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#241 Purple Flames   MC Sucka DJ CAGiversary!   5769 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Purple Flames

Posted 01 September 2011 - 11:17 PM

I may be alone on this, but I legitimately hope Henry gets the title at the next PPV.

He's the top heel in the company right now. Go ahead and let that marinate for a bit.


I'm not fan of the guy's skills by any means, but they've done a really good job pushing him as a dominant monster heel, and I think it should pay off.

#242 Dick Tracy   The Man in the Yellow Hat CAGiversary!   38662 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 01 September 2011 - 11:39 PM

Wasn't he a smiling, lovable babyface just a couple months ago?

They do that with Big Show a lot.

I can't take either of them seriously if Creative insists on making their in-ring characters so bipolar.

#243 mykevermin   Queen of Scotland CAGiversary!   37011 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 02 September 2011 - 01:22 AM

Give it to him for three reasons:

1) Dude's career has been a two-decade shit sandwich that's he's eaten with zero complaints. Yeah, yeah, he's wealthy as a motherfucker, but if you put up with what he did, would you continue to work there long after your first contract ended?

2) He's loyal as Fuck. He's a company man. Not in a John Cena zero-integrity, I'll do whatever is good for business, no talent wrestling version of Nickelback prefab motherfucker way, but in that he does what he's told. He smiles and kisses the babies when he's told to, and he turns into giant angry black man when he's told to. He sires a hand when he's told to. So it's not just that his career has been one embarrassing moment after another, it's that he's done what was asked when asked to do it. I don't think you will ever hear a cross word from him towards the company when his career is done. You gotta reward that stuff. It's good for business.

3) Randy Orton is the champ right now. WWE's managed to accomplish being in both a full state of creative panic at the same time they're in the same holding pattern that they've been in for years now. Orton has the big gold belt. And yet they call WWE programming "first run."

#244 diddy310  

diddy310

Posted 02 September 2011 - 01:33 AM

TNA needed more Karen Jarrett on TV apparently.

EDIT: They actually mentioned Jeff's issues on TV (not specifically drugs) but brought up his legal troubles.

Edited by diddy310, 02 September 2011 - 02:05 AM.


#245 Scorch   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   37487 Posts   Joined 15.8 Years Ago  

Posted 02 September 2011 - 03:04 AM

Matt Hardy has announced his retirement. (Can we really call it retirement? Everyone else calls it unemployment)



#246 JaytheGamefan   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   4284 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

JaytheGamefan

Posted 02 September 2011 - 03:28 AM

Hogan's promo droned on for ages, and was only four minutes long until Angle came out...and talked about how smart Hogan is. Holy Fuck. Hogan said the network announced Flair-Sting four days after a PPV, so yeah, they definitely view TV as a bigger deal than PPV. Sting came out in sweet-looking black and blue gear - freshened his look up instantly, and cut a decent promo accepting Angle's challenge for a world title match. Not sure why though - they already announced the match before he came out. They showed some awesome crowd shots - and seeing TNA in an arena setting with passionate fans really did help them look like a big deal. An ad for the TNA CRUISE SPONSORED BY AN AUTO INSURANCE COMPANY aired, focusing on Velvet's ass in close-ups, so this ruled. LOLed at Taz casually bringing up that Crimson, THE POINTS LEADER IN THE SERIES, was out of it. They aired a good promo with three of the final BFG Series guys...and then cut it off and told you to watch the rest on their site. Fuck that - I'M WATCHING THE SHOW NOW, SHOW THE WHOLE THING NOW. Gunner's sig-level tron in triplicate didn't make him look any more major league. Joe came out to attack guys, Matt Morgan tried to stop him, didn't, but two generic dudes in suits did. Odd. Gunner and RVD had an okay match until Jerry Lynn came out to cost RVD a gajillion points again. Then RVD told him to leave and he did. Two bouts of interference, three counting Morgan, in an RVD-Gunner match. Jerry Lynn succeeded in costing RVD points by shoving him off the top into...a running knee strike from Gunner. Gunner's no Regal in making this look like a legit finish.

Tenay announced that the knockout law deal that no one cares about will be settled, which required the TNA sluts, bitches, and whores division to stand on the apron together like they're all buddy-buddy. Loved Eric announcing Karen as the KO Law leading to Karen coming out to a mix of Jeff's theme and Traci's Aurosmith knock-off. Karen was AWESOME here. Holy shit she cut a great promo. She declared herself as the QUEEN and was such a star. God, I loved this promo. They set up EVERYONE hating her because she views herself as better than them, so they've got some real legs with this angle if they do it right. Karen appeared after Hogan, Sting, Kurt, and Bischoff and cut a better promo than any of them. Kudos to her for that.

Mickie and Winter brawled during the break...and then they just moved on so Kendrick could come out to new porno music with a wacky mask with the Al Bundy lookalike. Then Tenay plugged a BEER PONG CHAMPIONSHIP show after Impact. Well, so much for them looking major league. I don't care who beats Kendrick, I just want him to not be champion, or in TNA anymore if he's just going to not give a shit. Kendrick almost became worth his paycheck just by saying "C'MON JESSE BABY!". They did the obligatory tower of doom spot to make it seem like this match was special. Aries taking a victory lap after a dive was glorious. Sorenson won to I guess give him a "big win", which would be good if he was over, or particularly memorable beyond the football gimmick. This had better be leading to Jesse-Kash at the PPV, since the show has like nothing on it and that could be pretty good.

Loved the Winter video recapping her from being a ghost to being a wacky lesbian who has lived throughout many lifetimes, in many forms (including a vibrator, I'd suppose)and is apparently now also a cannibal who wants to eat Mickie's rotting flesh. Then Mickie said she was tired of Winter's bullshit, so she'd WRESTLE her. This was amusing in a B-movie kinda way. Then they aired a video vaguely dealing with Jeff Hardy's issues hyping up his return next week via a terrible Tenay VO. Then Hogan told Angle that now they have to destroy the network...and then Tenay talked more about Jeff's return. This was sorta weird - good to hype it up than just give it away with no build, but every part of this just came out of nowhere with no real explanation. Hell, it wasn't until the Hogan deal that they ever even said that Jeff was out of Immortal. Mickie-Winter started, Tenay brought up how the first TNA show ever happened here...which really made the company look bad in a way because it's like "okay, NINE YEARS and where are you? Literally back where you started." Really fun match here. Loved Mickie falling like a tree for an enzuguri. Mickie's title win was treated like a big deal - especially by the guy they cut to a close-up of in a Sheamus shirt.

Morgan came out and yelled stuff far too quickly. Then he brawled with Joe despite apparently being too injured in the series to compete, but he grabbed the pec, so...I guess that's why it's okay for him to basically have a match without having one. Nah, it doesn't - he kicked Joe's ass a lot since Joe's supposed to be an ass kicker and yet he can't even beat up an injured guy. Loved Morgan throwing the ref aside casually, leading to another low blow and a chairshot to set up Joe-Morgan, I guess for the PPV. Loved Joe leaving because he did the damage he wanted to do and NOT because the refs told him to. Robbie E was AWESOME with EY backstage. Hilarious skit. Then Daniels and AJ had a homoerotic exchange. Immortal had a pow-how that Abyss wasn't invited to, so he was sad. Maybe he'll join Daniels in a stable of emos. Daniels came out looking like a dude, AJ came out with the rising tron and looked like a megastar - even without his usual pyro. AJ-Daniels was really good. Loved AJ busting out the bridging Muta-esque Indian Deathlock. Tenay's announcing shorthand bugged me here, especially "BREAKER ACROSS THE KNEE". He's cutting out ONE WORD, so it doesn't really shorten anything, and the word DESCRIBES THE BODY PART THE MOVE IS SUPPOSED TO HURT. Kind of an important word. This had a really good fast-paced finishing sequence that set up the finish well since everything was hit perfectly until the finish, where AJ slipped, giving Daniels the win via AJ's mistake, but the win nonetheless. I enjoyed this more than their PPV match.

The World title match felt like a big deal, and I'll give at least some credit for that to them using Angle's full theme intro, which has an epic sound to it, and JB doing an awesome job at announcing. For once, Taz saying a match had a big-time feel was true. Sting worked his ass off here - he took the triple Germans, and then had some real speed to him with everything he did, including hitting the death drop after countering the Angle slam. I enjoyed their PPV match, but this was better. Sting was better here than he's been at any point in the past few years. Then Gunner came down, got beaten up while Sting had Angle in the deathlock, which revealed "TNA" in goofy-looking Lite Brite text on the entrance area, then Angle tapped WITH THE REF IN THE RING. He could clearly hear this - he was just dealing with Gunner. Angle hit him with the Angle slam on the chair and then Immortal beat up Sting more until Anderson came back. Fuck. At least he didn't cut a promo. Could've done without all the bullshit at the end, but I still loved a lot of the in-ring stuff on this show.

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#247 cdubb1605   white trash renegade CAGiversary!   1144 Posts   Joined 12.7 Years Ago  

cdubb1605

Posted 02 September 2011 - 05:37 AM

watched Impact tonight cause a stomach bug (still) has me down for the count. Styles took a nasty spill, planned or not that looked painful as Fuck. Sting/Angle was about as predictable as your average John Cena match. Hogan just looks awful. Gotta admit I will probably watch next week just to see Hardy cut his promo.

#248 Mr. Beef   7777777 CAGiversary!   8098 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 02 September 2011 - 08:35 AM

I'm not fan of the guy's skills by any means, but they've done a really good job pushing him as a dominant monster heel, and I think it should pay off.


His only losses so far have been by DQ/count-out. He's probably the best-booked heel in recent memory. Just let him come out week after week, say something memorable (I CHARGE FOR AIR YOU KEEP YOUR BILL PAID, etc), and smash someone in the ring and/or onto a table. No need for flash, just let him dominate.

#249 advanced   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2944 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 02 September 2011 - 04:20 PM

Give it to him for three reasons:

1) Dude's career has been a two-decade shit sandwich that's he's eaten with zero complaints. Yeah, yeah, he's wealthy as a motherfucker, but if you put up with what he did, would you continue to work there long after your first contract ended?

2) He's loyal as Fuck. He's a company man. Not in a John Cena zero-integrity, I'll do whatever is good for business, no talent wrestling version of Nickelback prefab motherfucker way, but in that he does what he's told. He smiles and kisses the babies when he's told to, and he turns into giant angry black man when he's told to. He sires a hand when he's told to. So it's not just that his career has been one embarrassing moment after another, it's that he's done what was asked when asked to do it. I don't think you will ever hear a cross word from him towards the company when his career is done. You gotta reward that stuff. It's good for business.

3) Randy Orton is the champ right now. WWE's managed to accomplish being in both a full state of creative panic at the same time they're in the same holding pattern that they've been in for years now. Orton has the big gold belt. And yet they call WWE programming "first run."


Now that you mention those three points, I'd put the title on him until the Survivor Series. Why the Fuck not, right? Dude deserves that much, but he probably won't get it.

And Sting's new gear is Hogan's old gear circa 1997. Lightnin' pants.

Edited by advanced, 02 September 2011 - 04:30 PM.


#250 masked lemon   is high as a kite. CAGiversary!   1307 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

masked lemon

Posted 02 September 2011 - 04:40 PM

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#251 xilly   Snozberries?! CAGiversary!   1058 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

Posted 02 September 2011 - 07:14 PM

Holy shit, when did they re-hire Max Mini?

#252 Mr. Beef   7777777 CAGiversary!   8098 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 02 September 2011 - 08:51 PM

Jerry Lawler has been instructed to stop making fat jokes about Vickie, since she's been taking bikini photoshoots and stuff.

NSFW-ish:
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#253 MisterModest   Custom User Title CAGiversary!   704 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

MisterModest

Posted 02 September 2011 - 09:12 PM

Gross.

#254 Dr. Venkman   Body Piercer CAGiversary!   717 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

Dr. Venkman

Posted 03 September 2011 - 04:10 AM

Santino Marella was involved in an automobile accident which left him with a separated shoulder.

http://www.wwe.com/i...no-car-accident

From the look of those photos I'd say he's pretty lucky.

#255 pitfallharry219  

pitfallharry219

Posted 03 September 2011 - 04:13 AM

Jerry Lawler has been instructed to stop making fat jokes about Vickie, since she's been taking bikini photoshoots and stuff.

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I'd maybe hit it
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#256 OnyxPrimal   Chocolate Goodness CAGiversary!   2066 Posts   Joined 15.4 Years Ago  

Posted 03 September 2011 - 03:07 PM

Jerry Lawler has been instructed to stop making fat jokes about Vickie, since she's been taking bikini photoshoots and stuff.

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Good for her. It's got to be hard to have a decent self image surrounded by all these tone 20-30 somethings backstage with or without Lawler making his quips. She got in shape and is doing something to make her feel good about herself. I can't fault her for that.

#257 neocisco   Changnesiac CAGiversary!   19249 Posts   Joined 14.8 Years Ago  

Posted 04 September 2011 - 05:08 AM

43 years old with thighs like that? Good for you, Vickie.

#258 cdubb1605   white trash renegade CAGiversary!   1144 Posts   Joined 12.7 Years Ago  

cdubb1605

Posted 04 September 2011 - 07:52 AM

Yeah, good for her. I mean that unsarcastically too, seriously losing weight and getting in shape SUCKS. I've lost 45 pounds in 8 months and lowered my blood pressure (go me).

#259 Scorch   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   37487 Posts   Joined 15.8 Years Ago  

Posted 04 September 2011 - 02:01 PM

We just now got to 250 posts?!

This thread will never die, just like Matt Hardy.

#260 mogamer   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1273 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 04 September 2011 - 03:29 PM

43 years old with thighs like that? Good for you, Vickie.



Right, I guess you've never heard of airbrushing.

She's not a pig, but seriously, she's only 43? I honestly know at least a dozen women her age or older who look better than that. And yes, they've all had kids, and none of them have the hanging neck skin.

#261 mykevermin   Queen of Scotland CAGiversary!   37011 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 04 September 2011 - 03:43 PM

Attractive? Unattractive? Whatever.

She's not fat, and it's about bloody time that WWE recognizes that they should stop pushing heroin chic on their own overweight and undereducated audience.

I'm not against pointing it out (e.g., I loved Rick Rude's entrance mic work - "this is for all you fat, out-of-shape Chicago sweathogs, keep the noise down while I take my robe off and show you what a real man looks like. Hit my music!"), even in Vickie's case. But it's the repetitive nature of it - like the only ammunition WWE has for making her a heel is that she's "fat." It's bludgeoned into your skull by Lawler, which makes him sound like a elementary school child. "you're fat!" "yeah, so, well you're fat!" "fat ass!" "fatty fat fat!" "fatt hardy!" You're borderline elderly, yet he's the one who is shrill next to Guerrero.

But she could be power hungry, exploitative of her talent, etc. And become a manager of a solid stable, if they let her and let the character move in that direction. Which means giving her more credit than just calling her "fat."

#262 advanced   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2944 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 04 September 2011 - 04:20 PM

She's easily the best manager we've had in wrestling for a while. She's got heat too.

#263 Demolition Man   REV-OH-LU-TION! CAGiversary!   14856 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Demolition Man

Posted 04 September 2011 - 04:30 PM

She's easily the best manager we've had in wrestling for a while. She's got heat too.


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Truth Martini would like to challenge that.

#264 advanced   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2944 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 04 September 2011 - 04:39 PM

Truth Martini would like to challenge that.


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Zach Gowen would also like both legs. Sucks on how that works out, huh?

#265 Scorch   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   37487 Posts   Joined 15.8 Years Ago  

Posted 04 September 2011 - 06:19 PM

Recent video of Dave Batista.. @ 11:20 mark



#266 mykevermin   Queen of Scotland CAGiversary!   37011 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 04 September 2011 - 06:37 PM

Truth Martini isn't that impressive as a manager. Vickie Guerrero can turn entire crowds against her just by saying "excuse me." That takes talent.

#267 Demolition Man   REV-OH-LU-TION! CAGiversary!   14856 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Demolition Man

Posted 04 September 2011 - 07:01 PM

Truth Martini isn't that impressive as a manager. Vickie Guerrero can turn entire crowds against her just by saying "excuse me." That takes talent.


I didn't say he was better. I just said he'd like to challenge the claim that she's the best. ;)

#268 Mr. Beef   7777777 CAGiversary!   8098 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 04 September 2011 - 07:36 PM

I didn't say he was better. I just said he'd like to challenge the claim that she's the best. ;)


I'll challenge the claim too. Doesn't mean that me or Truth would win said challenge.

#269 Purple Flames   MC Sucka DJ CAGiversary!   5769 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Purple Flames

Posted 04 September 2011 - 09:38 PM

Guess who was an extra in a porno recently? (spoiler is safe for work):

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#270 neocisco   Changnesiac CAGiversary!   19249 Posts   Joined 14.8 Years Ago  

Posted 04 September 2011 - 09:54 PM

And he's wearing an NWA shirt. Heh.