I have nothing against any religion... However the religion that produced a person like you should not be admire or accepted in any way... Thats all
Well when you tell me how many Christians follow the word of God.... feel free to chime in..
The bible does say that self defense and instances of war are exceptions to thy shalt not kill. So owning a gun in case of a home intruder who is willing to take your life is ok. Not how moral our government is when it comes to these wars is questionable, gov. is seperate from the church, you understand that right? Presidents don't talk these through with a priest or the pope and while Obama is cool with aborting babies, I think he is not a good Christian because we believe in the santicity of life. Same goes for capital punishment, the church condemns it.Well when you tell me how many Christians follow the word of God.... feel free to chime in..
God will surely approve of gun lovers who's motto is shoot to kill
God surely approve of war
God surely approve of hating thy neighbor ( neighbor being that a minority )
God surely approve of the death penalty
God surely approve of throwing illegal immigrants out of MY country ...LOL
God surely approve of capitalism
God approves of racism
For a country that say they were founded by God, they sure loved enslaving blacks ( other humans ) for a long period of time
Tell me how much you love following the church teaching while boning you UNMARRIED gf tonight....
You should really stop talking now otherwise we can also start pointing fingers on how democrats hate women and gays. How, you ask? Well by taking away our guns, things we use for defense. In the end both parties at fault, something you clearly fail to see.
Well when you tell me how many Christians follow the word of God.... feel free to chime in..
God will surely approve of gun lovers who's motto is shoot to kill
God surely approve of war
God surely approve of hating thy neighbor ( neighbor being that a minority )
God surely approve of the death penalty
God surely approve of throwing illegal immigrants out of MY country ...LOL
God surely approve of capitalism
God approves of racism
For a country that say they were founded by God, they sure loved enslaving blacks ( other humans ) for a long period of time
Tell me how much you love following the church teaching while boning you UNMARRIED gf tonight....
Funny, I thought you were talking about how tolerant and compassionate you and you're ideological compatriots are as opposed to those REAL racist LIEberals, yet your sig promotes violence against people whose politics you don't agree with. So tell me again how I'm changing the subject? Or maybe I'm dyslexic and your sig REALLY says "HUG a liberal today, you'll both feel better today" and not "SLAP a liberal today, you'll both feel better."
Do we REALLY need to retread the history of the Civil Rights Act and how the regional alignments of political parties became MORE polarized every time one of you ignoramuses want to bring up that it was Republicans that freed the slaves or that it was southern Democrats(along with southern Republicans, but you conveniently ignore that part) that were in favor of keeping black people as less than second-class citizens?
those atheists and liberals(I know, same shit)?Hmmm...to troll or not to troll...
AHAHAHAHAH...please, do go on and tell me how little I've done to help people of color and how little I care about any of them. Or maybe I'd be a better person if I did what I do because of some promise of eternal life after death by some deity that might or might not exist instead of doing it because I think everyone deserves a chance. Tell me, with all that "love" and "compassion" you're supposed to have with your religion, that you insist on having a dick measuring contest as if this is your one shot at getting through those pearly gates?
I bet you have absolutely no idea why that is. Actually, that's not true. You probably think that it's because Catholicism is so great and that's why there's diversity in that flavor of Christianity, when in reality, it's because religion was used as a weapon of European colonization.
Oh please, I only leave that sig up because it offends people like you. Slap a liberal, like slap some sense into them, I didn't write shoot a liberal, if you stepped back from your posts and Finger's you would see how far you've jumped the shark.Funny, I thought you were talking about how tolerant and compassionate you and you're ideological compatriots are as opposed to those REAL racist LIEberals, yet your sig promotes violence against people whose politics you don't agree with. So tell me again how I'm changing the subject? Or maybe I'm dyslexic and your sig REALLY says "HUG a liberal today, you'll both feel better today" and not "SLAP a liberal today, you'll both feel better."
But that's just me throwing typical liberal potshots aka facts at you!
Do we REALLY need to retread the history of the Civil Rights Act and how the regional alignments of political parties became MORE polarized every time one of you ignoramuses want to bring up that it was Republicans that freed the slaves or that it was southern Democrats(along with southern Republicans, but you conveniently ignore that part) that were in favor of keeping black people as less than second-class citizens?
LOLZ...it's only bribery when it's government assistance for non-white folks, right? Does that line about loving your neighbor only refer to religious ones and
Hmmm...to troll or not to troll...
Unlike you, I judge people by their words and their actions; not their political or religious affiliations. Tell me more about selfish atheists though, I could use a good laugh since you think people without religion are mostly selfish and without morals.
In case you haven't noticed, LGBT's and women are still oppressed in the US. In matter of fact, there are MANY influential and affluent Christian groups that actively work to keep them that way.
AHAHAHAHAH...please, do go on and tell me how little I've done to help people of color and how little I care about any of them. Or maybe I'd be a better person if I did what I do because of some promise of eternal life after death by some deity that might or might not exist instead of doing it because I think everyone deserves a chance. Tell me, with all that "love" and "compassion" you're supposed to have with your religion, that you insist on having a dick measuring contest as if this is your one shot at getting through those pearly gates?
Last time I checked, I didn't have a sig that promoted violence against anyone. What does your religion say about that, hmmm?
I bet you have absolutely no idea why that is. Actually, that's not true. You probably think that it's because Catholicism is so great and that's why there's diversity in that flavor of Christianity, when in reality, it's because religion was used as a weapon of European colonization.
I'm done with shitting up this thread with you nudnicks. Start another thread or bump an old one.
Why would I be offended? I'm not the one making myself out to be a hypocrite and being a poor representative of my religion. Maybe you'd feel better if someone slapped you since you're not opposed to such actions and you'll be thankful for it too!
For every Thomas Sowell, there are countless actual black intellectuals that refute his claims. You talk about lack of outrage? LOLZ...you don't know jack shit about poor black communities. You think a weekend excursion into the ghetto to do whatever the
it is you think you do makes you informed about what goes on there? You're a ing joke and an opportunist.I've written about all of the above topics ad nauseam...in this very thread, in matter of fact. I'm not going to write a 1000+ word response to some ideologue shotgunning talking points at me. You've dipped in and out of Vs. for years and you KNOW that I've written at great length about these topics. Bump a thread or create a new one. I'd be more than happy to address your strawmen. I'd love to hear why you think I hate Christians and Jews though.
The sig's a joke relax, it's not going anywhere and does not promote violence. If you take your orders form a sig then you have more problems then you already do.Why would I be offended? I'm not the one making myself out to be a hypocrite and being a poor representative of my religion. Maybe you'd feel better if someone slapped you since you're not opposed to such actions and you'll be thankful for it too!
For every Thomas Sowell, there are countless actual black intellectuals that refute his claims. You talk about lack of outrage? LOLZ...you don't know jack shit about poor black communities. You think a weekend excursion into the ghetto to do whatever the
I'm not going to argue with a video of some academically dishonest hack that conservatives tokenize on the basis of his race.
One thing that Democrats have done for people of color? Civil Rights Act of 1964. Signed by a Democratic president.
I've written about all of the above topics ad nauseam...in this very thread, in matter of fact. I'm not going to write a 1000+ word response to some ideologue shotgunning talking points at me. You've dipped in and out of Vs. for years and you KNOW that I've written at great length about these topics. Bump a thread or create a new one. I'd be more than happy to address your strawmen. I'd love to hear why you think I hate Christians and Jews though.
Btw, the PPACA is heavily based on a proposal from the Heritage Foundation. HTH and thanks for playing. See you in the Obamacare thread.
Which side ( party ) seem really h*ll -bent on reshaping our gov't into a christian theocracy?
Well in regards to what I said, I believe that the people who strap on a bomb and blow themselves up in a crowded marketplace thinking they are doing God's will are clearly not in the spirit. In truth I don't know much of the Koran, so I won't quote it or pretend I know it, but the majority of Muslim people are peaceful and condemn things that are done in the name of God. I should also mention that people claim to belong to a faith but don't go to church/mosque and some of those people commit crimes or whatever. I don't believe that someone who says they are Jewish, Christian or Muslim and then kills, rapes, steals whatever, are not true to their religion, they don't follow the teachings and they don't represent the religion of all the good apples. I hope that made it clear by what I said.
Obama isn't Catholic, there's only been 1 Catholic president, Kennedy. Also realize that if you went to the MIddle East, you might be offended that the leaders are Muslim, go to Israel there is a good chance those leaders are Jewish. People of all faiths can hold office and they have every right to. If the majority of the country is Christian, than the makeup of elected officials could be largely Christian, but let me tell you, I don't get a boner about it because drone strikes, wars, assassinations, and human rights violations are all the work of many people in government and are not representative of any faith. Was Saddam a real Muslim when he gassed his own people, of course not, religion was a means to an end for him.
That's because Zimmerman is a delusional egotistical ignoramus and the defense should be playing him up as the world's dumbest man. Like he's so dumb that he has a borderline clinical case of the stoopidz or that he suffered from fetal alcohol syndrome...or maybe he's just Bizarro.
this guy.
Thanks for your summaries. I do not follow the case as closely as I should so it is nice to read everything in this thread.
Please elaborate.
FL poitics are very much white and hispanics oriented due to the huge Cuban influence ( conservatives )
LOLZ...no exaggeration here! Broken nose was never verified by ANYONE and the lacerations were tiny with no bruising. $5 says that he picked at the scabs to make himself bleed again.
Strange unidentified man follows you in a car at night while it's raining with no one else in sight? I'd be screaming for help too if that type of weirdo tried some funny stuff with me too and I'm a 34 year old grown man.
Person screaming for help gets shot in the chest and stops screaming for help. This is as much of a possibility as Zimmerman screaming for help considering the inability to definitively identify the voice, yet this isn't even a remotely plausible explanation in your tiny mind?
You must subscribe to the notion that if you say something five times, it must be true.
It would also make sense if Jorge was on top, but unfortunately for you, you're "logic" is irrelevant because from Jorge's own testimony, you are wrong about the distance in your testimony. Don't let facts stop you from spinning a yarn.
You believe in some very fantastical things, yet you can't imagine a situation in which Jorge followed with the intent to illegally detain Martin, which blew up in Jorge's face and he ended up killing a kid with a can of Arizona Iced Tea and Skittles for his younger brother.
I totally agree with you that it could have gone down like that.....BUT you should acknowledge the fact that Trayvon could have attacked George, knocked him to the ground, and made him fear for his life. Eye witness testimony verifies this, Trayvon's own father said originally that the recording of "help" was not his son's voice, and reasonable doubt needs to be totally disproved by the state. What does George have to prove for self defense? Did George walk up and shoot Trayvon? Possibly. Did Trayvon circle back and "stalk" George? Possibly. Thank God we (supposedly) only convict people based on verifiable facts. I wonder once again if any ballistics evidence will be presented. If it could prove that Trayvon was on bottom, or even standing, then George will be in trouble.LOLZ...no exaggeration here! Broken nose was never verified by ANYONE and the lacerations were tiny with no bruising. $5 says that he picked at the scabs to make himself bleed again.
Strange unidentified man follows you in a car at night while it's raining with no one else in sight? I'd be screaming for help too if that type of weirdo tried some funny stuff with me too and I'm a 34 year old grown man.
Person screaming for help gets shot in the chest and stops screaming for help. This is as much of a possibility as Zimmerman screaming for help considering the inability to definitively identify the voice, yet this isn't even a remotely plausible explanation in your tiny mind?
You must subscribe to the notion that if you say something five times, it must be true.
Considering what we know of Zimmerman, any logical person would not exclude the possibility of Zimmerman injuring himself. It's not like he's a blank slate that we know absolutely nothing about.
Oh and if the situation were different; it'd be different? No shit, eh?
It would also make sense if Jorge was on top, but unfortunately for you, you're "logic" is irrelevant because from Jorge's own testimony, you are wrong about the distance in your testimony. Don't let facts stop you from spinning a yarn.
You believe in some very fantastical things, yet you can't imagine a situation in which Jorge followed with the intent to illegally detain Martin, which blew up in Jorge's face and he ended up killing a kid with a can of Arizona Iced Tea and Skittles for his younger brother.
Nah...I'm just a REAL racist LIEberal atheist that's selfish because I'm an atheist, so anything I say is bupkis.
For this scenario, you'd need to establish why Martin would be in that situation to begin with since you're putting the blame on him for instigating the event instead of Zimmerman. If Martin was calling Zimmerman a punk bitch and causing a ruckus in the neighborhood, I could fully understand if Zimmerman decided to not let an asshole get away, but this isn't remotely the case nor was Zimmerman a victim of circumstances completely out of his control even before using other factors like age and race.
Or maybe we shouldn't be putting any eggs in this basket because there's no way of truly knowing whose voice it is at this time. Hell, I don't count the "damn coons" thing because there's no way to verify it.
...that Martin attacked him for absolutely no reason at all. None. Zero. Zip. As in the type of scenario in which Martin and Zimmerman only became aware of each other like Snake being seen by a soldier on the Easy difficulty in Metal Gear Solid with Martin going into a Negro Rage from Purple Drank because whitey.
LOLZ...that's more absurd than my scenario above, but this is a cynical attempt and I know you're not seriously entertaining this as a possibility.
Now THIS is something you'd seriously believe.
Why Wouldn't ballistics evidence be presented? It would have no bearing on their relative positions anyways because there isn't an exit wound. Real life isn't Dexter or CSI: Sunglasses.
No relevance? It doesn't bring into question the whole prosecution's ethics? What else has occurred that hasn't been discovered? Ol George might just walk AND claim a nice chunk of tax payer money in the process.
HahahHAHAhAHAhaHAHAAhhAA I don't even...
sigh...I'm not assigning blame to anyone. George did nothing illegal by following Trayvon. Was it bad judgement? Maybe, but then again, as watch captain, George may have felt that the police would arrive too late to find Trayvon. It appears that he was trying to be a socially responsible member of his community. There had been several break ins, right? A simple "Hey man, I'm with the community watch. Do you live here?", statement would've been great. Its sad to think miscommunication and prejudice, by both parties, might be the real culprit here. Trayvon did nothing illegal by walking home. Its what happened later that is in question. "Negro Rage"? Set your race card rhetoric aside for a second. Any teen who has been in fights and wants to fit the gangsta lifestyle (gun and weed pics in his phone, text about fighting) might physically confront someone who they feel has disrespected them. Couldn't TM have just outran GZ to his house and told his father that a "creepy ass cracka" was following him?
"HahahHAHAhAHAhaHAHAAhhAA I don't even...
Or...you know...Zimmerman could've waited IN his car for the cops. It wouldn't have mattered if Martin got away because he isn't one of the burglars that didn't exist anymore because the ones committing the burglaries were already caught and arrested. Zimmerman couldn't know that, you say? Well, he also didn't know that Martin was one of those people, but suspected him anyways because what? He was wearing a hoodie in the rain?
Uhhh...hollow point bullets aren't that neat and tend to make a mess upon impact?
I've just convened a grand jury composed of CAG LIEberals and we've found you guilty of improperly dumping toxic waste. Proof? Toxie the Toxic Avenger. Sheik Mat.
