Destiny (PS3/PS4) Official Thread

bfinup said:
If they are going to fix the cheese they should implement a better loot system for those boss battles (Templar, atheon). It sucks spending the time to do them properly to get continously get shards
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Man that exotic thing... I hope it applies to new guns you get and not the ones in your inventory. They really want this game to become even more of a grinding fest don't they? As long as it applies to exotic guns and not armor I think I will be OK with the change. As I mentioned I rarely upgrade guns all the way to the top (there is really no need imo).

I totally agree with you. 6 guys go into this thing multiple times a week yet not everyone is rewarded correctly. At least make it so that each one gets something out of the fuck run and not one guy getting everything. Yesterday the FateBringer, chest piece, helmet, and some other weapon (vog fusion rifle) dropped to the same guy...wtf

 
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Agreed.

I'm all for randomness but they could limit the pool and guarantee something of value, especially if they are going to remove these "exploits".

Want me to spend the time and do something the "proper" way, atleast compensate me instead of giving more ascendant materials and chatterwhites.

So glad I got super lucky on my first legit hard raid and got the helmet. The difference between 29 and 30 is huge.
 
The best idea I've heard to address this would be earning Raid marks. 

That way you eventually save up enough marks to buy a piece of raid gear, sans the exotic stuff of course

 
Should have upgraded all my exotic armors. I have 4 armors that require the last 3 nodes i only need planetary materials for them. Now i can can buy the materials but have to spend an extra 28 coins on friday for them? Sheesh! And then theres my exotic weapons list. Grrr! Now i really need to do weeklies again
 
bfinup said:
Agreed.

I'm all for randomness but they could limit the pool and guarantee something of value, especially if they are going to remove these "exploits".

Want me to spend the time and do something the "proper" way, atleast compensate me instead of giving more ascendant materials and chatterwhites.

So glad I got super lucky on my first legit hard raid and got the helmet. The difference between 29 and 30 is huge.
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Seriously a shader , ship or material should not be considered a drop at all from one of the fights. Chests ok, but seriously spend 45+ minutes just to come out with a good for nothing ship, materials that are now somewhat useless or a freaking shader??? Why not drop that stupid new exotic material? Oh that would make the game more enjoyable wouldn't it?

Sigh, whatever we are the ones still going at it so its our own fault :wall:

 
Yeah, it's frustrating to run the raid and get ascendant mats the entire time and your 12th chatter white

Raid marks and a raid merchant would be a good compromise
 
Ooh nice. My already maxed Vex now has a 323 attack rating instead of 300.  

Not seeing a change in IB or Gjall-y though

 
bfinup said:
Yeah, it's frustrating to run the raid and get ascendant mats the entire time and your 12th chatter white

Raid marks and a raid merchant would be a good compromise
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I dig the idea of Raid marks. After so many runs you could probably have enough to buy that one freaking piece of armor that you need. I don't really care about having every single gun, but getting high enough so I am not a burden to my friends and can enjoy the higher levels is what I'm after

 
Soloed the nightfall and weekly on my lock and did them again with Jay and 7th on my titan. Got Hard light on my lock which I didn't have yet and a second skullfort on my titan. It has 8 more discipline than the one I had, but it's still probably going to get dismantled for the new mat since I already partially leveled my old one. I had like 7 dupe exotics I was hanging onto, so I actually have a decent number of the new shards already. I wish they would have given us some time with the new mat gathering methods before putting the exotic shards in though. I have a ton of exotics that I have gotten all the xp on, but that I didn't feel like farming the mats for. I would upgrade all of them if they didn't need the new shards.

I'll be running the nightfall and weekly on my hunter later tonight if anyone wants to join. I usually run on invite only, so just send me a message or chat invite if my fire team is not open.
 
Yeah I had that happen earlier today. It seems like they're trying to build hype for the expansion. Getting to run around with a sword for a little while in patrol is fun.
 
The 7th Number said:
Had an interesting event happen when i went to earth today. "The Blades of Crota have invaded this world!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsXsdW2lyC8
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So that's a WTF moment :lol: .

That 20 something player near the end was probably wondering what just happened.

The one thing I did noticed after checking out the new NF stats was the little icon next to the tower, on the map selection screen. All I saw it do was play the trailer, but I wonder if it'll be more relevant later

 
The 7th Number said:
Had an interesting event happen when i went to earth today. "The Blades of Crota have invaded this world!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsXsdW2lyC8
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So that's a WTF moment :lol: .

That 20 something player near the end was probably wondering what just happened.

The one thing I did notice after checking out the new NF stats was the little icon next to the tower, on the map selection screen. All I saw it do was play the trailer, but I wonder if it'll be more relevant later

 
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I went back and saw it again. This time i got there fast enough to see some hive on their knees in a circle praying, thats when that big knight spawned in the middle of them. When you kill him you can pick up the sword for a minute or so. Then it shakes the controller and disappears. Kind of cool.

 
Im down for a raid tonight.

I saw the Sword of Crota guy again on earth, first area where you spawn in. But this time he spawned somewhere else. I went out to the top and saw him fighting fallen near the entrance to go to the spider tank area. The ones you have to shoot to get the stairs fallen to spawn again.

 
Got The Last Word from my hunter's nightfall and immediately dismantled it. Probably only going to log on to do the dailies for the rest of the week and take a mini break before I dive back in with the expansion. The timing works out nicely since I picked up Dragon Age and Shadow of Mordor over the last few days.

 
If you guys start a bit late tonight on the raid, id like to join. Il probably do nightfalls and weeklies tonight too
 
I'd love to do the Raid at least once tonight but I somehow think I'll miss time it with my evening schedule. I'll be on doing nightfalls and weeklies later tonight (MST) so if anyone wants to join feel free to. 

I also ran into the Sword of Crota guy on the Moon while on Patrol around the Archer's Line Helium Filament farming loop. I can only assume using the Sword (like the Shield) will be a part of the new Raid. Or at least I hope so.

 
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[quote name="Motiv" post="12294906" timestamp="1417575027"]I'd love to do the Raid at least once tonight but I somehow think I'll miss time it with my evening schedule. I'll be on doing nightfalls and weeklies later tonight (MST) so if anyone wants to join feel free to.

I also ran into the Sword of Crota guy on the Moon while on Patrol around the Archer's Line Helium Filament farming loop. I can only assume using the Sword (like the Shield) will be a part of the new Raid. Or at least I hope so.[/quote]

Ill do nf and weekly with u. With solar burn i guesd itl be quicker right?
 
The 7th Number said:
Im down for a raid tonight.

I saw the Sword of Crota guy again on earth, first area where you spawn in. But this time he spawned somewhere else. I went out to the top and saw him fighting fallen near the entrance to go to the spider tank area. The ones you have to shoot to get the stairs fallen to spawn again.
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If you guys have space and see me online count me in (usually on around 8 PM CT), what time do you guys usually start? I saw you guys running the Raid last night so went and did all NFs and Weeklies for this week.

And yup the NF is a breeze with burn damage

 
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mars009 said:
If you guys have space and see me online count me in (usually on around 8 PM CT), what time do you guys usually start? I saw you guys running the Raid last night so went and did all NFs and Weeklies for this week.

And yup the NF is a breeze with burn damage
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It depends on when we can get a group together, really. It usually seems to be later on the day, after 8 or 9PM EST or so. I know I want to run the raid again today with my Hunter because I still need the raid chest piece to hit 30. We were talking about possibly running it on hard, not sure if that's still the plan but either or is cool.

Also, if anybody needs or wants help with the nightfall/weekly and you see me on feel free to ask. Where it's as easy as it is I don't mind helping out anybody who needs/wants it.

 
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mars009 said:
If you guys have space and see me online count me in (usually on around 8 PM CT), what time do you guys usually start? I saw you guys running the Raid last night so went and did all NFs and Weeklies for this week.

And yup the NF is a breeze with burn damage
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Sometimes it takes longer to get a group together than it takes to run the raid, in normal at least. Feel free to send a message if you want to raid and think you might me available at that time.

 
jhill9056 said:
Anyone see this? If this is really how they have decided to handle the upgrading of our current exotics with the launch of the expansion I just might be done with this game.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/12/03/stare-into-the-dark-below-new-details-on-the-destiny-expansion.aspx
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It makes sense that the exotic weapons need to have increased damage for the higher level enemies (30-32). Although that kind of sucks that the weapon progress will be reset and you'll have to upgrade each exotic again. At least the higher nodes (besides the last one) only needs planet farming materials instead of ascendant energy. An exotic shard for 7 strange coins is reasonable for those who've stocked up on them lately, but the $7000 glimmer is a pretty big hit when you can only hold $25000. I hope they increase that total.

Man, I wish they would've let you transfer your existing exotic stats over to the new exotic, especially for those of us who've been playing since day one. I'd pay a lot of strange coins in order to keep my exotic stats without grinding again if that were an option. /sigh

 
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jhill9056 said:
Anyone see this? If this is really how they have decided to handle the upgrading of our current exotics with the launch of the expansion I just might be done with this game.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/12/03/stare-into-the-dark-below-new-details-on-the-destiny-expansion.aspx
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Man. I really don't know how I feel about this. On the one hand, I like that we'll be able to upgrade all our exotics, but damn that sounds tedious. I currently have every exotic piece of armor for both the Titan and the Hunter, and all but the hawk-like helm for the Warlock. Every piece I have is fully maxed minus the Sunbreakers and No Backup Plans. (And I'm pretty close to maxing out the latter.) I REALLY don't want to spend 14 freakin strange coins for every single piece AND have to max them out all over again. Not with how boring and repetitive the Bounties have become. And that's just the armor. Not counting all the freakin exotic guns I have. The only exotic gun I don't have is the Hawkmoon. Ugh.

EDIT: I lied, I forgot I still don't have the Heart of Praxic Fire chest piece and the Knucklehead Radar helmet. Still.

 
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jhill9056 said:
Anyone see this? If this is really how they have decided to handle the upgrading of our current exotics with the launch of the expansion I just might be done with this game.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/12/03/stare-into-the-dark-below-new-details-on-the-destiny-expansion.aspx
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It seems to me that they want you to focus on the new gear more than the old. But if you really want to keep using the old exotics then here's a grindy way to upgrade it.

And since I still have a few exotics that need upgrading (Plan C, Last Word, Red Death, Thorn, Hard Light, Bad Juju [which is suppose to be good now]), I'll just stop working on them until the new DLC hits.

Sucks about legendaries... I'm thinking about the raid weapons I've gotten. Looks like those WILL be left in the dust

 
the loot raid drops for Crota’s End have been refined from what we experienced in the Vault of Glass. Specifically, the game will pay closer attention to the drops you’ve already had, as well as how long it’s been since you get a “fun” drop (as opposed to just materials)
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They needed that change since the beginning.

It sucks that they're introducing more things we need to farm and horde. Now we need to get crucible or vanguard commendations, radiant shards and radiant energy on top of the existing stuff. Its more complicated then it needs to be.

 
And their upping NF & weekly heroics to lvl 30.

Both heroics and nightfall strikes will see an increase of two light levels once the expansion opens. So prepare for those level 30 nightfall challenges. 

 
Mytho was patched to increase attack cap to give reward to people doing raids on hard.

The artcle meant to say is to get a better exotic u need to have 2 exotic shards (1st to upgrade the old to new. 2nd to max the new version). So what is the benefit a fully upgraded exotic vs upgraded version traded for a new on day one? None? Nahh. Dont think thats how bungie would want it. Itll pissed all hardcore players who maxed out exotics from the start.

I would think that the better way was to just patch all other exotics with extra nodes to upgrade. Fully upgraded exotics before expansion would still need to buy exotic shards to get to the next max cap damage but less grind
 
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Here's another interesting bit:

Looking ahead to 2015, players can expect that new raid primary weapons will only be available through the hard mode of the Crota’s End raid – set for launch in January.

So new raid weapons will only be available in Hard & Hard isn't available until January???  Whaaa???

 
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aFrostyONE said:
Here's another interesting bit:

Looking ahead to 2015, players can expect that new raid primary weapons will only be available through the hard mode of the Crota’s End raid – set for launch in January.

So new raid weapons will only be available in Hard & Hard isn't available until January??? Whaaa???
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Primary weapons will only drop in the harder version of Crota's End, released sometime in January. So you can still get secondary and heavy raid weapons on normal.

 
aFrostyONE said:
Here's another interesting bit:

Looking ahead to 2015, players can expect that new raid primary weapons will only be available through the hard mode of the Crota’s End raid – set for launch in January.

So new raid weapons will only be available in Hard & Hard isn't available until January???
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From my understanding Crota's End Raid is available December 9th but the hard mode isn't available until January 2015. You can only get new (?) raid primary weapons from the hard mode raid. The article doesn't say whether that's legendary or exotic primary weapons and if these new primary weapons are in addition to what Crota's End might give players on the regular raid.

Not the best of explanations from that article.

 
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I was on the fence about the expansion, and honestly, the new exotic upgrading system has pushed me over the edge towards a "No".

Bungie keeps taking 1 step forward and 5 steps back with every patch, and are making this game more and more of a time sink with no real gratification.

 
[quote name="spedmunki" post="12297131" timestamp="1417643529"]I was on the fence about the expansion, and honestly, the new exotic upgrading system has pushed me over the edge towards a "No".

Bungie keeps taking 1 step forward and 5 steps back with every patch, and are making this game more and more of a time sink with no real gratification.[/quote]

You said it. From the bungie forums there are already threads petitioning against that exotic upgrade path. Just hope bungie somehow retracts that patch. I just want extra nodes to upgrade and not full reset.

Preview also mentioned about higher nightfall level. Hopefully a level change drop down option like weeklies. I would hate to lose that lvl 28 NF option. If you do the higher tier you get a different radiant light color or something with more xp boost.
 
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I should be on tonight if anyone wants to do weeklies/nightfall or whatever. I went to see Pallbearer last night so no gaming was accomplished.

 
CAGkrazy said:
You said it. From the bungie forums there are already threads petitioning against that exotic upgrade path. Just hope bungie somehow retracts that patch. I just want extra nodes to upgrade and not full reset. Preview also mentioned about higher nightfall level. Hopefully a level change drop down option like weeklies. I would hate to lose that lvl 28 NF option. If you do the higher tier you get a different radiant light color or something with more xp boost.
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I'm not looking forward to exotic resets, but it may not be as bad as we're thinking.

Wasn't there another interview that talked about exotics starting off at higher levels and the upgrade path was going to smaller increases? Can't find it right now, but I understood it as something like this: starts at a base level of, lets say, 290 and you'll be able to max it out at 330 or so.

I'll keep looking for the story...

 
CAGkrazy said:
You said it. From the bungie forums there are already threads petitioning against that exotic upgrade path. Just hope bungie somehow retracts that patch. I just want extra nodes to upgrade and not full reset. Preview also mentioned about higher nightfall level. Hopefully a level change drop down option like weeklies. I would hate to lose that lvl 28 NF option. If you do the higher tier you get a different radiant light color or something with more xp boost.
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I'm not looking forward to exotic resets, but it may not be as bad as we're thinking.

Wasn't there another interview that talked about exotics starting off at higher levels and the upgrade path was going to smaller increases? Can't find it right now, but I understood it as something like this: starts at a base level of, lets say, 290 and you'll be able to max it out at 330 or so.

I'll keep looking for the story...

EDIT: ah, it was in the 12/1 update notes

http://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Update---12012014/en/News/News?aid=12433

  • Exotics now start at a higher base Attack value and have a narrowed upgrade range to compensate
So my example isn't the actual scenario, but it gives you an idea. Guess we just wait to see how much we get kicked back.

 
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jgu said:
Sometimes it takes longer to get a group together than it takes to run the raid, in normal at least. Feel free to send a message if you want to raid and think you might me available at that time.
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Yeah if I see you guys online I'll go ahead and shoot a message. I'll be down for the raid on hard if that's what we are going for. Way more fun and double rewards.

Read through that post and now I am really glad I have only 1 fully upgraded exotic, my freaking Ice Breaker. If you think about it, I am being rewarded for hoarding my materials and not upgrading anything. I'll probably keep on doing the same thing since I honestly stick to just some of the guns and not all of the, same goes for armor. We'll see what happens, but as it stands from the 5 guys I usually play with only another and myself remain, the rest moved on to other games, and with SoM waiting for me at home and GTA 5 it might be hard to stick around if this keeps becoming more and more of a grinding feast, which is sad since I really like the game

 
What concerns me the most about this is the revelation that so much of the time and effort that you've put in will be effectively negated every 3 months.

It's one thing to negate stuff once per year with a proper expansion with a proper amount of content ala WoW but to do so quarterly for such a paltry amount of content is just fucking bonkers.

 
FellOpenIan said:
What concerns me the most about this is the revelation that so much of the time and effort that you've put in will be effectively negated every 3 months.

It's one thing to negate stuff once per year with a proper expansion with a proper amount of content ala WoW but to do so quarterly for such a paltry amount of content is just fucking bonkers.
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I didn't think of that, but yeah as soon as the next dlc comes out none of the progress we do might matter at all :shame:

 
92 hours, 39 minutes played according to the app. I just hit level 29. I need to raise Iron Banner gloves from 21 > 30 light and Iron Banner boots from 25 > 30 light, so I reckon I need Ascendant Shards.

Can I realistically hope to hit level 30 by the time I reach 100 hours of play? Either way, what's my best bet for trying? I still haven't done the damn raid at all... ever. Would love to complete it on normal at least once before the expansion comes out, which leaves little time.
 
Matt Young said:
92 hours, 39 minutes played according to the app. I just hit level 29. I need to raise Iron Banner gloves from 21 > 30 light and Iron Banner boots from 25 > 30 light, so I reckon I need Ascendant Shards.

Can I realistically hope to hit level 30 by the time I reach 100 hours of play? Either way, what's my best bet for trying? I still haven't done the damn raid at all... ever. Would love to complete it on normal at least once before the expansion comes out, which leaves little time.
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You need all 4 armor pieces to be light level 30 for you to hit level 30. So... you'll hit 30 as soon as rng gives you the armor you need.

Maybe you have an exotic armor piece already, which means you'd just need one piece from the VoG raid

 
I'm stuck at 29 too...need raid helmet or chest...or expansion gear. Probably end up getting something from the expansion to get past 29.

 
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