Boston Marathon Bombing - Three dead 175+ injured

Wow, such a a sad day to see this happen. Had another teacher come into my classroom after the students left to tell me what happened. Thankfully I was able to check on facebook to make sure our friends were safe. They were running in their first Boston Marathon too.
 
[quote name='dohdough']I can't believe they just sourced the Post. SMH[/QUOTE]

They noted it was backed up by NBC. They also took a shot at the NY Post.

According to the police there are officers at all hospitals as SOP.

"Don't read into it" - Police Commissioner
 
You know what I'm more disgusted with than the bombing in Boston? Myself. Because I woke up, saw all these posts on Facebook about what happened and, before I could even begin to process it, my brain went, "What's everyone making such a big deal about? Only two people died."

After senseless tragedies like Aurora and Newtown, my mind is actually becoming desensitized to horror like this. The truth is, ANY loss of life like this is inexcusable. There is no "lesser evil" here. There's only lesser bodies. The evil persists, in all its steadfastness and depravity.
 
They just stated there is no suspect in custody during the most recent press conference and they are looking at the JFK as a fire not directly involved with the bombings. Can definitely understand the initial reaction to thinking it was though considering the timing.
 
[quote name='JP']They just stated there is no suspect in custody during the most recent press conference and they are looking at the JFK as a fire not directly involved with the bombings. Can definitely understand the initial reaction to thinking it was though considering the timing.[/QUOTE]

He is a pretty clumsy speaker. He labeled it an incendiary device. Is it a device or an unrelated electrical fire?
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Dohdough: Tufts has supposedly been cleared:
http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_blog_Explosion_in_Copley_Square

NO THREAT at Tufts Medical Center after evacuation. People being allowed back in. #wcvb
— Jim Lokay WCVB (@LokayWCVB)[/QUOTE]

I saw. Thanks!

[quote name='willardhaven']He is a pretty clumsy speaker. He labeled it an incendiary device. Is it a device or an unrelated electrical fire?[/QUOTE]
He said it could be either one and it's still too early to tell. That's what I got out of it anyways.
 
From ABC News live updates (although this is one of only two updates in red, so perhaps that means it's unconfirmed).

6:02 pm ET: ATF agents have descended on Brigham and Women’s hospital where they’re questioning one potential person of interest.


NY Times has the following as well:

A person briefed on preliminary developments in the investigation said that members of Boston’s Joint Terrorist Task Force were at Brigham and Women’s Hospital interviewing an injured man seen running from the scene of the first blasts, near 671 Boylston Street.
 
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They just mentioned on the WBZ broadcast that a Saudi National was seen acting suspicious and running away from the explosions and was tackled by someone and handed over to the BPD. They stated that the guy was cooperative and stating no involvement. Sounds like the Post information, at least where it came from. I applaud the newscaster for stating, it's possible that he was involved or it could just be was running from an explosion like everyone else.

I know the conspiracy people come out when stuff like this happens, but these people talking about this stinking like a false flag operation, I just want to slap them senseless.
 
[quote name='enigma']You know what I'm more disgusted with than the bombing in Boston? Myself. Because I woke up, saw all these posts on Facebook about what happened and, before I could even begin to process it, my brain went, "What's everyone making such a big deal about? Only two people died."

After senseless tragedies like Aurora and Newtown, my mind is actually becoming desensitized to horror like this. The truth is, ANY loss of life like this is inexcusable. There is no "lesser evil" here. There's only lesser bodies. The evil persists, in all its steadfastness and depravity.[/QUOTE]

This will dominate the airwaves alot more, and it will move Americans alot more than the fact that earlier today in Iraq, over 37 people died and over 140 injured in 20 separate attacks over the coming elections. Events like this do make me sometimes feel very negatively about the human race.
 
[quote name='JP']They just mentioned on the WBZ broadcast that a Saudi National was seen acting suspicious and running away from the explosions and was tackled by someone and handed over to the BPD. They stated that the guy was cooperative and stating no involvement. Sounds like the Post information, at least where it came from. I applaud the newscaster for stating, it's possible that he was involved or it could just be was running from an explosion like everyone else.

I know the conspiracy people come out when stuff like this happens, but these people talking about this stinking like a false flag operation, I just want to slap them senseless.[/QUOTE]

I haven't been able to listen to the radio or watch anything on TV since I've been at work, but it does seem like news people are being somewhat more cautious this time around. I guess there is the Post story, but even there they didn't go so far as others have in the past like by giving out someone's name or address with little to no information and no one else picked it up as the gospel truth from what I've seen. It's nice to see journalists act like journalists, but maybe that's just because I haven't turned on the radio yet.

We'll know more than we will ever want to know before this is all over, but right now I just hope that the casualties remain relatively low and people are able to contact their loved ones as soon as possible.
 
First day at a new job and as I'm sitting there doing some imaging I hear, "Police reports have come in that there was a bombing at the Boston Marathon".

fuck, man.
 
Whoever did this plan it so that there will be cameras everywhere. Unlike the shooting where you never get to see anything
 
[quote name='dohdough']Holy fuck. The first question at the current press conference was a false-flag one.:roll:[/QUOTE]
I thought I was hearing things, apparently not. That is just super levels of stupid. I hope the person who asked that gets dragged out of the room and also has press credentials revoked. Also, Alex Jones needs to have his internet privileges revoked.

I don't even understand why they even accept questions anymore. Typically the brass wont give out anymore information. For a single good question there are 10 other ones that are either stupid or fall under "We aren't giving out specifics at this time."
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']What was the first question?[/QUOTE] Why were the loudspeakers telling people to be calm before the bomb went off, Is this another false flag staged attack to take our civil liberties, and promote homeland security something about hands down pants and streets?

There is a video of the incident but I refuse to link to at is it's just that stupid. Said to be an InfoWars guy who somehow gained access to the conference and people are saying he didn't have press credentials. Considering who he is with, not surprising. The fact these types come out of the word work at all, let alone this early is just depressing.

In relevant items, have they officially stated the library fire was an electrical and unrelated? They had slowly backed off on the connection and I just couldn't keep watching.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']What was the first question?[/QUOTE]

Some nutjob asked it this was a false flag operation. Patrick said "no" and moved on, but throughout the press conference, the crazy dude just kept yelling stupid shit about this being a false flag operation.

Thank you Alex Jones.:headache:
 
[quote name='dohdough']Some nutjob asked it this was a false flag operation. Patrick said "no" and moved on, but throughout the press conference, the crazy dude just kept yelling stupid shit about this being a false flag operation.

Thank you Alex Jones.:headache:[/QUOTE]
They were in a no win scenario. If they dragged his ass out they'd be screaming cover-up, not like they wont be anyway. Letting him stay in there though kept a distraction in the room. I guarantee as soon as that was over that dude was escorted off the premises forceably. I would've done it right after he brought up the false flag a second time trying to drown out people with real questions. At that point he was no longer a "reporter" he was a nuisance and hindering the proper discourse and flow of information.
 
[quote name='JP']They were in a no win scenario. If they dragged his ass out they'd be screaming cover-up, not like they wont be anyway. Letting him stay in there though kept a distraction in the room. I guarantee as soon as that was over that dude was escorted off the premises forceably. I would've done it right after he brought up the false flag a second time trying to drown out people with real questions. At that point he was no longer a "reporter" he was a nuisance and hindering the proper discourse and flow of information.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I can't help but think that he's done it before...his voice is kinda familiar.
 
That guy sounds like my best friend. :lol:

Yes. The JFK fire was related to a redesign or construction. They confirmed it wasn't related, nothing exploded.
 
[quote name='usickenme']I can't help the but think the day (tax day) and location (boston) isn't insignificant[/QUOTE]

That's true. There was that crazy Texan that flew his small plane into the IRS office.

However tax day in Mass is actually tomorrow for state taxes. Plus why the finish line and not a government building.
 
Yeah, I don't want to even begin to make assumptions on a motive or make tenuous connections. There's still too much that's unknown to even make an educated guess imo. I have some suspicions, but nothing I'd place a bet on.
 
[quote name='dohdough']Yeah, I don't want to even begin to make assumptions on a motive or make tenuous connections. There's still too much that's unknown to even make an educated guess imo. I have some suspicions, but nothing I'd place a bet on.[/QUOTE]

My money is on at least one crazy fucker.

I thought everyone loved Patriots' Day.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']My money is on at least one crazy fucker.

I thought everyone loved Patriots' Day.[/QUOTE]

I know, look forwards to Patriots' Day every year, ever since my senior year of high school me and a group of friends have been going to the AM Red Sox game and then going to watch the Boston Marathon after the game is over.

Maybe just because it is so fresh and being shaken up I don't even know how comfortable I am going to Boston anymore, let alone going to the same place at the same time this all happened next year.
 
I was literally at that same spot the bomb went off watching my dad cross the finish line in 2010. It was a dream of his to qualify and finish the Boston Marathon, and it was awesome watching him work hard and eventually succeed. I'll never forget watching him cross the finish line. It's absolutely heart breaking that some sick bastards took that away from countless people today, and turned something great into a senseless tragedy. Hoping for a speedy recovery for those injured, and hoping whoever is responsible for this is brought to justice sooner than later.
 
Rumors on twitter and confirmation on Boston herald said they are conducting a federal warrant down the road from me in Revere. ...

This sucks. My gfs best friend was called into MGH to do xrays on people admitted and she said it was a complete horror show. Something you'd expect in a war zone....
 
We get the day off, so I wasn't as close as I would have been.
I was safely at home in Somerville in front of the Xbox. My s\o's friend ended up having to have surgery for shrapnel wounds in the chest, even though she originally thought she was ok.
I've only read about shrapnel wounds, but this is some seriously horrific shit.

This week in the city is going to be intense. Love to everyone affected.
 
Woke up this morning and found Peter King, that IRA supporting and Muslim-hating Congressman from Staten Island, jump to a conclusion that the bombings were similar to the failed ones in Time Square. You can see where this is going.
 
[quote name='JP']Why were the loudspeakers telling people to be calm before the bomb went off, Is this another false flag staged attack to take our civil liberties, and promote homeland security something about hands down pants and streets?

There is a video of the incident but I refuse to link to at is it's just that stupid. Said to be an InfoWars guy who somehow gained access to the conference and people are saying he didn't have press credentials. Considering who he is with, not surprising. The fact these types come out of the word work at all, let alone this early is just depressing.

In relevant items, have they officially stated the library fire was an electrical and unrelated? They had slowly backed off on the connection and I just couldn't keep watching.[/QUOTE]

Him asking if it was a false flag is stupid, I agree. But what he said about the announcements is true. The runners were told that a training exercise was being conducted, which included bomb-sniffing dogs. One coach at the event doesn't buy it and believes that some sort of threat was called in.
http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopula...Spotters-on-Roofs/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx
 
[quote name='AZR43L']Him asking if it was a false flag is stupid, I agree. But what he said about the announcements is true. The runners were told that a training exercise was being conducted, which included bomb-sniffing dogs. One coach at the event doesn't buy it and believes that some sort of threat was called in.
http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopula...Spotters-on-Roofs/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx[/QUOTE]

That's just wild speculation, and just because he never "noticed" the same level of security at other events, re: dogs and rooftop personnel, doesn't mean they weren't there. But this will go straight to the top of the conspiracy theory nuts minds as part of the massive coverup already underway.
 
If it were NYC there would have been bomb stiffing dogs anyways.

Other news, there was never a third bomb that didn't go off. Which is interesting.
 
[quote name='AZR43L']Him asking if it was a false flag is stupid, I agree. But what he said about the announcements is true. The runners were told that a training exercise was being conducted, which included bomb-sniffing dogs. One coach at the event doesn't buy it and believes that some sort of threat was called in.
http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopula...Spotters-on-Roofs/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx[/QUOTE]
I have seen the reports of people asking before/during about the dogs and the high police presence and they were stating it was a training exercise and mentioning of loudspeaker announcements before the race but not during the race. The InfoWars ilk have been stating it was over the loudspeaker moments before the explosion. It's that runner's speculation that there was a threat called in and that's why there was such a high presence. They could also have been there as a precaution as it's a high profile, international event and they were stating it was a training exercise to explain the high police presence as not to alarm people unnecessarily. That's also speculation.

I'm disappointed in the reactions of some people on social networking platforms. The overall seems to be good but there is always that group. I had a whole wall of text typed up on my thoughts on the MSM and certain reactions on social networking platforms, but they are irrelevant to the discussion honestly. Also, while I love this interconnected age and fast paced communication, it has lead to more and more dissimination of false information.

I haven't seen much concrete information on that apartment search, on what they found and why it was searched. Anyone else seen anything?
 
[quote name='willardhaven']Now they are saying there were only 2 devices/explosions.

What was the third "controlled detonation"?[/QUOTE]

They found a bag in the initial sweep and BPD's bomb squad decided to detonate it as a precaution. This info came relatively early in the chaos.

The conspiracy nuts are going bonkers about this event.:roll: I'm pretty sure that pic with the guy on the roof was all over the place before midnight.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']Oh ok. I had thought they labeled it a third bomb.[/QUOTE]

Some of the early reports are bound to be wrong. The cops did mention a controlled explosion and there was an unrelated electrical fire at a local library. It's not that unsurprising that someone got it wrong and it spread quickly.

People left their bags at the marathon when the explosion hit too, so that was bound to cause some problems for the police.
 
It seems that the police checked the area an hour before, but why don't they remove trash cans?! I just got an update and the bombs were pressure cookers with BBs in it.
 
[quote name='JP']I have seen the reports of people asking before/during about the dogs and the high police presence and they were stating it was a training exercise and mentioning of loudspeaker announcements before the race but not during the race. The InfoWars ilk have been stating it was over the loudspeaker moments before the explosion. It's that runner's speculation that there was a threat called in and that's why there was such a high presence. They could also have been there as a precaution as it's a high profile, international event and they were stating it was a training exercise to explain the high police presence as not to alarm people unnecessarily. That's also speculation.[/QUOTE]

Well, regardless of whether or not the conspiracy theories are true or if the speculation you speak of should be disregarded or not, this incident is bound to generate some sort of debate or implementation. I'd guess the theorists might suspect the broadening of the TSA or whatnot and claim who's behind it. But "whodunit" doesn't really matter if the predicted end results come true. Just look at what happened after the Oklahoma City bombing (AEDPA 1996), 9/11 (DHS/TSA, Patriot Act, NDAA) and the Sandy Hook incident (SAFE Act, ongoing gun ban proposals, etc.). No doubt, there are plenty of theories surrounding each one of these events but we can't deny that our civil liberties were effected/threatened by them one way or another.
 
[quote name='AZR43L']Well, regardless of whether or not the conspiracy theories are true or if the speculation you speak of should be disregarded or not, this incident is bound to generate some sort of debate or implementation. I'd guess the theorists might suspect the broadening of the TSA or whatnot and claim who's behind it. But "whodunit" doesn't really matter if the predicted end results come true. Just look at what happened after the Oklahoma City bombing (AEDPA 1996), 9/11 (DHS/TSA, Patriot Act, NDAA) and the Sandy Hook incident (SAFE Act, ongoing gun ban proposals, etc.). No doubt, there are plenty of theories surrounding each one of these events but we can't deny that our civil liberties were effected/threatened by them one way or another.[/QUOTE]
Interesting points, I believe any further discussion on these aspects should be reserved for the VS. forum as continuing could very easily derail this thread.

There seem to be a lot more reports on pressure cookers being utilized. CBS seems to be reporting that there was a timer on at least one of the devices.

So it looks like they have moved the Saudi National into witness category. I'm going to put my post, spoilered, on my complaints with the media on this.
I checked the news this morning and the more I look at the media on this the more, the more disappointed I get. Overall, they've been better than normal but I still come back to the Saudi National thing bugging me. Why was there a need to mention the guy being questioned, not arrested, was a Saudi National? What relevant information does that give, that isn't a subtle attempt at fear mongering? His status as a citizen, foreign national, whatever shouldn't matter until there are more concrete facts in place. It would've been just as effective to state "A suspicious acting man running away from the blast is being questioned at this hour after being handed over to the police." Same, relevant facts without the subtle "MIDDLE EASTERN DEVILS" fear mongering.
 
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Man, I kind of wish I didn't click on the liveleak photos. That is some horrid stuff.

Boston in general was a madhouse everywhere. My girlfriend works at MGH and there were cops with machine guns all over the place.

I'm very happy I decided to run my marathon in January. I don't run fast enough to qualify and I didn't want to have to raise the 4k needed to run for some of the charities so I did one in Florida in stead. That would've been a nightmare to be right down there either running or hanging out after finishing.
 
[quote name='Calipso']Rumors on twitter and confirmation on Boston herald said they are conducting a federal warrant down the road from me in Revere. ...
[/QUOTE]

You live in Revere? May god have mercy on your soul.
 
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