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Welcome to the Steam Deal Thread V2! You can find the V1 thread (2010-July 2011) here. Read post #2 of this thread for Steam FAQs and more.

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[quote name='Jaysonguy']Ehhh, it's only a buck

Plus the narrator came back? It's like they're making sure I never get it lol

Is there a patch to take him out? I would probably be in on the next sale if that was there (or not there, depending)[/QUOTE]

Haha, get it guys? Because he doesn't like the announcer? Haha!
 
So yay, free weekend of Killing Floor and it is currently broken. Search for internet games takes forever and finds none. Glad I didn't buy it outright the numerous times it was on sale.
 
[quote name='Jaysonguy']Plus the narrator came back? It's like they're making sure I never get it lol

Is there a patch to take him out? I would probably be in on the next sale if that was there (or not there, depending)[/QUOTE]

You do realize the narrator (and soundtrack) make up much of the charm this game has, not to mention nearly all of the story is delivered through the narrator. Take those away and you've got a very mediocre and unmemorable hack and slash.
 
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[quote name='crookshow']You do realize the narrator (and soundtrack) make up much of the charm this game has. Take those away and you've got a very mediocre and unmemorable hack and slash.[/QUOTE]

Yeah iv only seen 2 people out of maybe 1,000 say they dislike the narrator.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl']So yay, free weekend of Killing Floor and it is currently broken. Search for internet games takes forever and finds none. Glad I didn't buy it outright the numerous times it was on sale.[/QUOTE]

You're glad you didn't buy it because it happens to be having some issues during the free weekend?

Doesn't make much sense to me and from me actually owning and playing it for two years I know this isn't a recurring issue.
 
This...is...awesome. I was playing a bit last night and kept thinking the gates are a pain. But I intend to finish it...with god mode. I'm just one of those impatient people that want to finish it and don't have a lot of time. I wasn't even going to buy this except that it was so cheap a few weeks ago too.


[quote name='imretarded']Not only is Oblivion an amazing experience, but you can make it so so so much more with a little (actually a lot) of modding. I had never done any PC modding before, but I picked up Oblivion GOTY deluxe last time it was on sale and then I followed everything in this guide:

http://www.somethingfornobody.com/2011/oblivion-modding-guide/

You would not believe the difference it makes. It changes probably about 10,000 things in the game for the better, including removing most or all of the crashing and bugs, making everything look better (much much much better), improving the gameplay in just about every way, and introducing so much variety and other things to make the game more interesting and believable that IMO it is a better buy than Skyrim, even if they were the same price. Of course it doesn't help that they seem to want to destroy Skyrim with each new patch.[/QUOTE]
 
Gah, stop putting Oblivion on sale! It was hard enough not to pick it up the first few times, this is just cruel and unusual. I don't have time, I know I won't ever play it, so why must you taunt me so?!?!

Thank god I really really really can't stand the leveling system, and know that I won't put the time into it to make modding the leveling system out worth it, otherwise I'm sure this would have been bought a while ago.

Still, so very very very tempting.
 
[quote name='Abeja']Think Ill continue to wait on Oblivion. Hoping for a $5 Fallout 3 GOTY[/QUOTE]
I'm gonna pass on Oblivion but I want a cheap Fallout 3 GOTY as well. I was figuring I'd buy it at $10, it was 10 at Direct2Drive yesterday but I'd rather get it from Steam and from what I've heard it'll be easy to eventually find it cheap during one of the Steam sales.
 
Was tempted to get Oblivion, but it seems everyone I know vastly prefers Skyrim over it. It's only $5, but can't help but feel that's $5 better spent on getting Skyrim later down the road, and I'm only kidding myself if I think I have to time to get around to playing both.
 
[quote name='Solid-Snake-Eyes']I'm gonna pass on Oblivion but I want a cheap Fallout 3 GOTY as well. I was figuring I'd buy it at $10, it was 10 at Direct2Drive yesterday but I'd rather get it from Steam and from what I've heard it'll be easy to eventually find it cheap during one of the Steam sales.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I wouldnt be surprised if you see it on sale here soon.
 
[quote name='imretarded']Not only is Oblivion an amazing experience, but you can make it so so so much more with a little (actually a lot) of modding. I had never done any PC modding before, but I picked up Oblivion GOTY deluxe last time it was on sale and then I followed everything in this guide:

http://www.somethingfornobody.com/2011/oblivion-modding-guide/

You would not believe the difference it makes. It changes probably about 10,000 things in the game for the better, including removing most or all of the crashing and bugs, making everything look better (much much much better), improving the gameplay in just about every way, and introducing so much variety and other things to make the game more interesting and believable that IMO it is a better buy than Skyrim, even if they were the same price. Of course it doesn't help that they seem to want to destroy Skyrim with each new patch.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Oblivion + mods = a great RPG. I have to disagree with anyone that does not feel the phenomenal price of $4.99 for the GOTY edition is not worth it, or those that feel Skyrim is so damn good that it renders this obsolete.

[quote name='utopianmachine']It's a good time to own Bastion on Steam.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...tion-39-stranger-39-s-dream-39-announced.aspx

Stranger's Dream is coming to Bastion next week. Steam users get it free while 360 owners have to pay $1.[/QUOTE]

Hell yes! I have it for both platforms, so I am ecstatic to hear that:

- Bastion DLC is coming (didn't even consider it would be for some reason)
- Free on Steam
- A very affordable $1 on XBLA (yes, I will be buying it here as well even with the freebie on Steam)
 
I did not enjoy Oblivion. The city designs are completely nonsensical and extraordinarily frustrating to navigate, especially the central one (Citadel or something?); difficulty was all over the place; the enemies in the wild would follow you for fucking AGES; and the AI for enemies was weird. Plus, the charming system or whatever that is in place to make conversations available if your conversation skill is low is just stupid and tedious. There is a lot to the world, but I didn't want to wade through the crap in my way to enjoy it.
 
As much as I'm tempted to snag Oblivion I just can't bring myself to do that now when I'm enjoying Skyrim. Eventually though.

Man I can't wait for the winter sale. Hope it doesn't disappoint.
 
I'm finding this interesting... now that Skyrim is out, there isn't a lot of backwards-looking love for Oblivion, the way that there was backwards-looking love for Morrowind when Oblivion was released. I think history will prove Oblivion the weakest link of the modern TES games. Despite the amazing mods.
 
Is the Deluxe version of Oblivion a waste? No one seems to mention it. I'm also a little scared off since everyone says Morrowind is way better (which I have the hard copy and haven't played yet haha).
 
[quote name='gcorlett']I'm finding this interesting... now that Skyrim is out, there isn't a lot of backwards-looking love for Oblivion, the way that there was backwards-looking love for Morrowind when Oblivion was released. I think history will prove Oblivion the weakest link of the modern TES games. Despite the amazing mods.[/QUOTE]

Oblivion is terrible compared to Morrowind, Skyrim is a lot more fun, but Morrowind has more content it feels like, but that might be because how overly-complex Morrowind is at times.
 
[quote name='Needles-Kane']Is the Deluxe version of Oblivion a waste? No one seems to mention it. I'm also a little scared off since everyone says Morrowind is way better (which I have the hard copy and haven't played yet haha).[/QUOTE]
If you're buying Oblivion, the Deluxe package is worth the extra couple of bucks.

I get the love people have for Morrowind and Skyrim, but it doesn't make Oblivion a terrible game. Oblivion+mods is really wonderful for fans of the genre. If action/RPG is your thing and Oblivion is at all interesting to you - this is the buy price. It's unlikely to get much cheaper. It will go on sale again, most likely, but if you don't pick it up by Christmas you may be waiting until summer to see it go this low again.
 
[quote name='Needles-Kane']Is the Deluxe version of Oblivion a waste? No one seems to mention it. I'm also a little scared off since everyone says Morrowind is way better (which I have the hard copy and haven't played yet haha).[/QUOTE]

I'd say to go w/ Oblivion - Deluxe GOTY Edition, so you have the 9 DLC's.
Seriously, it's worth the extra $1.24 for all of that content.

Plus, you'll have ALL the official content for Oblivion from BethSoft, if you go Deluxe.
 
Thanks guys, I'll go with the Deluxe. I definitely respect the hardcore-ness of Morrowind, but with my time restraints and that I usually play a mutliplayer game with my wife, it may be a negative for me. Oblivion will probably be too much anyways :)
 
[quote name='gcorlett']I'm finding this interesting... now that Skyrim is out, there isn't a lot of backwards-looking love for Oblivion, the way that there was backwards-looking love for Morrowind when Oblivion was released. I think history will prove Oblivion the weakest link of the modern TES games. Despite the amazing mods.[/QUOTE]

To be fair, Oblivion still isn't a bad game (I've seen a lot of folks on forums calling it crap now, and I think that's a bit much) and some of the mods are fantastic, but still, right out of the gate, it just feels like Skyrim is a much stronger game overall. With mod tools coming out next month, it's only a matter time before the game gets it's own rich modding community as well.

I think ideally, people should check out Oblivion first (with some key mods of course) and then play Skyrim. Not because it's necessary for the plot, but because Oblivion is still a solid RPG and once you play Skyrim, you probably will have a hell of a time trying to go back to Oblivion. But on the flip side, I get people have huge backlogs/lack of time to play 2 fairly lengthy RPG's, and for them, it probably just makes sense to skip Oblivion and go directly to Skyrim.
 
[quote name='pstriple']To be fair, Oblivion still isn't a bad game (I've seen a lot of folks on forums calling it crap now, and I think that's a bit much) and some of the mods are fantastic, but still, right out of the gate, it just feels like Skyrim is a much stronger game overall. With mod tools coming out next month, it's only a matter time before the game gets it's own rich modding community as well.

I think ideally, people should check out Oblivion first (with some key mods of course) and then play Skyrim. Not because it's necessary for the plot, but because Oblivion is still a solid RPG and once you play Skyrim, you probably will have a hell of a time trying to go back to Oblivion. But on the flip side, I get people have huge backlogs/lack of time to play 2 fairly lengthy RPG's, and for them, it probably just makes sense to skip Oblivion and go directly to Skyrim.[/QUOTE]

I think the problem is that many of the most hyped WRPGs are ranted and ranted about and no one really sees their flaws because they are so excited about the big immersive world. A few years later when the next biggest open world experience comes out suddenly everyone can see all the last games flaws that a year or two before they ignored or down played.
 
So tempted to buy Oblivion... I've always wanted to try it out with all the awesome mods out there. But I just don't have the time to install them all, let alone to play the game throughout. My backlog is too huge and I'd rather save up for Skyrim as well.
 
As much as I'd like to try Oblivion, I want Skyrim way more. I know I'm not likely to play two similar huge games in the same franchise. And considering I should be getting Skyrim soon, I know I won't be able to go back to the previous entry after experiencing Skyrim.
 
I still put a TON of hours into Oblivion, probably more than any other game (though the only competition would be Daggerfall and Morrowind and eventually Skyrim). It does have some issues, but that doesn't make it a bad game. That said, some of Skyrim's improvements (like leveling) are so awesome I'm not sure I'd want to go back to any previous ES game after it. That doesn't make any of them bad games, it just makes Skyrim a really good one.
 
[quote name='kingtopher']I still put a TON of hours into Oblivion, probably more than any other game (though the only competition would be Daggerfall and Morrowind and eventually Skyrim). It does have some issues, but that doesn't make it a bad game. That said, some of Skyrim's improvements (like leveling) are so awesome I'm not sure I'd want to go back to any previous ES game after it. That doesn't make any of them bad games, it just makes Skyrim a really good one.[/QUOTE]


That's how i feel. $6.24 is an amazing price for the deluxe edition but after playing Skyrim i don't think i could go back.
 
Today's deal is the Left 4 Dead franchise at 75% off.

Left 4 Dead - $4.99
Left 4 Dead 4-pack - $14.99
Left 4 Dead Bundle (both games) - $7.49
Left 4 Dead 2 - $4.99
Left 4 Dead 2 4-Pack - $14.99
Left 4 Dead 2 + Prima Strategy Guide - $7.49

You must visit the L4D2 page to be entered into the wishlist giveaway, not the L4D1 page.
 
I recently picked up Morrowind again after having lost my hard copy and I really enjoy it so much more than Oblivion. I recommend if you enjoy Oblivion, pick up Morrowind whenever it is on sale again and put a good graphics overhaul mod on it. It looks amazing and has in my opinion better gameplay and story.
 
I would say no to purchasing L4D1 if you already own the second. They've already ported several (if not all) of the maps over to L4D2 for free, so unless you want to play those maps w/o melee weapons and the different gun selection, there's really no reason to pick it up. And btw, if you don't already own L4D2, pick it up. Easily one of the best games I've ever played, period.
 
[quote name='utopianmachine']As much as I'd like to try Oblivion, I want Skyrim way more. I know I'm not likely to play two similar huge games in the same franchise. And considering I should be getting Skyrim soon, I know I won't be able to go back to the previous entry after experiencing Skyrim.[/QUOTE]
You can go back to previous Elder Scrolls games no problem. Just get some good mods and it will be for a good time.

[quote name='momouchi']I recently picked up Morrowind again after having lost my hard copy and I really enjoy it so much more than Oblivion. I recommend if you enjoy Oblivion, pick up Morrowind whenever it is on sale again and put a good graphics overhaul mod on it. It looks amazing and has in my opinion better gameplay and story.[/QUOTE]

Quite personally I enjoy Morrowind much more than Oblivion. I played Morrowind on the original X-box so I am still looking for a cheap Steam copy. Oblivion feels I guess generic is the word I am looking for. The world of Oblivion to me felt too generic fantasy and the whole game itself was alright but there was nothing to make it stand out. Morrowind while the combat is dated, I just feel is better overall, so much so that I would rather play that than Oblivion. Plus I really love the scenery of Morrowind, and I might say even though Skyrim looks way better graphically, I might just enjoy the dark swampy world of Morrowind better.
 
[quote name='hecaitomix']never played both L4D and L4D2, any reason to get both? or just get the 2nd?[/QUOTE]

Meanwhile, just a couple of posts above...


[quote name='jetlag16']I would say no to purchasing L4D1 if you already own the second. They've already ported several (if not all) of the maps over to L4D2 for free, so unless you want to play those maps w/o melee weapons and the different gun selection, there's really no reason to pick it up. And btw, if you don't already own L4D2, pick it up. Easily one of the best games I've ever played, period.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='jetlag16']I would say no to purchasing L4D1 if you already own the second. They've already ported several (if not all) of the maps over to L4D2 for free, so unless you want to play those maps w/o melee weapons and the different gun selection, there's really no reason to pick it up. And btw, if you don't already own L4D2, pick it up. Easily one of the best games I've ever played, period.[/QUOTE]

Does this answer change at all if you want to enjoy the games via SP? in other words, do I miss out on a SP experience at all by not owning L4D1 as well?

thanks for the response!
 
What are the single-player campaigns like in the L4D series? I know a lot of people like them for the multiplayer, but if I'm unlikely to play online, are the single-player games worth it?
 
[quote name='Vegan']Playing L4D single player is the same as multi player, just with AI teammates. There are no separate SP/MP campaigns.[/QUOTE]

Er, no it's not because in single-player you don't play as the special infected. You can through some console commands/cheats, but it's not the same thing as playing against human survivors.

As someone who's logged over 1000 hours in each game, my advice is that if you're going to play mainly single-player, skip L4D1. All the maps (save one survival map) have been ported over to 2. The only real reason to play the first game in multiplayer is to experience the joy of the 4-cap, which means having a team of 4 special infected that can incapacitate at the same time (i.e. hunter and smoker combinations), which doesn't happen in L4D2.
 
[quote name='Vegan']Playing L4D single player is the same as multi player, just with AI teammates. There are no separate SP/MP campaigns.[/QUOTE]

To be fair, the AI can be really stupid at times. Whether this makes it different from a multiplayer experience depends on how stupid your friends are.
 
[quote name='Vegan']Playing L4D single player is the same as multi player, just with AI teammates. There are no separate SP/MP campaigns.[/QUOTE]

thanks for the info, getting l4d2 only then.
 
Single player L4D will not have much replay value. Playing with bots is okay the first few times, but the main draw of this game is utilizing teamwork and coordination with real players. At only 5 bucks I think you'll get your moneys worth though.
 
[quote name='jetlag16']I would say no to purchasing L4D1 if you already own the second. They've already ported several (if not all) of the maps over to L4D2 for free, so unless you want to play those maps w/o melee weapons and the different gun selection, there's really no reason to pick it up. And btw, if you don't already own L4D2, pick it up. Easily one of the best games I've ever played, period.[/QUOTE]

They have ported all of the L4D1 maps to L4D2 at this point, other than the little 2-map Crash Course. That said, the atmosphere on L4D1 is better IMO. The game is darker than L4D2. Even the L4D1 maps that were ported into the 2nd one aren't as dark and dreary.

Now, is that worth $5? Hard for me to say since I bought L4D1 and 2 when they first game out. If I owned L4D2 I am not sure if I'd spend $5 on L4D1 just for a darker atmosphere.
 
Crash Course has also been ported over. I'm not sure that the ported maps are less dark and dreary than their original versions, either. It might just feel that way in contrast to the daytime L4D2 maps.
 
Do the campaigns have decent stories? I know that seems like a silly question but I would mostly be single player and it would be good to know.
 
[quote name='darksurtur']Do the campaigns have decent stories? I know that seems like a silly question but I would mostly be single player and it would be good to know.[/QUOTE]

Almost no story, other than a group of survivors trying to get from X to Y.

If you have any interest AT ALL in zombie shooters, buy this, even for SP.
 
[quote name='dfg']Crash Course has also been ported over. I'm not sure that the ported maps are less dark and dreary than their original versions, either. It might just feel that way in contrast to the daytime L4D2 maps.[/QUOTE]

I haven't played the game in 3 months, so I assume Crash Course being ported over is a recent thing. The last time I played it, Death Toll had just been ported.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the darkness of L4D1 vs L4D2, unless I get the gumption to take in game photos to show the difference. The lighting in L4D2 is brighter across the board. Obviously you have the day time maps but the night time maps aren't as dark as the maps on L4D1, either. It is a pretty common complaint about L4D2.
 
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