Sony Playstation Home - Gen. Discussion & Info - Open Beta Available Now

Must say I am very impressed, assuming everything works out as promised. Schedule is about in line with when I planned on getting a PS3.

My only major concern is that purchasing items/clothes/furniture could be the big downfall of the "fun" factor of the world. If purchases are made with points earned from games and whatnot, then I'm game. If each chair is a buck or two...not so much.
 
Sony has hinted that like in that second life thing, you'll be using real money for the extras.

This is a good conept, I think it'll add something more to my PS3 experience, which hasn't been all roses thus far, but what launch has? PS3 really has nowhere to go but up, and I think they have a true chance to surpass Xbox Live with this concept, but only time will tell.


Also, something called Little Big Planet is coming as I guess a part of this, it'll cost according to CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/fun.games/03/07/sony.home.ps3.reut/index.html


As for the achievement point, I think it's like a big whose got the biggest contest. I don't mind them, but I don't go out of my way to get them, just look at my score. I play the game to the end and that's about it. I don't care if they add one, but I wouldn't have my feelings hurt if Playstation didn't go near the concept.
 
Playstation Home is much more than I ever expected... Like I said before.. it's basically a free online game.
 
I was going to post this in the GDC thread, but it's over so we can let it die out. Enjoy this long winded post:

Anyway, I was just in class and it was boring as shit, so I thought about Home, Little Big World, and "accessibility" in this gen. For months, we've all heard about how the Wii is for everyone, the big blue ocean strategy, etc. But, as we all know, the Wii also kind of mired in the last gen, performance-wise. For me, this is a problem. It's simple, which is nice, but to attract people, I feel that the product doesn't necessarily need to be simple. There's a point where it just feels dumbed down. Yes, the Wii feels a bit dumbed down to me, even on the level of fun...everybody has fun with Wii sports, my whole family enjoys it, but I'm only happy that they're happy when they play it--I don't necessarily enjoy Wii sports. It's great but it's like Nintendo just wants everyone in on it. Like that friend who invites every last person to the party, they mean well, but you don't necessarily enjoy the results. The Wii shuns the non-nintendo-diehard hardcore gamer in a way, aside from the obvious games like Zelda.

On a side note, XBLA is clearly for males 18-30 or whatever the demographic is, so it hardly bears mentioning. It's looking for the kind of hardcore gamer that's into FPS, action games in general, while throwing a bone to some casual gamers. But I can't imagine owning a 360 as a casual gamer and being satisfied with the XBLA offerings. They said that XBL will appeal to everyone at E3 (velocity girl) but that's just not going to happen. What they offer isn't enough, though it's great.

I'm not saying the Wii and 360 failed to do anything. Their strengths will warrant owning both of them eventually, but I think Home meets this whole interactive, social OS idea in the middle--it's the MMO/Sims set up that millions of people are already familiarized with, it's fully customizable, which will undoubtedly drag a lot of people in, and it's just beautiful to look at. You have casual fun games like pool and bowling (probably more) and you can hop into a casual game like Little Big World with your friends. or you can take it a step further and hop into a full featured "gamer's game." You can watch a movie or listen to music with other people online, or just sit there and talk. whatever, I doubt how much I personally will use this stuff, but all these little things will add up to a large number of people enjoying it. Don't even get me started on Singstar. I think 1Up said it right when they said it would "print money."

If that isn't highly accessible, I don't know what is. It excludes some people, like the controller impaired, but in general, I think the sleek Home set up will lure a lot of people in.

The best part-- it has features that will attract more casual players without selling short the more experienced gamers and people looking for a next gen experience.

So what we have now isn't just a game/blu-ray player with some weak online offerings. I might be wrong, but I think Sony nailed it this gen. The only thing that'll hold them back is the price tag ;) oh and watch the microtransactions.
 
Wow... playstation home is really nice... Sony really have somethingin their hand now. Although, I'm not sure how they could implemented it succesfully. This is how they should (and they seem to be) do for the next gen gaming. This stuff really is revolutionary (whether it would be succesful is another story.... ) the possibily of home are endless.... i suspect it will be succesful (making money) a few years.. but it's a good start. Somehow, I think with announcement of Home, Microsoft Live service get affected the most....... Sony and Microsoft seem to be going strongly toward another directions and Nintendo are still focus on 'pure' videogaming experience... interesting time period we have here.
nice job Sony!
 
I feel like soon, im going to be playing a game where I play a Character I created while he plays a game...

Is next next gen going to be me playing a character that is playing a game of a character that is playing a game?
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']I feel like soon, im going to be playing a game where I play a Character I created while he plays a game...

Is next next gen going to be me playing a character that is playing a game of a character that is playing a game?[/QUOTE]


post-modernism mo-fo, do you speak it? ;)
 
I'm intrigued by PlayStation Home, I have to say...it doesn't do anything particularly innovative, but it takes the interesting bits from Second Life and Xbox Live and makes a fairly nice, comprehensive world. Problem I foresee: navigating between peoples "personal spaces". Also that, like Second Life, it will get really old, really fast. And, in a worst case scenario, that Sony doesn't mandate that developers integrate with Home. As it is, would it be possible to integrate game requests for games like Resistance that are out well before Home launches? Will trophies be in every game? The nice thing about XBL is that features like these have to be in every title, whereas it is unclear if Sony plans to ensure that their new virtual world is utilized properly. After all, it isn't like Sony announced that, with Home, the "developers do what they want" system of online will now be unified under Sony.
 
[quote name='alongx']I'm intrigued by PlayStation Home, I have to say...it doesn't do anything particularly innovative, but it takes the interesting bits from Second Life and Xbox Live and makes a fairly nice, comprehensive world. Problem I foresee: navigating between peoples "personal spaces". Also that, like Second Life, it will get really old, really fast. And, in a worst case scenario, that Sony doesn't mandate that developers integrate with Home. As it is, would it be possible to integrate game requests for games like Resistance that are out well before Home launches? Will trophies be in every game? The nice thing about XBL is that features like these have to be in every title, whereas it is unclear if Sony plans to ensure that their new virtual world is utilized properly. After all, it isn't like Sony announced that, with Home, the "developers do what they want" system of online will now be unified under Sony.[/QUOTE]


great point. if there's a dark underbelly to this whole thing, it's that. we'll have to see. on the other hand, maybe devs will take to it on their own.

I just can't imagine how much R+D went into this, how much it cost, and only to have sony let it dry up quickly.
 
Good Sony.. goooooood SONY!

This looks kida cool.

It could possibly suck, but so far at least it's a mash-up that no one else has done yet.

Just as long as it's not too '2nd Life-y'
 
It's very ambitious of Sony, but I'm a bit concerned about the bandwidth limitations on getting this to run smoothly.

Actulally the whole trailer reminded me of the Phantasy star online I & II Lobbies
 
[quote name='Greetard']That's pretty cool- taking the best of both of their competitor's online worlds and what-not. Just another reason to get one after a serious price drop. I'm glad that Sony is finally starting to do things right.[/QUOTE]

Actually, to me that just says to go pick up the competitor's products at an ALREADY cheaper price because they're doing things right.

I don't know what else Sony can steal. Maybe put a circular "blue" ring of light on their system that blinks red when not working? Maybe create a game called "Valo" with its main hero "Super Chief"?
 
[quote name='mmn']Actually, to me that just says to go pick up the competitor's products at an ALREADY cheaper price because they're doing things right.

I don't know what else Sony can steal. Maybe put a circular "blue" ring of light on their system that blinks red when not working? Maybe create a game called "Valo" with its main hero "Super Chief"?[/quote]

I think you need to stop crying because sony came out with something good and you are mad because you know it is awesome.
 
[quote name='Zoglog']It's very ambitious of Sony, but I'm a bit concerned about the bandwidth limitations on getting this to run smoothly.

Actulally the whole trailer reminded me of the Phantasy star online I & II Lobbies[/quote]

Thats what I initially thought of as well. There better bet one-click muting :)

I would imagine that you can have your home in certain areas, and then travel to others. Themed regions would be very cool as well. Perhaps renaissanse, futuristic, cartooney, etc for all types of gamers.
 
[quote name='mmn']Actually, to me that just says to go pick up the competitor's products at an ALREADY cheaper price because they're doing things right.

I don't know what else Sony can steal. Maybe put a circular "blue" ring of light on their system that blinks red when not working? Maybe create a game called "Valo" with its main hero "Super Chief"?[/quote]


The whole reason we like competition is that it forces companies to make better products, Sony took the best features besides exclusive games and topped it with psn home
 
[quote name='mmn']Actually, to me that just says to go pick up the competitor's products at an ALREADY cheaper price because they're doing things right.

I don't know what else Sony can steal. Maybe put a circular "blue" ring of light on their system that blinks red when not working? Maybe create a game called "Valo" with its main hero "Super Chief"?[/QUOTE]


they should change the name to PS Thwii Sixty.

after all, they're taking the best of the other guys and combining it into one :p


(besides the Wii remote...nothing could replace that I guess.)


meh, jabs aside, we'll see.
 
[quote name='panasonic']The whole reason we like competition is that it forces companies to make better products, Sony took the best features besides exclusive games and topped it with psn home[/QUOTE]

Well, they've done something at least. I'm not sure if this is topping anything (it all depends on if you like this sort of MMO interface), but competition is indeed great.

Does PS3 home bring me closer to rebuying a PS3? No, it really doesn't, but a lot of people seem to be digging it so they've struck a chord somewhere.
 
[quote name='panasonic']The whole reason we like competition is that it forces companies to make better products, Sony took the best features besides exclusive games and topped it with psn home[/QUOTE]

I could take a crappy stapler, a crappy tape dispenser, and a crappy calculator and combine them together to make one device. In the end, each thing would still be, y'know, crappy.
 
meh...proof is in the pudding. let's see how they integrate home relative to their overall network design and interface. live is annoying enough, but now we have 3d avatars to run around and bug the shit out of you...not to mention the weirdos
 
[quote name='mmn']I could take a crappy stapler, a crappy tape dispenser, and a crappy calculator and combine them together to make one device. In the end, each thing would still be, y'know, crappy.[/QUOTE]


so you're saying you hate all the current gen systems? interesting.... :whistle2:k
 
[quote name='Apossum']so you're saying you hate all the current gen systems? interesting.... :whistle2:k[/quote]

thats what i got from him called everything crappy and combined it
 
[quote name='mmn']Actually, to me that just says to go pick up the competitor's products at an ALREADY cheaper price because they're doing things right.

I don't know what else Sony can steal. Maybe put a circular "blue" ring of light on their system that blinks red when not working? Maybe create a game called "Valo" with its main hero "Super Chief"?[/quote]

Did you even read what the Home is? They are doing some things with it that the other companies are not.

I was impressed by the what I saw, but it'll be really hard to build a community to interact with, given that not everyone can afford a PS3.
 
[quote name='Apossum']so you're saying you hate all the current gen systems? interesting.... :whistle2:k[/QUOTE]

Nah. I'm saying Sony's copies will be crappy. I'm just amazed how people keep buying into this shit. Sony plays up something HUGE, people get excited, and it turns out to be about HALF as cool as Sony claimed it would be. And it happens with a new product every year, yet people still buy into it.

But whatever. If I spent $600 + on a new system, I'd be trying to spin this as the greatest thing since porn too.
 
[quote name='mmn']Nah. I'm saying Sony's copies will be crappy. I'm just amazed how people keep buying into this shit. Sony plays up something HUGE, people get excited, and it turns out to be about HALF as cool as Sony claimed it would be. And it happens with a new product every year, yet people still buy into it.

But whatever. If I spent $600 + on a new system, I'd be trying to spin this as the greatest thing since porn too.[/quote]

Nah your basically saying your a 360 fanboy
 
[quote name='mmn']Nah. I'm saying Sony's copies will be crappy. I'm just amazed how people keep buying into this shit. Sony plays up something HUGE, people get excited, and it turns out to be about HALF as cool as Sony claimed it would be. And it happens with a new product every year, yet people still buy into it.

But whatever. If I spent $600 + on a new system, I'd be trying to spin this as the greatest thing since porn too.[/QUOTE]



yeah sometimes I make rash judgments before I've experienced something too
 
[quote name='mmn']Nah. I'm saying Sony's copies will be crappy. I'm just amazed how people keep buying into this shit. Sony plays up something HUGE, people get excited, and it turns out to be about HALF as cool as Sony claimed it would be. And it happens with a new product every year, yet people still buy into it.

But whatever. If I spent $600 + on a new system, I'd be trying to spin this as the greatest thing since porn too.[/QUOTE]

Noone's trying to spin it that way. It's just an encouraging step towards Sony building as cohesive a community as Xbox Live has (and even more so, if no problems surface).

Sure, there could be a lot of problems (navigating, bandwidth, etc), but if Sony can iron them out, they've got themselves a great community tool right here.

They are finally giving the PS3 online some compelling features - ones that Live doesn't have!

(and before you come up with some accusation/rebuttal, I am not a sony fanboy. Don't even own a PS3. Just a 360/Wii)
 
Ugh I hate game Videos.... I dont know if its because my internet is sucking hard, or what... but my god, I cant watch any video without it stuttering or freezing in the middle..

Ugh. I want to see all these videos.

When the fuck is someone going to redo the internet so it isnt so goddamn slow?
 
[quote name='mmn']But whatever. If I spent $600 + on a new system, I'd be trying to spin this as the greatest thing since porn too.[/QUOTE]

I could just as easily say that you being here and downplaying Home is because you spent $400 + on your 360 and trying to bash the competition to justify your purchase. I'm not saying that is the case, as it probably isn't, but you just have to realize how ridiculous you sound when you are surprised that people on the PS3 board are actually talking positively about the PS3. You may think they are trying to justify the $600 by 'spinning' everything as the greatest thing since porn. That may be the case with some people. But, as crazy as it sounds, some people might actually LIKE their PS3 as well as things like Home.
 
[quote name='mmn']Nah. I'm saying Sony's copies will be crappy. I'm just amazed how people keep buying into this shit. Sony plays up something HUGE, people get excited, and it turns out to be about HALF as cool as Sony claimed it would be. And it happens with a new product every year, yet people still buy into it.

But whatever. If I spent $600 + on a new system, I'd be trying to spin this as the greatest thing since porn too.[/quote]
Why $600+?

Why not $499?

I hate when people fiddle around with the PS3 price. Like they state it in Canadian dollars, or they say the console price + a game + a controller.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Why $600+?

Why not $499?

I hate when people fiddle around with the PS3 price. Like they state it in Canadian dollars, or they say the console price + a game + a controller.[/QUOTE]

Maybe he wants the extra 40 GB's and Wireless built in. If I were to buy a PS3 it would be the $600.00 version. I need that wireless.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Ugh I hate game Videos.... I dont know if its because my internet is sucking hard, or what... but my god, I cant watch any video without it stuttering or freezing in the middle..

Ugh. I want to see all these videos.

When the fuck is someone going to redo the internet so it isnt so goddamn slow?[/QUOTE]

Maybe you should get it from the OP link then =p It's higher quality anyway -_-.....................

Anyway I love how fanboys on both sides of the aisles are crying out at each other. What a bunch of tools all around.

Either way It looks ok to me and somewhat interesting. It's definetly a step above the competition for what you get for free from a console. The main factor now is how well the whole thing is implemented. It'd be fun to poke around but I'm not sure if it would have convinced me to buy the PS3. The original reasons still stand since it was a Cheap Blu-ray player and I got a snazzy game console with it.
 
Yawn...

Good idea but this is not my cup of tea. Are we playing the Sims now on the ps3? I don't want to spend hours creating a character on "Home", I rather play the Sims or something like that.


What I want is a nice official wireless Sony bluetooth headset made just for the ps3...
 
[quote name='oasisboy']
What I want is a nice official wireless Sony bluetooth headset made just for the ps3...[/QUOTE]

You do realize that any bluetooth headset works just fine with the ps3 and is practically free nowadays......................................

Or would you prefer to overpay like I had to do with my Microsoft Wireless headset ($70) and it doesn't even work properly?
 
Yea, I'm not sure why you wan't an 'official' one. Chances are, it won't be any different than the hundreds that are already out there.
 
[quote name='dpatel']Yea, I'm not sure why you wan't an 'official' one. Chances are, it won't be any different than the hundreds that are already out there.[/QUOTE]

Actually that's not entirely correct. The difference is they will charge more for it. Why do you think all of MS' Wireless Accessories are proprietary. It's the best monopoly ever ;)

But the one thing Sony (Proprietary whore) does right which is very un Sonyish (HDMI port + bluetooth).... and people still bitch about it.
 
yea. I was actually extremely surprised to learn that we are pretty much open to use any accessories we want on the PS3 (even the HDD). Considering the PS2 had tons of proprietary accessories (network adapter, multitap, memory card).

Sony definitely got it right this gen. Hopefully this trend catches on.
 
[quote name='Zoglog']You do realize that any bluetooth headset works just fine with the ps3 and is practically free nowadays......................................[/quote]

Feel free to make recommendations because I don't know which headset to buy. I keep reading reviews on amazon.com and for one reason or another people complain about all bluetooth headsets.

Free? please provide links to these "cheap" bluetooth headsets... :)
 
I just know that, no matter what, a lot of people feel better with "an offical" label slapped on something even if they could save a lot of money for other products that work just as well or better.
 
[quote name='oasisboy']Feel free to make recommendations because I don't know which headset to buy. I keep reading reviews on amazon.com and for one reason or another people complain about all bluetooth headsets.

Free? please provide links to these "cheap" bluetooth headsets... :)[/QUOTE]

I don't really know too much about bluetooth headsets, but if Sony were to release an 'official' one, it wouldn't automatically make it better than the rest.

Maybe you could make a topic asking for bluetooth headset impressions. I'm sure more people are more knowledgeable on the subject that I am.
 
[quote name='oasisboy']Feel free to make recommendations because I don't know which headset to buy. I keep reading reviews on amazon.com and for one reason or another people complain about all bluetooth headsets.

Free? please provide links to these "cheap" bluetooth headsets... :)[/QUOTE]

Free? Just look around the net. There are ton for free after rebate or if you get a cellphone, or heck I got one from my company. I have like 2 bluetooth headsets just lying around I don't use. The one I use for the ps3 is a Motorola HS850 and it works fine and is more comfortable than the "official" 360 one which cost $70 which I can ONLY use for the 360 (and PC if I bought the wireless accessory adapter). Whereas my bluetooth headset will work with any device and it only cost me $20........................ a year ago.
 
[quote name='Zoglog']Free? Just look around the net. There are ton for free after rebate or if you get a cellphone, or heck I got one from my company. I have like 2 bluetooth headsets just lying around I don't use. The one I use for the ps3 is a Motorola HS850 and it works fine and is more comfortable than the "official" 360 one which cost $70 which I can ONLY use for the 360 (and PC if I bought the wireless accessory adapter). Whereas my bluetooth headset will work with any device and it only cost me $20........................ a year ago.[/QUOTE]

Why do you keep saying the 360 headset cost $70? It launched at $60 and you can find it for under $50 now.
 
Yawn.

I have a Wii....and have Mii's but never use them for anything. I know I can do prades and what now...but why?

This home thing sounds pretty cool, but I don't think a ton of people will actually take advantage of it at this point. $500-$600 for a system is alot, and I would think most PS3's would be owned by adults who have no interest in this (unless they want to meet younger kids...). When it comes out I will download it since its free but will most likley never use it. I'd much rather have all these options on my PS3 menu instead of in some little 'game'.
 
[quote name='shipwreck']Why do you keep saying the 360 headset cost $70? It launched at $60 and you can find it for under $50 now.[/quote]

Launch price plus tax.

BT headsets are cheap.
I need a headset with a boom on it so I don't spam the game with all the ambient sounds, I think I'm just going to find a cheap used USB one made for PS2.
 
[quote name='dpatel']yea. I was actually extremely surprised to learn that we are pretty much open to use any accessories we want on the PS3 (even the HDD). Considering the PS2 had tons of proprietary accessories (network adapter, multitap, memory card).

Sony definitely got it right this gen. Hopefully this trend catches on.[/QUOTE]

I'll agree with that! We can put our own HDD's in, we can use out own Blue Tooth headsets...pretty cool and surprising.
 
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