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#151 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   23355 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2017 - 05:53 AM

Those controller prices are just nuts, especially the joy-con prices. 

 

I was happy to see Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (not a sequel to XCX) but after watching the trailer, it just looks like XCX with even stronger anime overtones. 

 

Mario Odyssey's trailer's first 30 seconds or so looked dumb as Fuck but it looks damn fun... 



#152 The Green Giant   Leader of the Veggies CAGiversary!   9405 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

The Green Giant

Posted 13 January 2017 - 05:57 AM

You can't bundle the system with games, the system must not have any games.

I still can't get over the insane, completely batshit crazy price. I'm a LEGO fan and complain all the time about the company fucking over their fans. I think we have a new winner for that. 

Are there games? The thing launches in less than two months and there is Zelda and that's it? Wow! Nice job Nintendo. I don't get why Mario Kart 8 Deluxe can't come out for launch too. You are trying to prove yourself, do it with Mario Kart! They couldn't start the port of the game two months sooner? It's a port. I don't get it.

But everything else aside, it was a mess of a presentation. After that wonderful teaser this was a let down. There should have been more info, more showing off the launch titles and launch window games, even if they are ports. There is no talk of anything. It was a waste of time that showed off next to nothing besides the creepy tiny Mario in NYC thing.

Quick Google search and Nintendo's stock is 200 yen away from a yearly low. Been hovering at 5.75% drop. That's a horrible sign for a company that just showed off it's future to the world.



#153 KillerRamen   OMG Lilac PSP! CAGiversary!   3649 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2017 - 06:07 AM

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NISA appears to have leaked the box design. Hopefully Nintendo of America is a little clearer about the launch titles and stuff. With that said, I pre-ordered the Neon NS at Best Buy.



#154 David Hibiki   You must be tired... CAGiversary!   11666 Posts   Joined 17.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 06:23 AM

What a god awful launch lineup if true.

At least this is what I saw floating around:

- 1, 2 Switch
- The Legend of Zelda: BotW
- Just Dance 2017
- Has Been Heroes
- Snipperclips
- Super Bomberman R
- Disgaea 5 Complete
- Puyo Puyo Tetris
- Rayman Legends
- Steep
- Skylanders: Imaginators
- I Am Setsuna

I'm ok with the $300 price but I think $250 is the real sweet spot for anyone to impulse buy the system.

The accessories are laughably overpriced.

 

I hope I'm out of touch and this sells well with the masses like the Wii did, but things are not looking good right now imho. I am not seeing much positive on the net right now at all.

 

The best news out of the conference for me was confirmation of Zelda releasing on both the Wii U and Switch on March 3rd. The trailer was god damn amazing.

 

Was also shocked to see No More Heroes getting a sequel considering that was my favorite game on the Wii.

 

Overall conference was just putting me to sleep. Very disappointed with the presentation, even more disappointed with possibly the worst launch lineup of all time for a home console. Even the XBox One had a better launch lineup.



#155 The Green Giant   Leader of the Veggies CAGiversary!   9405 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 06:37 AM

Nintendo can't even bring another port to the table? The system should have been $250, more so BECAUSE of the price of the controllers. Or $300 for a second controller and another older port like moving Mario Mart up 7 weeks or porting Smash Brothers. This isn't the time to be holding back after the biggest home console disaster ever in the Wii U (and yes I'm including the Dreamcast because I think even if sold better it it's time than the Wii U.).
 

The wiggle controllers made me, a Nintendo fanboy until the end, slightly wish that Nintendo would go third party. And that hurts.



#156 Rig   Rig = Lunar CAGiversary!   14170 Posts   Joined 16.1 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2017 - 02:19 PM

As a Nintendo fanboy (at heart), I was extremely let down.

 

$300:  I actually figured that was the price.  I wanted $250, but deep down, I thought it would be $300. 

 

My non-gaming wife watched with me last night.  She (and I) both agreed that 1, 2, Switch and Arms look pretty crappy.  They look like pack-in games, not full retail. 

 

I got very, very hyped for Splatoon 2.  I went S+ on the original and played the hell out of it.  I *have* to get a Switch for it now, but definitely not anytime soon since Splatoon 2 is "summer 2017".

 

I agree with Vinny:  I thought the NYC-esque Mario portions looked awful.  Once he got out of the city looking area, it looked great.

 

Looking like a bad launch.  Launching with Zelda, which also is on the Wii U....and that's it?  Not good.



#157 The Green Giant   Leader of the Veggies CAGiversary!   9405 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 02:58 PM

 

 

I agree with Vinny:  I thought the NYC-esque Mario portions looked awful.  Once he got out of the city looking area, it looked great.

 

 

Mario shouldn't take place in our world, he's very colorful and cartoony. The one way it would have worked is if they made the NYC landscape photo realistic, but they never do that.



#158 soliddragon   Early Adopter CAGiversary!   1107 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 03:21 PM

Not trying to dump on em too hard, but I'm in agreement with the general sentiment. I dunno man, for a system, whose big 'hook' is being able to be portable, that 3hour battery life on Zelda is a MAJOR letdown! With my experience with the OG 3ds and my Wii U gamepad, I can tell you, that short battery life is just insulting. 

 

*sigh*



#159 RKasa   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4371 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2017 - 06:01 PM

NISA appears to have leaked the box design. Hopefully Nintendo of America is a little clearer about the launch titles and stuff. With that said, I pre-ordered the Neon NS at Best Buy.

That looks great. I'm a bit behind on my Disgaeas, but will definitely be picking that up. (Also, how does a game publisher "leak" their own box art? XD)

Also, if I Am Setsuna somehow gets a physical release on Switch, I'll likely go that route instead of buying it on Steam.

 

Oh, and I'm very, very happy that we're getting a region-free Nintendo system for the first time since the DS Lite.

Right now, the only real annoyance is having to buy Puyo Puyo Tetris again and the accessory prices, especially the Pro controller and extra JoyCons. Other than that, I'm more than happy to wait out the launch shortages and get a Switch later in the year (the sweet spot would be when Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is out, but who knows what supply will be like then :razz:).



#160 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5725 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2017 - 07:04 PM

Like Rig, I was expecting $300 but hoping for $250. Granted I'll probably not buy it for a while as there's not enough to get me to buy it early. I'm also disappointed by the 32GB storage. While I know M.2 is still a little pricey, it would be nice to see those start being used more commonly in things like handhelds, but it's technology Nintendo would only start adapting to 10-15 years from now. If you don't know what an M.2 SSD looks like, it's this: http://www.newegg.co...=9SIA9TS3JP7261

 

As for the games, the first part of the Mario gameplay video looked pretty dumb but I'm sure the game itself will be fine. SMT, Fire Emblem Warriors (Musou I assume) and Xenoblade 2 at some point for me probably. Not a whole lot more I'm currently interested in. I would've tried Splatoon 2 multiplayer maybe, but Nintendo pulled a Nintendo. Zelda will really depend on how the Wii U version is and if they plan to add some bullshit forced controls on either version but not the other.

 

Basically the things I just can't understand is... WHY IS THERE NO ETHERNET PORT BUILT IN TO THE DOCK? WHY ARE THEY CHARGING FOR MULTIPLAYER WHEN THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE HAS ALWAYS BEEN COMPLETE ASS? WHY DID THEY PUT VOICE CHAT THROUGH A SMART PHONE APP? What the Fuck Nintendo. You manage to blow my mind every generation in the worst ways possible. I shouldn't even be surprised at this point, but somehow they just blow past any negative expectations I can come up with.

 

EDIT: I feel like I should also add their "free" monthly games are just rentals, rather than ownership so long as you're subbed to the service like PSN and XBL is. Dear god Nintendo, I really hope someone slaps the shit out of you so you can wake up from the delusion you're living in.



#161 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   23355 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2017 - 09:32 PM

I've been pretty critical of Nintendo's direction with the Switch and after seeing everything, I'm fairly confident this'll be a re-peat of the Wii U and that's not something they can afford. 

 

The new Mario looks fun and Zelda looks great but I'm just not sold on the system or the concept. 



#162 chubbyninja1319   Where's my stuff!? CAGiversary!   5437 Posts   Joined 16.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 01:45 AM

I can't argue with any of the negative points I've read here and elsewhere.  But I'm just giving into my natural tendencies:

 

  • I love games
  • I'm a sucker for new consoles
  • I grew up with Nintendo and it's penetrated my inner being despite a few differences of opinion (Wii, Mario Galaxy, etc.)
  • Zelda looks shit hot
  • Mario Odyssey looks like a return to form
  • I'm a sucker for Mario Kart

 

System sold.  I might play it off as a birthday gift for my son, but I'm not fooling anyone.  I want this. 



#163 RedvsBlue  

RedvsBlue

Posted 14 January 2017 - 02:54 AM

I'm really starting to feel like the portable multi-player with physical controls is going to end up being the dark horse selling feature of this console.

Personally, I'm excited to just be able to pop out the stand and pop the joy cons off to play some Puyo Puyo Tetris or something else on a plane with my wife.

#164 Richard Kain   The Kaiser CAGiversary!   2826 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 04:55 PM

I'm really starting to feel like the portable multi-player with physical controls is going to end up being the dark horse selling feature of this console.

Local multiplayer is inherently fun. Playing with people who are nearby is just a good time, and always has been. The problem in recent years with that type of game is that it is increasingly harder to get people together to play. This is especially true when you have to get them together in a single location. Convincing two or three of my friends to come to my house for a fun evening is difficult no matter what we were planning on doing.

 

The real potential of the Switch is that it allows you to take that type of experience with you in a way that almost no other system has. You can carry it along and play games like Towerfall or Nidhogg with other people while you're out and about. It makes it much more convenient to share that local multiplayer experience. The word-of-mouth and hands on play that go along with this will be the best advertisements for the Switch.



#165 whoknows   Time and Eternity for all of time and eternity CAGiversary!   40113 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted 14 January 2017 - 05:03 PM

Has there been word on if the virtual console or other eshop games will be there at launch?



#166 RKasa   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4371 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 14 January 2017 - 07:42 PM

Local multiplayer is inherently fun. Playing with people who are nearby is just a good time, and always has been. The problem in recent years with that type of game is that it is increasingly harder to get people together to play. This is especially true when you have to get them together in a single location. Convincing two or three of my friends to come to my house for a fun evening is difficult no matter what we were planning on doing.

I think this is just called "getting old". Grouping up with friends offline nowadays is difficult for me, too, but the Switch could be for other people like what the N64 was for me back when I was in college, maybe even better.

Man, we're all old, aren't we?
 

Has there been word on if the virtual console or other eshop games will be there at launch?

Not really. One of the announced games for March is Has-Been Heroes by Frozenbyte (the Trine developers), so that seems to imply an eShop with downloadable indie games if not at launch, then very soon afterward. Also, the paid online service will include access to a Virtual Console game each month (and only that month), so VC seems likely to be present around launch as well.

#167 KillerRamen   OMG Lilac PSP! CAGiversary!   3649 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 14 January 2017 - 09:25 PM

I'm really starting to feel like the portable multi-player with physical controls is going to end up being the dark horse selling feature of this console.

Personally, I'm excited to just be able to pop out the stand and pop the joy cons off to play some Puyo Puyo Tetris or something else on a plane with my wife.

 

I agree. I think it will be really nice for parents with two kids. They both can play the game on the same system when they're on the go and since it comes built in with two controllers there's nothing else that they need to buy. It's also nice if they're on a trip with a friend since they'll both be able to play the game without needing two systems and two copies of the game.

 

I do like that they're selling the dock separately so you can play with your console at multiple locations without the need for multiple consoles. That would be really nice for kids where parents have joint custody or adults that want to play on the TV in their computer room while the kids are watching TV.  

 

I also wouldn't be surprised if they sell the Switch without the dock for $250 or less by Christmas or early next year. 

 

I love getting a new system and while launches always kind of suck since there are always very few games, I think Nintendo has it spread out enough for the first few months until we get more information about the holiday line-up at E3.

 

The MSRP on the Pro Controller kind of sucks, but I don't pay MSRP for controllers. Who knows, maybe I'll end up liking the Grip thing until the price lowers on Amazon. Like the PS4 controller MSRP is $59.99-64.99 or $99.99 for a pair of Move controllers and there's no way I'd pay that. The Xbox One's controllers MSRP range from $59.99-69.99 for standard, $79.99 for custom and $149.99-199.99 for Pro. (On the other hand, I do suspect the Nintendo USB-C power adapter will become very popular for MacBook users as an alternative to Apple's $70 replacement)

 

Give it a few months and the sale price on the Pro Controller will be sub-$50 and hopefully in more colors. 



#168 UndyingForce   The Host with the Most CAGiversary!   503 Posts   Joined 16.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 02:14 AM

I have one preordered but am disappointed with the launch line up. We knew about Zelda already. Will need to wait 2 months to play something I want (Mario Kart 8)



#169 The Green Giant   Leader of the Veggies CAGiversary!   9405 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 02:31 AM

So what I have learned is that no one actually has real friends anymore, everything is just online friendships...

Now the Switch has made me depressed for society. Damn you Nintendo! 



#170 RKasa   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4371 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 15 January 2017 - 06:06 PM

So what I have learned is that no one actually has real friends anymore, everything is just online friendships...

Now the Switch has made me depressed for society. Damn you Nintendo!

Hey, there's nothing fake about online friends. My husband started out as one of them!

:grouphug:



#171 The Green Giant   Leader of the Veggies CAGiversary!   9405 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 10:05 PM

Hey, there's nothing fake about online friends. My husband started out as one of them!

:grouphug:

 

I didn't say there was, but everyone here seems to only have online friends and real life friends are a thing of the past.



#172 Archaic   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   547 Posts   Joined 16.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 January 2017 - 11:08 PM

So, I'm late to the party, but I just caught up on the Switch release news and the subsequent reactions
 
Wow.
 
I can't believe the lengths some people will go to in order to delude themselves that this launch is acceptable, or that this console will be successful.
 
32 gigs of built-in storage, a lack of ethernet, a paid online system completely lacking in universal friends systems/free game offers, and remakes of games that already sold poorly on other systems (Disgaea, Rayman Legends) or failed to sell WiiUs (Splatoon, Mario Kart 8).
 
This launch would have been unsatisfying midway through the 360/PS3 days. That Nintendo would have the futzpah to try it now, after failing so utterly with the WiiU, is evidence that they will NEVER "get it". There's no humility, no willingness to learn from mistakes, and no sense that they have to earn us as consumers.
 
One of the reasons the PS4's launch was so much more successful than the PS3's was because they built up goodwill...they showed themselves to be a better value. Similarly, even Microsoft showed some understanding of this (too late) when they introduced backwards compatibility, released 4 "free" games a month, and dropped the price of the system. No one can say that these companies have failed to entice consumers with value.
 
By contrast, the Switch in no way seems like a good value.
 
The device fails as a console, because it can't stack up to the competition in terms of game catalog, power, features, or cost. It fails as a portable, because it's battery life is total shit (also: how could they be SO obtuse as to not have a Pokemon game ready at launch...or in 2017, for that matter?).
 
In short, Nintendo has learned nothing. The absolute best thing you could say about it is that, because it's just an overpriced combination of concepts and games that we've already seen, you will no immediately if it appeals to you. Sadly, that will be a very small population indeed.


#173 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5725 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

Posted 15 January 2017 - 11:33 PM

I didn't say there was, but everyone here seems to only have online friends and real life friends are a thing of the past.

 

Getting old sucks, like blue said. Real life friends have lives, wives and kids now or they just flat out moved out of town. Plus travel distance to and from if you're relatively local. Just far easier to get an hour session together online than it is to have them drive 15-30 minutes one way for however long they're able to commit to. If I live to 60-70, I'm sure that could change but then you've got old people problems to deal with.

 

Can't win either way. Oh and my friend I used to game in real life a ton moved to Japan. So, yeah, that shit doesn't happen anymore except maybe once every 3 years. I suppose it doesn't help that I'm not the most outgoing person and I'm allergic to virtually every animal in existence which really limits my options.

 

You can just ignore me though, sometimes it feels a little therapeutic to complain about life's problems.



#174 The Green Giant   Leader of the Veggies CAGiversary!   9405 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 11:37 PM

Getting old sucks, like blue said. Real life friends have lives, wives and kids now or they just flat out moved out of town. Plus travel distance to and from if you're relatively local. Just far easier to get an hour session together online than it is to have them drive 15-30 minutes one way for however long they're able to commit to. If I live to 60-70, I'm sure that could change but then you've got old people problems to deal with.

 

Can't win either way. Oh and my friend I used to game in real life a ton moved to Japan. So, yeah, that shit doesn't happen anymore except maybe once every 3 years. I suppose it doesn't help that I'm not the most outgoing person and I'm allergic to virtually every animal in existence which really limits my options.

 

You can just ignore me though, sometimes it feels a little therapeutic to complain about life's problems.

 

Yeah I have started seeing that, it's just depressing it happens to everyone. I live in Massachusetts, my best friend NY state, another in Denver, Dallas, a few in different areas of CA. 



#175 whoknows   Time and Eternity for all of time and eternity CAGiversary!   40113 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted 15 January 2017 - 11:38 PM

Getting old sucks, like blue said. Real life friends have lives, wives and kids now or they just flat out moved out of town. Plus travel distance to and from if you're relatively local. Just far easier to get an hour session together online than it is to have them drive 15-30 minutes one way for however long they're able to commit to. If I live to 60-70, I'm sure that could change but then you've got old people problems to deal with.

 

Can't win either way. Oh and my friend I used to game in real life a ton moved to Japan. So, yeah, that shit doesn't happen anymore except maybe once every 3 years. I suppose it doesn't help that I'm not the most outgoing person and I'm allergic to virtually every animal in existence which really limits my options.

 

You can just ignore me though, sometimes it feels a little therapeutic to complain about life's problems.

No need to ignore. What the person you quoted said was incredibly stupid. It gets to the point where it's just hard to meet up with friends due to busy schedules and playing online with them is a million times more convenient. Of course according to that person that means you don't have any "real life friends".



#176 romeogbs19   Henshin A Go-Go Baby! CAGiversary!   2803 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 08:48 AM

 

So, I'm late to the party, but I just caught up on the Switch release news and the subsequent reactions
 
Wow.
 
I can't believe the lengths some people will go to in order to delude themselves that this launch is acceptable, or that this console will be successful.
 
32 gigs of built-in storage, a lack of ethernet, a paid online system completely lacking in universal friends systems/free game offers, and remakes of games that already sold poorly on other systems (Disgaea, Rayman Legends) or failed to sell WiiUs (Splatoon, Mario Kart 8).
 
This launch would have been unsatisfying midway through the 360/PS3 days. That Nintendo would have the futzpah to try it now, after failing so utterly with the WiiU, is evidence that they will NEVER "get it". There's no humility, no willingness to learn from mistakes, and no sense that they have to earn us as consumers.
 
One of the reasons the PS4's launch was so much more successful than the PS3's was because they built up goodwill...they showed themselves to be a better value. Similarly, even Microsoft showed some understanding of this (too late) when they introduced backwards compatibility, released 4 "free" games a month, and dropped the price of the system. No one can say that these companies have failed to entice consumers with value.
 
By contrast, the Switch in no way seems like a good value.
 
The device fails as a console, because it can't stack up to the competition in terms of game catalog, power, features, or cost. It fails as a portable, because it's battery life is total shit (also: how could they be SO obtuse as to not have a Pokemon game ready at launch...or in 2017, for that matter?).
 
In short, Nintendo has learned nothing. The absolute best thing you could say about it is that, because it's just an overpriced combination of concepts and games that we've already seen, you will no immediately if it appeals to you. Sadly, that will be a very small population indeed.

 

100% agree.  And so do many in the gaming podcast community.  If I ever get one, it will be years from now when it's clear the whole thing has burned down in flames.  I'm sort of in collector mode for Switch in that I know it will be the last proprietary system for Nintendo.  I'll pick it up when stores will be wiping it out, and Nintendo announces it's making games for mobile and ... sadly, its competition.

 

I can't even imagine what might happen if Zelda turns out to be anything less than amazing -- if that game scores even 8s, it will mean the death of Switch before anything else.  I mean, I am skeptical even Breath of the Wild is as good as people say it is.  It's already hyped to infinity.  

 

We all know very few things ever live up to that level of hype, and there will be a lot of hard reviews on Zelda given Nintendo is basically telling players to fork over $450 to play it.



#177 RedvsBlue  

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 10:17 AM

Nothing like a console launch to bring out the trolls. It's a good thing the Switch didn't require a constant online connection or a Kinect. The internet would literally implode on itself at that point.

#178 Condor80   Let's Go Mets!!! CAGiversary!   4474 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 16 January 2017 - 02:04 PM

I think part of the problem is that people are looking at this as a regular home console instead of a tablet with gaming capabilities.  The way I see it, I can get a new ipad mini 32gb for $269 or I can get the Switch for $30 more.  Yes, I know the screen is smaller, but come on, Zelda on the go!  

 

I said earlier I wasn't going to get one yet, but then I thought about how the Wii U never really dropped in price.  I'm going to preorder Zelda and then wait and see what comes out in the spring.  I'm excited about the Mario Kart remake since I was going to drop $300 last month for a Wii U deluxe edition.



#179 Brad Bishop   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   339 Posts   Joined 15.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 02:54 PM

Local multiplayer is inherently fun. Playing with people who are nearby is just a good time, and always has been. The problem in recent years with that type of game is that it is increasingly harder to get people together to play. This is especially true when you have to get them together in a single location. Convincing two or three of my friends to come to my house for a fun evening is difficult no matter what we were planning on doing.

 

 

Local multiplay really is fun, as you say. Outside of the points you mentioned, mainly just getting people together which, you're right, can be a PITA to do, for video games there are some extra hurdles:

- everyone needs to own the console.

- Everyone needs to own the game. (about as close as you'll get to this is Mario Kart)

 

Those are two pretty huge hurdles to get around especially when you consider people gravitating toward XBox or Playstation and then, in a minor way, the Nintendo line.

 

I think Nintendo was pretty close to making this work with the DS and their support of downloadable versions of the games. If you had Mario Kart, for example, your buddy could download a version of it from your DS to their's and then you're racing. If he had the full version then you got all of the tracks. Great way to elevate the fun but also to sell more games (maybe he'd buy Mario Kart after trying it out with you).

 

I know that the 3DS has this feature but I've only seen one game, Mario Party Star <something>, to promote it.

 

I remember watching the initial Switch video showing people playing a game in the middle of a basketball court (like 6-8 of them) or a guy sitting down next to some random chick and them firing up some game to play against each other and I remember thinking, "That looks like A LOT of fun.... and it's also not reality..." It sucks, but it's not.



#180 Brad Bishop   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   339 Posts   Joined 15.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 03:22 PM

The Wii U is, for me, the best console I've owned so far. I know some will compare the specs to the PS4 (or even the PS3) or XBoxes, etc.. 

 

Here's the thing: I had a PSX, PS2, PS3, and a long list of other consoles. The Wii U is one of those machines that I go back to again and again to play. For the PS-line a lot of it was, "Wow.. Look at those graphics!!," and after an initial playing period it'd sit dormant. The Wii had the same problem (except for the wow-graphics bit). It was OK but I thought that the GameCube was SO much better in terms of game play. I'd go back to that again and again when I had it (gave it away to my daughter who still has it and still plays it).

 

The Wii U was a flop, though. A horrible, horrible flop.

 

Some thoughts on this: There was a rumor that Nintendo pulled back all of the remaining stock of Wii Us. I have a Target across the street and haven't seen a Wii U there in months (August, maybe) until after the 1st of the year and then one, I think bundled with Mario Kart 8, showed up. I'm pretty sure it's there right now.. at $300. WTF?? How is it that 4 years into the failed system's life the console is selling at $300. How is it that it's not marked on clearance for $150? Nope.. Sits there collecting dust at $300.

 

Meanwhile, Nintendo's new system is going to be priced at $300.

 

There seems to be a huge disconnect here.

 

Some other thoughts:

 

Ethernet: Nintendo has never made a console with an ethernet port. The Wii and even Wii U should have really had one built in. I know both have WiFi built in but WiFi isn't very good with long term changes (DS and 802.11b / WEP being a good example). I can still plug in 10Mbps ethernet devices into a switch and they'll still work. I can't with old WiFi devices or, I have to go through a lot of work and kind of open up an insecure hole in my network which I don't want to do (and that doesn't always work). Still, for the GameCube, Wii, and Wii U you could buy an ethernet port which was nice. I prefer to have everything that is sitting still in my place hard wired.

 

Switch being a portable home console: It's neat but I don't know that I care. I don't know that, realistically, I'd take my switch on the go with me and that leaves me thinking that there are limitations to it being made portable that really didn't have to be there.

 

Memory: 32GB was small was the Wii U was released. Thankfully you could plug a hard drive into the back and, for me, that's one of the best things about the Wii U: All of my games are in the box. I don't have to have shelving/space to take up a bunch of boxes for games that really just gather dust. I kind of get that they couldn't have put a hard drive in it for power (see the above paragraph about how the probably not-much-used portability will create other limitations) but they could could have made the built-in memory something like 128GB or 256GB. I think if they had it at 128GB that people would still be complaining that it was kind of small.

 

Games: I think that it's pretty obvious that they missed the mark here. People are excited about Zelda and some about Mario (didn't do anything for me - I really think that Super Mario World 3D hit it out of the park for just shear fun) but, that's basically it. Yeah, there are some other odd ducks in there but you get 2 games about 8 months apart in the first year. Smells of Wii U success all over again.

 

Reaction to press conference:

 

I saw some of the YouTube videos of people at the event and it really felt like they were trying to find something to get excited about and, at the same time, feign excitement for what they were being shown. It really felt like a lot of "big smiles" for "this is it???"

 

Online reviews haven't been kind, either. A lot of it has been what we all saw and what's been rehashed here.

 

 

One more thought on the price: I think $300 would have felt better had the Wii U been priced at $200ish for the last year and maybe $150 on clearance. I think that the remaining high price of the Wii U makes the Switch price feel odd like Nintendo doesn't get it.

 

I don't see me getting a Switch. There just doesn't seem to be anything there for me.

 

My only caution to writing it off completely would be to look back and see how they pulled the 3DS out of the pit of despair. It was fully tanking in that first 12-18 months and they took it from there to being a great little portable gaming system.