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One of Bam Bam's finest matches, and a sad reminder of what ECW used to be as well.[/QUOTE]

In Buffalo NY, hell I even go to school where they once had that match (years after the fact, of course).

That and his match Vs Taz was what got me hooked on ECW in the first place.

Hell, his match vs Taz is what turned me into the Taz mark I am today.

OH shat, forgot TNA comes on today~!
 
[quote name='guyver2077']the shades that tomko put on[/quote]

Yeah that's what I figured.. very subtle, good job TNA. The only flaw I saw in tonight's show was that Joe should have given Angle Christians belt as a sign of respect.
9.5/10
 
[quote name='guyver2077']wow wonder what that last hint meant[/QUOTE]
The last hint was Tomko's sunglasses.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']what was that towel and thumbs up for then?>[/QUOTE]
To make Angle and the audience think that Joe is still the secret trainer, continuing with the mindgames.
[quote name='KaneRobot']Sting is going to reveal Abyss is the "Spike Dudley" of the Undertaker family.[/QUOTE]
At least they don't claim Abyss has supernatural powers, such as shooting fireballs, summoning lightning, teleportation, etc.
[quote name='PhrostByte']Yeah that's what I figured.. very subtle, good job TNA. The only flaw I saw in tonight's show was that Joe should have given Angle Christians belt as a sign of respect.
9.5/10[/QUOTE]
That would have ruined Angle's Joe paranoia.
 
[quote name='Brak']That would have ruined Angle's Joe paranoia.[/quote]

or... enhanced it? Especially if he did it with that big Samolian smile. :D
 
Don't know if you guys knew this or not, Ric Flair: To be the Man is $5.99 at Barnes and Nobel. I just picked up a copy of it tonight. It could be YMMV too.
 
I would be very surprised if it was someone else.
Especially after this week's Smackdown, where
Batista is holding Kennedy and Undertaker goes to give him a big boot, but Kennedy moves and UT ends up leveling Batista
I really hope that if he does win, that he ends up winning at Mania or losing the title shot in a match at No Way Out so he can go to 15-0.
 
Let us not rule out Taker winning at WM. Remember Taker has a hell of a lot more pull backstage than Batista. Don't put it past the Deadman to demand to go over Batista only to drop the strap back to him at Judgment Day.

In all honesty, I'd love to see Taker win the Rumble and then go to Mania and win the title.

The last time Taker held the title he dropped it here in Detroit to The Rock, it'd only be fitting for him to win it back here. Everything comes full circle and Taker gets a final title run.
 
[quote name='hopesfall']I'm shocked that nobody is talking about the "secret" of Abyss' past...how incredibly lame can you get? That entire segment was awful![/QUOTE]
I don't think it was "lame", necessarily. I'd rather they just have let it died, as I don't think the audience can really back up Sting, what with him practically bullying Abyss like that.

However, I have to commend the creative team for at least choosing a crime that it a.) somewhat interesting (with more mystique), and most importantly, b.) tasteful.

Mitchell's flash paper attack was really well done, I thought -- far better than Hogan's.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']... Impact was on tonight?

fuck[/quote]
That's what I was just wondering. I can never remember the damn times.
 
Because I feel like it:

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[quote name='hopesfall']I'm shocked that nobody is talking about the "secret" of Abyss' past...how incredibly lame can you get? That entire segment was awful![/QUOTE]
I'm sure Russo can get much lamer. Stay tuned, if you dare.

[quote name='Zenithian Legend']The last time Taker held the title he dropped it here in Detroit to The Rock, it'd only be fitting for him to win it back here. Everything comes full circle and Taker gets a final title run.[/QUOTE]
And don't forget - the FIRST time he won it was at Joe Louis Arena right up the street.

I seriously doubt if UT wins that it will be because he "demanded" anything. Batista is not liked at all by the other wrestlers, and it's clear he's nowhere near as into it as he was before his injury last year. It would be foolish to break the streak in the first place, let alone have an older guy like Batista be the one to do it.


...however, WWE prides itself on being foolish, so I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Batista win.
 
[quote name='ahmedmalik']I'm going to both the Edison, NJ and New York City Ring of Honor shows. I can't wait to see Joe vs. Morishima. The crowd is going to be so fucking hot! It's going to be amazing! I can't wait!



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Fuk em' Joe - Fukemup![/QUOTE]

I should be going to the show in Philly, when Morishima takes on Homicide.
 
[quote name='Midnite']I should be going to the show in Philly, when Morishima takes on Homicide.[/quote]

Well if Joe beats Homicide for the World Belt at the Edison, NJ show, then that match would be changed to Joe vs. Morishima for the world title. Nevertheless, I heavily doubt that'll happen.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']And don't forget - the FIRST time he won it was at Joe Louis Arena right up the street.

I seriously doubt if UT wins that it will be because he "demanded" anything. Batista is not liked at all by the other wrestlers, and it's clear he's nowhere near as into it as he was before his injury last year. It would be foolish to break the streak in the first place, let alone have an older guy like Batista be the one to do it.

...however, WWE prides itself on being foolish, so I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Batista win.[/quote]

I wonder how much merchandise Batista sells :whistle2:k We haven't seen a Batista movie yet, so I'm led to believe McMahon doesn't hold him in the same light as Cena. Isnt't that why Cena and Batista swapped shows? I'd love to use the old "At least it's not Cena" here, but really I know I wouldn't be the only one that'd be irate if Batista went over Taker at WM.

Taker is extremely popular in Detroit too, having headlined numerous events at the Joe and that whole Survivor Series 05 business, so hopefully Vince remembers all of this and Taker goes over in the final match at WM23. I think that might actually save the event.
 
Don’t: Try to pin someone

Dear Mr. Savage circa 1993, do you see a ref in the ring? Neither do we. Maybe that’s because the Royal Rumble Match is an OVER-THE-TOP-ROPE Battle Royal, silly. Next time you’re in the Royal Rumble you better study up on the rules, but don’t worry, it’s probably going to be a while.
 
Cena is easily (and wisely) WWE's favored world champion - he can do far more in the ring than Batista, whose weaknesses they're constantly having to cover up with injury angles, short matches, and long-ish matches with the one man who can do anything with him at this point in Finlay.
 
[quote name='Brak']I don't think it was "lame", necessarily. I'd rather they just have let it died, as I don't think the audience can really back up Sting, what with him practically bullying Abyss like that.

However, I have to commend the creative team for at least choosing a crime that it a.) somewhat interesting (with more mystique), and most importantly, b.) tasteful.

Mitchell's flash paper attack was really well done, I thought -- far better than Hogan's.[/QUOTE]

I think the whole angle jumped from interesting to borderline cheesy. I wonder if we'll be seeing the return of masked sting at AAO :lol:

Besides all the silly skits, impact was really good last night. For a 1hour show, they really have to tone down the number of skits on the show. Hopefully Impact goes 2 hrs soon.

as for WWE, I perdict Taker winning the rumble, winning the title at WM and then dropping it to Batista or Kennedy at Judgement day. As for the raw mainevent, who the fuck knows whats gonna go down, but I'm willing to bet Micheals Vs Cena, or some sort of multi-man match (triple threat, fatal fourway). Lastly, I'm hoping for Punk Vs Lashely for the ECW mainevent, but I'm guessing its going to be Lashely Vs Test (with Test walking in as Champ).
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']I wonder how much merchandise Batista sells :whistle2:k We haven't seen a Batista movie yet, so I'm led to believe McMahon doesn't hold him in the same light as Cena. Isnt't that why Cena and Batista swapped shows? I'd love to use the old "At least it's not Cena" here, but really I know I wouldn't be the only one that'd be irate if Batista went over Taker at WM.[/QUOTE]

Remember, prior to King of the Ring 2003, when the WWE wanted to hotshot a match on Raw, with no buildup whatsoever, where Brock Lesnar was scripted to wrestle (and decisively beat) Stone Cold?

Remember how mad wrestling fans were that Austin said "fuck you, you're crazy" and left the Arena? Remember how Austin was summarily buried for weeks afterward, in a quasi-shoot storyline similar to Paul Heyman's public firing of Sabu for no-showing an important match?

How well would that have worked in the long run for the WWE? Lesnar would still have quit, and Lesnar still got over with the crowd in a major way when he did wrestle, despite never wrestling Austin. I'd say the hillbilly Texan was spot on with his thoughts on that night.

I'd also say that the notion that Batista would beat the Undertaker is a similarly absurd one. I don't know how many wrestlers/promoters think this, but they should: never give anything to someone who is thankless for where they are and what they've become - a wrestler is a legend, or popular, based on a multitude of factors. Part of it is the promoter, part of it is the wrestler themself, part of it is the people they face, and part of it is the match outcomes they are given. If anyone carries an "I did it all by myself, and you people should thank god that I'm here to lead the company" attitude, I'd bury them.

I'd put Batista in the curtain jerker spot, and have him lose for about one month to Shannon Moore or Little Guido, just to humble him. It wouldn't ruin his TV persona, because we all know "if it never happens on TV, it doesn't count." But it would show him how expendable he is - and he *is* that expendable, IMO.

Now, to be clear, I think the Undertaker WrestleMania streak is one of the few things left from the nostalgic era of wrestling. The WWE consistently puts him in great feuds, and puts together matches, that make you seriously wonder if his streak will remain intact. His match with Triple H at WMX-7, or Flair at WM X8 (?), or Orton at whatever one it was - those were great matches, and you wondered who would win. It isn't always like that (wrestling Nathan Jones and A-Train, or whoever the shit was in that awful match; or Giant Gonzalez, and didn't he wrestle Mark fucking Henry at WM?). However, I do think that, much like Andre "passed the torch" to Hulk Hogan at WMIII, The Undertaker's streak is only as useful as it is if someone beats him. I'd have him lose his very last WM match ever (he strikes me as the kind of dude who, when he retires, will stay that way). The streak is meaningless if he doesn't use it, in the end, to put somebody over. Who should it be? Out of the current crop of wrestlers, I couldn't tell you a single soul who deserves to be that man. There will come along, someone, eventually, who deserves to take that streak from him. Maybe it's a WWE guy now, or a TNA guy, or ROH, or who knows where.

Bottom line, or long story short, Batista isn't the guy who deserves shit. I'd make him humble (not Iron Sheik style, to be sure) first. He needs to be thankful for where he is and what he's accomplished. If he can't even do that, then I'd stop handing stuff to him right then and there. I'd have him drop the title clean to Kennedy, or back to King Booker, before WM first. No cheating, no question, but "the good guy lost the match."
 
Austin-Brock was going to happen before KOTR '02 - the final KOTR PPV thus far. With '03, they changed it to Bad Blood. Here's a fantastic summation of Impact from the Observer's site review of the show -
Where to begin. They have burned Joe-Angle out so bad that not only do I have no intention of seeing it again, but I don’t think the crowd does either. Angle is badly overexposed. They try to play Cage up like he’s the HHH “cerebral assassin” deal, but it comes off second-rate. The last thing wrestling needs is a Sting angle which brings back memories of his Vampiro program during the dying days of WCW, yet that appears to be where this Abyss thing is headed. And the two best personalities in the company are a manager who may never wrestle again, and another manager who never could, but cuts the best promos at a time when managers are a fashionable as polyester suits. Forgive me for thinking this company is going nowhere, but why should I think otherwise?
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As for Batista, he's reminding me more and more of Lex Luger as time goes on. He gets by JUST due to his physique, is nothing in the ring, is a danger to those he's in the ring with, and clearly doesn't give a shit about wrestling. He's also got a Luger-ish ego problem caused by getting his one big push that he'll no doubt live off of for as long as possible (which, going by how many muscle tears he's had, probably won't be long).
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Now, what's the problem with pushing Christian as a smart and devious wrestler? He sure isn't gonna pass as a strongman or a hooker.[/QUOTE]

agreed! I think Christian was brilliant last night
 
[quote name='Scorch']IMDB put up pictures of "The Condemned". Nothing too interesting, this is the coolest picture of the batch:
[/QUOTE]

That gun looks hella fake. If the prior two movies are any indication, this one is going to be filled with hokey dialouge and shitty music that'll play throughot the entire movie.

[quote name='onetrackmind']agreed! I think Christian was brilliant last night[/QUOTE]

His promos and match made Impact worth watching. See, this is why I don't like to look at wrestling sites anymore, they're all too negative. It's always some smark mouthing off that some angle sucks, or that the wrong wrestler is being pushed and "this is how I would do it!" type of crap.
 
I actually hope Taker's streak remains in-tact. I know it'd give someone a great rub, but really will there ever be anyone worthy? Taker pretty much has symbolized the WWE for the past 15+ years now. It's crazy, when WWE hit their lowest of lows, Taker was there, helping WWE rise from the dead just like his character. He was the in-ring piece during McMahon's feud with Austin. Has there ever been anyone that has had a run as long as Taker's at the top of ONE company? He may have started off in WCW, but he's been in WWE for so long that I don't think anyone could ever imagine him somewhere else.

I know for a fact (from asking him myself) that the streak means a lot to Taker, so why take that from him? Let another wrestler try to chase his record instead, Edge is already 5-0 at WM... Maybe I'm a little too old school though, but I think Taker has earned the right to walk away from the WWE undefeated at Wrestlemania.

[quote name='guyver2077']Don’t: Try to pin someone

Dear Mr. Savage circa 1993, do you see a ref in the ring? Neither do we. Maybe that’s because the Royal Rumble Match is an OVER-THE-TOP-ROPE Battle Royal, silly. Next time you’re in the Royal Rumble you better study up on the rules, but don’t worry, it’s probably going to be a while.[/quote]

I remember that, I believe he tried to pin Yoko... made no sense at all.

[quote name='Psykoboy2']So, how long do we usually go before we make a new thread?[/quote]

500 posts, same as everything else Pinky. When this one hits 500, the APA one will be opened back up. Then after that finishes I've got the next one already written up (still) which happens to be...
The Snake... finally!
Wonder how many people will actually check that :whistle2:k
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']



Then after that finishes I've got the next one already written up (still) which happens to be...
The Snake... finally!
Wonder how many people will actually check that :whistle2:k[/quote]

so ummm is there a request list... or better yet after apa and after your next one.. i got a perfect one...

where do you "write" up your topics?
 
Well, PWI put out their 2006 awards, and one I found weird:

Rookie of the Year: Boogieman

Here are the winners and runner-ups for the 2006 Pro Wrestling Illustrated Achievement Awards. The results were revealed in the March 2007 edition of Pro Wrestling Illustrated.

Rookie Of the Year: Winner: The Boogeyman, 1st Runner-up: Charles Evans, 2nd Runner-Up: Akebono, 3rd Runner-up: Cody Runnels

Most Inspirational: Winner: Matt Cappotelli, 1st Runner-up: Rey Misterio, 2nd Runner-up: Hardcore Holly, 3rd Runner-up: C.M. Punk

Most Improved: Winner: Bobby Lashley, 1st Runner-up: Johnny Nitro, 2nd Runner-up: Chris Sabin, 3rd Runner-up: Umaga

Comeback of the Year: Winner: Sting, 1st Runner-up: Sabu, 2nd Runner-up: Jeff Hardy, 3rd Runner-up: Finlay

Woman of the Year: Winner: Trish Stratus, 1st Runner-up: Dixie Carter, 2nd Runner-up: Mickie James, 3rd Runner-up: Lita

Feud of the Year: Winner: John Cena vs. Edge, 1st Runner-up: DX vs. The McMahons, 2nd Runner-up: Sting vs. Jeff Jarrett, 3rd Runner-up: Trish Stratus vs. Mickie James

Most Popular: Winner: Samoa Joe, 1st Runner-up: John Cena, 2nd Runner-up: Rey Misterio, 3rd Runner-up: Sting

Most Hated: Winner: Edge, 1st Runner-up: Jeff Jarrett, 2nd Runner-up: Randy Orton, 3rd Runner-up: King Booker

Match of the Year: Winner: Shawn Michaels vs. Vince McMahon from WrestleMania, 1st Runner-up: Kurt Angle vs. Undertaker from No Way Out, 2nd Runner-up: Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe from Genesis, 3rd Runner-up: Edge vs. Mick Foley from WrestleMania

Tag Team of the Year: Winner: Christopher Daniels and A.J. Styles, 1st Runner-up: Paul London and Brian Kendrick, 2nd Runner-up: DX, 3rd Runner-up: The Big Show and Kane

Wrestler Of the Year: Winner: John Cena, 1st Runner-Up: Samoa Joe, 2nd Runner-up: Rey Misterio, 3rd Runner-Up: Edge

Editor's Choice Award: Harley Race.
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For those who care:

[quote name='popupinsider.com']Jim Ross appeared today on the Motor City Middays show on 97.1 in Detroit, as he is doing every week until Wrestlemania. During the appearance, Ross announced that WWE Hall of Fame tickets will go on sale Saturday 3/3 at all Ticketmaster outlets.

The 2007 WWE Hall of Fame will be held 3/31 at the Fox Theater in Detroit.
[/quote]

Not interested...I'm sure the prices will be outrageous, and there's no one being inducted this year that is a highly-anticipated megastar. How do I know? They've already inducted Hogan, Piper, and Hart, and everyone else who should go in (Sammartino and Warrior) wouldn't accept the invitation even if asked. The best we'd get this year is Dutheh Rhodes and the Von Erichs. That, and the crowd at those HoF inductions are always a bunch of loud, disrespectful pricks.

Plus I have ROH tickets for both Friday and Saturday that weekend...if anyone wants to go, let me know as I have an extra ticket.


Also, I'm serving notice now: because I'm going to stop watching wrestling (for good) after WM, I'm making the thread the week before it.

And if you're not down with that, I've got two words for ya: fuck you, you pretentious asshole!
 
Eh, it's just a wrestling rag, who gives a shit what they say? They haven't been cool since writing up the "dream match" articles about Hogan and Flair meeting in the late 80's.

That said, Cody Runnels is a vastly better rookie than Boogeyman. Runnels has "it," and will be a major star one day, IMO.

Also, I'm not sure that Hardcore Holly is inspiring of anything, except perhaps mandatory and permanent birth control in the state of Alabama.

EDIT: I just found out that I have to go to Detroit for some followup data collection for my dissertation. Since I'm not really looking forward to it, perhaps I should plan it around a weekend of wrestling. Let's see if things fall in place in time for me to schedule it then.
 
For those who care:

[quote name='popupinsider.com']Jim Ross appeared today on the Motor City Middays show on 97.1 in Detroit, as he is doing every week until Wrestlemania. During the appearance, Ross announced that WWE Hall of Fame tickets will go on sale Saturday 3/3 at all Ticketmaster outlets.

The 2007 WWE Hall of Fame will be held 3/31 at the Fox Theater in Detroit.
[/quote]

Not interested...I'm sure the prices will be outrageous, and there's no one being inducted this year that is a highly-anticipated megastar. How do I know? They've already inducted Hogan, Piper, and Hart, and everyone else who should go in (Sammartino and Warrior) wouldn't accept the invitation even if asked. The best we'd get this year is Dutheh Rhodes and the Von Erichs. That, and the crowd at those HoF inductions are always a bunch of loud, disrespectful pricks.

Plus I have ROH tickets for both Friday and Saturday that weekend...if anyone wants to go, let me know as I have an extra ticket. They just announced that they are bringing the Dragon Gate guys in again for that weekend.


Also, I'm serving notice now: because I'm going to stop watching wrestling (for good) after WM, I'm making the thread the week before it.

And if you're not down with that, I've got two words for ya: fuck you, you pretentious asshole!
 
For those who care:

[quote name='popupinsider.com']Jim Ross appeared today on the Motor City Middays show on 97.1 in Detroit, as he is doing every week until Wrestlemania. During the appearance, Ross announced that WWE Hall of Fame tickets will go on sale Saturday 3/3 at all Ticketmaster outlets.

The 2007 WWE Hall of Fame will be held 3/31 at the Fox Theater in Detroit.
[/quote]

Not interested...I'm sure the prices will be outrageous, and there's no one being inducted this year that is a highly-anticipated megastar. How do I know? They've already inducted Hogan, Piper, and Hart, and everyone else who should go in (Sammartino and Warrior) wouldn't accept the invitation even if asked. The best we'd get this year is Dutheh Rhodes and the Von Erichs. That, and the crowd at those HoF inductions are always a bunch of loud, disrespectful pricks.

Plus I have ROH tickets for both Friday and Saturday that weekend...if anyone wants to go, let me know as I have an extra ticket. They just announced that they are bringing the Dragon Gate guys in again for that weekend.


Also, I'm serving notice now: because I'm going to stop watching wrestling (for good) after WM, I'm making the thread the week before it.

And if you're not down with that, I've got two words for ya: fuck you, you pretentious asshole!
 
[quote name='guyver2077']so ummm is there a request list... or better yet after apa and after your next one.. i got a perfect one...

where do you "write" up your topics?[/quote]

Well the next one I already had finished and was waiting to click post when the Konnan topic hit 500, but after a miscommunication with Demo he opted to post his APA topic instead.

Why don't we all tentively agree (barring any other unfortunate passings) that you will do the one after the one after the APA? It's like there's a sign-up sheet now. Who's next? :lol:

I've been watching a lot of wrestling vids lately and there's quite a few quality wrestlers that have been missed somehow or another. We'll get 'em though, we've only got forever. I still think it's funny how a pm convo between myself and Casey led to Razor Ramon's wrestling topic, which in turn spawned all this nonsense. I really didn't think there'd be many other avid wrestling fans on a videogame message board. Glad I was wrong.
 
The funny thing is that I was...

Divided between doing the APA and Jake the Snake on the one I ended up doing. How ironic that the Horseman was going to do Snake anyways.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Eh, it's just a wrestling rag, who gives a shit what they say? They haven't been cool since writing up the "dream match" articles about Hogan and Flair meeting in the late 80's.

That said, Cody Runnels is a vastly better rookie than Boogeyman. Runnels has "it," and will be a major star one day, IMO.

Also, I'm not sure that Hardcore Holly is inspiring of anything, except perhaps mandatory and permanent birth control in the state of Alabama.

EDIT: I just found out that I have to go to Detroit for some followup data collection for my dissertation. Since I'm not really looking forward to it, perhaps I should plan it around a weekend of wrestling. Let's see if things fall in place in time for me to schedule it then.[/quote]

What's the dissertation on?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
EDIT: I just found out that I have to go to Detroit for some followup data collection for my dissertation. Since I'm not really looking forward to it, perhaps I should plan it around a weekend of wrestling. Let's see if things fall in place in time for me to schedule it then.[/quote]

There's ROH shows on the 30th and 31st, and WM on April 1st. Plan away.
 
from my personal collection comes one of my favorite rumble moments ever

[MEDIA]http://www.themiamifamily.com/Videos/rumble99.WMV[/MEDIA]
 
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