The "10/14/10 - The Worst Hour Of Impact, No, Wrestling Ever" Wrestling Thread

[quote name='mykevermin']^ wh'appen?[/QUOTE]

Ref bump; Nexus interference; Cena takes out Nexus to "ensure Barrett doesn't get disqualified" as the ref awakens; Orton gets ready to nail the RKO; Cena comes in and hits the AA on Barrett; Barrett wins by DQ.
 
So Cena attacks Barret to make him win. :|

And nobody wants to help Undertaker? I'm pretty sure he's running out of air down there.
 
I was under the impression that Cena would be 'fired' if Barrett didn't win the belt.

If it was just win the match, why wouldn't Cena attack him the moment the match started?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I was under the impression that Cena would be 'fired' if Barrett didn't win the belt.

If it was just win the match, why wouldn't Cena attack him the moment the match started?[/QUOTE]
obviously to prevent the raw gm from blinking the lights and adding a new rule
 
[quote name='mykevermin']^ wh'appen?[/QUOTE]


--John Cena clears our Nexus after Nexus attacks Randy Orton, and says he had to otherwise Wade Barrett would have lost by disqualification.

--Orton is about to finish Barrett with his poor man's Ace crusher when Cena runs into the ring and hits Barrett with his poor man's Death Valley bomb. This way, Barrett gets the victory Cena needs to "remain a WWE employee." Cena gives Orton a "you know this had to happen look."

--Orton is upset that he lost, and uses the RKO on Cena, then, much later, Barrett.

This fits the "2010 Survivor Series Screw Job" idea. :)
 
My guess (or really what I think would work - these are never the same thing)? Cena jumps in front of a punt intended for Barrett at Survivor Series (or Orton just does one to him to put him out of his misery) he leaves to do his movie, comes back and then turns when Nexus is at its weakest.
 
Put me down for an 'I don't care'. This was the wrong move for tonight, as it accomplished nothing for Barrett, who is smart enough to realize he needed to say 'title', and it gave away Cena attacking him too early.

Anyway, there needs to be a new edict that only one world title match per PPV can have a screwy finish. Tonight was lazy booking... 'hey, how we getting out of these ones? Ah, fuck it, just toss Nexus out there. Problem solved.'

Bah.
 
Tonight is an example of how pro wrestling promotions make more money with their TV deals and think about their PPVs as an afterthought.
 
[quote name='diddy310']My guess (or really what I think would work - these are never the same thing)? Cena jumps in front of a punt intended for Barrett at Survivor Series (or Orton just does one to him to put him out of his misery) he leaves to do his movie, comes back and then turns when Nexus is at its weakest.[/QUOTE]


That is the most likely result. I just have no faith in WWE to successfully extend this part of the Nexus story for any additional time.
 
You know what's annoying? The fact that, due to him putting me on ignore years ago, Chase ends up repeating things I say in this thread all the time.

In all, a good PPV with a bad finish to the main event, even if it did make sense storyline wise. I'm just worried that, after righting the ship as far as the Nexus storyline is concerned, they'll rush to end it at Survivor Series. But surprisingly, they've been doing almost everything right so far as it pertains to the Nexus and Kane/Undertaker storylines. I'm also not as critical as some people on here, though.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']You know what's annoying? The fact that, due to him putting me on ignore years ago, Chase ends up repeating things I say in this thread all the time.[/QUOTE]

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Here's my thoughts from the PPV live in person:

- I missed whatever dark match there was since I got to my seats a few minutes before the PPV started. At that moment there was a dueling "Lets Go Vikings/Lets Go Packers" chant going on.

- Bryan Danielson was over HUGE. The match was great live. Crowd ate it up.

- Cena as usual draws the most mixed reaction out of the crowd. Sure he got cheered loudly when he came out for the tag match but you'd forget that once the dueling "Lets Go Cena/Cena Sucks" chant starts. Of course the kids ate it up when he won the tag titles and when he STFUed Otunga. I just sat there, shook my head, and wished for lightning to strike Cena so he'd die or something. God I fucking hate Cena.

- Ted vs Goldust... bathroom break to some but at least it was an okay match. Pretty sad when the catfight was the most over thing the entire match... okay Goldust did get some pops but still the catfight was over with the crowd.

- I don't know how it came across on TV but the Laycool comments got mostly boo's except for a small pocket of Packer fans who cheered for them. Match was terrible. Another bathroom break match.

- Taker vs Kane was a good brawl match and thank god it never really tried to be anything other then that. Taker's entrance is surreal in person. I actually thought Taker was going to win since up until getting home after the PPV I wasn't aware he's taking time off again. Of course I knew that even with "we want blood" chants there was no way there would be any of that on a TV-PG show.

- Crowd was indifferent as to RAW or Smackdown winning really. The crowd really cheered for everyone with exceptions of Del Rio (who got a decent amount of heat) and the few "unknowns" as someone put it (ie: Tyler Reks, Ezekel Jackson). Punk was over the most in the match. Really shocked me that the crowd pulled for Punk over Mysterio at one point as well.

Edit: I forgot but at one point during the match CM Punk got into a heated argument with a chick who was halfway across the arena. Funny stuff.

- Crowd was dead for the Orton/Barrett match namely due to being worn out. I did see some families leave during the match however since the kids were scared of Cena turning heel. The "FIRE CENA" chant was funny.

Decent PPV live. Danielson/Ziggler was worth the price of admission right there. The 7 on 7 match was fun as well. I don't know how it came across on TV but in person it was enjoyable.

Spoiler due to size... I'll upload more pictures tomorrow from the PPV.

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Perry Saturn is alive and well - he was backstage at Bragging Rights visiting friends.

I hope they hire him back in some capacity (be it Tough Enough or a trainer position).
 
Ok, this officially makes it the best Smackdown vs Raw game ever.

SPOILERS for Christian's RtWM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RsbWrAdnD4
 
I didn't see anything posted on this, unless this is really old news.. jack swaggers wife has a sex tape out, catalina white
 
It's pretty awesome that Kane won this feud...even if they do have one more match and Undertaker wins, so what? Kane would be 3-1 against him this year. That's pretty definitive. WWE's site refers to that match as their "final battle" but who knows if that means anything. It looks like they were sort of trying to shift Undertaker's attention to Nexus with that ending. And of course from now until February we'll probably hear Brock rumors, no matter how unlikely that is.

Then again, if they're shifting Taker's attention to Nexus, and they do pull the trigger on a Cena heel turn, it could be the first step towards Cena vs. 'Taker at WM.

Who does Kane get matched with next? Please not Big Show. Anyone but Big Show.

LOVE seeing how Danielson still gets big reactions here and there despite his...uh.."awkward" push.
 
Who other than Big Show, then? Who is viewed by the WWE Universe™ as a credible title contender that hasn't already exhausted a feud with Kane (Mysterio), makes for a frightfully bad match on paper (Show), and is a babyface? It could have been Kofi Kingston, but they ruined their attempt to make him when he feuded with Randy Orton late last year (it was that long ago, yes?).

There's also Edge/Kane. I don't know if that one's been done before.
 
[quote name='pimpster4183']I didn't see anything posted on this, unless this is really old news.. jack swaggers wife has a sex tape out, catalina white[/QUOTE]

I remember hearing about this before she ever hooked up with Jack Swagger and I wouldn't call it a sex tape. It's a professional gonzo porn (complete with bangbus style pickup, only 1 scene though)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
There's also Edge/Kane. I don't know if that one's been done before.[/QUOTE]

It happened back in the summer of '07, and it had a great buildup, but the match never happened because Edge got injured and had to relinquish the belt, which of course led to Kali becoming the WHC.
 
I am thinking about picking up SvR '10, but I am not sure about it. Does it control similarly to the N64 wrestling games?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Who other than Big Show, then? Who is viewed by the WWE Universe™ as a credible title contender that hasn't already exhausted a feud with Kane (Mysterio), makes for a frightfully bad match on paper (Show), and is a babyface? It could have been Kofi Kingston, but they ruined their attempt to make him when he feuded with Randy Orton late last year (it was that long ago, yes?).[/QUOTE]Now that he's got the tag belts, John Cena! :bouncy:

[quote name='lombarvm']I am thinking about picking up SvR '10, but I am not sure about it. Does it control similarly to the N64 wrestling games?[/QUOTE]
We wish.
 
Edge/Kane was also kind of done during the weird shoot-becomes-work thing where Kane was playing the Matt Hardy role...until the real Matt Hardy came back to play Matt Hardy.

Not a fan of any of the options for Kane right now...was looking at the roster page and all three of the obvious ones that have been mentioned above (Show, Mysterio, Edge) aren't exactly appealing. Not sure what they can do. A Swagger turn probably wouldn't do much right now, it would take a couple of months to elevate Masters if they even wanted to in the first place. Christian is out with an injury. Kaval? No way they push him that far this fast.

I'd love to see them try to rework Gallows a little bit and turn him into some pissed off vigilante who winds up going after Kane but that's just fantasy booking. Although if they did it, maybe they could redeem themselves from having that weak Kane vs. Kane II match.
 
...wow

Richard Blumenthal, Linda McMahon's primary opposition in the Connecticut Senate race, has brought Michael Benoit, the father of the late Chris Benoit to Hartford, CT today for a speaking appearance before media to discuss Linda McMahon and WWE's treatment of professional wrestlers.

Obviously, the political race is getting nastier by the week.

The Hartford Courant grabbed McMahon for comment on Benoit coming to speak out against her and she responded that his "feelings are bitter, sad ...[he] wants to find an answer and also someone to blame." McMahon also commented that there was never a hint of a problem with Benoit before one of her aides cut off the conversation.
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shit got real


....and this hurts us fans...because the mcmahons are going to now REALLY not release any of chris' work...
 
[quote name='mykevermin']wow @ Blumenthal's tactics or McMahon's hubris? Or both?[/QUOTE]

Both, definitely both. Lust for power will drive people to ridiculous actions.
 
By all polling accounts, he's had the race well in hand. I'm sure he would've pulled this out sooner if he had felt threatened. Seems like a "Second Bullet to the Head" move on Blumenthal's part.
 
[quote name='neocisco']
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Dude, this is like the fifth time you've criticized me for something in these threads for no reason. All I was saying is, it's redundant and it hurts discussion. Not sure why you' keep thread-stalking me.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']Dude, this is like the fifth time you've criticized me for something in these threads for no reason. All I was saying is, it's redundant and it hurts discussion. Not sure why you' keep thread-stalking me.[/QUOTE]

You made a comment, I made a comment, simple as that. As far Chase goes, you seem to be the only that has a problem with it (and the only one who's brought it up, AFAIK) so that hardly qualifies as "hurting discussion". Thread-stalking? I've been in these threads as long as anybody. You're the one keeping a tally so you need to get over whatever it is that's bothering you. If you can't handle criticism then you need to quit the internet. If you feel the need to continue this nonsense, do it in a PM.
 
The opener started off a little slow for me, but man did they pick up the pace. They had some fantastic near-falls, and Danielson hit everything so damned crisply - including a springboard missile dropkick halfway across the ring. He also had some great ways to get out of the sleeper over - blocking one hand, rolling from side to side to make the ropes, and rolling through it, without hurting it since Dolph couldn't win with it. The false finish off the famouser worked perfectly, and it's a shame this wasn't a very important match, because the crowd was really into it and it would have made anything at stake seem important - even if only for one night. The commentary was really good in this match as well.

The tag title match was fine, but Dashingly Sinister doesn't have much chemistry together as a team. Otunga and Cena have less, but at least this puts the titles on a prominent unit. I'm assuming the belts will be Freebird-ruled on Raw and we can get some good Slater/Gabriel matches out of this deal.

Goldust-DiBiase was pretty good, largely due to Goldust, and Nattie-Layla was very good by women's match standards - Nattie busted out some awesome chain wrestling. The rest of the show was just kinda there. The buried alive match was dreadful, but I did enjoy the visual of Bearer trying to hide behind the tombstone, and Nexus interfering sets up Barrett-Taker for 'Mania. The Bragging Rights match was nothing special, and the WWE Title match dragged on until the finish, which was fine story-wise, and prevented Barrett from jobbing, but didn't do much for me otherwise.

Quotes -
Striker - Tonight may be the last waltz in a Graveyard Symphony.
Cole - Vickie just made a cougar sign at me!
Striker - IT WAS TO ME - I’m the youngest and best-looking guy at this table.
King - You can both have her.
(Ride of the Valkyries hits)Cole - OH MY LORD!
King - I bet Dolph puts himself in a sleeper hold before going on a date with Vickie.
Cole - Daniel Bryan’s matches are like a sleeper hold to me.
Striker - What’s your beef with Daniel Bryan?
Cole - I understand he’s the U.S. Champion and the WWE Universe gets behind him, and he’s a submission specialist, I just don’t like the guy.
Striker - Why?
Cole - BECAUSE HE’S A NERD! He’s bland.
King - You’re one to call someone bland.
Cole - I have charisma - look at all the Cole Miners here tonight.
King - I heard Vickie got hit by a car once because the driver didn’t have enough gas to go around her.
Striker - When Vickie jumps, her arms jiggle… JIGGLES AND ZIGGLES!
Striker - Bryan is a master of the small package.
King - And the Cattle Mutilation.
Striker - This is WWE - let’s not forget what the second W stands for. That’s what Daniel Bryan brings.
Cole - I don’t know what your problem is with Vickie, King.
Striker - She’s too old for him.
Cole - When she was 24, she was too old for him.
Cole - DOLPH IS GETTING HIS HEAD KICKED OFF! LITERALLY!
Striker - Well, no - his head is still on…
King - I think Vickie’s about to get her flying monkeys…
Cole - Otunga’s celebrating, but I don’t think he contributed ANYTHING to the match. Then again, he’s been living off people his whole life - why stop now?
Cole - Does Goldust realize it isn’t even a real title?
King - It may not be a real title, but it’s FULL OF DIAMONDS.
Striker - You guys are trying to figure out a man WHO PAINTS HIS FACE GOLD AND DRESSES LIKE AN OSCAR AWARD! He’s bizarre - do not try to figure out Goldust.
Cole - Look at what Maryse just gave me. These things must be worth thousands. I might just pawn them.
Striker - BUTT BUTT!
Crowd - LET’S GO GOLDUST!
(as Maryse and Aksana brawl)Striker - Somewhere, Joey’s screaming CATFIGHT!
Striker - The captain of the ship, the Giant.
King - Wonder what it feels like to be the captain of the Titanic…
Cole - Edge is in serious trouble…
Striker - I’VE GOT MY BOOTS - I’LL LACE ‘EM UP!
Cole - SmackDown wants to win, Matt…
 
[quote name='mykevermin']wow @ Blumenthal's tactics or McMahon's hubris? Or both?[/QUOTE]

a little bit of both but more of the former than the latter
 
I really hope we're not getting Undertaker & Barrett at WM. If 'Taker's going to be gone till January with rotator cuff surgery, nobody's going to remember that Nexus even interfered in the match and their insertion looks like a complete waste since there's almost zero reason for them to get involved. The pyro spot following the "burial" comes off even cheesier than it did 15 years ago, and now Kane's got three straight wins at PPV over 'Taker.

Just awful booking with that one all around, and the fans now are more concerned with fantasy booking UT/Lesnar than they are with the current UT/Kane feud that's been going on for months. Bravo, WWE.
 
[quote name='neocisco']You made a comment, I made a comment, simple as that. As far Chase goes, you seem to be the only that has a problem with it (and the only one who's brought it up, AFAIK) so that hardly qualifies as "hurting discussion". Thread-stalking? I've been in these threads as long as anybody. You're the one keeping a tally so you need to get over whatever it is that's bothering you. If you can't handle criticism then you need to quit the internet. If you feel the need to continue this nonsense, do it in a PM.[/QUOTE]

You didn't make a comment; you posted a picture. It just happens a lot, and you're the only one who does it, which is why I notice it.

Anyway, I wonder what they'll do with Ezekiel Jackson on Raw.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']You didn't make a comment; you posted a picture. It just happens a lot, and you're the only one who does it, which is why I notice it.[/QUOTE]

Potato, potahto. Now stop cluttering the thread. PM's or let it go.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']Anyway, I wonder what they'll do with Ezekiel Jackson on Raw.[/QUOTE]
Hide him in the mid-card and job Zack Ryder to him every couple of weeks.
 
[quote name='JJSP']I really hope we're not getting Undertaker & Barrett at WM. If 'Taker's going to be gone till January with rotator cuff surgery, nobody's going to remember that Nexus even interfered in the match and their insertion looks like a complete waste since there's almost zero reason for them to get involved. The pyro spot following the "burial" comes off even cheesier than it did 15 years ago, and now Kane's got three straight wins at PPV over 'Taker.

Just awful booking with that one all around, and the fans now are more concerned with fantasy booking UT/Lesnar than they are with the current UT/Kane feud that's been going on for months. Bravo, WWE.[/QUOTE]

Well, it's WWE's fault that they ignore the simple brilliance that underlies the tension b/w Lesnar and UT, and instead feed us convoluted bullshit every week.

If I were CaseyRyback, which I ain't, I'd be chidin' you motherfuckers for letting WWE off the hook with that horseshit non-finish to Barrett/Orton. If that same finish happened in TNA, y'all would have attacked it relentlessly. You'd have criticized the PPV that, for the lack of one excellent match (which in TNA would have involved MCMG/Beer Money/Young Bucks), was the drizzling shits.

WWE doesn't know how to do anything remotely real, and now one of their talents got involved in something so deviously simple and compelling that it actually hurts their product - so we'll get more GM and Michael Cole nonsense this week as a reward. And I quote.
 
Dana White already said Brock legally can't wrestle for WWE while under UFC contract, not that I expected anything different.

From WWE.com:

Just 24 hours after a head-turning clash at WWE Bragging Rights, Raw's U.S. Champion Daniel Bryan faces SmackDown's Intercontinental Champion Dolph Ziggler. It happens live tonight on Raw, guest starring country music sensation Toby Keith.
 
I'm gonna be picking up Jericho's book tomorrow at the library. While I'm there, should there be any other books by wrestlers I should look out for?
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']I'm gonna be picking up Jericho's book tomorrow at the library. While I'm there, should there be any other books by wrestlers I should look out for?[/QUOTE]If you haven't read either of the first two Foley books, those.
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']I'm gonna be picking up Jericho's book tomorrow at the library. While I'm there, should there be any other books by wrestlers I should look out for?[/QUOTE]

I'm currently in the middle of Foley Is Good. I definitely second BluSwim's recommendation.
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']I'm gonna be picking up Jericho's book tomorrow at the library. While I'm there, should there be any other books by wrestlers I should look out for?[/QUOTE]
Foley's three books preferably in order as mentioned with everyone else saying it up there.Haven't read the 4th yet but plan to eventually.Bret Hart's book was pretty good although ends a bit in a bitter taste although can't really blame the guy but still a pick up if you see it.Jericho's 2nd book is coming out in about 4 months so its a pretty decent time to read the first one.
 
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