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[quote name='FriskyTanuki']I have no clue what to do in the spider level of the volcano area. That 9 star level.[/QUOTE]

If you want help:
Climb up into the dragon scales. Go up and pull the switch down - the slab falls down. Pull the switch up - his arm goes down with the fang.

Slide down and go get the fang. Take it over to the little statue and "plug" it in. Now the statue starts periodically shooting fireballs. Aim it to knock over the two spiders on the ledge in front of you. Go over to them and turn them into rackets. Then turn the goon into a totem.

Pick up the totem and go past the statue to the "bottom" most ledge. There's this sort of...pair of rails there. Twist the goon so that he'll roll down it like Log (it's big, it's heavy, it's wood!). He'll knock out the two spiders below him and settle into a groove on a lower ledge.

Go back to the still-spitting-fireballs-statue and turn it ALL the way to the right, so it's toward the dragon scales. Go get one of the rackets from earlier and walk under the scales. You'll see a square on the ground. Think of this as a tennis court. Step in, and you'll see Zack holding the racket like a bat. When the statue shoots, swing. You need to time it such that you hit it at the spider that was nearest to you when you started the level. Eventually you'll knock him out.

Go over to him and turn him into a racket (just beacuse). Turn the goon into a totem.

Now, go back tot he slab/bridge you got waaaaaay at the beginning of the level. You can pick it up. Go put it on the same two rails you slide the first goon down. It'll make a see-saw.

Go get the goon totem you just made and roll him down the same way as the first (if you screw it up, another goon will appear near the starting point). He'll land on the see saw. Go get another racket. Now, move the fireball-shooting-statue all the way to the left - you'll see it starts to hit the big boulder.

Then go down to the see saw and jump on it - you'll catapult the goon to the left side. Stay on the right side of the see saw. Eventually, the boulder comes down, and it catapults you across. Pick up the goon you have, and stuff him in the platform that's gushing lava. You'll notice it makes the platform go higher.

Now, go up to the second court, and swing until you knock the treasure down.

Memory is a bit fuzzy at this point, but I think it falls onto the seesaw. You can then pick up the rock near the second boulder, thereby catapulting the treasure over to you.

Then you just ring the bell and get it. I might be wrong on this very last part, but you can probably figure it out then.

Edit: Split into three parts at suggestion by Botticamus. The middle one is probably the most telling, and would be the one that would allow you to finish everything in the level.
 
[quote name='Strell']If you want help:
Climb up into the dragon scales. Go up and pull the switch down - the slab falls down. Pull the switch up - his arm goes down with the fang.

Slide down and go get the fang. Take it over to the little statue and "plug" it in. Now the statue starts periodically shooting fireballs. Aim it to knock over the two spiders on the ledge in front of you. Go over to them and turn them into rackets. Then turn the goon into a totem.

Pick up the totem and go past the statue to the "bottom" most ledge. There's this sort of...pair of rails there. Twist the goon so that he'll roll down it like Log (it's big, it's heavy, it's wood!). He'll knock out the two spiders below him and settle into a groove on a lower ledge.

Go back to the still-spitting-fireballs-statue and turn it ALL the way to the right, so it's toward the dragon scales. Go get one of the rackets from earlier and walk under the scales. You'll see a square on the ground. Think of this as a tennis court. Step in, and you'll see Zack holding the racket like a bat. When the statue shoots, swing. You need to time it such that you hit it at the spider that was nearest to you when you started the level. Eventually you'll knock him out.

Go over to him and turn him into a racket (just beacuse). Turn the goon into a totem.

Now, go back tot he slab/bridge you got waaaaaay at the beginning of the level. You can pick it up. Go put it on the same two rails you slide the first goon down. It'll make a see-saw.

Go get the goon totem you just made and roll him down the same way as the first (if you screw it up, another goon will appear near the starting point). He'll land on the see saw. Go get another racket. Now, move the fireball-shooting-statue all the way to the left - you'll see it starts to hit the big boulder.

Then go down to the see saw and jump on it - you'll catapult the goon to the left side. Stay on the right side of the see saw. Eventually, the boulder comes down, and it catapults you across. Pick up the goon you have, and stuff him in the platform that's gushing lava. You'll notice it makes the platform go higher.

Now, go up to the second court, and swing until you knock the treasure down.

Memory is a bit fuzzy at this point, but I think it falls onto the seesaw. You can then pick up the rock near the second boulder, thereby catapulting the treasure over to you.

Then you just ring the bell and get it. I might be wrong on this very last part, but you can probably figure it out then.

Edit: Split into three parts at suggestion by Botticamus. The middle one is probably the most telling, and would be the one that would allow you to finish everything in the level.
[/quote]
Thanks for the help. I just missed that the lever goes up, too. It's always small stuff like that that makes a level seem impossible.
 
Skeleton Game Solution

I understand why you would be pissed on the Skeleton game. First of all, I didn't know what they were. The second one, I rang Wiki near the bones and found the person. Then, I went back to the "flute" level with the Goblin Flute shaped like Wiimote and did that one. I found out pretty much how you beat it after several tries of trying.

First of all, hold it like you're holding it regularly (pointed at screen). Now, it's pretty much like DDR. When the bell goes a little BEFORE the red arrow, juke the wiimote down hard. For example, picture yourself butchering meat and you have the knife in your hand. Then bring it back slowly. Once you learn how to do that you can ease up on your strength juking it down, but you DON'T shake it. That's a misinterpretation.

I hope that helps. :)
 
[quote name='The Crotch']There were two longs posts - Chronotrigga's, I think - detailing just what it is you're supposed to do.

EDIT: God damn he's quick.[/quote]

I have no life. I'm also listening to Modest Mouse - Dashboard, so I'm pretty adrenaline pumped.
 
So about the Skeleton game .. what are you supposed to do for the long notes??? Just hold it down or shake it???

I actually somehow beat the very first one. Where is the second skeleton guy at?
 
[quote name='lilboo']So about the Skeleton game .. what are you supposed to do for the long notes??? Just hold it down or shake it???[/QUOTE]

For the long notes just shake the remote constantly really fast.
 
[quote name='crystalklear64']It's more likely than you think![/quote]mmm, no. I saw no fewer than 15 copies today between Best Buy and Wal-Mart.
 
[quote name='daroga']mmm, no. I saw no fewer than 15 copies today between Best Buy and Wal-Mart.[/QUOTE]

I saw upwards of 20 at the closest TRU.

on an unrelated note: I'm going to finally start my copy . . . tomorrow :lol:
 
[quote name='daroga']mmm, no. I saw no fewer than 15 copies today between Best Buy and Wal-Mart.[/QUOTE]
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I'm going to have to chime in with "originally plagued by shortages due to the awful ignorance on the retailers' behalf, Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure is now pretty much guaranteed to be within your reach. Get your copy from any of the fine brick & mortar stores today - or if you hate America, taxes, and love UPS and shipping costs, you can always order your copy at one of the fine on-line retailers, which all support communism. Don't delay - prove to those Europeans that actually care about playing a puzzle-adventure game that you are better than them by playing this one before January 2008. Just like the principal used to say - "In America, it's just because we CAN."

And since the game isn't rare - get the fuck on the ball with the whole "word of mouth" business - we can make Zen's topic a reality.
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']Idea: until you have something meaningful to say...
shut. the. fuck. up.
This idea is free, but optional.
[/QUOTE]
Well, it was just sarcasm... ? I mean, I didn't mean to offend you in anyway. My most sincere apologies to yourself and Botticus.
 
[quote name='Friend of Sonic']Well, it was just sarcasm... ? I mean, I didn't mean to offend you in anyway. My most sincere apologies to yourself and Botticus.[/quote]

No, apologies would be all mine. I just thought that in light of all of the happiness in this thread, we could use more hate, and you did a good job starting that bit. Sorry, this is one of those "it makes sense in my head" but comes across as being completely shitty to someone else. Sorry, man, I really am - that was some dumb shit I typed up.
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']No, apologies would be all mine. I just thought that in light of all of the happiness in this thread, we could use more hate, and you did a good job starting that bit. Sorry, this is one of those "it makes sense in my head" but comes across as being completely shitty to someone else. Sorry, man, I really am - that was some dumb shit I typed up.[/QUOTE]
No, no, you were right. Even if my faux hate was in jest, we need to focus on the happiness in this thread because Zack and Wiki is a great game and a good sign for the future of third party support for the Wii!
Also, while I have your attention, is second part of your name referencing Stephen Colbert? I've always wondered, and kinda figured so, but I didn't want to make a fatheaded assumption.
 
[quote name='Friend of Sonic']No, no, you were right. Even if my faux hate was in jest, we need to focus on the happiness in this thread because Zack and Wiki is a great game and a good sign for the future of third party support for the Wii!
Also, while I have your attention, is second part of your name referencing Stephen Colbert? I've always wondered, and kinda figured so, but I didn't want to make a fatheaded assumption.[/quote]

Yeah, I joined around the same time that Colbert adressed Bush directly at the White House 2006 Correspondence Dinner. I recall a friend of mine was constantly showing me some dumb shit that was being said about the Wii on CAG...

I needed a user name that my mother-in-law wouldn't search for, since prior to her "stumbling" over my old blog I've always had the noble ideal of signging all the dumb shit I said online with my own name. However, that changed quite quickly when some of the things that I talked about and some language that I chose to use could indirectly upset my loved one (girlfriend - now wife), and give her more grief in life.

So, MarioColbert will do...
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']Yeah, I joined around the same time that Colbert adressed Bush directly at the White House 2006 Correspondence Dinner. I recall a friend of mine was constantly showing me some dumb shit that was being said about the Wii on CAG...

I needed a user name that my mother-in-law wouldn't search for, since prior to her "stumbling" over my old blog I've always had the noble ideal of signging all the dumb shit I said online with my own name. However, that changed quite quickly when some of the things that I talked about and some language that I chose to use could indirectly upset my loved one (girlfriend - now wife), and give her more grief in life.

So, MarioColbert will do...[/QUOTE]
Cool
 
Tomorrow, Toys'R'Us are going to give me a $25 Gift Card for purchasing a title that I knew I was going to have. It's popularity is massive, and it makes little sense that a large store would give people discounts on something they want. It's kind of like giving discounts for candy. This teaches kids that CANDY is what they should be eating, and poor broccoli, asperagus, and other great veggies are given the shaft.

Zack & Wiki is good for your soul in the same way that vegetables are good for your body. I'm not looking towards making sense here. You need to play this game and you need to understand its magic, despite the crazy-go-nuts "everything stops" syndrome of a Super Mario title being out there. Shit, if you haven't gotten it yet, it'll cost you $15 + tax if you get it at Toys'R'Us with the gift card - and that's a pretty good deal.

Golden Monkey.

Pirates.

Treasures.

Bunnies.

Snakes.

Ghosts!

Awesomness.


I'm serious - you'll beat Galaxy sooner or later. What the fuck are you going to play then? (Fire Emblem is good too).
 
So any of you fellows print out a paper Zack hat from their website?
I'm so tempted to cut it out, and wear it. I think I'll solve puzzles quicker.
 
[quote name='lilboo']
I'm so tempted to cut it out, and wear it. I think I'll solve puzzles quicker.[/quote]

Roflmfaoroflollawllollerskateskekecopter.
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']it'll cost you $15 + tax if you get it at Toys'R'Us with the gift card - and that's a pretty good deal.[/QUOTE]

That's my plan.

Although I'm buying it for my wife (big puzzle fan) but from reading a lot of posts this seems to be a really hard game. She's slowly getting into games, not a n00b but definitely not a hardcore gamer yet. Will she struggle to the point it's not fun or will she be able to get far and enjoy it?
 
[quote name='CombatCraig']That's my plan.

Although I'm buying it for my wife (big puzzle fan) but from reading a lot of posts this seems to be a really hard game. She's slowly getting into games, not a n00b but definitely not a hardcore gamer yet. Will she struggle to the point it's not fun or will she be able to get far and enjoy it?[/QUOTE]

There's a few levels that are kinda ridiculous..but once you figure it out you can't help but to laugh at the obvious.. :lol:
The more you struggle, the better it feels once you figured it out!

I actually only used 1 old lady and HAVEN'T checked any FAQs and I'm in world 5 now! I'm proud of me :applause:
 
Some of the hints are useless. I burned through two hints on the
baby dragon
level that told me things I already knew:

Hint #1:
"The dragon is holding the treasure chest!" No kidding. I can see that.
Hint #2:
"You can calm down the baby dragon by interacting with it!" Yes, and I've done that several times.

I ran out of money, so I had to solve it myself anyway.
 
[quote name='MisterHand']Some of the hints are useless. I burned through two hints on the
baby dragon
level that told me things I already knew:

Hint #1:
"The dragon is holding the treasure chest!" No kidding. I can see that.
Hint #2:
"You can calm down the baby dragon by interacting with it!" Yes, and I've done that several times.

I ran out of money, so I had to solve it myself anyway.[/quote]
Generally, the boss level hints do tend to be this way. After beating the Ice Level boss (on my own) I went back to see if the hints just give away mirror positions. I used three dolls without getting anything - the hints were like
"this is the cannon you need to shoot out of," "this thing focuses the light," and "you can pick up these here mirrors."

The only time I really needed the hints were in the last two levels of the game, and both times the hints were rather not-helpful, though more in the last level rather than in the penultimate one.


The Crotch:

CONGRATS! I'm really glad you've beaten it prior to Fire Emblem / Super Mario Galaxy taking up all of your gaming time. I agree with pretty much everything you've said.

In my opinion, the puzzles alone make the damn game. It's amazing how consistent they are in "making sense" despite the obvious "why don't I just do X with my FIST?" There were a few moments where I felt that the controls "betrayed" me (LAST LEVEL SPOILER:
Had to ask ScrubKing for the anchor tossing to work - was exceptionally embarrasing since I did it by accident at first, and then died while trying to shoot little guys into the Barbaros' Nipple Cannons
), but I was rather excited about the game overall.

I will give a critique to the "hidden treasures" bit in the game.

In order to get the hidden treasures, you need to get "hints" - little "riddles" which are called Ancient Lores. To get them, you need to
Find them with good old Treasure-Hunting bunny.
and that's a problem, unless you've been mad involved with this for the whole point of the game.

This is the only real gripe I have - once the Lore is obtained, its little "riddle" needs to be solved in a level. It's a bit harder than you might think, though the first few are extremely "obvious." The new treasures give you more treasure maps, and more exciting stuff to hunt down. Supposedly, there is an item that is an upgrade to
the treasure-hunter's ship, so he comes back immediately.
Once you get that, only money is an issue in your conquest to procure more Ancient Lore.

EDIT: Just to ensure you understand: solving those riddles is unspeakable fun for me, but I assume some would find it "boring."
 
[quote name='The Crotch']So, would you please explain just how the
anchor tossing bit
works? I got it going pretty good, but every time I tried to throw it, nothing would happen. I made more and more exaggerated tosses as time went on, tried different angles, etc. It was just dumb luck that got it. Also, is there ever any use for the worm straw? Is it used for a hidden treasure or something?[/quote]

Worm Straw - no use whatsoever. It is, simply, an item that you are likely to miss in your books.

Spoiler:
Swing the Wii Remote until you ride spinnaz you ride spinnaz, don't stop, and then POINT forward and hold it as if "pointing" at the target ahead.

I got all 50 of the "Ancient Lore" scrolls. Hells yeah.

I got Super Mario Galaxy, also, but I don't want to play it until my wife and I finish dinner, which is being cooked right now

I also got all but one secret treasure in world one, and a few of the Ice World.... Shit's fun. Love this game.
 
Picked it up at TRU today for $15 after the $25 SMG gift card...

Have yet to play it.

Honestly, I really have very little interest in the game, but just wanted to support third party games on the Wii. Should I sell it?
 
MAN this Part 1 of the last 2 levels is really taking my name!!
fuckin
Barbaros
raped me! he fuckin raped me with
Wiki

Damn!
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Where are you in the game, Strell? Or have you put it down to play some Grim Fandango?[/QUOTE]

Same place I was at the last time you asked me.

But since I'm royally pissed about the fucking SMG debacle currently going on, I have nothing else to really play, so a night of Z&W it is.
 
[quote name='Strell']Same place I was at the last time you asked me.

But since I'm royally pissed about the fucking SMG debacle currently going on, I have nothing else to really play, so a night of Z&W it is.[/quote]

What debacle are you speaking of, sir?
 
[quote name='lilboo']MAN this Part 1 of the last 2 levels is really taking my name!!
fuckin
Barbaros
raped me! he fuckin raped me with
Wiki

Damn![/quote]


Funniest thing I've read today. You know, if you don't want your shit spoiled, you can always make your own joke.

______ RAPED ME! HE fuckING RAPED ME WITH ______.


For example:
First blank: PEDRO.
Second blank: A BLENDER.


The best of all, is that once you DO view the spoilers, you get that your joke has been owned by your interpretation of what happened in the game.

On the bright side, liboo - this is the only way to get
Zack Totem
in your "enemy items" collection. Congrats - you gots it.
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']
On the bright side, liboo - this is the only way to get
Zack Totem
in your "enemy items" collection. Congrats - you gots it.[/QUOTE]

Oh really?! Since I died, I usually hit restart from beginning..Did it still save it? I'll have to check when I play later.
 
[quote name='lilboo']Oh really?! Since I died, I usually hit restart from beginning..Did it still save it? I'll have to check when I play later.[/quote]

Speaking of my anal-retentive love for collecting shit in games... How are you doing with your treasure hunting? Because it's all about treasure for 100% level completion. Just saying.
 
I just wanted to say thanks for all the info on this thread.

Went ahead and got this with my gift card from SMG and the wife loves it. She's only done the first stages in the Jungle - so hopefully the complexity of future levels won't ruin it for her, but for now she loves it (and so do I!)
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']Speaking of my anal-retentive love for collecting shit in games... How are you doing with your treasure hunting? Because it's all about treasure for 100% level completion. Just saying.[/QUOTE]


I just beat this game a little bit ago. Suuuuch a good game! :cry: The ending? :cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:

I haven't started the treasure hunting yet. I have a question. . um. How? Do you go to a level and you get hints? Not quite sure what to do. But then I turned it off after everything was over.
 
[quote name='lilboo']I just beat this game a little bit ago. Suuuuch a good game! :cry: The ending? :cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:

I haven't started the treasure hunting yet. I have a question. . um. How? Do you go to a level and you get hints? Not quite sure what to do. But then I turned it off after everything was over.[/quote]

Well, after you beat the game, your treasure hunter can find these things called Ancient Lore. He'll bring them back from his travels - just make sure to use the five-chest spot to get five of them at a time. Also, the area needs to be "mostly cleared" - just keep sending him to the same spot.

This is rather problematic, however, because if you haven't gone proper treasure hunting throughout the game (which I have, but I still needed quite a bit to catch up to the Lores), chances are you're missing a few other things.

Here's how I would play it:

Do you have the uber-fast boat yet? If you do, the rabbit should run off and come back with the treasure immediately (as in: without you having to go to a level and then come back). If that's the case, keep sending him to the 5-chest spot until he starts bringing back the Lore. After this, keep sending him until you have all the lore. If you don't have the fast boat... there are several methods.

If you wish not to cheat, you're going to have to send your guy in until you get the item mentioned in the spoiler - it's not exactly "easy" to do that, however...

If you are willing to cheat, but only partially, I'll give you all the Jungle Level Riddles (Ancient Lore entires) first - they should be more than enough to give you enough treasure maps and whatnot to obtain the item I need. After that, just save up a few grand (i.e. get the bird on The Time Guardian, or if you're a masochist, you can reply the penultimate level) and invest in nothing but treasure hunting.

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING SPOILER CONTAINS ANCIENT LORE ENTIRES THAT CAN ONLY BE USED BY THOSE THAT HAVE COMPLETED THE GAME ONCE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Jungle Ruins Riddles: (a.k.a. Ancient Lore)
01.
The sound of a flute reversed.
02.
Run laps around the parent with the child.
03.
A sky car awaits to travel to and fro above the monsters.
04.
Sliding and leaping into both water and vacuum.
05.
A big man waits to hear the sound and lose his limbs.
06.
Six snarling blocks of wood for the dinner pot.
07.
A lifeline does somersaults in the sky.
08.
A bold vandal leaves everything broken.
09.
From the sky a solution to anger shall fall.
10.
A large body blown apart by greed.
11.
The hand of a giant keeping a rolling stone's path straight.
12.
Five sacrifices to the water's delight.
Please let me know if things that I wrote make any sense at all. If something doesn't make sense, holla (PM or otherwise) and I'll explain it to you.

Last but not least - you can see how many "hidden" treasures there are in a level based on how many little gray icons are above the header in level selection menu. :)
 
Picked it up at BB this evening - $11 after 10% coupon and $25 gift card from Mario Galaxy. Looking forward to it - haven't played yet, but I opened it to take a quick look at the manual (and the bonus magnetic puzzle that was packaged with it).
 
I'm not sure why people are saying the game is rare. Every major retailer I've seen has had the game in stock. Best Buy even had three rows dedicated to the game. The only other game to have more than that was Super Mario Galaxy.
 
It might be that some stores aren't putting it up in the new release sections or in places where you think it should be put. Like I was just in eb and it was on the bottom row with the spine facing out instead of the new release section.

But yeah it has been at pretty much ever store I have been in. toys r us, target best buy, fred myers ect.
 
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