Bam Bam Bigelow's Memorial wrestling topic

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[quote name='neocisco']Don't remind me. I wasn't able to go and I'm still sore about it. Birmingham is less than 3 hours away.:bomb:[/QUOTE]

At least you get to go to TNA shows. I'm still waiting for TNA to get their asses up here to MN.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']At least you get to go to TNA shows. I'm still waiting for TNA to get their asses up here to MN.[/quote]

Yeah, but you get RoH so we're mostly even.
 
[quote name='RawisJericho']I can't wait for that Austin DVD to come out, I think it'll be really good. Now I just need my Curt Hennig and Rick Rude DVDs and I'll be happy.[/QUOTE]
YES! Another Rude and Hennig fan! Rude rarely gets his due, so I kind of doubt he'll get the DVD treatmen, but then again, even Pillman got a DVD, and Rude was a far bigger name than him. Same with Hennig, who has thankfully not been forgotten by today's fans.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']YES! Another Rude and Hennig fan! Rude rarely gets his due, so I kind of doubt he'll get the DVD treatmen, but then again, even Pillman got a DVD, and Rude was a far bigger name than him. Same with Hennig, who has thankfully not been forgotten by today's fans.[/quote]

There an echo in here?

I kind of wonder what the sales #s on the Pillman DVD are.
 
I got the newest Observer today, and the 1 1/2 Bigelow tribute is fantastic. There will be a big story on him in next week's issue, but this week's did a great job of running down the major events in his life and career. The saddest parts were reading the parallels between he and Mike Tyson and seeing that he was so destitute at the end that he was living off of a disability check and using a public defender for his legal troubles. I also learned a lot of new information about Bigelow (like his Tokyo Dome matches being big draws, including one match that drew a 25.3 rating), and reading that Sags was scared for Bigelow and was tired of going to funerals because he'd lost 40 of his friends already. 40.

As for the Pillman DVD, it was in the top 10 recreational sports sales listing for MONTHS, and was a surprise hit for WWE. Pillman definitely had a dedicated non-wrestling fanbase from his football days, and his DVD did an excellent job covering that aspect of his life.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan'] I also learned a lot of new information about Bigelow (like his Tokyo Dome matches being big draws, including one match that drew a 25.3 rating), and reading that Sags was scared for Bigelow and was tired of going to funerals because he'd lost 40 of his friends already. 40.

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Jeez...
 
Khali wins by DQ after interference by someone and it'll lead up to a huge match at whatever PPV is next (Wrestlemania?)
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']As for the Pillman DVD, it was in the top 10 recreational sports sales listing for MONTHS, and was a surprise hit for WWE. Pillman definitely had a dedicated non-wrestling fanbase from his football days, and his DVD did an excellent job covering that aspect of his life.[/quote]

:whistle2:k Interesting, I plan on picking it up at some point. Right now I've got plenty of DVDs (wrestling & other) to watch, so I can wait until it goes on clearance somewhere.

There's so many wrestlers that I'd like to see DVDs for. Pillman is a good choice because he had an interesting story. What I hate is the DVDs like Cena's, the previous Austin DVDs, Rock DVDs, HBK, the NWO Back in Black, etc that are put out there just to make a quick buck and only contain 5 of that particular superstar's most recent matches.

I think WWE should try to stick to doing DVDs for retired wrestlers, like Piper, Billy Graham (great dvd by the by), Dusty, Jake, Bret, etc, or at the very least guys that have had enough matches to fill a solid 2-disc set, like Eddie did when his DVD came out, Taker, Benoit, Flair, RVD and so forth.

I'd love to see DVD sets for Perfect, The British Bulldogs, Rock, Rick Rude, Steamboat, and many others. Pity I'll probably never get one for Owen Hart or Randy Savage. Christ, Miss Elizabeth was profiled in the Greatest Managers DVD, while Savage - the guy who headlined WM 4 & 5 - was left off of the Greatest Wrestling Stars of the 80s DVD. Interesting.

Finally keeping with the theme of "interesting":

ECW December To Dismember will be held at the Cricket Arena in Charlotte, North Carolina on December 2nd, 2007.

I guess McMahon is planning to continue this ECW nonsense all the way through to 2008. I'm surprised WWE is actually going to go ahead with another DtD ppv though, after how successful the last one was.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']And in the 'this guy still has a job?' category, Scotty 2 Hotty was moved to the Raw roster.[/quote]

People always say that about Scotty, Funaki, & Val Venis. The reason they have jobs is because they're modern versions of The Brawler. All three of those guys can actually wrestle, and are still over with the crowd in their own way. No they won't get huge pops on TV, but I bet if you go to a WWE live event when Scotty's music hits during the first or second dark match he's going to get a big pop every time because he's the first "name" wrestler to come down to the ring. If a new prospect or potential recruit is worth jack crap they'll be able to put on a good match with one of the 3 aforementioned wrestlers that are "still on the roster". If you can't have a solid match with Scotty, or the fans start chanting boring during your dark match with him, then WWE has no use for you. I would wager Scotty ends up as a WWE road agent eventually. Watch Scotty, Venis & Funaki all get released tomorrow.
 
I'm personally still a closet Venis and Scotty fan always hoping that they may get another push... it was quite surprising that he was moved to Raw since he's never on TV for it to matter though, and guys in dark matches can easily have them with either brand.
 
I don't mind that those three are on the payroll as long as they don't fuck things up by putting them on TV. I wish they'd move Viscera into the category of "employed, not that you'd know by watching TV" too.
 
From Gerwick.net:

Dutch Mantel, Vince Russo and Jeff Jarrett have asked Mike Tenay to rejoin the booking committee. They have also asked Jim Cornette to join the committee and Cornette has agreed in principle but they haven't come to a deal over money yet.

... now I resume watching 24. :D
 
[quote name='Genocidal']I'm personally still a closet Venis and Scotty fan always hoping that they may get another push... it was quite surprising that he was moved to Raw since he's never on TV for it to matter though, and guys in dark matches can easily have them with either brand.[/quote]

Neither one will ever get pushed in any serious manner again. They may compete in a semi-successful manner in a gimmick match, or win a match in their hometown off camera, but that'll be it. I guess it's sort of a double-edged sword: they have secure careers with WWE, but will never get to do the "fun-stuff" they once did on TV. Either would probably make a good manager at this point, especially with Venis' mic skills, but won't happen, WWE refuses to do anything that makes sense.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I don't mind that those three are on the payroll as long as they don't fuck things up by putting them on TV. I wish they'd move Viscera into the category of "employed, not that you'd know by watching TV" too.[/quote]

Must be nice to be 6'7+, 400lbs+ completely out of shape, ridiculous in appearance, and get to flaunt it all on TV.

Unlike Venis, Scotty & Funaki, Big Vis is far from solid in the ring. The reason we get to see him from time to time is because he's so damn big that beating him looks better than beating your average jobber. The reason we don't see him ALL the time is because if lost every week, well beating him would then be the same as beating your average jobber. Don't be surprised if he ends up working a match or two with Khali on television in the coming weeks. Talk about your train wrecks!
 
RAW has been pretty good so far... for a change. Anyone else see JTG as a future world champ? Also... actually looking forward to seeing Khali/Hardy. Jeff has alwasy been decent when put up against bigger guys.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']RAW has been pretty good so far... for a change. Anyone else see JTG as a future world champ? Also... actually looking forward to seeing Khali/Hardy. Jeff has alwasy been decent when put up against bigger guys.[/quote]

Regardless of what the internet says, Taker is a good worker (Taker vs Angle - NWO '06), Kane, although sometimes monotonous, is a good worker, Big Show can work when he feels like it, Khali... not so much. If Jeff can go out and have a good match with Khali, well he needs to drop the IC strap and get bumped up to the top of the card to mix it up with Team RKO, HBK & Cena. Anyone remember when Jeff first won the I/C title from The H's back during the Austin/HHH team? I'd love to see another Hardy/HHH match one day.

While I typed that I couldn't help but laugh at these comments on Raw:

- Duggan "out-smarting" anyone.

- The "1st contenders" match, maybe it's time Melina join up with Eugene and form a special team.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']Anyone else see JTG as a future world champ?[/QUOTE]
He's got a lousy gimmick, he's not good in the ring and he's bad on the mic...

Val Venus, Vicera, Scotty 2 Hotty: The J.O.B. Squad 2007.
 
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Grant Street Community Center
2547 Grant St., Melbourne, FL 32901
Doors open at 7:30 pm and shows start at 8 pm
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Already Signed:

FIP Heavyweight Title Match - Stipulation To Be Announced
Roderick Strong defends vs. Davey Richards

Jake "The Snake" Roberts will be in Melbourne and he is after Larry Sweeney

Special Challenge Match #1
Mark Briscoe vs. Necro Butcher

Special Challenge Match #2
Jay Briscoe vs. Mad Man Pondo

Plus more with:
-"Sweet & Sour" Larry Sweeney
-DP Associate Shingo with Dave Prazak & Mr. Milo Beasley
-"Explosive" Erick Stevens
-Seth Delay
-The YRR of Claudio Castagnoli, Sal Rinauro & Chasyn Rance with Daffney
-"Classic" Colt Cabana
-Black Market with Allison Danger
-Gran Akuma
-Hallowicked
-Jigsaw
-Ricky Vega
-Lexie Fyfe
-Plus More To Be Announced!!!
 
[quote name='Brak']He's got a lousy gimmick, he's not good in the ring and he's bad on the mic...

Val Venus, Vicera, Scotty 2 Hotty: The J.O.B. Squad 2007.[/quote]
Him and his buddy sure are over though.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']Him and his buddy sure are over though.[/QUOTE]
Marks, man. Marks.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']Remind me again how a wrestler moves up the ladder?[/QUOTE]

These days? Random lottery it would seem.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']Remind me again how a wrestler moves up the ladder?[/QUOTE]
Having a physique, being over 6'1" and Triple H saying it's ok.

Besides, the fan "adulation" of Cryme Tyme is far from that of Heavyweight Championship gold... or even a huge push, for that matter.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']so what do you do with umaga now?[/quote]

Move him to ECW. Have him face Lashley at Wrestlemania. Jamal is a lot like some of the rather popular ECW originals (Bubba & Taz in particular) - he's fat & un-athletic, with crap mic skills.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Move him to ECW. Have him face Lashley at Wrestlemania. Jamal is a lot like some of the rather popular ECW originals (Bubba & Taz in particular) - he's fat & un-athletic, with crap mic skills.[/quote]

Taz unathletic? :roll:
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Move him to ECW. Have him face Lashley at Wrestlemania. Jamal is a lot like some of the rather popular ECW originals (Bubba & Taz in particular) - he's fat & un-athletic, with crap mic skills.[/QUOTE]
At least they had wrestling ability, and didn't rely on a recycled, regurgitated racial gimmick.

Taz isn't nonathletic, either. Buh Buh is one of the greater "big men" in "the business", as well.
 
If this is the route they're going to set up Trump at WM (wait...I just heard JR promote skittles - that was funny shit)...I'd suggest going to any RAW you can between now and WM.
 
So the $100 pretty much covers the price of the ticket, parking, etc. so those people essentially broke even monetarily however, this 2 hours is 2 hours they'll never get back so really, can any amount of money ever make up for that?
 
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