Sony In Trouble?
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[quote name='zewone']Damnit. 
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Them's the breaks. Given the choice between someone who's clearly doing it to piss people off and someone who seems to have their gag reflex activated by the mere thought of the Playstation 3, and it's not really a choice at all.
We were never meant to be.
[/QUOTE]Them's the breaks. Given the choice between someone who's clearly doing it to piss people off and someone who seems to have their gag reflex activated by the mere thought of the Playstation 3, and it's not really a choice at all.
We were never meant to be.
If Sony still made BC PS3s, I probably would have bought one when I decided to get a next-gen system. With that out of the picture, I picked 360 over PS3 for a better overall game library. I'm not ruling getting one in the future, but they need killer exclusives and a real price drop if they're not bringing back BC.
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Maul there's no right or wrong answer, but given that someone wanted to get into the HD era of gaming and just wanted to play games, which should be the baseline for this discussion, since these are essentially gaming machines, I think the 360 wins that every time. From there other mitigating factors are involved, but at it's base, the 360 is a better choice as a games machine.
Could anyone reasonably recommend the PS3? I think a lot of Sony fanbois would, but weighing the facts, the majority of people will go with 360 for games.[/quote]
Like I said, if this was early 2007, then yeah, 360 all the way. At this point, there is little difference between the two systems. How are 360 games that much better than the PS3's? Do they give me a blowjob when I'm playing or something? There are so few exclusives on each system that I really can't say that either one destroys the other in that category. Online is not much different at this point either. I'm still amazed there are chumps out there that think XBL is worth the full 50 bucks, when PS3 does the same exact thing for free. I felt ripped off paying 8 bucks for a month subcription.
I would recommend a 360 over a PS3, simply because of the price. There's really no other reason besides that. Sony and Microsoft have both failed to make their system different from the other. Instead of people bitching that Sony is finished, people should be bitching about that.
Maul there's no right or wrong answer, but given that someone wanted to get into the HD era of gaming and just wanted to play games, which should be the baseline for this discussion, since these are essentially gaming machines, I think the 360 wins that every time. From there other mitigating factors are involved, but at it's base, the 360 is a better choice as a games machine.
Could anyone reasonably recommend the PS3? I think a lot of Sony fanbois would, but weighing the facts, the majority of people will go with 360 for games.[/quote]
Like I said, if this was early 2007, then yeah, 360 all the way. At this point, there is little difference between the two systems. How are 360 games that much better than the PS3's? Do they give me a blowjob when I'm playing or something? There are so few exclusives on each system that I really can't say that either one destroys the other in that category. Online is not much different at this point either. I'm still amazed there are chumps out there that think XBL is worth the full 50 bucks, when PS3 does the same exact thing for free. I felt ripped off paying 8 bucks for a month subcription.
I would recommend a 360 over a PS3, simply because of the price. There's really no other reason besides that. Sony and Microsoft have both failed to make their system different from the other. Instead of people bitching that Sony is finished, people should be bitching about that.
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[quote name='Blackout']How are 360 games that much better than the PS3's? Do they give me a blowjob when I'm playing or something?[/QUOTE]
You PM me the minute that title comes out. If it doesn't support trophies on the PS3, I'm there.
You PM me the minute that title comes out. If it doesn't support trophies on the PS3, I'm there.
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[quote name='heavyd853']I understand that Microsoft has resolved the issues behind their hardware failures, but there's still faulty hardware out there (I know it warrantied).
My brother's 360 red ringed last week or the week before, so even though it's a resolved issue, that doesn't mean its not affecting anyone.[/quote]
Then you may be appalled to hear that there are still issues with the systems and that is not going to go away All the systems didn't have that piece of rubber to minimize scratches. So even with the red ring gone, you still have unprotected discs, horrible dvd drives, and a system that offends the sensibilities of style.
I still find it rather hilarious that people who have went through 2.3.4. or 20 of the 360s still stick buy it like they will one day find the console that doesn't mess up. I also guarantee that the sales spike is from people selling their old 360s or their refurbished 360s and buying a new arcade and just putting the hard drive in there.
My brother's 360 red ringed last week or the week before, so even though it's a resolved issue, that doesn't mean its not affecting anyone.[/quote]
Then you may be appalled to hear that there are still issues with the systems and that is not going to go away All the systems didn't have that piece of rubber to minimize scratches. So even with the red ring gone, you still have unprotected discs, horrible dvd drives, and a system that offends the sensibilities of style.
I still find it rather hilarious that people who have went through 2.3.4. or 20 of the 360s still stick buy it like they will one day find the console that doesn't mess up. I also guarantee that the sales spike is from people selling their old 360s or their refurbished 360s and buying a new arcade and just putting the hard drive in there.
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I still find it rather hilarious that people who have went through 2.3.4. or 20 of the 360s still stick buy it like they will one day find the console that doesn't mess up. I also guarantee that the sales spike is from people selling their old 360s or their refurbished 360s and buying a new arcade and just putting the hard drive in there.[/QUOTE]
Ok...
You do realize that those people who bought the refurbs were still buying a 360 right? That's another 360 sold anyways, so it's a moot point.
I still find it rather hilarious that people who have went through 2.3.4. or 20 of the 360s still stick buy it like they will one day find the console that doesn't mess up. I also guarantee that the sales spike is from people selling their old 360s or their refurbished 360s and buying a new arcade and just putting the hard drive in there.[/QUOTE]
Ok...
You do realize that those people who bought the refurbs were still buying a 360 right? That's another 360 sold anyways, so it's a moot point.
Myke and I disagree on some things but he doesn't have his head up his ass on Digital Distribution. We ALL lose in the process. More halfassed games for a slightly lower or possibly the same price. So far most of what I see on PSN/XBLA I would NOT count as full fledged games except I suspect Bionic Commando Rearmed and perhaps that 1941 remake. Oh and Megaman 9. Never mind the fact there are NEVER comparatively good sales, at least on the console models.
I'm sorry but I think companies like Best Buy, Gamestop and others will have something to say if Nintendo and the rest try a digital distribution model. The point is they just won't stock the consoles and tell consumers why and may even come up with their own console, giving consumers a disc based solution to those games they want that are download only. Let us not forget that some don't even have Broadband.
Consider if you will what will be left of those stores if it goes Digital Distribution only for media. There's NO DVD section, no video game section or PC game section. So now all that's left are the stores trying to sell computers, speaker systems and washers and dryers as well as TV's. Yeah that shits NOT going to float period. Sales of DVD's and other things, little as their profit may be, do power them in day to day sales. By contrast when do you see those other things, with the exception of appliances sell? Oh yeah, around Thanksgiving and Christmas so no.
edit: I hate to break it to everyone but a 3rd console will always be around. Oh it may stay temporarily 2 consoles at one point but another will ALWAYS pop in. I think the royalty temptation is just too much. I really don't understand why Konami and other 3rd parties just don't form their own console and shoulder the costs and losses between each other and create a lower cost licensing and royalty model.
I'm sorry but I think companies like Best Buy, Gamestop and others will have something to say if Nintendo and the rest try a digital distribution model. The point is they just won't stock the consoles and tell consumers why and may even come up with their own console, giving consumers a disc based solution to those games they want that are download only. Let us not forget that some don't even have Broadband.
Consider if you will what will be left of those stores if it goes Digital Distribution only for media. There's NO DVD section, no video game section or PC game section. So now all that's left are the stores trying to sell computers, speaker systems and washers and dryers as well as TV's. Yeah that shits NOT going to float period. Sales of DVD's and other things, little as their profit may be, do power them in day to day sales. By contrast when do you see those other things, with the exception of appliances sell? Oh yeah, around Thanksgiving and Christmas so no.
edit: I hate to break it to everyone but a 3rd console will always be around. Oh it may stay temporarily 2 consoles at one point but another will ALWAYS pop in. I think the royalty temptation is just too much. I really don't understand why Konami and other 3rd parties just don't form their own console and shoulder the costs and losses between each other and create a lower cost licensing and royalty model.
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By the way, my 360 has never RRed.
Still, the difference is, you Sony fanboys will defend your company to the death and you take insults directed at Sony and the PS3 as a personal attack. I love the 360, but we're not above admitting that MS sucks dick and the 360 is made with clay and bat shit.
Still, in the end, it has better games, more games and is cheaper.
Still, the difference is, you Sony fanboys will defend your company to the death and you take insults directed at Sony and the PS3 as a personal attack. I love the 360, but we're not above admitting that MS sucks dick and the 360 is made with clay and bat shit.
Still, in the end, it has better games, more games and is cheaper.
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It's over. Sony is finished.
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Its cheaper to build new technology now, (blue-ray, and no, not for movies, for larger storage) because prices always go up as years pass. By the time the 360 and Wii fade, the ps3 will still be a sound next gen machine along with a lower price, tons of games, and a high install base already implemented.
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Paco, I love that avatar, but I hate everything you post.
You're like a version of Mana Knight that doesn't know how to write.
You're like a version of Mana Knight that doesn't know how to write.
Nice to see Shane Bettenhausen thinking about his future after Ziff.
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your rite he shold
Myke has me all wrong. I'm a calm, reasonable sort of person.
I don't regret ditching the PS3, and it isn't for "emotional" reasons. By the time I realized I wanted to sell it, I had two blu ray games left and only played Motorstorm because it was easy to play while listening to a podcast. Otherwise the machine sat dormant unless I was playing a PS2 game or watching the 1up show.
Didn't live up to the hype, is not a $400 value. My reasons are based on experience and disappointment. I have a preference. Hate me.
Myke has me all wrong. I'm a calm, reasonable sort of person.
I don't regret ditching the PS3, and it isn't for "emotional" reasons. By the time I realized I wanted to sell it, I had two blu ray games left and only played Motorstorm because it was easy to play while listening to a podcast. Otherwise the machine sat dormant unless I was playing a PS2 game or watching the 1up show.
Didn't live up to the hype, is not a $400 value. My reasons are based on experience and disappointment. I have a preference. Hate me.
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[quote name='jer7583']Paco, I love that avatar, but I hate everything you post.
You're like a version of Mana Knight that doesn't know how to write.[/quote]
I find that detestable. Calling me a Mana Knight. How dare you. You should apologize for your flippant accusations and say you're sorry. Though in all fairness, I'm not going to write a long editorial about a video game console. I'm not going to pull out facts and explain why this is better then this. I'm in it for fun and possibly a form of tomfoolery.
You're like a version of Mana Knight that doesn't know how to write.[/quote]
I find that detestable. Calling me a Mana Knight. How dare you. You should apologize for your flippant accusations and say you're sorry. Though in all fairness, I'm not going to write a long editorial about a video game console. I'm not going to pull out facts and explain why this is better then this. I'm in it for fun and possibly a form of tomfoolery.
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Your gimmick is not funny.
Mana's is.
Mana's is.
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[quote name='jer7583']Your gimmick is not funny.
Mana's is.[/quote]
I never said I was a gimmick and I never promoted myself as one. But in all honesty Mana is a nice person and he's very passionate about what he likes. When did that honestly become a bad trait? I'll agree that Mana is fun to read. However I never promoted myself as fun to read or out to amuse everyone.
Mana's is.[/quote]
I never said I was a gimmick and I never promoted myself as one. But in all honesty Mana is a nice person and he's very passionate about what he likes. When did that honestly become a bad trait? I'll agree that Mana is fun to read. However I never promoted myself as fun to read or out to amuse everyone.
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Well that's just sad then, really.
Why would you go about typing such absurd and ridiculously biased things, if not to entertain and mock?
Why would you go about typing such absurd and ridiculously biased things, if not to entertain and mock?
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[quote name='jer7583']Well that's just sad then, really.
Why would you go about typing such absurd and ridiculously biased things, if not to entertain and mock?[/quote]
Because it's true for the most part. A 360 breaks down as fast as an American car from the 70s. And the fact that Microsoft gave a three month warranty from 2005 to a good amount of 2006 on these shit burgers is even more offensive. Then blaming customers for it breaking and charging 250 for a repair? That's also another reason. Oh how about the disc scratching which could have been avoided with 50 cents of rubber?
There's a lot to hate about their product as they just ignored any warnings about it messing up on the assembly line and screwed customers to save fifty cents on rubber to pad the thing so it wouldn't lacerate your discs.
THAT is what pisses me off because otherwise they did a lot of things right.
Why would you go about typing such absurd and ridiculously biased things, if not to entertain and mock?[/quote]
Because it's true for the most part. A 360 breaks down as fast as an American car from the 70s. And the fact that Microsoft gave a three month warranty from 2005 to a good amount of 2006 on these shit burgers is even more offensive. Then blaming customers for it breaking and charging 250 for a repair? That's also another reason. Oh how about the disc scratching which could have been avoided with 50 cents of rubber?
There's a lot to hate about their product as they just ignored any warnings about it messing up on the assembly line and screwed customers to save fifty cents on rubber to pad the thing so it wouldn't lacerate your discs.
THAT is what pisses me off because otherwise they did a lot of things right.
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[quote name='Sarang01']Great writing! 
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I'm taking this all in from the bleachers and even I heard that one whoosh over your head.
[/quote]I'm taking this all in from the bleachers and even I heard that one whoosh over your head.
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[quote name='Paco']Because it's true for the most part. A 360 breaks down as fast as an American car from the 70s. And the fact that Microsoft gave a three month warranty from 2005 to a good amount of 2006 on these shit burgers is even more offensive. Then blaming customers for it breaking and charging 250 for a repair? That's also another reason. Oh how about the disc scratching which could have been avoided with 50 cents of rubber?
There's a lot to hate about their product as they just ignored any warnings about it messing up on the assembly line and screwed customers to save fifty cents on rubber to pad the thing so it wouldn't lacerate your discs.
THAT is what pisses me off because otherwise they did a lot of things right.[/QUOTE]
I know, It makes me sad too. I feel so guilty when I play Super Turbo, just thinking about all those poor souls who lost their lives because of Microsoft's incompetence.
DAMN YOU BILL
DAMN YOU TO HELL
There's a lot to hate about their product as they just ignored any warnings about it messing up on the assembly line and screwed customers to save fifty cents on rubber to pad the thing so it wouldn't lacerate your discs.
THAT is what pisses me off because otherwise they did a lot of things right.[/QUOTE]
I know, It makes me sad too. I feel so guilty when I play Super Turbo, just thinking about all those poor souls who lost their lives because of Microsoft's incompetence.
DAMN YOU BILL
DAMN YOU TO HELL
[quote name='Paco']But what about the peasants that can't afford the godly pc required for Crysis?[/QUOTE]
To be fair, a PC is kind of a big investment, monetarily-speaking.
A good Crysis running-rig will run you about $1k. Then add on a monitor, speakers, etc.,
However PCs are investments. I personally believe no home should be w/o a computer. If not for word processing, then at least for free porn. Even peasants deserve their free porn. You can only rewind those VHS copies of Bridge Over the River KY, Bedman And Throbbin, and Sleeping with Seattle so many times...
To be fair, a PC is kind of a big investment, monetarily-speaking.
A good Crysis running-rig will run you about $1k. Then add on a monitor, speakers, etc.,
However PCs are investments. I personally believe no home should be w/o a computer. If not for word processing, then at least for free porn. Even peasants deserve their free porn. You can only rewind those VHS copies of Bridge Over the River KY, Bedman And Throbbin, and Sleeping with Seattle so many times...
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[quote name='carpwrist']To be fair, a PC is kind of a big investment, monetarily-speaking.
A good Crysis running-rig will run you about $1k. Then add on a monitor, speakers, etc.,
However PCs are investments. I personally believe no home should be w/o a computer. If not for word processing, then at least for free porn. Even peasants deserve their free porn. You can only rewind those VHS copies of Bridge Over the River KY, Bedman And Throbbin, and Sleeping with Seattle so many times...[/quote]
You'd be surprised at how many people still don't have PCs. And the people that do get one tend to get the cheapest thing out there. I do agree it's an investment, but if you only intend to surf the internets and write stuff then that 1000+ dollar PC is unneeded.
I have a cheap 400 dollar laptop, but I'm happy with it as it runs Team Fortress 2 and can watch video and surf the internet.
Though I'm conflicted on free porn. Man cannot live on Mpeg porn. WE need to move to the HD Era of porn and have in your face vagina on that 50 inch tv.
A good Crysis running-rig will run you about $1k. Then add on a monitor, speakers, etc.,
However PCs are investments. I personally believe no home should be w/o a computer. If not for word processing, then at least for free porn. Even peasants deserve their free porn. You can only rewind those VHS copies of Bridge Over the River KY, Bedman And Throbbin, and Sleeping with Seattle so many times...[/quote]
You'd be surprised at how many people still don't have PCs. And the people that do get one tend to get the cheapest thing out there. I do agree it's an investment, but if you only intend to surf the internets and write stuff then that 1000+ dollar PC is unneeded.
I have a cheap 400 dollar laptop, but I'm happy with it as it runs Team Fortress 2 and can watch video and surf the internet.
Though I'm conflicted on free porn. Man cannot live on Mpeg porn. WE need to move to the HD Era of porn and have in your face vagina on that 50 inch tv.
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[quote name='jetlag16']Wait until you can afford it? Its not that hard of a concept to grasp.[/quote]
You're familiar with the PC game aren't you? By the time some people get the money to get a great Crysis pc, the Crysis engine is now old and worthless and a new engine with even more power hungry requirements comes out. I honestly used to be in the PC game space from 1995-2003 and I just grew tired of the expensive upgrades. In the long run if you just want to play some casual games, the Console is definitely cheaper. But if you have big needs like photoshop editing, video editing and so forth you'll already have a great gig to play these games anyways.
You're familiar with the PC game aren't you? By the time some people get the money to get a great Crysis pc, the Crysis engine is now old and worthless and a new engine with even more power hungry requirements comes out. I honestly used to be in the PC game space from 1995-2003 and I just grew tired of the expensive upgrades. In the long run if you just want to play some casual games, the Console is definitely cheaper. But if you have big needs like photoshop editing, video editing and so forth you'll already have a great gig to play these games anyways.
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[quote name='Paco']You'd be surprised at how many people still don't have PCs. And the people that do get one tend to get the cheapest thing out there. I do agree it's an investment, but if you only intend to surf the internets and write stuff then that 1000+ dollar PC is unneeded.
I have a cheap 400 dollar laptop, but I'm happy with it as it runs Team Fortress 2 and can watch video and surf the internet.
Though I'm conflicted on free porn. Man cannot live on Mpeg porn. WE need to move to the HD Era of porn and have in your face vagina on that 50 inch tv.[/quote]
Ew, 50 inch vagina?
I have a cheap 400 dollar laptop, but I'm happy with it as it runs Team Fortress 2 and can watch video and surf the internet.
Though I'm conflicted on free porn. Man cannot live on Mpeg porn. WE need to move to the HD Era of porn and have in your face vagina on that 50 inch tv.[/quote]
Ew, 50 inch vagina?
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[quote name='carpwrist']To be fair, a PC is kind of a big investment, monetarily-speaking.[/quote]
[quote name='Paco']I do agree it's an investment, but if you only intend to surf the internets and write stuff then that 1000+ dollar PC is unneeded. [/quote]
A pc is the exact opposite of an investment which means it is a shitty investment.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/investment
[quote name='Paco']I do agree it's an investment, but if you only intend to surf the internets and write stuff then that 1000+ dollar PC is unneeded. [/quote]
A pc is the exact opposite of an investment which means it is a shitty investment.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/investment
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[quote name='jer7583']your rite he shold
Myke has me all wrong. I'm a calm, reasonable sort of person.[/quote]
We'll be the ones who decide that.
Do you argue facts, or do you simply have a preference? You've tried to make both claims. They're separate arguments. You've tried to establish the "factuality" of the PS3's inferiority to the 360, and when called on it, suddenly change your position to say it's your "opinion."
That's cheap, it's pisspoor form, and if you want to continue to argue like that and then think of yourself as something other than a mirror image of TMK in terms of emotional affinity to an electronic device, power to the people. But you aren't. Just because nobody (and I mean NOBODY) has the passionate fervor of TMK to write novellas documenting why his opinion is right and yours is not, that doesn't mean that nobody else has an irrational fixation to their consoles.
Me? I have preferences.
My Wii doesn't get turned on for shit. Should sell it, but I have way too much stuff to sell off in the meantime.
I also (and this is my actual opinion, and not a piss-take) prefer the PS3 to the 360. I like the Bluray player, I like the XMB (I did prefer blades, but I can't
in' stand the NXE save for disc-game installs), I like that it's region free, I like $6 PSX games like Suikoden (and the PS3 folks know my legendary perpetual bitching about the lack of PSX game support on the PSN), and I like its hardware reliability. me sideways, I even like trophies.
But I also like my 360. I like the consistency of XBL integration in games, I and my wife love streaming Netflix, I like the constant stream of content added to their marketplace, I like being able to install games on the HDD, avoiding using the disc drive and dropping load times, I like being able to play most of my Xbox 1 titles on the console, and I like that MS has just as many Xbox Classics for purchase in the XBLM in 1 year as there are PSOne games for sale in the US PSN Store. They're showing Sony who's dragging some seriousing ass there.
The only issue for me comes with multiplatform games. I will, by default, buy them on the PS3 unless the 360 version has DLC that (1) I want, and (2) is unavailable elsewhere. That's it. And that's simply a byproduct of going through 3 (on my 4th) 360 consoles. No more, no less. I don't plan on writing death threats to MS for the 360's architecture. But I do somewhat resent that I feel I can't put so many hours into the system for fear of breaking it. As a result, I buy my multiplatform titles on the PS3, by and large (probably 4-6 PS3 multiplatform PS3 titles for every 1 360).
Exclusives? That's one area where I don't give a flying. Gears of War? Uncharted? Where's Mass Effect going to go? Couldn't ing care less. I have all 3, so I'll go where they go.
Myke has me all wrong. I'm a calm, reasonable sort of person.[/quote]
We'll be the ones who decide that.
Do you argue facts, or do you simply have a preference? You've tried to make both claims. They're separate arguments. You've tried to establish the "factuality" of the PS3's inferiority to the 360, and when called on it, suddenly change your position to say it's your "opinion."
That's cheap, it's pisspoor form, and if you want to continue to argue like that and then think of yourself as something other than a mirror image of TMK in terms of emotional affinity to an electronic device, power to the people. But you aren't. Just because nobody (and I mean NOBODY) has the passionate fervor of TMK to write novellas documenting why his opinion is right and yours is not, that doesn't mean that nobody else has an irrational fixation to their consoles.
Me? I have preferences.
My Wii doesn't get turned on for shit. Should sell it, but I have way too much stuff to sell off in the meantime.
I also (and this is my actual opinion, and not a piss-take) prefer the PS3 to the 360. I like the Bluray player, I like the XMB (I did prefer blades, but I can't
in' stand the NXE save for disc-game installs), I like that it's region free, I like $6 PSX games like Suikoden (and the PS3 folks know my legendary perpetual bitching about the lack of PSX game support on the PSN), and I like its hardware reliability. me sideways, I even like trophies. But I also like my 360. I like the consistency of XBL integration in games, I and my wife love streaming Netflix, I like the constant stream of content added to their marketplace, I like being able to install games on the HDD, avoiding using the disc drive and dropping load times, I like being able to play most of my Xbox 1 titles on the console, and I like that MS has just as many Xbox Classics for purchase in the XBLM in 1 year as there are PSOne games for sale in the US PSN Store. They're showing Sony who's dragging some serious
ing ass there.The only issue for me comes with multiplatform games. I will, by default, buy them on the PS3 unless the 360 version has DLC that (1) I want, and (2) is unavailable elsewhere. That's it. And that's simply a byproduct of going through 3 (on my 4th) 360 consoles. No more, no less. I don't plan on writing death threats to MS for the 360's architecture. But I do somewhat resent that I feel I can't put so many hours into the system for fear of breaking it. As a result, I buy my multiplatform titles on the PS3, by and large (probably 4-6 PS3 multiplatform PS3 titles for every 1 360).
Exclusives? That's one area where I don't give a flying
. Gears of War? Uncharted? Where's Mass Effect going to go? Couldn't ing care less. I have all 3, so I'll go where they go.[quote name='Temporaryscars']
Still, the difference is, you Sony fanboys will defend your company to the death and you take insults directed at Sony and the PS3 as a personal attack. I love the 360, but we're not above admitting that MS sucks dick and the 360 is made with clay and bat shit.
Still, in the end, it has better games, more games and is cheaper.[/QUOTE]
Definitely true, but there are fanboys for all 3 who can't admit the flaws and take criticisms personally.
I love the games on the 360, Xbox Live, the controller, Netflix streaming etc. But I hate Microsoft. I don't like any of the 3 companies much as they've all done shitty things that annoyed me over the years. So I have no loyalty to any of them. From here on out it's one console per generation at most for me and I'll go where the games I want to play are.
It's not a sure thing MS will get my business next generation. They definitely have a leg up with Xbox live and having exlusives I really like in Gears of War and Halo, but I don't buy consoles at launch so it's possible that by the time I'm ready to buy a next gen console the Sony or Nintendo machine could have more games I want to play.
I'll just never understand why people don't just buy the console(s) that have the games they want, play the games and shut the up with all this fanboy nonsense and loyalty to giant corporations. I mean I understand it in kids who only have the 1 console their parents bought them, feel jealous of not having the others, and have nothing better to do than bitch about the others on the internet. But most of the people here are Adults, I mean TMK is 26 or 27 or something. It's absurd.
As for PC gaming, I've always hated. Don't like keyboard mouse controls (and if I use a gamepad I might as well play a console). But mainly, I spend so much time on a PC in the office and working at home that I just can't stomach using one for gaming. On top of the upgrading etc. etc. Just not my cup of tea.
Still, the difference is, you Sony fanboys will defend your company to the death and you take insults directed at Sony and the PS3 as a personal attack. I love the 360, but we're not above admitting that MS sucks dick and the 360 is made with clay and bat shit.
Still, in the end, it has better games, more games and is cheaper.[/QUOTE]
Definitely true, but there are fanboys for all 3 who can't admit the flaws and take criticisms personally.
I love the games on the 360, Xbox Live, the controller, Netflix streaming etc. But I hate Microsoft. I don't like any of the 3 companies much as they've all done shitty things that annoyed me over the years. So I have no loyalty to any of them. From here on out it's one console per generation at most for me and I'll go where the games I want to play are.
It's not a sure thing MS will get my business next generation. They definitely have a leg up with Xbox live and having exlusives I really like in Gears of War and Halo, but I don't buy consoles at launch so it's possible that by the time I'm ready to buy a next gen console the Sony or Nintendo machine could have more games I want to play.
I'll just never understand why people don't just buy the console(s) that have the games they want, play the games and shut the
up with all this fanboy nonsense and loyalty to giant corporations. I mean I understand it in kids who only have the 1 console their parents bought them, feel jealous of not having the others, and have nothing better to do than bitch about the others on the internet. But most of the people here are Adults, I mean TMK is 26 or 27 or something. It's absurd.As for PC gaming, I've always hated. Don't like keyboard mouse controls (and if I use a gamepad I might as well play a console). But mainly, I spend so much time on a PC in the office and working at home that I just can't stomach using one for gaming. On top of the upgrading etc. etc. Just not my cup of tea.
Calm down people, t's New Year eve for goodness sake. And picking on TMK is not cool, eating dick is so gay (why you want your manhood to be eaten is beyond me). Sorry, i've issues with TMK's love for Sony too, but i hate to see everybody picking on him.
Be civilized for a sec, what the OP said? Sony is in trouble? Give me a break, it's not like they are in the real estate market, banking field, Ponzi scheme or hell, making cars. Look, if Sony is really in trouble, hell, it will be the beginning of the end. Economy this, recession that, Sony is just one of the many corps in the world suffering from the global financial melt down. As to why Nintendo is not? Well, it doesn't make anything else besides the Wii and DS, duh! MS? No comments... I don't want to go there, i've nothing to say to a company refused a couple of cents to a disc bumper part that prevents scratches to discs... Again, i don't have scratched disc issues, but it's just sad to learn that they did what they did on top of the RRoD stuffs.
Be civilized for a sec, what the OP said? Sony is in trouble? Give me a break, it's not like they are in the real estate market, banking field, Ponzi scheme or hell, making cars. Look, if Sony is really in trouble, hell, it will be the beginning of the end. Economy this, recession that, Sony is just one of the many corps in the world suffering from the global financial melt down. As to why Nintendo is not? Well, it doesn't make anything else besides the Wii and DS, duh! MS? No comments... I don't want to go there, i've nothing to say to a company refused a couple of cents to a disc bumper part that prevents scratches to discs... Again, i don't have scratched disc issues, but it's just sad to learn that they did what they did on top of the RRoD stuffs.
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Be civilized for a sec, what the OP said? Sony is in trouble? Give me a break, it's not like they are in the real estate market, banking field, Ponzi scheme or hell, making cars.[/quote]
Be civilized for a sec, what the OP said? Sony is in trouble? Give me a break, it's not like they are in the real estate market, banking field, Ponzi scheme or hell, making cars.[/quote]
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Not to derail this thread or anything (like that would be possible, lol), but am I the only one a bit disgusted at the fact that these console war threads are generally more popular than threads about games?
These threads feel pointless to me, same tune played again and again....except it's no enjoyable tune. If someone wants your console, they'll go get it. In the meantime you should be satisfied enough with knowing that you're getting enjoyment from your console(s). I'd think people would be convinced to get that particular console if they see genuine enjoyment, rather than elitist views on why their tastes suck.
These threads feel pointless to me, same tune played again and again....except it's no enjoyable tune. If someone wants your console, they'll go get it. In the meantime you should be satisfied enough with knowing that you're getting enjoyment from your console(s). I'd think people would be convinced to get that particular console if they see genuine enjoyment, rather than elitist views on why their tastes suck.
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[quote name='leveskikesko']Not to derail this thread or anything (like that would be possible, lol), but am I the only one a bit disgusted at the fact that these console war threads are generally more popular than threads about games?
These threads feel pointless to me, same tune played again and again....except it's no enjoyable tune. If someone wants your console, they'll go get it. In the meantime you should be satisfied enough with knowing that you're getting enjoyment from your console(s). I'd think people would be convinced to get that particular console if they see genuine enjoyment, rather than elitist views on why their tastes suck.[/quote]
Agreed.
I guess these things happen because of the natural human instinct to be in some kind of "war". Conflict and the need for constant danger is in our blood. Thats why we play games and read console war threads lol.
These threads feel pointless to me, same tune played again and again....except it's no enjoyable tune. If someone wants your console, they'll go get it. In the meantime you should be satisfied enough with knowing that you're getting enjoyment from your console(s). I'd think people would be convinced to get that particular console if they see genuine enjoyment, rather than elitist views on why their tastes suck.[/quote]
Agreed.
I guess these things happen because of the natural human instinct to be in some kind of "war". Conflict and the need for constant danger is in our blood. Thats why we play games and read console war threads lol.
[quote name='leveskikesko']Not to derail this thread or anything (like that would be possible, lol), but am I the only one a bit disgusted at the fact that these console war threads are generally more popular than threads about games?
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I don't mind them a lot because i like to argue and discuss the industry stuff--great time waster at work.
But I would like to see more discussion of games. But there is a good bit of that in the console specific forums. This general gaming forum is really pretty pointless as it just lends itself to these types of discussions as all the game talk is in the console threads.
A site really needs just one general forum (like NeoGAF) or just a bunch of console forums without a general. I think I'd prefer the latter as there'd probably be less fanboy nonsense as long as the mods allowed no mention of other consoles in the console specific areas.
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I don't mind them a lot because i like to argue and discuss the industry stuff--great time waster at work.
But I would like to see more discussion of games. But there is a good bit of that in the console specific forums. This general gaming forum is really pretty pointless as it just lends itself to these types of discussions as all the game talk is in the console threads.
A site really needs just one general forum (like NeoGAF) or just a bunch of console forums without a general. I think I'd prefer the latter as there'd probably be less fanboy nonsense as long as the mods allowed no mention of other consoles in the console specific areas.
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[quote name='dmaul1114']I don't mind them a lot because i like to argue and discuss the industry stuff--great time waster at work.
But I would like to see more discussion of games. But there is a good bit of that in the console specific forums. This general gaming forum is really pretty pointless as it just lends itself to these types of discussions as all the game talk is in the console threads.
A site really needs just one general forum (like NeoGAF) or just a bunch of console forums without a general. I think I'd prefer the latter as there'd probably be less fanboy nonsense as long as the mods allowed no mention of other consoles in the console specific areas.[/quote]
I can kind of agree with that. As great as this community is, it's almost too organized. This place would benefit from less forums. I could see the appeal of a lot of forums, but there simply aren't enough people to make it as enjoyable as they should be. Sure, fanboy stuff would arise more often, but on the other hand it might be more interesting to get the gamers mixed up. I personally don't have the time to dissect the community, so I mainly stick with this forum. Maybe it wouldn't work out, but it would be a nice experiment at least.
But I would like to see more discussion of games. But there is a good bit of that in the console specific forums. This general gaming forum is really pretty pointless as it just lends itself to these types of discussions as all the game talk is in the console threads.
A site really needs just one general forum (like NeoGAF) or just a bunch of console forums without a general. I think I'd prefer the latter as there'd probably be less fanboy nonsense as long as the mods allowed no mention of other consoles in the console specific areas.[/quote]
I can kind of agree with that. As great as this community is, it's almost too organized. This place would benefit from less forums. I could see the appeal of a lot of forums, but there simply aren't enough people to make it as enjoyable as they should be. Sure, fanboy stuff would arise more often, but on the other hand it might be more interesting to get the gamers mixed up. I personally don't have the time to dissect the community, so I mainly stick with this forum. Maybe it wouldn't work out, but it would be a nice experiment at least.
I like the console specific forums personally. I don't read NeoGAF just because it's too much crap in one place. I only have a 360 and DS and really only play the 360 most of the time so I have no interest in sifting through a bunch of Sony and Nintendo threads to find the few that interest me. And little patience for all the fanboy nonsense (other than arguing with them to watch them get all pissed off over video games which is entertaining on a slow day at work ).
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Yeah I like it too, but I also see the positives in less forums. I think some potentially interesting topics aren't created due to so many forums. I guess I don't know what I want, lol.
What I do know is that I want less of these threads please.
What I do know is that I want less of these threads please.
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