HD DVD thread - Toshiba: HD DVD DISCONTINUED, REPAIR/SUPPORT CONTINUES, NO BLU PLANS

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There's still more to come on this, but here's the press release:

Toshiba Announces Discontinuation of HD DVD Businesses

19 February, 2008

Company Remains Focused on Championing Consumer Access to High Definition Content

TOKYO--Toshiba Corporation today announced that it has undertaken a thorough review of its overall strategy for HD DVD and has decided it will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders. This decision has been made following recent major changes in the market. Toshiba will continue, however, to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.

HD DVD was developed to offer consumers access at an affordable price to high-quality, high definition content and prepare them for the digital convergence of tomorrow where the fusion of consumer electronics and IT will continue to progress.

"We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called 'next-generation format war' and concluded that a swift decision will best help the market develop," said Atsutoshi Nishida, President and CEO of Toshiba Corporation. "While we are disappointed for the company and more importantly, for the consumer, the real mass market opportunity for high definition content remains untapped and Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality."

Toshiba will continue to lead innovation, in a wide range of technologies that will drive mass market access to high definition content. These include high capacity NAND flash memory, small form factor hard disk drives, next generation CPUs, visual processing, and wireless and encryption technologies. The company expects to make forthcoming announcements around strategic progress in these convergence technologies.

Toshiba will begin to reduce shipments of HD DVD players and recorders to retail channels, aiming for cessation of these businesses by the end of March 2008. Toshiba also plans to end volume production of HD DVD disk drives for such applications as PCs and games in the same timeframe, yet will continue to make efforts to meet customer requirements. The company will continue to assess the position of notebook PCs with integrated HD DVD drives within the overall PC business relative to future market demand.

This decision will not impact on Toshiba's commitment to standard DVD, and the company will continue to market conventional DVD players and recorders. Toshiba intends to continue to contribute to the development of the DVD industry, as a member of the DVD Forum, an international organization with some 200 member companies, committed to the discussion and defining of optimum optical disc formats for the consumer and the related industries.

Toshiba also intends to maintain collaborative relations with the companies who joined with Toshiba in working to build up the HD DVD market, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation and major Japanese and European content providers on the entertainment side, as well as leaders in the IT industry, including Microsoft, Intel, and HP. Toshiba will study possible collaboration with these companies for future business opportunities, utilizing the many assets generated through the development of HD DVD.

Also from the conference:
Q: Any plans to adopt Blu-ray?
A: No plans at all, not at this moment.


2/18 - MS to release Blu-Ray add-on this Spring?

No official word from Toshiba, board meeting happening soon


2/14 -
Japan's NHK has followed up The Hollywood Reporter's earlier indications Toshiba was ready to dump its money-losing HD DVD business, with news that the company is prepared to cease manufacturing software and hardware, at a loss of hundreds of millions of dollars. This caps the worst week ever for red, when HD DVD was dumped by Netflix and Wal-mart, pushed to the background by Best Buy and put on -- an apparently incredibly short -- deathwatch.

Along with an English translation of the NHK's article comes additional confirmation from Reuters sources, it's a wrap. Toshiba is shutting down its DVD manufacturing facilities in Aomori Prefecture, Japan, while official word is expected "soon".
Via Engadget





[size=-2]Regular (but modified) OP will be back sometime this week, working on it.[/size]
 
I usually rent, not buy since prices are high and I have other things to spend my money on currently. I may buy one more with Google Checkout soon...not sure if I want HD or BD though.

Although, this is what I own

HD-DVD:
- King Kong
- Fast and the Furious
- Batman Begins
- Clerks II (pre-order)

Blu-Ray:
- Talladegha Nights (PS3 version)
 
HD-DVD:
-King Kong
-Superman
-Superman 2
-Superman Returns
-Batman (pending)
-V for Vendetta (pending)



Blu-Ray:
-Saw

Edit.. Just noticed that this is a hd dvd thread so scratch br.
 
HD-DVD
12 Monkeys
40 Year Old Virgin
300
The Ant Bully
Batman Begins
Big Lebowski
Blazing Saddles
Blood Diamond
Casino
Chronicles of Riddick
Coming to America
Constantine
The Departed
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Fearless
Half Baked
Happy Feet
The Hulk
Jarhead
King Kong
Knocked Up
The Mummy
The Mummy Returns
Nine Inch Nails: Beside You in Time
Planet Earth
Ray
The Road Warrior
A Scanner Darkly
Seabiscuit
The Searchers
Serenity
Shaun of the Dead
Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow
Superman The Movie
Superman II Donner Cut
Superman Returns
The Ultimate Matrix Collection
Ultimate Missions Collection
Unforgiven
Untouchables
V for Vendetta

Want List
Dragonheart
Black Snake Moan

My burgeoning Blu Ray collection
28 Weeks Later
Apocalypto
Big Fish
Black Hawk Down
Cars
Casino Royale
Corpse Bride
Crank
Donnie Brasco
Dracula
Fantastic Four
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
Fifth Element
Finding Neverland
Ghost Rider
Goodfellas
Hellboy
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Ice Age The Meltdown
Invincible
King Arthur
Kingdom of Heaven
Kung Fu Hustle
L4yer Cake
Memento
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
The Prestige
The Queen
Ratatouille
Reign of Fire
Reservoir Dogs
Rocky Balboa
Saw 3
Speed
Stir of Echoes
Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby
The Terminator
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
TMNT
Transporter 2
Troy Director's Cut
Ultimate Avengers 1 & 2
Underworld Evolution
The Usual Suspects
Volver
We Are Marshall
X-Men: The Last Stand

Want List
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Black Snake Moan
Crash
 
Cinderella Man
King Kong
Nacho Libre

I'm tempted to pre-order Clerks 2, but I wasn't a big fan of the film. Any early reviews on the quality of the transfer,etc?
 
[quote name='terribledeli']Cinderella Man
King Kong
Nacho Libre

I'm tempted to pre-order Clerks 2, but I wasn't a big fan of the film. Any early reviews on the quality of the transfer,etc?[/QUOTE]

Check highdefdigest (linked in the OP)....they said the transfer was decent, not great.

However, listening to the included audio commentaries on the disc, the transfer apparently looks exactly the way Kevin Smith intended, so I have to temper my disappointment by conceding to the sanctity of the filmmaker's vision.

So take that for what it's worth. Some people think high-def picture quality should be spotless/flawless no matter what, others think it provides the most room for delivering the picture exactly the way the filmmaker intended. For me it depends on the film - Casablanca and Full Metal Jacket, I don't care about PQ so much as the movie looking as intended. Something like one of the newer Star Wars films, which is a visual feast but a mess story-wise, I'd rather just have a showpiece that looks amazing. Then you get the movies that take the best elements of both (Batman Begins)...if only all movies struck that balance. That's the nice thing about the new formats though - you can get both.

I've heard it has more extras than the DVD version of Clerks II, not sure about that. The extras ARE in high-def though, which is rare.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Check highdefdigest (linked in the OP)....they said the transfer was good, not great. It DOES have more extras than the DVD version though, which is rare for an HD-DVD.[/QUOTE]
Not according to hidefdigest, which gives its hidef features no stars and specifically mentions it.
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/clerksii.html
Stay away from this shitty movie. Spend like $11-14 on something good with GCO at DVDPlanet.
 
I've got:

Batman Begins
Cinderella Man
The Fast and the Furious
Happy Gilmore
King Kong
Mission Impossible Collection
THe Mummy
Superman
Superman 2
Supermna Returns
Terminator 3
 
Own:

2 Fast 2 Furious
Batman Begins
Constantine
Fast & the Furious
King Kong - (Will be eBaying)
Mission Impossible
Mission Impossible II
Mission Impossible III
Sahara
V For Vendetta
 
own

king kong
perfect storm
world trade center
superman returns
last samuri
fear &loathing in las vegas
serenity

i would get clerks 2, but I already bought it on dvd, and isn't a must have title for me
 
I just got the HD-DVD add-on last week. I currently have King Kong (of course), V for Vendetta, Blazing Saddles, and Serenity. Clerks 2 is forthcoming.

Blazing Saddles really surprised me. It's amazing how clean they can make a 30-year-old movie if they make the effort.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Here is a link worth bookmarking.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=705387

It is a general consensus user based list that categorizes the picture quality of rereleased movies on HD DVD to help you decide if any are worth buying again.[/QUOTE]
Damn you and your informative links! It just convinced me to buy Hulk for $11.89 at buy.com with GCO.

And why doesn't anyone like King Kong? I thought they could have done a lot worse for a throw in.
 
Have:
Cinderalla Man
King Kong
V For Vendetta
Phantom of the Opera
Hulk
Unforgiven
Goodfellas
Corpse Bride
Superman 2
Full Metal Jacket

Will get soon: Clerks 2 (held off on dvd when I found out the HD version was forthcoming
 
[quote name='cleaver']Not according to hidefdigest, which gives its hidef features no stars and specifically mentions it.
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/clerksii.html
Stay away from this shitty movie. Spend like $11-14 on something good with GCO at DVDPlanet.[/QUOTE]
Clerks II is a fine film, has certainly better performances than the first and is arguably better overall.

Highdefdigest gives almost every single movie out there no stars for high def extras (see for yourself), because VERY few films HAVE high def extras. And from that same review:

Smith and the View Askew crew have stacked the standard-def release with two discs of goodies, and happily all of them have made the jump to HD DVD. And as an added bonus, all of the video material is presented in full 1080p video. Sweet.

....so I'm kind of surprised that they gave it zero stars. Maybe an oversignt, or they don't include high def versions of DVD content "extras." I don't know.

I did revise my earlier post. This is the first time I've seen something not saying there were more extras on the HD-DVD (although to be fair, I've only seen 3 articles on it including this one). I suppose we'll find out in a few days.

[quote name='cleaver']Damn you and your informative links! It just convinced me to buy Hulk for $11.89 at buy.com with GCO.

And why doesn't anyone like King Kong? I thought they could have done a lot worse for a throw in.[/QUOTE]

That picture quality thread was linked in the OP of the add-on player thread! Hmph. I didn't even know GCO worked with dvdplanet, though. Nice.

And why doesn't anyone like King Kong? I thought they could have done a lot worse for a throw in.

I thought it was an ok pack-in, certainly equal to or better than that damn Will Ferrell movie with the PS3. Their options may have been a bit limited, as I'm sure they wanted something that a) wasn't R-rated b) was a Universal film and c) was a big budget/big hype film. Plus the picture quality came out arguably the best the format has seen to date, so it's a logical pack-in. Sure, there were other films I would have preferred, but I'm not griping about it. It's fine.
 
[quote name='cleaver']Damn you and your informative links! It just convinced me to buy Hulk for $11.89 at buy.com with GCO.

And why doesn't anyone like King Kong? I thought they could have done a lot worse for a throw in.[/QUOTE]

That picture quality thread was linked in the OP of the add-on player thread! Hmph. I didn't even know GCO worked with dvdplanet, though. Nice.

And why doesn't anyone like King Kong? I thought they could have done a lot worse for a throw in.

I thought it was an ok pack-in, certainly equal to or better than that damn Will Ferrell movie with the PS3. Their options may have been a bit limited, as I'm sure they wanted something that a) wasn't R-rated b) was a Universal film and c) was a big budget/big hype film. Plus the picture quality came out arguably the best the format has seen to date, so it's a logical pack-in. Sure, there were other films I would have preferred, but I'm not griping about it. It's fine.
 
LOL at people saying Clerks II is a shitty movie. Please get a sense of humor, or go live in a cave for the rest of your life.


And Cleaver, have you seen Clerks?
 
[quote name='anomynous']LOL at people saying Clerks II is a shitty movie. Please get a sense of humor, or go live in a cave for the rest of your life.

And Cleaver, have you seen Clerks?[/QUOTE]
I saw Clerks and the rest of the Jersey trilogy. It's not that I didn't get the jokes in Clerks 2 I just didn't think they were funny. I'm not trying to rip on anyone, I just don't see how the jokes are able to stand on their own, or have the cleverness of, for example, Arrested Development inside jokes. It just seemed conceited to me.
 
So Far I have:

HD-DVD
King Kong
Superman
Superman 2
Superman Returns
Miami Vice
Cinderella Man -Target Clearance $4.98
Enter the Dragon
The Thing
An American Werewolf in London
Clerks 2
The Departed
Lucky Number Selvin
NIN
Jet Li Fearless
March of the Penguins
Happy Feet
Smoking Aces
Batman Begins
Unforgiven
Scanner Darkly
Million Dollar Baby
Planet Earth: The Complete Collection
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
Constantine
Caddyshack
Bullitt
Feast
V for Vendetta
The Fountain
Road Warrior
Dog Day Afternoon
The Ultimate Matrix Collection
Dreamgirls
Big Lebowski
Harsh Times
Army of Darkness (no combo)
Blood Diamond
Darkman
300
Shooter
Disturbia
Hot Fuzz
TMNT
Host
Casablanca (B2G1)
Fast and Furious (B2G1)
Casino (B2G1)
Heroes Season 1
Knocked Up
Transformers
Shrek the Third
The Kingdom
The Mummy
Mummy Returns
Dune
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Backdraft
12 Monkeys
Face off
Oceans Trilogy
The Bourne Trilogy
Harry Potter 1-5 Case
Blade Runner
Zodiac
Slither
Pianist
Next
Payback
Pan's Labyrinth
2001 - A Space Odyssey

Blu-ray
Memento
Pirates of the Caribbean - The Curse of the Black Pearl
Pirates of the Caribbean - Dead Man's Chest
Monster House
Bridge to Terabithia
Night at the Museum
Crank
X-Men - The Last Stand
Stranger Than Fiction
Corpse Bride
Invincible
Species
Italian Job
Underworld Evolution
Fantastic Four Silver Surfer
Live Free Die Hard
Spiderman Collection
Meet the Robinsons
Ratatouille
Curse of the Golden Flower
Hellboy
Layer Cake
Donnie Brasco
Fifth Element
The Replacement Killers
Brothers Grimm
Lookout
Identity
First Blood
Paprika
Simpsons Movie
Pirates of the Caribbean - At World's End
Superbad
War
Shoot'em Up
310 to Yuma
Dracula
Underworld
Dawn of Dead
Day of Dead
King Aurthur
Kingdom of Heaven
Speed
Die Hard
Die Hard with Vengence
28 days later
28 weeks later
Wild Things
District B13
Tekkon Kinkreet
Secret Window
Incubus - Alive at Red Rocks
Con-Air
 
Own:

King Kong
V for Vendetta
Batman Begins
Sleepy Hollow
Aeon Flux
The Last Samurai
Pitch Black
MI:III
Constantine
The Searchers
We Were Soldiers
Superman: The Movie
Superman II: The Donner Cut
Superman Returns
Miami Vice
Chronos
World Trade Center
Fearless
The Eagles:Farewell Tour


Pre-order:

Clerks II
 
So far...

King Kong
Batman Begins
Corpse Bride
Training Day
Friday Night Lights-------(Thanks PM from Sears ad to BB...$7.50!)
Cinderella Man -----------(Thanks Target...$4.98!)
Chronicles of Riddick
Mission Impossible III

I'm a regular poster over on AVSforums, but would like to get the CAGs opinion on a few discs...i'll bring them up as I think of em.

I'm thinking about picking up Fearless/Tokyo Drift/Casino...any opinions on the PQ of these discs?
 
[quote name='JDMxB']I'm thinking about picking up Fearless/Tokyo Drift/Casino...any opinions on the PQ of these discs?[/QUOTE]

I just picked up Fearless but haven't checked it out yet, I'm going to try to get to it by this weekend. I'll post something after.

It's a combo disc, which I have tried to avoid (this is my first one), but I liked the movie enough in theaters to pick it up on disc.
 
I have:

Kong
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (old one)
Corpse Bride
Polar Express

Looking forward to the NIN concert HDDVD, Star Trek Collection, Harry Potters, and Matrixes (of the announced discs).
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']

I thought it was an ok pack-in, certainly equal to or better than that damn Will Ferrell movie with the PS3. Their options may have been a bit limited, as I'm sure they wanted something that a) wasn't R-rated b) was a Universal film and c) was a big budget/big hype film. Plus the picture quality came out arguably the best the format has seen to date, so it's a logical pack-in. Sure, there were other films I would have preferred, but I'm not griping about it. It's fine.[/quote]

I really dont want to start a whole flame war but you cannot compare the will ferrell movie to king kong..

I thought it was an excellent pack in and showed off the potential of hd dvd tremendously... It probably still is the number 1 movie on hd dvd on the pq list
 
DVDTALK.com gave FEARLESS a Collector's Edition rating (highest possible). I'll give it a rent if Blockbuster.com gets their poop together. (The HD/BD are lacking seriously)

Also, Talledega Nights as the PS3 pack in was a 25GB disc (not the unrated one). The PQ on that was not great....I'm still looking for another disc to get. I'd rather wait until there are more deal though, as I rent more now as I don't really watch movies twice.
 
Owned:
King Kong
Last Samurai
Batman Begins
V for Vendetta
Black Rain
The Phantom of the Opera
The Rundown
Out of Sight

Will pickup one day:
Apollo 13
Lost in Translation
The Interpreter
Syriana
The Departed
 
First Look at THD:

original.jpeg


No price MSRP given yet. But they state that it will not cost more than current titles.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...Packaging,_Plus_Lord_of_the_Rings_in_2007/431
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']I just picked up Fearless but haven't checked it out yet, I'm going to try to get to it by this weekend. I'll post something after.

It's a combo disc, which I have tried to avoid (this is my first one), but I liked the movie enough in theaters to pick it up on disc.[/QUOTE]

I want this to be my 3rd HD disk, although these combo formats are too expensive. I may have to wait for a deal or price-drop. Even the GCO brings this disk only down to ~$24 shipped.
 
LMAO at the TotalHD packaging. Why do I get the feeling that the format will confuse people even MORE? Now instead of two clearly marked formats (reddish-case vs. blueish-case), we'll have a half-red/half-blue case...probably sitting in-between them on shelves, no less.

If EVERY studio did that it would be fine, but you know Sony/Fox isn't budging anytime soon, and same goes for Universal.


General consensus is Fearless does have an excellent transfer - that dvdtalk review above says it's "reference quality" and arguably the best looking disc to date. AVS users at least partially agree - it's tier 1 (which is now the second highest since they've brought in a "tier 0" for blow-you-away picture quality discs like Hulk and King Kong. I have seen a few people saying Fearless is a bit soft, but that is likely nitpicking that always occurs whenever something is heavily praised.
 
The Total HD is just a concept I believe. It's HORRIBLE. It might be passable since it matches Superman, but it looks way too cartoony. Plus, I don't see them using a slipcase for EVERY Total HD movie.
 
i would think that the total hd dvd player that plays both hd dvd and blue ray discs would sell better then dual formatted discs

what happened to the rumor that disney was going to announce hd dvd support at ces?
 
[quote name='ryanbph']i would think that the total hd dvd player that plays both hd dvd and blue ray discs would sell better then dual formatted discs

what happened to the rumor that disney was going to announce hd dvd support at ces?[/QUOTE]

Nothing yet, apparently. Same goes for Lionsgate, who was also rumored. The blow on Lionsgate is lessened for me though, since now that they're on XBLM and it's only a matter of time before a) a bigger hard drive is released and b) movies are available for purchase rather than rent.


Sony has more to lose here, and it's obvious they are laying everything they have into this to hang on to all the studios they can. Not that Toshiba et al aren't laying their ass on the line as well, but Sony has been in dire need of something like Blu-Ray to succeed and get them back moving forward.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Nothing yet, apparently. Same goes for Lionsgate, who was also rumored. The blow on Lionsgate is lessened for me though, since now that they're on XBLM and it's only a matter of time before a) a bigger hard drive is released and b) movies are available for purchase rather than rent.


Sony has more to lose here, and it's obvious they are laying everything they have into this to hang on to all the studios they can. Not that Toshiba et al aren't laying their ass on the line as well, but Sony has been in dire need of something like Blu-Ray to succeed and get them back moving forward.[/QUOTE]

I still don't see how one could "purchase" a HD movie over XBLA. Basically, we have 12GB of free space. A HD movie at the least is 15GB (DL=30GB)...although, that has been increased to 17-34 now. I would much rather own the physical copy of the disc.

I'm upset Lionsgate didn't jump. I love horror movies, and they seem to have a majority of them.
 
[quote name='doubledown']I still don't see how one could "purchase" a HD movie over XBLA. Basically, we have 12GB of free space.[/QUOTE]

I guess I didn't make it clear enough - point A and point B of what you quoted go together.

I'd also RATHER have a physical copy of the disc, but if most of the studios that aren't on HD-DVD at least go on XBLM, it won't bug me.
 
OWNED:
King Kong
Hulk
Constantine

WILL BUY:
The Thing
Clerks II

Just signed up for Blockbuster Online as well.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']I really dont want to start a whole flame war but you cannot compare the will ferrell movie to king kong..

I thought it was an excellent pack in and showed off the potential of hd dvd tremendously... It probably still is the number 1 movie on hd dvd on the pq list[/QUOTE]

I agree, although Hulk gives it a reallllllllllly good run for it's money.

Hulk's dark scenes are the only reason it's not #1 in my mind.

Spectacular transfer.. this is the dvd that sold me on HD-DVD.
 
strange issue...

so i rented mami vice hd dvd...

it came damaged but i was able to watch a little of the beginning of the movie where they are on the docs and then to the club...heres where it stopped playing..

luckily its a combo disk so i just flipped it around and now im watching in sd...the strange thing is that on the dvd side.. the movie starts from the club scene..

wtf
 
[quote name='guyver2077']strange issue...

so i rented mami vice hd dvd...

it came damaged but i was able to watch a little of the beginning of the movie where they are on the docs and then to the club...heres where it stopped playing..

luckily its a combo disk so i just flipped it around and now im watching in sd...the strange thing is that on the dvd side.. the movie starts from the club scene..

wtf[/QUOTE]
The SD version is the Theatrical version. THe HD side is the Unrated extended cut. There are actually quite a few differences and the extended version flows a lot better.
 
Picked up the last copy of Fearless at DVDempire via the google 10 off 10 for a total of $24 shipped. BB want's $39.99!!!

DVDtalk recently gave it super high marks so I hope i'm not dissapointed.
 
HD-DVD
Cinderella Man
Batman Begins
World Trade Center
King Kong
MI3
Fearless
Superman Returns
Smallville Season 5

Blu-ray
X-men III
Talladega Nights
Tomb Raider
Enemy of the State
Terminator 2
Underworld Evolution
Kingdom of Heaven Dirctor's Cut
 
Ok, watched Fearless. Excellent picture...not quite King Kong but probably the second best-looking disc I have.

I saw it in the theaters but it was good enough to buy. I'm usually kind of "eh" on martial arts-based films but I loved this movie.
 
Wow just saw pitch black for the first time....

great movie and looked phenomenal!


i saw fearless in the theatres.. decent but a tad boring for my tastes.. not a fan of subtitled movies
 
[quote name='doubledown']I still don't see how one could "purchase" a HD movie over XBLA. Basically, we have 12GB of free space. A HD movie at the least is 15GB (DL=30GB)...although, that has been increased to 17-34 now. I would much rather own the physical copy of the disc.

I'm upset Lionsgate didn't jump. I love horror movies, and they seem to have a majority of them.[/QUOTE]

I'm more for them because they have at leasy one series I want in HD: Weeds. I might pick up "Deadwood" but most of the new American shows I want are from Showtime, at least one being from Sony("Huff"). Past that it's older CW Drama shows which Disney owns the rights to. Oh well, at least NBC Universal did "House", now where is it?
Also just wondering two things. What old Miramax movies does the new "Weinstein Company" have the rights to, specifically of the Jersey Trilogy and "Sin City"? And will I have a choice between True HD discs and HD-DVD or will I be forced to stomach paying the Blu-Ray cost?
 
Currently own-
Accepted
Friday Night Lights
MI 1,2, & 3
King Kong
Slither

Been using Netflix to rent other HD DVD titles. I really don't like having to buy dual format dvd/HD dvd titles.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']


i saw fearless in the theatres.. decent but a tad boring for my tastes.. not a fan of subtitled movies[/QUOTE]

That's funny. These days I more and more seem to enjoy foreign (subtitled) movies than American movies.

And dubbing a foreign movie ruins it horribly.
 
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