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1.) Croquet inspired mini-golf. Minigolf is awesome.

2.) You can drink a beer and play croquet at the same time and not spill.

3.) You can modify a croquet court to make it more challenging. Apparently running back and forth and shooting at a stationary target is a challenge

4.) You can hit your ball into other people's balls without penalty. If you throw a basketball at someone else's balls, you're probably getting suspended.

5.) Croquet was an Olympic sport in 1900. Basketball in 1936.

6.) In croquet, the hoop is just barely bigger than the ball, meaning it's a lot harder to putt a croquet ball thru a hoop than shooting a basketball at a hoop.

7.) Men and women can play against each other in croquet tournaments, because croquet promotes gender equality.

8.) In 2012, 1800 people participated in a Croquet tournament at Oxford University, and was the largest sporting event in campus history. Which means it's more fun to play than basketball.

9.) There's no stupid rules in croquet. Just hit your ball thru the hole. No stupid rules like shot clock violation, double dribble, 3 second violation, lane violation. Just put the ball thru the damn hole.

10.) Croquets are delicious.

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Curling is awesome to watch. 

Oh, here you go Alan

Sailing

Ha ha ha 

3.) You smash your shuttlecock at other people with the intent to kill them. In Basketball, you shoot a stupid ball at a metal hole that doesn't even have a "goalie"

 
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Curling.

And in case it didn't come across in the text, I was not the slightest bit serious about the racist thing.
1.) You're playing on ice. Ice is dangerous to play on because you can slip and fall. Sometimes people play on frozen ponds, which is even more dangerous.

2.) Was also an Olympic sport before basketball

3.) Curling pants are way cooler than basketball pants

4.) Female Curlers are way hotter than female basketball players

Whoops, accidentally submitted post, will add more via edit

5.) You can curl in a wheelchair. You can also play basketball on a wheelchair, but remember, you're on ice, which is dangerous. Also:

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6.) You use brooms, which can double for cleaning and broom hockey. Your basketball is only good for basketball.

7.) Unicycle curling is infinitley better than Unicycle basketball

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBxvrSRp9b4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7j7_ec1Aqw

8.) Points are way too easy to get in basketball. In curling, they actually use measuring sticks to see who is closest to the center, because it's actually challenging.

9.) The curling "drawing board" is way cooler:

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10.) Curling is like billiards on ice. There's no ice variant of bbasketball. Because basketball sucks.

 
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Curling is awesome to watch.

Oh, here you go Alan

Sailing

Ha ha ha

3.) You smash your shuttlecock at other people with the intent to kill them. In Basketball, you shoot a stupid ball at a metal hole that doesn't even have a "goalie"
1.) Sailing isnt just a sport, it's a form of transportation. "I sailed to work today" sounds way cooler than "I basketballed to work today"

2.) People die from sailing because of things like drowning. People don't die in basketball. Oh wait, one guy did once. From being so bored watching basketball that he shot himself. That counts I guess.

3.) Sailing involves wind. There was a race in San Francisco last year where boats couldn't even finish the race because the wind was so strong it broke their boats. Point is, they still tried, even though they might drown or get eaten by a shark. A basketball player gets a leg cramp, and has to get carried off by two people.

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4.) You're more likley to see hot chicks in bikinis at a sailing event than a basketball game.

5.) Sailing was an Olympic sport before basketball (1896)

6.) You can sail across the world. You cant basketball across the world. Or maybe you can, but no one would even care because it's basketball.

7.) You can pee off the side of your boat when you sail. You cant pee off the side of a basketball court without being labeled a sex offender.

8.) People got all up in arms when a 14-year old girl was going to sail around the world solo because it's dangerous. No one bats and eye if a 14 year old girl plays basketball by herself.

9.) You have to wear a life jacket because it will save your life if you fall off the boat. If you fall in basketball because you are a dirty, dirty flopper.

10.) Also, the only floppers in sailing are when fish somehow land in your boat.

 
I am reasonably certain we are witnessing Alan's finest work ever. This must have been what Michael Jordan's teammates felt like. Whoops...basketball reference. I mean...this must have been what Christopher Columbus's shipmates felt like.

Some of my personal favorites:

3.) You smash your shuttlecock at other people with the intent to kill them. In Basketball, you shoot a stupid ball at a metal hole that doesn't even have a "goalie"
4.) You can hit your ball into other people's balls without penalty. If you throw a basketball at someone else's balls, you're probably getting suspended.
5.) You can curl in a wheelchair. You can also play basketball on a wheelchair, but remember, you're on ice, which is dangerous. Also:

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1.) Sailing isnt just a sport, it's a form of transportation. "I sailed to work today" sounds way cooler than "I basketballed to work today"

7.) You can pee off the side of your boat when you sail. You cant pee off the side of a basketball court without being labeled a sex offender.
 
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Ha ha, This needs to be on reddit. Just awesome.

Saw Oculus Rift is getting sued over their name as well.
Wow...that lawsuit is a freaking joke. Total ploy just to get some publicity of their own and/or profit off someone elses success. This Oculu company is trying to claim that it's a trademark violation because Oculus intends to "stream audio and video by means of the internet"...which is what they do, and that will confuse customers.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/02/video-streaming-company-oculu-sues-oculus-over-trademark-concern/

If that doesn't get thrown out, I'll be amazed. To begin with...it's not the same name. And secondly, the only thing you could possibly construe into "streaming audio and video by means of the internet" is a statement Oculus made about hopefully designing their own games someday (which I guess would include audio and video...and could be downloaded over the internet...FFS). What a slimy ass company. Here's their website.

http://www.oculu.com/

 
Allow me to reiterate: Alan, I love you.
<3 you too

Here's a challenge for Alan. Hockey, as done by EA.
Challenge? Pfft, too easy.

1.) Although EA NHL refs suck, we know they ARE NOT betting on games to make money. Although we know NBA refs suck, the sometimes ARE making bets on games to make money.

2.) No EASHL player is attempting to build a relationship with a certain North Korean Dictator.

3.) The penalty shot, hockey's version of a free throw, at least has variability with the goalie, so there is an excuse if you don't score. In most professional sports, an athlete is expected to make routine plays where there is little variability (such as an open net shot in hockey when the goalie is pulled, a routine flyball in baseball, a PAT in football, etc). In basketball, they have to keep track of free throw %; an uncontested, un-timed shot, at a stationary target that never changes height or depth, with no variability in wind or temperature or the coriolis effect, because holy shit, why are you missing this easy shot when you're paid to do this?

4.) There's at least 100 bench spots in an EASHL locker room, so more of your friends can feel like part of the team. An NBA locker room has like what...20 spots?

5.) Even though EA NHL goalies suck, they at least make saves sometimes. In basketball, you cant even have a goalie because you get a foul for goal tending. And goal tending fouls exist because basketball would be boring as hell to watch if no one scored, so they had to make it easy to get points so people would actually watch basketball.

6.) You can send XBL messages to other EA NHL players about inappropriate sexual acts conducted with other people's mothers without getting a 2 minute penalty. Mutombo waves his index finger at someone and gets a freaking technical foul.

7.) The below video is the best EA NHL movie ever made. The best basketball movie ever involves a retired basketball player becoming a baseball player, who decides to save a rabbit, duck, martian, Tasmanian devil, and other cartoon individuals from alien slavery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGTSQj7WTP4

8.) You can kneel in front of a person in EA NHL when they're skating to trip them, and it's funny. You can do that in basketball too, but that just makes you a dick.

9.) EA NHL has the creepy Russian trainer in the tracksuit, but he's totally cool and chill. You run into a Russian dude with a track suit on a basketball court, he's not there to play basketball; he's there to break your legs with a bat and maybe dribble the ball on your face.

10.) Playoffs are every two weeks, and subsequently, there are a lot of different champions; hundreds of champions since September. The NBA has had 8 champions in 25 years. Probably because the other 22 teams realized they're playing a terrible game and stopped trying as hard.

 
Wow...that lawsuit is a freaking joke. Total ploy just to get some publicity of their own and/or profit off someone elses success. This Oculu company is trying to claim that it's a trademark violation because Oculus intends to "stream audio and video by means of the internet"...which is what they do, and that will confuse customers.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/02/video-streaming-company-oculu-sues-oculus-over-trademark-concern/

If that doesn't get thrown out, I'll be amazed. To begin with...it's not the same name. And secondly, the only thing you could possibly construe into "streaming audio and video by means of the internet" is a statement Oculus made about hopefully designing their own games someday (which I guess would include audio and video...and could be downloaded over the internet...FFS). What a slimy ass company. Here's their website.

http://www.oculu.com/
It's been a while since I was in a media law class, but IIRC, Oculu is filing trademark infringement, which is more for the name of the product company itself, than for what the product does, which is patent infringement. The article itself mentions "streaming audio and video by means of the internet," but that quote doesnt seem to be from Oculu themselves, it's just the writer using those quotes. THe actual quote from Oculu strictly talks about the name being used. If that's the case, I think they actually might have a case to make, because the names are awfully similar. If Oculu has documentation the Oculus approached them for a name buyout, that actually would be strong evidence against Oculus for trademark infringement.

 
It's been a while since I was in a media law class, but IIRC, Oculu is filing trademark infringement, which is more for the name of the product company itself, than for what the product does, which is patent infringement. The article itself mentions "streaming audio and video by means of the internet," but that quote doesnt seem to be from Oculu themselves, it's just the writer using those quotes. THe actual quote from Oculu strictly talks about the name being used. If that's the case, I think they actually might have a case to make, because the names are awfully similar. If Oculu has documentation the Oculus approached them for a name buyout, that actually would be strong evidence against Oculus for trademark infringement.
Oh yeah, if they actually have documentation of that, that would be huge. From what I could tell, Oculu doesn't have any kind of logo that Oculus could have stolen. I get that they want to say "Oh, they just added an "s" to make it different. But what seems more way likely to me is that Oculus had never heard of Oculu...and came up with a name based around vision (ocular) that just happened to be similar to another company that is in a completely different field.

That's like Raid insect repellent suing the Oakland Raiders because they both stink (hiyo). "But but...they just added 'ers'" Or Samson musical instruments suing Samsonite the luggage company. Companies have similar names. It happens all the time. I guess it bears similarities to the WWF...World Wildlife Federation case...but that was based more around the logo and using the WWF acronym. This is two completely different words.

But yeah...the name being "similar" seems to be what they've built the entirety of their case on. Unless they have some hard evidence against Oculus, their claim should be laughable. And allegedly, some of the stuff in that Ars Technica article is from the actual court filing.

Here's a RockPaperShotgun article that basically makes the same point.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/12/sigh-oculu-file-trademark-dispute-against-oculus-rift/

 
Oh my God, that is amazing, lol. I almost lost it when Daffy Duck slammed the ball with authority. And then the ally oop to Bugs Bunny. I wonder if there's a mod like that for 13. I got that for like $7 last year...and the only reason I'd really consider upgrading is for OTP. That mod is the shit though. Nice find, Gary! :)

EDIT - Just checked and there IS a 2K13 version of it. And is it just me or do the Looney Tunes characters look shorter in this one?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zSp4kC2npc[/youtube]

It looks better that way...but I wonder if it really throws off the balance with being able to play defense. I'm assuming their jumping is still maxed out...but maybe boxing out and getting position is harder. Anyway, downloading and installing, haha.

 
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Yeah...so apparently, Space Jam would not have had a happy ending if I had been in control of the game, lol. The Tunes characters are definitely smaller in the 2K13 version...and maybe the person who made it never actually play tested it because it is not easy for a 4'7" person to shoot on a 7'5" person. You have to be so wide open because they'll block your shot from like 5 feet away. It almost reminded me of the "Breaking Madden" series, haha.

To make matters worse, I looked at some of the attribute settings, and they didn't even give all of the Tunes characters maxed out jumping...and some of them had the same speed/quickness as the Monstars players. That's just complete ass, man. I might tweak the attributes myself and see if I can at least give smallers players advantages where they should have them. I also need to figure out how to replace the in-game music so I can get rid of Jay-Z and instead have this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiy2AV43gZo[/youtube]

 
IIRC, wasn't there a Space Jam game for the Dreamcast?

Pretty cool mods none the ,ess to enhance the crappy sport of basketball.

Anybody playing tonight?

Hey Alan, how about Golf?

 
I should be on at some point. Might be a little later than normal considering today's date (Gary, don't you ask me what holiday today is, lol)

And, yes, there was a Space Jam game...on the original Playstation.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDXSdE2rUiE[/youtube]

 
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Holy crap. How did I not see this last week? Almost 5,000 people were banned from Rust when they updated to a new hacker detection software. I had seen posts saying they didn't think Valve's VAC thing was good enough, but damn...this is crazy. It really blows my mind how many people are so sad and unfulfilled that cheating at a video game brings them joy. Same with NHL. People can't just play and have a good time. They have to find a way to gain an unfair advantage so they can convince themselves that they're "good". Unreal.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/02/13/4621-rust-players-banned-by-new-anti-cheat-software/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0

Seems like Rust had another update today too (though I'm not seeing any notes yet). Bluefatty's server hasn't been updated and now gives the "incompatible version" message. It better not get wiped...that's all I have to say.

Also, this game looks awesome. And it's free.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H49-RM41b4I[/youtube]

http://gamejolt.com/games/puzzle/bewilder-house/17297/

 
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Hahahaha...yes! I did it. I found something Alan hates more than basketball. This must be your favorite video ever then.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M92AnWXHe40[/youtube]

 
Havent heard of that before, but VAC isnt that good as an anticheat system anyways.

Also, if anyone is interested, I somehow have a 75% off Shadow Warrior, 30% off Aqua Kitty, and 3x 25% off Broken Age coupons

 
Has anybody played that Trouble In Terrorist Town game? It seems pretty cool with all the custom stuff you can have. All you really need is Garry's Mod (which is on sale on Steam this week for $2.49). It also uses Counter Strike Source textures...but I'm pretty sure you can get those for free from No More Room In Hell now. And at the least, I know you can download them separately.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWBfw0ssenw[/youtube]

 
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And in other Steam related news, I'm glad I didn't let Brandon talk me into buying that Takedown: Red Sabre game the other night, haha. It can now be had for $1 along with Marlow Briggs and Rekoil. And if you choose, you can tack on another $3.99 to get Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons. I got that one on XBL during the Christmas sale though...so $1 was good enough for me.

https://www.paywuw.com/

EDIT - On top of that, it looks like my < $1 copy of Takedown gave me a gift copy. So, I've got an extra if anybody wants it.

EDIT 2 - I also forgot to mention, I got a second chance to grab Postal 2 Complete for cheap when GMG had it on sale the other day. I played for about 45 minutes. The first thing I did in the game was pee on my dog. He got mad and bit me in the nuts. So, I had to put him down, lol. Crazy game.

 
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I guess it only sends info to valve if it picks up a domain from a "blacklist"

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1y70ej/valve_vac_and_trust/

I guess I'm ok with it only because it's Valve so far, and like at the end of his post, they've earned my trust. So far.

Has anybody played that Trouble In Terrorist Town game? It seems pretty cool with all the custom stuff you can have. All you really need is Garry's Mod (which is on sale on Steam this week for $2.49). It also uses Counter Strike Source textures...but I'm pretty sure you can get those for free from No More Room In Hell now. And at the least, I know you can download them separately.

[youtube]http&#58;//www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWBfw0ssenw[/youtube]
Heard of it, but I question how fun it will be with only 3 *coughGaryAndRobcough* of us. Prop Hunt looks fun too, but again, same concerns.

If no one wants Takedown, I'll take it. I kinda wanted Marlow Briggs, but god knows when I'll get around to playing it. I swear, if CAG never existed and all I had was Steam deals, I'd still have a terrible backlog.

POstal is fun, but Ifeel like an asshole for enjoying it.

 
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Heard of it, but I question how fun it will be with only 3 *coughGaryAndRobcough* of us. Prop Hunt looks fun too, but again, same concerns.

If no one wants Takedown, I'll take it. I kinda wanted Marlow Briggs, but god knows when I'll get around to playing it. I swear, if CAG never existed and all I had was Steam deals, I'd still have a terrible backlog.

POstal is fun, but Ifeel like an asshole for enjoying it.
Yeah...I did see some of the guys we play Rust with also have Garry's Mod (Rakinok, LordJago...actually, Brownwing might even have it). So, I guess there could be potential there. And yeah, Prop Hunt looks pretty hilarious too.

As for Takedown, if you want it, it's yours. My backlog is huge as well...but when it's 3 games for $1 I can't say no, haha. I think being on PC and knowing the platform isn't going to get "outdated" makes piling on the games that much easier. At least that's what I tell myself so I can fall asleep at night, lol.
 
We could play with randoms too if everyone isnt opposed to that
Yeah, I think that would be fun...especially if we rig the game against them, lol. Terrorist Town seemed pretty cool because you basically can't figure out who the traitor is without killing somebody...but if you kill the wrong person, you just weakened your own team, haha.

And Prop Hunt is basically hide and go seek where you get to become an inanimate object. All the custom skins in those games are nuts too. I've seen Minecraft stuff, Star Wars stuff, celebrities, etc. Really an awesome use of Garry's Mod.

 
Damn, this is an awesome Terrorist Town map.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKujmg_ABJ8[/youtube]

Only in PC mods will you find so many licensed products and blatant copyright violations, lol.

 
So what do you need for this trouble in terrorist town game?
You need Garry's Mod...which is $2.50 on Steam right now. And then you just need the Counter Strike Source textures (you don't need the actual Counter Strike game). I've seen people say you can get the textures simply from downloading that No More Room in Hell game (which is free). But I know you can just download them too (which is what I did since you have to paste them into the Garry's Mod addon folder.

EDIT - Alan beat me to it...and with links, haha. Nice job.

 
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