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#33061 Twilightsparkle  

Twilightsparkle

Posted 29 July 2022 - 11:14 AM

This seems like a disingenuous attempt at boosting their own sales like some other speculated, it's the first thought that came to mind. Suddenly backpedaling on all of this is shady af

What's worse is, this is on the heels of that whole reddit AMA thing to try to improve their image and now they're seemingly destroying what little goodwill that had earned them back.

I'll believe when I see it, but their history when it comes to stuff like this, the results speak for itself

It reminds me of Beanie Babies at the height of the craze with them ‘retiring’ their whole line just to bring it back.  They tried to manipulate demand by working off FOMO.  It caused an implosion instead.  
 

It really stinks of them trying to manipulate demand.  If that’s what they are doing and they get caught, there will be fallout.  

They really need some of of marketing person who makes official comments, not the owners posting on discord or Reddit or whatever.  Throwing partners under the bus is not professional. They should try and act in a more professional manner since they are such a ‘big’ video game distributor.  



#33062 BrandonJF   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   794 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 12:46 PM

It really stinks of them trying to manipulate demand.  If that’s what they are doing and they get caught, there will be fallout.  

 

I think it's a bit off for Best Buy to list product without a committment to buy (and I have a feeling we're talking about something like a PO exists and the invoice hasn't been paid), but some really seem to be trying to make this into a bigger deal than it could possibly be.  "Manipulate demand"?  In order to benefit whom?  Ebay sellers and Mom&Pop retailers?  There is no mechanism in place for LRG to sell any of these games Best Buy listed themselves directly right now.  And they've been selling Best Buy copies for many years.  They were aware the first time they put their "Best Buy may be selling" warning on their listing that some customers would be discouraged.  If they wanted to cut out Best Buy in order to keep customers direct, all they had to is not sell to Best Buy.  So, the conspiracy theory here is that Doug is throwing Best Buy "under the bus" (by saying they haven't committed to an order) in order to drive future traffic to other retailers who likely buy far less product than Best Buy?  

 

Since Best Buy listed them, is it highly unlikely they won't be finalizing that order and Doug knows it?  Yeah.   Would it have been more professional for Doug to stay off social media and just ask someone at Best Buy why they listed before committing to their order?  Yep.  But, a strategy to undermine the Best Buy deals they've continued for years in order to promote the value of direct orders?  That makes no sense.  They have nothing to gain.  If the Best Buy orders are for their surplus copies, they have to dump them on someone and won't be making as much as they would had they sold direct no matter what.

 

Doug's post wasn't necessarily appropriate, IMO, but I think this thread is one step away from insinuating Doug is going to jail for fraudulent posting.



#33063 Mattiful-Joe   Henshin A Go-Go Baby! CAGiversary!   3534 Posts   Joined 18.8 Years Ago  

Mattiful-Joe

Posted 29 July 2022 - 04:19 PM

I think it's a bit off for Best Buy to list product without a committment to buy (and I have a feeling we're talking about something like a PO exists and the invoice hasn't been paid), but some really seem to be trying to make this into a bigger deal than it could possibly be.  "Manipulate demand"?  In order to benefit whom?  Ebay sellers and Mom&Pop retailers?  There is no mechanism in place for LRG to sell any of these games Best Buy listed themselves directly right now.  And they've been selling Best Buy copies for many years.  They were aware the first time they put their "Best Buy may be selling" warning on their listing that some customers would be discouraged.  If they wanted to cut out Best Buy in order to keep customers direct, all they had to is not sell to Best Buy.  So, the conspiracy theory here is that Doug is throwing Best Buy "under the bus" (by saying they haven't committed to an order) in order to drive future traffic to other retailers who likely buy far less product than Best Buy?  

 

Since Best Buy listed them, is it highly unlikely they won't be finalizing that order and Doug knows it?  Yeah.   Would it have been more professional for Doug to stay off social media and just ask someone at Best Buy why they listed before committing to their order?  Yep.  But, a strategy to undermine the Best Buy deals they've continued for years in order to promote the value of direct orders?  That makes no sense.  They have nothing to gain.  If the Best Buy orders are for their surplus copies, they have to dump them on someone and won't be making as much as they would had they sold direct no matter what.

 

Doug's post wasn't necessarily appropriate, IMO, but I think this thread is one step away from insinuating Doug is going to jail for fraudulent posting.

I think you're forgetting the fact that LRG makes more money selling the game directly to you.  Sure, it's great that LRG uses distribution partners that pick up select titles for sale, but those deals definitely mean LRG shares the revenues (just like any other publisher). 

 

As such, LRG has a financial incentive to drive sales from their site as opposed to Best Buy (or any other retailer).  While it may be true that a sale is a sale, for greedy types (and let's face it, LRG is just as bad as some of the worst companies out there), it's about maximizing/squeezing every penny more than they can.  Direct sales off LRG's website does that.

 

Also keep in mind THIS is why LRG often has different covers as opposed to the retail version.  They're trying to entice you to buy it off their site.  They've also always had a note on product pages where Best Buy may be selling it, too, but are also happy to mention that Best Buy could opt out and decide not to sell it.  And lastly, I'm never much to care if I don't end up with a certain game.  I'm just past that point.  If I'm ordering something from LRG/want an LRG game, it's really just because I'd like to have a physical copy to play, but hardly anything I'm going to raise a fuss about if I happen to not get it.

 

Like I mentioned, I'll always choose to buy an LRG title from a retailer if given the choice.  Is there a risk I might not get it?  Sure.  But that's worth knowing that the retailer hasn't taken my money.  Also, it just cost less (since shipping costs is more reasonable) and I'm certain it'll be easier to get a refund in the event that something goes awry.

 

I don't want to sound like I'm hating on LRG - it's a business so I get it.  And there is nothing Doug is doing that is illegal here (that's silly).  What I was saying is that it's foolish to actually call out a business partner to direct some more sales to your website.  There are other ways to generate more demand for your version, but Doug's approach definitely fails Business 101. 

 

That all said,I think people (and particularly those in gaming) get way too wrapped up in being corporate fanboys rather than just treating these companies for what they are.  Companies are greedy, profit maximizing entities that will go as far as they can with marketing (you may call it lying, manipulating, whatever) to generate revenues and beat down the competition.

 

They just want your money.  There's no good will or love there, or "personalization" for you. 

 

It's a transaction for a good, plain and simple, and they want the most money they can get. 

 

It doesn't mean you can't call out stupid decisions, of course.  That's what we do here.  That's how bad businesses die, after all.



#33064 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4151 Posts   Joined 17.1 Years Ago  

Posted 29 July 2022 - 04:52 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb here and do the unthinkable...

 

They have a choice in telling people about the BB possible order.  Don't tell anyone and face the backlash when a title pops up at BB, tell them but warn them that the deal isn't final and deal with folks saying they are self-serving by warning folks, or tell them but don't warn them (and face the wrath if a deal falls through).   These deals seem to complete closer to shipping time so there's a chance (however small) that BB will back out.  Now given the choice I'd rather get a note about BB and the warning.  It covers their asses in the rare event BB backs out, but it informs me that I can wait for retail and just ignore LRG.

 

As for this deal with BB and certain games long past preorder that haven't had their deal close with BB, it's completely unprofessional of them to say anything about this to the public.  That said, it's good IMO to get a heads up about this in advance so that I know there's a chance the order could be cancelled (I'm not at all affected by this current situation, but I'd want to know on a game I was planning to get).

 

So, sure they want to drive traffic to their site and get people to buy from them... but I actually don't think it's nefarious or whatever to let folks know what's up on some of these deals.  Sure it's unprofessional but I'd rather be informed.



#33065 HaloGX   DCGX CAGiversary!   1329 Posts   Joined 17.0 Years Ago  

Posted 29 July 2022 - 07:03 PM

I don't know if they're trying to drive more people to buy directly from them rather than their retailers, but it does feel like they're throwing Best Buy under the bus.

 

Regardless, I think moreover it's just another instance of LRG doing something shady and/or communicating poorly, and people are tired of it in general.



#33066 SpraykwoN   the Chef CAGiversary!   4403 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

Posted 29 July 2022 - 10:51 PM

Gonna place one order from LRG and had a question.  They added this new Route tracking junk.  Is it really necessary?  If I opt out, is my package still covered in case something happens?



#33067 n64ra   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3237 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 29 July 2022 - 11:39 PM

Gonna place one order from LRG and had a question.  They added this new Route tracking junk.  Is it really necessary?  If I opt out, is my package still covered in case something happens?

Yes, remove it. Your order will be fine. If it's not, your CC company will be nicer to deal with anyway.



#33068 SpraykwoN   the Chef CAGiversary!   4403 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

Posted 03 August 2022 - 12:04 AM

Yes, remove it. Your order will be fine. If it's not, your CC company will be nicer to deal with anyway.

I did

Figured it was bullshit and not worth it lol
 



#33069 redrum666   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1826 Posts   Joined 16.6 Years Ago  

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#33072 nagpo  

Posted Yesterday, 04:58 PM

still waiting on Valis LRG. been more than 6 months. skeleton.jpg



#33073 ecwfan   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   598 Posts   Joined 19.0 Years Ago  

Posted Yesterday, 05:12 PM

still waiting on Valis LRG. been more than 6 months. skeleton.jpg

On Friday the LRG community manager said that standard editions of Valis are almost ready.



#33074 Bumslie   Have you ever seen the Boognish? CAGiversary!   5829 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

Posted Yesterday, 05:59 PM

On Friday the LRG community manager said that standard editions of Valis are almost ready.

So another 6 months?

#33075 BrandonJF   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   794 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

BrandonJF

Posted Yesterday, 06:53 PM

I think you're forgetting the fact that LRG makes more money selling the game directly to you.  Sure, it's great that LRG uses distribution partners that pick up select titles for sale, but those deals definitely mean LRG shares the revenues (just like any other publisher). 

 

 

We don't really know what LRG makes off of these games or how much the cost per unit may be lowered due to Best Buy's bulk orders.  The bottom line is Best Buy didn't put a gun to LRG's head and make them sell them games.  LRG did it because it benefits them.  This idea that LRG wants to undermine the Best Buy sales after getting into a relationship with Best Buy is a conspiracy theory that just doesn't make any sense.  All LRG had to do is not offer games to Best Buy and the outcome you think they are looking for is the only outcome that can exist.  

 

Oh, and there's the whole thing where LRG can't be driving sales to their site since they aren't offering these titles Best Buy threw up on their site for sale any longer.  LRG says Best Buy hasn't committed to buying Contra Anniversary Collection?  Ok, then I'm going to rush on over to LRG's site and just buy it from them inst.....oh, wait.  

 

As far as the Best Buy "warning" on the product pages go, of course they are looking to drive up direct orders during the pre-order window.  The Best Buy orders likely aren't changing based on the number of direct pre-orders through LRG, so they are just selling even more copies.  But, this "theory" that LRG is trying to undermine Best Buy sales after the pre-order period closes doesn't make any sense.  LRG very much wants Best Buy to commit to their order.  If people don't buy the games at Best Buy (and that's really the part that makes no sense to me - I find it hard to believe they do), Best Buy stops ordering.  LRG obviously doesn't want that or they would have never started this up in the first place.

 

 

 

Also keep in mind THIS is why LRG often has different covers as opposed to the retail version.  They're trying to entice you to buy it off their site. 

 

So, the "different cover" plan only works one way?  How does that entice people to buy the LRG version?  There is nothing "extra" in the LRG release.  It's just "different".  Whether or not someone thinks the LRG cover is better than the Best Buy cover is totally subjective.  There have been numerous occasions where I personally prefer the Best Buy cover art over the LRG cover art.  Sure, eventually you might be able to just buy the Best Buy cover directly from LRG, but I wouldn't say LRG having different cover art is an automatic "plus" for buying it direct.



#33076 SephirothWF   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1721 Posts   Joined 11.2 Years Ago  

SephirothWF

Posted Yesterday, 09:26 PM

still waiting on Valis LRG. been more than 6 months. skeleton.jpg


6 months is nothing.

My copy of Dusk just shipped. I preordered last Sept.

Ask anyone who preordered the Scott Pilgrim Vinyl how long they have been waiting for.

#33077 Volitar Prime   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   262 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Volitar Prime

Posted Yesterday, 11:07 PM

Hopefully they'll at least ship out this first Valis collection before they start pre-orders for the second one.