-1

Amazon has stock as well... those poor puppies. Did you pick any specific breed or was it all good?
 
[quote name='Scrubking']The way this game makes you use the wiimote is fucking incredible. Like when you have to
rock the baby dragon
in the fire boss level.

Also I'm glad Capcom decided to go with platinum tickets. I haven't used a lot of them, but once you get deep into a puzzle it just breaks your will to have to go all the way back. Imagine if they had stuck with their first decision and not included them?[/quote]Platinum tickets are used when you pick the "revive" option, I assume?
 
[quote name='botticus']Platinum tickets are used when you pick the "revive" option, I assume?[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I've used like four or five already.
 
I pre-ordered the day before it arrived @ my local Gamestop. No problems.

And I'm dreading having to use the revive, but I imagine I will go through quite a few of those. :p
 
While we're on the topic of adventure games, I thought I'd post my favorite FREEWARE PC adventures. These games were made by very small development teams for fun, not profit. But they are both excellent games, free of charge to download, and highly recommended.

Fate by Numbers - FMV futuristic detective game.
the white chamber - Anime-style horror adventure.
 
i finally beat the first group of levels. i did have to use one hint. and i am very glad to have the option. i needed it for
using the umbrella's handle to slide down the rope. i forgot that i could flip the umbrella.
.

most of my complaints about the game are dissappearing since i've been figuring things out. before it was just hard and challenging but not fun. now it's getting pretty fun.
 
[quote name='botticus']I gave in and took a hint at the first boss level.[/QUOTE]

ha, we both used the hint for the same thing.
i absolutely love that they did nothing to remind you that you could do that. i'm going to go to more of an effort to remember my abilities from now on.
 
For those of you having trouble finding it, both buy.com and familyvideo.com have it in stock, and GCO and the $5 off would work, if you feel like waiting. I am thinking about ordering this from buy.com just because I'll want it over the holidays, but not now, and have a feeling it will be impossible to find.
 
I'm still on the fence about this one. With all the other stuff hanging around unopened until I have time in December or so I wonder... :whistle2:/
 
[quote name='Strell']I don't want to goddamn wait any more. I've wanted this game since the SECOND I heard about it. I specifically waited for that stupid buffer period, since all the stores here are retarded and usually don't even STOCK shit until Thursday, and NONE of them have it.

God fucking dammit.

If it weren't for the fact that I get PW3 tomorrow, you would know me by the trail of dead puppies.[/QUOTE]

You got a Gamecrazy around there Strell? Mine actually had them up on the wall Thursday evening. At first he couldn't find them (after another guy told me on the phone they had 3 or 4) and I was right ready to get pissed. Then I saw them back on the regular game wall with all the other common Wii games. (The guy had gone into the back to look for it as, apparently, they usually keep new stuff back there).

Meanwhile the Gamestop 1/2 mile away had been sold out.
 
picked mine up at gamestop last night didnt have time to play it though. Thursdays are usually xbox live evenings with my buddies from back home.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Very well. But I'm going to send a meteor at you. It will be named "Attila". Try and stop it, and it will send you to another planet. Then your best friend will die. Then he'll come back to life. Somewhere along the way, you're going to have to assemble the skeleton of a turtle. It will all be very confusing.[/quote]Any further posts by you will require a Visa Code. The required Visa Code for your next post is: Section 4 (C 22).

CAG'EM II
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SECURITY SYSTEM

Warning! Any attempt to breach
forum security without the proper
security code will result in IMMEDIATE
and HUMILIATING INCARCERATION
without bail, trial, or exception.

You didn't lose your Security System codebook, did you? Looks like you'll be spending the remainder of your days in the Katmandu jail.

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Has anyone's Amazon order shipped yet? I pre-ordered October 1 and my order has not even been touched yet. I imagine they have a huge backlog of pre-orders since they are telling people to buy from Target online now, and that new Amazon orders could have a 4-6 week wait.
 
what the hell am I doing wrong?

Im fishing at that water slide level but the fish just jumps up and goes back to it's cave? I used the hint system but it tells me to fish. :bomb: I can't tell if Im doing something wrong fishing motion control wise or if Im doing something in the wrong order. I can't think of anything I should be doing before I fish though. Yes I have the worm on the hook.

Im not even far in and Im frustrated.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']what the hell am I doing wrong?

Im fishing at that water slide level but the fish just jumps up and goes back to it's cave? I used the hint system but it tells me to fish. :bomb: I can't tell if Im doing something wrong fishing motion control wise or if Im doing something in the wrong order. I can't think of anything I should be doing before I fish though. Yes I have the worm on the hook.

Im not even far in and Im frustrated.[/QUOTE]

You have to bring the fish's health ALL the way down. It takes more than one try to do that.
 
I talked to one of my best friends, who has been guilted by my shameless promotion of the video game into buying it. He's done with area 1, and we talked about the boss...


THERE ARE LEVELS CAPAPBLE OF ALTERNATE PATHS.

In other words, I've spent most of last night trying to discover new ways of beating the World 1 boss, apart from the two that we have discovered.
 
[quote name='io']You got a Gamecrazy around there Strell? Mine actually had them up on the wall Thursday evening. [/QUOTE]

Nope. :(
 
On the Icicle of Prosperity level, how do you
bring down the huge icicle? I beat the level by shoving the small icicle into the ice block surrounding the treasure chest, then beating away at it for five minutes or so with the batbrella. Really anticlimatical that way.

And as far as the first boss goes, how do you beat it the alternate way?
I beat it by sliding down the rope with the umbrella, then ringing the bell (I think that was it), then crashing down and grabbing the umbrella at the last second.
 
[quote name='utopianmachine']On the Icicle of Prosperity level, how do you
bring down the huge icicle? I beat the level by shoving the small icicle into the ice block surrounding the treasure chest, then beating away at it for five minutes or so with the batbrella. Really anticlimatical that way.

And as far as the first boss goes, how do you beat it the alternate way?
I beat it by sliding down the rope with the umbrella, then ringing the bell (I think that was it), then crashing down and grabbing the umbrella at the last second.
[/quote]
The first Question is rather elementary:

The Huge icicle needs to be blown up. You start by driling it (mole-drill), then using the small icicle into the drilled cone, then hitting it with a hammer. Use the FROG BOMB and place it right INSIDE the damn hole, and it'll ALMOST bring down the chandelier. Use the saw to finish the job - and get mad points.

FROG BOMB:
You get the frog with a Snake Grapple. However, you will notice that the frog jumps out of the way. Drop the snake grapple on the floor, and ring the bell to make it back into the snake, and watch the cutscene. If you need help with the mole drilla, or bull hammer, holla.

As for the second question, it's a hard one to answer.

Get saw, cut both rods off. Either anger the guy and/or go get the scale vase and throw it on the snake totem. Now, go inside and do the "make the water come down" puzzle. Cross to the right side of the stage. Ring your bell, and as soon as you hear the boss guy running, IMMEDIATELY go back into the cave. If you did it correctly, you'll see an animation of the boss guy being quite confused. Go up the stairs, ignore the chest for now, and come up super-close to the boss guy. Now, RING YOUR BELL AND DO NOT STOP UNTIL HE IS A TOTEM POLE. Then, just go on to the chest, and you're done!
 
[quote name='schuerm26']1 last complaint I have (aside from the analog stick control I posted earlier), I went in expecting a graphic adventure type game like Monkey Island, NOT set stages.

This really makes no difference to me now since it is great, but I wasn't expecting a set area like it is, I was expecting a story with wandering around. No biggie. Great game.[/quote]

This is why I was discouraging everyone from calling this a "point-and-click adventure." Because while that's KIND OF true, in that you're pointing and clicking and solving adventure type puzzles, you're not doing it in the service of a detailed narrative and using a collection of items across the entire game. It's basically a collection of scenarios in which you start from scratch in each and have to figure out how to get the best outcome before moving on to the next.

I don't want people going into this game expecting Grim Fandango or Monkey Island and being disappointed. This game is good for different reasons.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']The way this game makes you use the wiimote is fucking incredible. Like when you have to
rock the baby dragon
in the fire boss level. [/quote]

Seconded - that was the best use of Wiimote so far... Loved that boss battle big time. AND Boss 2. Boss 1 was allright, until I reliazed you can beat him DIFFERENTLY...

Z&W FTW.
 
[quote name='eugaet']Murray! I love Murray. I shall await his arrival. I think I still have his arm.

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[/quote]

Okay, how many people saw Barbaros' skull the first time and thought, "MURRAY!!!"
 
[quote name='Tybee']Okay, how many people saw Barbaros' skull the first time and thought, "MURRAY!!!"[/quote]
Blinged out Murray? Barbaros is gold and has a mustache. You're being a skullracist by implying that all cranial creatures are somehow the same. You should stop.


See you at the klan rally later...


EDIT: Heh, the Monkey Island Community is on top of this game, apparently:

Z&W|vs|WorldOfMI (YouTube)

Eh, some of these are a stretch.
 
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