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Anyone else seen the new backlit GBA SP?


#121 Purkeynator   Cheap before it was cool CAGiversary!   3239 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 02:50 PM

I would be sold on getting a new one if they had the NES decals. Does anyone know if you can buy NES nockoff decals somewhere?

#122 daroga   swimming with nanocarp CAGiversary!   11178 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2005 - 05:04 PM

I would be sold on getting a new one if they had the NES decals. Does anyone know if you can buy NES nockoff decals somewhere?


I got one for my DS early this past summer from decalgirl.com. They don't appear to have any for the GBA nor the DS ones anymore. You might email them and ask though. For the DS it was called "Classic."

daroga

#123 Chris in Cali   Mr. Negativity CAGiversary!   2637 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 06:04 PM

I got one last night, it pisses me off though how shitty the DS screens are in comparison. I can finally play my GBA games in the daytime! I hope Nintendo starts making the DS screen this high in quality instead of the weird projection/crappy backlight they have in the now.

The new GBA sp screens are equal the quality of the PSP. It took Nintendo six tries to make a Gameboy that doesn't blind people,and I bought in every freaking time.

#124 Condor80   Let's Go Mets!!! CAGiversary!   4399 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2005 - 06:04 PM

I got one for my DS early this past summer from decalgirl.com. They don't appear to have any for the GBA nor the DS ones anymore. You might email them and ask though. For the DS it was called "Classic."

daroga


did it look like this?
http://www.xbox-modc...n-retro-big.jpg

#125 dafunkk12   Coconut Monkey CAGiversary!   1659 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2005 - 06:40 PM

Got mine....Here are some pics of my Pearl Blue...sorry for the quality...

Posted Image

McKids! Awesome.

I'll be damned if I get rid of my NES SP for a regular backlit SP. :evil:

Now's a good excuse to lock up your collectable. I always felt guilty playing/touching my NES SP.

I would be sold on getting a new one if they had the NES decals. Does anyone know if you can buy NES nockoff decals somewhere?

I know when the NES SP came out, there were people all over eBay selling decals. You could check there or Google for other "video game skin" e-stores.

#126 banpeikun   LE Nintendo DS? DO WANT CAGiversary!   3585 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2005 - 06:52 PM

I always felt guilty playing/touching my NES SP.

Yeah, I heard if you do it too much, you go blind.

#127 doctorfaustus   Booknerd CAGiversary!   2029 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 06:57 PM

:roll:

So I'm guessing you went somewhere else? :lol:


Yeah, I went next door to a Gamecrazy/hollywood video store.
When I asked the clerk if they had any Sp's I he said "Yeah, and they have brighter screens now." However, he also tried to sell me a GB micro :).

#128 daroga   swimming with nanocarp CAGiversary!   11178 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2005 - 07:22 PM

did it look like this?
http://www.xbox-modc...n-retro-big.jpg


Yep! That's it!

#129 FriskyTanuki   I have a piano CAGiversary!   67204 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 08:02 PM

Frisky, I feel your pain, but honestly, you suddenly realize that you've been missing out the whole time when you see how rich and vibrant the colors are.

If I don't see one, they don't exact. :-\"

Now's a good excuse to lock up your collectable. I always felt guilty playing/touching my NES SP.

I don't collect them, I play them. I don't see $80 worth of upgrade to this and I'm sure as hell not getting rid of my NES SP.

#130 Condor80   Let's Go Mets!!! CAGiversary!   4399 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2005 - 08:31 PM

Yep! That's it!


It looks pretty cool. They still sell it at decalgirl.com too, they just changed the name to retro:

http://www.decalgirl...atid=194&step=2

#131 nogard   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   424 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2005 - 08:39 PM

I hope they put one of those screens for the original GBA, I like those designs better.

#132 Trakan   The Vengeful One Super Moderators   18123 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2005 - 08:45 PM

I hope they put one of those screens for the original GBA, I like those designs better.


They don't even make those anymore.

#133 sblymnlcrymnl   married ... with children CAGiversary!   30091 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 10:11 PM

Yeah, I went next door to a Gamecrazy/hollywood video store.
When I asked the clerk if they had any Sp's I he said "Yeah, and they have brighter screens now." However, he also tried to sell me a GB micro :).


I don't see why stores do that ... their first priority should be "get the money", then the up sell. It's too bad there are so many uninformed people out there who fall for their shit. :roll:

Oh well. If they were smarter it wouldn't happen to them. :lol:

#134 daroga   swimming with nanocarp CAGiversary!   11178 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2005 - 11:58 PM

I would be sold on getting a new one if they had the NES decals. Does anyone know if you can buy NES nockoff decals somewhere?


http://www.decalgirl....cfm/4,3040.htm

:)

#135 Nephilim   Sumerland holds me CAGiversary!   1222 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 02:52 AM

I bought the Graphite model and compared it side by side with my Onyx SP. The difference is incredible. Even on the low brightness on the new model, the old SP frontlit screen looks washed out, colorless, and dim.

I thought I would want to keep an old model, but honestly after seeing the new screen, there is no going back. For instance I booted up 2 copies of Metroid Fusion simultaneously on both systems in the dark. The new screen reveals colors and detail that you cannot even see on the old screen. The opening cinema of the sky on the old model shows a slight blue cloud and some stars, but the new screen shows a multi-blue hue of colors all over the screen, incredible difference.

Then I tried 2 copies of Pinball of the Dead. The old screen does not even reveal the correct colors represented on the new screen. For instance on the table with the clock on the bottom, the old screen had everything brown. The new screen revealed a vibrant green color as well. The red table was a whole new experience on the screen as well. The vibrant colors of the new screen are really night and day to the old one.

Now for the Motion Blur issue.
There is definately some motion blur going on, but not alot. It seems that you only notice on certain images depending on the background. For instance there is an area in Super Mario World where it was very noticeable. I have finished the game so the Dragon coins have an image of Princess Peach on them. These coins are especially noticeable on the new screen as they seem to shimmer as you move past them. this is as they move in and out of the pixels. These Dragon Coins have fine lines in them so the shift is quite noticeable. So, I booted up the old SP, went to same spot and tried to notice the difference. It was not as obvious but it was difficult to tell because the old screen is so dim and washed out in camparison.

I remember reading that the old SP did have some motion blur but never noticed it. I think this is because it is so dim, and the colors so washed out that it is hard to see. The old SP screen in my opinion hides the motion blur.

Now for the slowdown issue.
YES, there is some slowdown that I noticed on Super Mario World that is not there in the old screen. The screen kind of jerks as the pixels fill in the vertical lines on some of the images. It is mildly annoying, but not a big deal.

So, I played Mario World for a while on the new screen. Then I played the same level on the old screen. The now noticeable motion blur and slight slowdown are totally worth the trade off for a proper LCD screen. You are just seeing so much more of the colors and images. I am seeing stuff on every game that I never knew was there, and I always play in low light. I bounced back and forth between the systems, and the old one just plain sucks in comparison.

The new screen lets you see the colors and graphics as they were meant to be seen. There is so much more detail and the colors just jump at you.

I now feel that the frontlight was a band-aid and this is the screen that should have been released all along.

Now the Battery Life issue.

The AC adapter for the new model is smaller and specific to this model. You cannot use the old SP adapter, but you can use the DS one. Battery life on the new model is stated in the manual at 13 hours on the low setting. I can't see ever using the brighter setting except in sunlight, so this is 3 hours longer than the old model. I havent looked at the battery, but it may be the 1000mha one that Japan had as an add on a while back, but they may have found a way to get the same 700mha battery to work for 13 hours with this screen.

In conclusion, yes there is motion blur and a tad bit of slowdown, but the trade-off for correct and vibrant color, brightness, and image clarity make it totally worth it. I can't go back to frontlit model. With each game I put in, it is like a whole new experience. Finally Nintendo gets it right. Oh, and the Micro screen is too small compared to this. Now that this new screen is in here I am gonna pass on the Micro.

#136 -Phantom-   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   324 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 03:31 AM

Does anyone know if Blockbuster/Gamerush will be getting these as well? Will this be the new SP standard, or is this a temporary thing? I ask because I am curious if they are just selling off the old ones first. I didn't see them available there and have some credit I need to use up.

#137 Purkeynator   Cheap before it was cool CAGiversary!   3239 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 03:40 AM

Thanks for the description Niphilim very descriptive. I think I may just get one and order some "retro" decals. I am now considering though- will Nintendo offer this in a bundle pack with a game for $10 more for the holiday season? I saw game bundles all the time with the regular sp. I saw it bundled with games like Metroid Zero, Final Fantasy Tactics, Mario and Luigi. So I am betting it is only a matter of time.........

#138 Nephilim   Sumerland holds me CAGiversary!   1222 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 04:02 AM

Does anyone know if Blockbuster/Gamerush will be getting these as well? Will this be the new SP standard, or is this a temporary thing? I ask because I am curious if they are just selling off the old ones first. I didn't see them available there and have some credit I need to use up.



I am quite sure that all new model GBA SP's will have this new screen. I assume there will be a phase out of the frontlit models after the Holidays. They may just start making the Onyx, Cobalt and Flame with the new screen, but who knows.

I guess we will just have to look for the boxes with the NEW BACKLIT SCREEN text.

For now it's Graphite, Pearl Blue, and the Toys R Us Spongebob models with the new screen. Hopefully we will get some more new colors in the next year of so. Nintendo is famous for Ltd Editions and bundle packs, so keep an eye out. I want an Orange one.

The Graphite is nice, I dont care for the girly pearl blue, as in low light, the lighter color GBA's tend to get some reflection on the edges of the screen. Not to mention that this is a similar color to the dreaded Platinum, which had reports of the paint coming off, yuck.

#139 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11131 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 05:43 AM

I am quite sure that all new model GBA SP's will have this new screen. I assume there will be a phase out of the frontlit models after the Holidays. They may just start making the Onyx, Cobalt and Flame with the new screen, but who knows.

I guess we will just have to look for the boxes with the NEW BACKLIT SCREEN text.

For now it's Graphite, Pearl Blue, and the Toys R Us Spongebob models with the new screen. Hopefully we will get some more new colors in the next year of so. Nintendo is famous for Ltd Editions and bundle packs, so keep an eye out. I want an Orange one.

The Graphite is nice, I dont care for the girly pearl blue, as in low light, the lighter color GBA's tend to get some reflection on the edges of the screen. Not to mention that this is a similar color to the dreaded Platinum, which had reports of the paint coming off, yuck.

Well I've had the platinum for over a year and so far have had no problem with paint coming off.

#140 Stoneage   Don't touch my stuff! CAGiversary!   2009 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 05:51 AM

I'll win a brighter Gameboy SP.....maybe.

#141 cgpwns   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   412 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 06:30 AM

I bought the Graphite model and compared it side by side with my Onyx SP. The difference is incredible. Even on the low brightness on the new model, the old SP frontlit screen looks washed out, colorless, and dim.

I thought I would want to keep an old model, but honestly after seeing the new screen, there is no going back. For instance I booted up 2 copies of Metroid Fusion simultaneously on both systems in the dark. The new screen reveals colors and detail that you cannot even see on the old screen. The opening cinema of the sky on the old model shows a slight blue cloud and some stars, but the new screen shows a multi-blue hue of colors all over the screen, incredible difference.

Then I tried 2 copies of Pinball of the Dead. The old screen does not even reveal the correct colors represented on the new screen. For instance on the table with the clock on the bottom, the old screen had everything brown. The new screen revealed a vibrant green color as well. The red table was a whole new experience on the screen as well. The vibrant colors of the new screen are really night and day to the old one.

Now for the Motion Blur issue.
There is definately some motion blur going on, but not alot. It seems that you only notice on certain images depending on the background. For instance there is an area in Super Mario World where it was very noticeable. I have finished the game so the Dragon coins have an image of Princess Peach on them. These coins are especially noticeable on the new screen as they seem to shimmer as you move past them. this is as they move in and out of the pixels. These Dragon Coins have fine lines in them so the shift is quite noticeable. So, I booted up the old SP, went to same spot and tried to notice the difference. It was not as obvious but it was difficult to tell because the old screen is so dim and washed out in camparison.

I remember reading that the old SP did have some motion blur but never noticed it. I think this is because it is so dim, and the colors so washed out that it is hard to see. The old SP screen in my opinion hides the motion blur.

Now for the slowdown issue.
YES, there is some slowdown that I noticed on Super Mario World that is not there in the old screen. The screen kind of jerks as the pixels fill in the vertical lines on some of the images. It is mildly annoying, but not a big deal.

So, I played Mario World for a while on the new screen. Then I played the same level on the old screen. The now noticeable motion blur and slight slowdown are totally worth the trade off for a proper LCD screen. You are just seeing so much more of the colors and images. I am seeing stuff on every game that I never knew was there, and I always play in low light. I bounced back and forth between the systems, and the old one just plain sucks in comparison.

The new screen lets you see the colors and graphics as they were meant to be seen. There is so much more detail and the colors just jump at you.

I now feel that the frontlight was a band-aid and this is the screen that should have been released all along.

Now the Battery Life issue.

The AC adapter for the new model is smaller and specific to this model. You cannot use the old SP adapter, but you can use the DS one. Battery life on the new model is stated in the manual at 13 hours on the low setting. I can't see ever using the brighter setting except in sunlight, so this is 3 hours longer than the old model. I havent looked at the battery, but it may be the 1000mha one that Japan had as an add on a while back, but they may have found a way to get the same 700mha battery to work for 13 hours with this screen.

In conclusion, yes there is motion blur and a tad bit of slowdown, but the trade-off for correct and vibrant color, brightness, and image clarity make it totally worth it. I can't go back to frontlit model. With each game I put in, it is like a whole new experience. Finally Nintendo gets it right. Oh, and the Micro screen is too small compared to this. Now that this new screen is in here I am gonna pass on the Micro.



"From: Nephhilim | Posted: 9/23/2005 8:56:57 PM | Message Detail
I bought the Graphite model and compared it side by side with my Onyx SP. The difference is incredible. Even on the low brightness on the new model, the old SP frontlit screen looks washed out, colorless, and dim.

I thought I would want to keep an old model, but honestly after seeing the new screen, there is no going back. For instance I booted up 2 copies of Metroid Fusion simultaneously on both systems in the dark. The new screen reveals colors and detail that you cannot even see on the old screen. The opening cinema of the sky on the old model shows a slight blue cloud and some stars, but the new screen shows a multi-blue hue of colors all over the screen, incredible difference.

Then I tried 2 copies of Pinball of the Dead. The old screen does not even reveal the correct colors represented on the new screen. For instance on the table with the clock on the bottom, the old screen had everything brown. The new screen revealed a vibrant green color as well. The red table was a whole new experience on the screen as well. The vibrant colors of the new screen are really night and day to the old one.

Now for the Motion Blur issue. There is definately some motion blur going on, but not alot. It seems that you only notice on certain images depending on the background. For instance there is an area in Super Mario World where it was very noticeable. I have finished the game so the Dragon coins have an image of Princess Peach on them. These coins are especially noticeable on the new screen as they seem to shimmer as you move past them. this is as they move in and out of the pixels. These Dragon Coins have fine lines in them so the shift is quite noticeable. So, I booted up the old SP, went to same spot and tried to notice the difference. It was not as obvious but it was difficult to tell because the old screen is so dim and washed out in camparison.

I remember reading that the old SP did have some motion blur but never noticed it. I think this is because it is so dim, and the colors so washed out that it is hard to see. The old SP screen in my opinion hides the motion blur.

Now for the slowdown issue. YES, there is some slowdown that I noticed on Super Mario World that is not there in the old screen. The screen kind of jerks as the pixels fill in the vertical lines on some of the images. It is mildly annoying, but not a big deal.

So, I played Mario World for a while on the new screen. Then I played the same level on the old screen. The now noticeable motion blur and slight slowdown are totally worth the trade off for a proper LCD screen. You are just seeing so much more of the colors and images. I am seeing stuff on every game that I never knew was there, and I always play in low light. I bounced back and forth between the systems, and the old one just plain sucks in comparison.

The new screen lets you see the colors and graphics as they were meant to be seen. There is so much more detail and the colors just jump at you.

I now feel that the frontlight was a band-aid and this is the screen that should have been released all along.

Now the Battery Life issue.
The AC adapter for the new model is smaller and specific to this model. You cannot use the old SP adapter, but you can use the DS one. Battery life on the new model is stated in the manual at 13 hours on the low setting. I can't see ever using the brighter setting except in sunlight, so this is 3 hours longer than the old model. I havent looked at the battery, but it may be the 1000mha one that Japan had as an add on a while back, but they may have found a way to get the same 700mha battery to work for 13 hours with this screen.

In conclusion, yes there is motion blur and a tad bit of slowdown, but the trade-off for correct and vibrant color, brightness, and image clarity make it totally worth it. I can't go back to frontlit model."

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#142 Ebraum   Captain Hwdy CAGiversary!   1239 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 01:21 PM

I used my old charger with my new Graphite SP and it worked just fine.
The new charger is still wrapped & in the Box.

#143 GizmoGC   I love Cheese CAGiversary!   12395 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 06:02 PM

I no longer have an original SP...but the AC Adapter is different? Looks the same to me.

#144 bugg33   enjoying my sauna CAGiversary!   445 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 06:54 PM

Maybe the AC adaptor is just the same as the DS one. The DS one is smaller and charges the DS and the old SP. Probably they phased out the old one because this one is more compact.

#145 daroga   swimming with nanocarp CAGiversary!   11178 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 09:19 PM

Both the DS and GBA ones are the same voltage. Nintendo's probably just covering their rear by saying it can't be used on the other systems, because I've used older GBA ACs on my DS with no problem at all.

daroga

#146 Nephilim   Sumerland holds me CAGiversary!   1222 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 09:33 PM

Both the DS and GBA ones are the same voltage. Nintendo's probably just covering their rear by saying it can't be used on the other systems, because I've used older GBA ACs on my DS with no problem at all.

daroga


Hmm, I would rather use the correct one. Why would they mention it in the manual unless something is different. I am sure they had to pay for these nice screens, so why not just use the old adapter if it was possible to not redesign them?

#147 swetooth9   Go Heels! CAGiversary!   7144 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 09:39 PM

i think this has been asked before, but i dont remember the answer...is Nintendo gonna also make new DS's with the new backlighting since they got a deal or whatever for the backlight technology or is it just gonna be for the SP's?

#148 smellhasreturned   Peyton Manning CAGiversary!   3342 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 09:48 PM

wow gg nintendo keep recycling the gameboy advance. Keep making idiotic people buy it although they already own one

#149 daroga   swimming with nanocarp CAGiversary!   11178 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

Posted 24 September 2005 - 09:58 PM

Hmm, I would rather use the correct one. Why would they mention it in the manual unless something is different. I am sure they had to pay for these nice screens, so why not just use the old adapter if it was possible to not redesign them?


*shrug* My DS adapter and the new GBA adapter are the same model.

#150 Nephilim   Sumerland holds me CAGiversary!   1222 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 25 September 2005 - 12:16 AM

*shrug* My DS adapter and the new GBA adapter are the same model.


Aha, so they are using the DS AC adapter, interesting. Two systems with backlit LCD's. There must be something about this adapter that makes it necessary for the new SP to use it.