[INMATEofARKHAM]

I was excited for Titanfall and then found out I can also get it on PC or 360, and then the other game that really had me hyped was Killer Instinct but it is free-to-play digital title and you have to buy each character after Jago.

Honestly, rather or not thats a good thing depends upon the price of the characters and the size of the roster...  Which, if I remember correctly was never huge in KI.  If they are only 2 dollars a character it would take 30 character to match the price of the typical figthter, 3 dollars 20 characters, $4 15 characters, $5 characters 12.  (And, honestly, how many characters do you really want to learn and use.)

 

The real problem will be if no one buys anything and everyone is stuck using the same character...

I'm listening to a new Gamesradar podcast right now, they are saying Ryse and Crimson Dragon are shit.

Listening to it now...  Not a site I normally go to so I thank you for it...

 

I do wonder if the problems they talk about in Ryse are because its still just a demo and/or is the diffcultiy just turned really down... (Just speaking in generalites here...  Not really trying to defend the game.  I just wonder if something more is going on.  Its a really odd/horrible design choice otherwise.)

[Erad30]

Ha, I thought my phone was having issues but apparently there's a bug with the podcast where it's cutting off after about 10 mins

[Loonknight]

 

I was excited for Titanfall and then found out I can also get it on PC or 360, and then the other game that really had me hyped was Killer Instinct but it is free-to-play digital title and you have to buy each character after Jago.

Honestly, rather or not thats a good thing depends upon the price of the characters and the size of the roster...  Which, if I remember correctly was never huge in KI.  If they are only 2 dollars a character it would take 30 character to match the price of the typical figthter, 3 dollars 20 characters, $4 15 characters, $5 characters 12.  (And, honestly, how many characters do you really want to learn and use.)

 

The real problem will be if no one buys anything and everyone is stuck using the same character...

If they include both KI and KI2 with all new characters for this version they may have a good size roster, but you are correct the rosters shouldn't be that large, and the issue will be too many Jagos.

 

My other real issue with KI is that it is being developed by Double Helix Games and not Rare seemingly. Which causes some concern considering they brought us such gems as Battleship and Green Lantern: Rise of the Manhunters. As long as they take their time, and are not rushed they might be able to pull it off, but I'll be waiting to at least Winter 2014 before I even venture an Xbox One purchase, and hopefully that game will be bundled with it as a downloadable full version of the game, not holding my breathe though.

[FloodyFloats]

I wonder what happens if you break your Kinect camera. is it going to be like the Wii U gamepad. I don't think many will break it but some will. I highly doubt they will sell them.

[AvengedBacklog]

It really is a shame that MS is so stuck on this asinine DRM/online check-in crap.  Games-wise I feel like both platforms showed some good stuff (And with PS4 you know the Uncharted, Infamous etc will be hitting in 2014 even if they werent announced yet), but I think its hard for any savvy gamer to choose MS when Sony's system is $100 cheaper and has much better DRM policies.  I'll miss Halo 5 though.

[seanr1221]

After primarily gaming on the Xbox since the first one Ill be moving to ps4. this anti consumer shit.
After primarily gaming on the Xbox since the first one Ill be moving to ps4. this anti consumer shit.

[Dark Lord Greg]

It really is a shame that MS is so stuck on this asinine DRM/online check-in crap.  Games-wise I feel like both platforms showed some good stuff (And with PS4 you know the Uncharted, Infamous etc will be hitting in 2014 even if they werent announced yet), but I think its hard for any savvy gamer to choose MS when Sony's system is $100 cheaper and has much better DRM policies.  I'll miss Halo 5 though.

 

well as a gamer its hard to give up the great exclusives over $100 and a DRM policy that won't even affect me 99% of the time (1% being the slight chance of a 1-2 hour internet outage but even then if console has checked in within last 24 hours it wont be a problem)

[benjamouth]

After primarily gaming on the Xbox since the first one Ill be moving to ps4. this anti consumer shit.

 

This, fare thee well Xbox, our time is done.

[Erad30]

 

It really is a shame that MS is so stuck on this asinine DRM/online check-in crap.  Games-wise I feel like both platforms showed some good stuff (And with PS4 you know the Uncharted, Infamous etc will be hitting in 2014 even if they werent announced yet), but I think its hard for any savvy gamer to choose MS when Sony's system is $100 cheaper and has much better DRM policies.  I'll miss Halo 5 though.

 

well as a gamer its hard to give up the great exclusives over $100 and a DRM policy that won't even affect me 99% of the time (1% being the slight chance of a 1-2 hour internet outage but even then if console has checked in within last 24 hours it wont be a problem)

 

 

See though with mandatory installs I really think another hard drive is virtually mandatory therefore adding more to the cost. 500gb will be eaten up very quickly by the next gen games.

[needler420]

Xbox one is going to flop so bad I wouldn't be surprised to see them go the SEGA route and this be their last console.

[WV Matsui]

I preordered both consoles through Amazon. I have 5 months to make my decision. No need to decide today. Still plenty of time for things to change and learn more about each console.

My takeaways from yesterday

X1
- Better Exclusives
- Better Entertainment Features

PS4
- Cheaper
- No Restrictions

Still a tough decision for me. Time will tell.

[INMATEofARKHAM]

 

 

It really is a shame that MS is so stuck on this asinine DRM/online check-in crap.  Games-wise I feel like both platforms showed some good stuff (And with PS4 you know the Uncharted, Infamous etc will be hitting in 2014 even if they werent announced yet), but I think its hard for any savvy gamer to choose MS when Sony's system is $100 cheaper and has much better DRM policies.  I'll miss Halo 5 though.

 

well as a gamer its hard to give up the great exclusives over $100 and a DRM policy that won't even affect me 99% of the time (1% being the slight chance of a 1-2 hour internet outage but even then if console has checked in within last 24 hours it wont be a problem)

 

 

See though with mandatory installs I really think another hard drive is virtually mandatory therefore adding more to the cost. 500gb will be eaten up very quickly by the next gen games.

 

You do realize you can uninstall stuff...?  500 GB isn't horribly small.  Just slightly on the small side.

[WV Matsui]

Xbox one is going to flop so bad I wouldn't be surprised to see them go the SEGA route and this be their last console.

Ignorant truly ignorant

It really is a shame that MS is so stuck on this asinine DRM/online check-in crap. Games-wise I feel like both platforms showed some good stuff (And with PS4 you know the Uncharted, Infamous etc will be hitting in 2014 even if they werent announced yet), but I think its hard for any savvy gamer to choose MS when Sony's system is $100 cheaper and has much better DRM policies. I'll miss Halo 5 though.

well as a gamer its hard to give up the great exclusives over $100 and a DRM policy that won't even affect me 99% of the time (1% being the slight chance of a 1-2 hour internet outage but even then if console has checked in within last 24 hours it wont be a problem)

See though with mandatory installs I really think another hard drive is virtually mandatory therefore adding more to the cost. 500gb will be eaten up very quickly by the next gen games.

You do realize you can uninstall stuff...? 500 GB isn't horribly small. Just slightly on the small side.

We don't know the size of the PS4 HDD yet either...

[Erad30]

Yeah but next gen titles are on 50gb blu-ray discs. Some of that 500gb will be taken up by the OS, probably a significant chunk. Add in some downloadable games (like say LocoCycle, which looks amazing) and some movies and you are CONSTANTLY having to uninstall stuff which seems ridiculous.

We don't know the size of the PS4 HDD yet either...

 

It's 500gb as well but guess what? I don't have to install anything.

[WV Matsui]

Yeah but next gen titles are on 50gb blu-ray discs. Some of that 500gb will be taken up by the OS, probably a significant chunk. Add in some downloadable games (like say LocoCycle, which looks amazing) and some movies and you are CONSTANTLY having to uninstall stuff which seems ridiculous.

I have this problem constantly with my 160 PS3.

PS3 Blu games run from 6gb to 26 FB (Last of Us).

[Erad30]

Only time I ever had a get a bigger HD for anything was I upgraded to a 60gb for my Xbox because after a few years my 20gb filled up. Never had to do it on anything else.

[lorne]

Sony: mic drop
Microsoft: gamertag drop

I read a user comment somewhere that questioned is ms gearing the network for 12 year olds? It sure seems like they are leaving the older single player who could give a shit about online gaming out to dry. A shame too as xbox's quality control has been the best.

I would advise parents and non parents to take a hard look at the hardware they are paying to have in their home that must have a camera & microphone, transmits radio and internet and has to be online. The beauty of Nintendo and Sony consoles has always been, toss it in a room with a tv and you've got something.

It is so ironic that Steve Jobs' 1984 commercial keeps popping up as windows was his vision originally. I wish people would seriously take their privacy back and it begins at home.

[Danimal]

This is all deja-vu from the last console generation transition for me.  I had a PS2, but did not own an original Xbox and had no interest in it, so I was Sony's customer to lose coming into this gen.  So what did they do?  Brought out a $600 console with the attitude "Hey, if you can't afford it, you", and I promptly became an Xbox 360 owner.  I eventually got a PS3 as well (birthday gift from my wife years later and hundreds of dollars cheaper), but for this generation, I've done about 90% of my gaming on the 360.  I'm Microsoft's customer to lose.

 

Looks like they've managed to lose me, too.

 

I have no plans to get either console on launch day at this point, but unless things change dramatically, the PS4 will be where my money will be spent next gen.

[KingBroly]

It's the third console curse.  It's amazing how consistent it's been.

[LordVila]

This is all deja-vu from the last console generation transition for me.  I had a PS2, but did not own an original Xbox and had no interest in it, so I was Sony's customer to lose coming into this gen.  So what did they do?  Brought out a $600 console with the attitude "Hey, if you can't afford it, you", and I promptly became an Xbox 360 owner.  I eventually got a PS3 as well (birthday gift from my wife years later and hundreds of dollars cheaper), but for this generation, I've done about 90% of my gaming on the 360.  I'm Microsoft's customer to lose.

 

Looks like they've managed to lose me, too.

 

I have no plans to get either console on launch day at this point, but unless things change dramatically, the PS4 will be where my money will be spent next gen.

I am in the exact same situation. 

[dmaul1114]

 

This is all deja-vu from the last console generation transition for me.  I had a PS2, but did not own an original Xbox and had no interest in it, so I was Sony's customer to lose coming into this gen.  So what did they do?  Brought out a $600 console with the attitude "Hey, if you can't afford it, you", and I promptly became an Xbox 360 owner.  I eventually got a PS3 as well (birthday gift from my wife years later and hundreds of dollars cheaper), but for this generation, I've done about 90% of my gaming on the 360.  I'm Microsoft's customer to lose.

 

Looks like they've managed to lose me, too.

 

I have no plans to get either console on launch day at this point, but unless things change dramatically, the PS4 will be where my money will be spent next gen.

I am in the exact same situation. 

 

 

Me too.

 

Was Nintendo only for 8 bit and 16 bit gens.  Then had N64 and PS1--mainly N64 early on, mainly PS1 second half of that gen.  PS2 was most played last gen, 360 this gen as no way I was buying a PS3 for a few years with the launch price and Sony's Attitude.  PS4 is preordered next gen, and doubt I'll get an Xbone unless they scrap their DRM stuff.  Even then I probably won't as I really don't game enough to justify multiple consoles.

[aptanor]

I'm not sure how anyone can justify buying the One at this point. You are figuratively bending over and let MS have their way with your rights and your wallet. And over what? Halo and Gears of War? I just can't understand supporting someone who is trouncing all over your rights as a consumer.

[Zeem]

I preordered both consoles through Amazon. I have 5 months to make my decision. No need to decide today. Still plenty of time for things to change and learn more about each console.

My takeaways from yesterday

X1
- Better Exclusives
- Better Entertainment Features

PS4
- Cheaper
- No Restrictions

Still a tough decision for me. Time will tell.

 

LOL Better Exclusives?

[Superstar]

 

I preordered both consoles through Amazon. I have 5 months to make my decision. No need to decide today. Still plenty of time for things to change and learn more about each console.

My takeaways from yesterday

X1
- Better Exclusives
- Better Entertainment Features

PS4
- Cheaper
- No Restrictions

Still a tough decision for me. Time will tell.

 

LOL Better Exclusives?

 

 

LOL someone has a different opinion than me? LOL!!! LOL!!

[Kevlar281]

Dead Rising was the game that made me finally upgrade to a 360. I'll be curious to see what next gen game entices me this time around.

 

 

Ugh, I'm so weak. 

 

[DestroVega]

Sony: mic drop
Microsoft: gamertag drop

I read a user comment somewhere that questioned is ms gearing the network for 12 year olds? It sure seems like they are leaving the older single player who could give a shit about online gaming out to dry. A shame too as xbox's quality control has been the best.

I would advise parents and non parents to take a hard look at the hardware they are paying to have in their home that must have a camera & microphone, transmits radio and internet and has to be online. The beauty of Nintendo and Sony consoles has always been, toss it in a room with a tv and you've got something.

It is so ironic that Steve Jobs' 1984 commercial keeps popping up as windows was his vision originally. I wish people would seriously take their privacy back and it begins at home.

You can turn it off. How many times does that need to be explained?

[INMATEofARKHAM]

Yeah but next gen titles are on 50gb blu-ray discs. Some of that 500gb will be taken up by the OS, probably a significant chunk. Add in some downloadable games (like say LocoCycle, which looks amazing) and some movies and you are CONSTANTLY having to uninstall stuff which seems ridiculous.

We don't know the size of the PS4 HDD yet either...

 

It's 500gb as well but guess what? I don't have to install anything.

 

That you know about...  There could be mandatory installs.  (Its not really a bad thing IMHO)

 

 

PS3 Blu games run from 6gb to 26 FB (Last of Us).

 

Games will get bigger no doubt about it... but I really don't see us filling up the whole 50 GB disc on 99% of games.

 

I really don't think will be looking at deleted games (from either system if the PS4 has requred installed) for quite sometime.... and when it does happen I suspect that it will be real easy to chose what to remove as its stuff just laying around untouched/unplayed on your system anyways.

[dmaul1114]

500 GB HD is more than enough space for me with mandatory installs or not.  Haven't came close to filling the 250GB hard on my 360 and I install everything.  I don't play a ton of games, and uninstall when I'm done and sell the disc.

 

Doesn't sound like Sony is doing Mandatory installs, but I'll install everything (assuming that's an option) to speed up load times.

[Zeem]

 

 

I preordered both consoles through Amazon. I have 5 months to make my decision. No need to decide today. Still plenty of time for things to change and learn more about each console.

My takeaways from yesterday

X1
- Better Exclusives
- Better Entertainment Features

PS4
- Cheaper
- No Restrictions

Still a tough decision for me. Time will tell.

 

LOL Better Exclusives?

 

 

LOL someone has a different opinion than me? LOL!!! LOL!!

 

 

You know what you are right a lot of people like Halo.

[itachiitachi]

 

 

I preordered both consoles through Amazon. I have 5 months to make my decision. No need to decide today. Still plenty of time for things to change and learn more about each console.

My takeaways from yesterday

X1
- Better Exclusives
- Better Entertainment Features

PS4
- Cheaper
- No Restrictions

Still a tough decision for me. Time will tell.

 

LOL Better Exclusives?

 

 

LOL someone has a different opinion than me? LOL!!! LOL!!

 

Is there a list of the 361 vs PS4 exclusives somewhere?