CAG League Sports: Madden 12 "JV League" - We Finished 3 Seasons! Thanks Everybody!!!

[quote name='DVO21']i offered him another running back in exchange but he was fine with this deal[/QUOTE]

A 1st pick and a 4th plus Des would be more fair
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Don't speak against trades without giving your reasoning. Posts like this don't do much to help.[/QUOTE]

Thats to little for a running back like foster I don't think the trade is fair to only have to give up that little for a top 5 running back in the game.
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']Thats to little for a running back like foster I don't think the trade is fair to only have to give up that little for a top 5 running back in the game.[/QUOTE]


i can see ur point in this but u can clearly look at Dez's stats and tell his overall should be higher than an 83 his stats are amazing and is just as good as miles austin is he just got jipped on his overall becuz hes young and his progession towards next year will take him easyly to an 89
 
[quote name='DVO21']i can see ur point in this but u can clearly look at Dez's stats and tell his overall should be higher than an 83 his stats are amazing and is just as good as miles austin is he just got jipped on his overall becuz hes young and his progession towards next year will take him easyly to an 89[/QUOTE]

If you change the 2nd pick to a first I will say the trade is fine to me. I just dont think the 2nd is enough
 
i think a first round draft pick would make it fair, dez byant is a clutch receiver and is a playmaker and is still young and will do nothing but get better, so i think the potential of dez bryant as well as the potential of a draft pick makes an pretty even trade.
 
i would be willing to move up the second round pick up to a first round pick but i need final aprroval of this trade since the two people that said no to the trade said they would be fine with it if the second round pick changed to a first round pick that means everyone seems to be in an agreement that this trade is good so just waiting for the final go ahead
 
[quote name='DVO21']i would be willing to move up the second round pick up to a first round pick but i need final aprroval of this trade since the two people that said no to the trade said they would be fine with it if the second round pick changed to a first round pick that means everyone seems to be in an agreement that this trade is good so just waiting for the final go ahead[/QUOTE]

I think a few more people probably need a chance to chime in on it, besides week 4 doesn't end for a few days so there is no rush. I want to look at the players ratings before I give my opinion.
 
[quote name='Blade3D']Could we start picking up free agents in week 5? As well as setup the guidelines for who and how they will be picked.[/QUOTE]


This was addressed on the previous page.
 
[quote name='jza1218']This was addressed on the previous page.[/QUOTE]

Whoops, only read the top part of that post, got it thanks.

Also, Calvin Johnson Jr. is on the trading block. Open to offers, would be interested in a trade for a top tier RB but only if it included trading Best and Johnson in it. Looking for RE, RG, MLB, and CB.
 
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[quote name='jza1218']I think a few more people probably need a chance to chime in on it, besides week 4 doesn't end for a few days so there is no rush. I want to look at the players ratings before I give my opinion.[/QUOTE]


only reason for the rush is there are other offers but i like foster and well if this doesnt go thru i wouldl like to see wut else he and i could work out b4 we advance since i would like to use him for week 5 of course
 
[quote name='Dark Rider']Hey could someone PM me the password or details on how to join the actual league? Or will you invite me?[/QUOTE]

Sure. Our league is the JV CAG League. The password is "cagls". Then read the OP to see the owner of your opposing team and send them a private message to schedule it :)

As for the Dez trade, I agree that switching the pick to a first rounder balances it out NOW. But two years from now Dez will be dominant, ratings-wise, and I feel that a second rounder is fair because of that

Slaton for a third rounder is fine with me, although Houston is going to be short on running backs.
 
well as of now the trade is at a 2nd round pick only if the league says it should be a 1st round then will move up to a 1st round pick i still think that the 2nd is fair but would be willing to move it up

ok i realize that FA is coming up and i know it suppose to happen during week 5 my question towards that is are we only allowed to pick up one player from FA or can we pick up 2?????
 
[quote name='DVO21']ok i realize that FA is coming up and i know it suppose to happen during week 5 my question towards that is are we only allowed to pick up one player from FA or can we pick up 2?????[/QUOTE]

One player only, and the teams with the worst records will get to choose first. I like the way the other league does it by having groups that can pick at the same time...so we're not picking players one by one. So, it will probably be something similar to that.

As for the trade proposals, yes, I'm giving them more time to marinate. Give others a chance to weigh in and give me some time to look over them. You'll have to forgive me if I'm not on CAG as much as I was before.
 
I realize I'd be down to two backs but I plan on picking up a third in the first round of Free agents and an comfortable with Tate and Ward.

As far as the trade with the Cowboys I agree with the Commish in his reasoning which is why I agreed to the trade terms to begin with. Bryant and a second rounder are fair considering Bryant will hit high 80's next year and will only get better. That being said I'm not gonna deny having him AND a first rounder we be sweet but in that I feel like I am cheating the league and getting 2 high potential players for one in the future.
 
[quote name='Blade3D']
Also, Calvin Johnson Jr. is on the trading block. Open to offers, would be interested in a trade for a top tier RB but only if it included trading Best and Johnson in it. Looking for RE, RG, MLB, and CB.[/QUOTE]

Too big of a player to not at least express some interest. Take a look at the Falcons and see if anything matches up..I will do the same soon as well.
 
[quote name='Docb9110']I realize I'd be down to two backs but I plan on picking up a third in the first round of Free agents and an comfortable with Tate and Ward.

As far as the trade with the Cowboys I agree with the Commish in his reasoning which is why I agreed to the trade terms to begin with. Bryant and a second rounder are fair considering Bryant will hit high 80's next year and will only get better. That being said I'm not gonna deny having him AND a first rounder we be sweet but in that I feel like I am cheating the league and getting 2 high potential players for one in the future.[/QUOTE]

With that reasoning i guess i would have to agree with that statement Bryant will become a clutch player in the future that should dominant the league and a 2nd rounder seems right to match everything up
 
[quote name='KasterDB']
As for the Dez trade, I agree that switching the pick to a first rounder balances it out NOW. But two years from now Dez will be dominant, ratings-wise, and I feel that a second rounder is fair because of that
[/QUOTE]

Agreed, but the premium will always be paid for the present. Two years is a long time, even in our league. To get the better end of a deal in the short term, one must usually give up more in the long term.

I am not opposed to the deal though, with either a 1st or 2nd round pick. Both owners believe they are improving their situation with this trade, which is truly the most important aspect. Beyond that, both players are trading someone of quality and a decent pick to compensate the difference in talent.
 
[quote name='DVO21']Block Buster Trade ALERT
Cowboys send
Dez Bryant WR overall 83 age 23 pot A
2nd round pick

to

Houston Texans
for
Arian Foster RB overall 92 age 26 pot A


this didnt take long at all[/QUOTE]

I think the trade is fair. I'm assuming that the league is going to run for several seasons, in which case the Cowboys win the trade now, while the Texans potentially win later (assuming a good player is drafted in the 2nd round).
 
After looking over the ratings, I think it has to be a first. Foster is a beast NOW, whereas Bryant is still a while away from reaching where foster is now. Even if it "only" takes two years, how many more seasons will we even play? I believe even the main league only gets in 3-4 seasons before the new madden comes out or people lose interest.

Also, the new people should check the first post, as several teams that have already listed their trade blocked and the commish has put them in there.
 
Packers 42
Broncos 3

This may seem like I was running up the score, but I promise that wasn't the case. The Green Bay offense only scored 3 TDs total.

Ryan Pickett picked up a fumble and ran his fat ass to the end zone for a TD early in the 1st. Then Tebow was sacked for a safety. The Packers' offense and defense got on rolls early that really never stopped. Aaron Rodgers only threw 10 passes, completing 6 of them for 2 TDs. Ryan Grant carried most of the workload for Green Bay, rushing 24 times for 147 yards and a score.

It seemed like I was sending the house on every play, but really the Broncos' O-line could've done just as well not even showing up. Even when I only rushed 3 down linemen, they had no trouble getting to Tebow and later Orton. Denver only managed 67 yards of total offense.

Like I told Kaster, I'm not really this good and I know he's not really that bad. Denver was #1 in the Power Rankings, so I know he's got some skills. This was just one of those Madden games where everything goes right for one team and wrong for the other.
 
Rams 34
Redskins 7

St. Louis remains perfect despite a dismal day for Sam Bradford. The Rams only racked up 69 yards through the air; however, Steven Jackson continued to show dominance by rushing for 226 yards and three touchdowns. He also caught four balls for 43 yards.

The score was 27-7 in the fourth. Starting in the third quarter, the Redskins (Vulcan 7905) started running the clock down to almost zero when he had the ball. I thought he was conceding at that point, so I did the same. With 1:16 left in the fourth, I was on Washington's 7 yard line, so I did a QB Kneel, thinking I could just run out the clock. Vulcan immediately took a timeout. I didn't understand it, so I called a running play, which went for another TD.

On his ensuing possession, I intercepted a pass. Got the ball back with 18 seconds left. Ran one running play, and he took another timeout.

Don't really understand those tactics. Asked Vulcan, and he said it's an OCD thing and that he had to use all his timeouts. OK, but that's not the only weird play.

After one of my third quarter touchdowns, I kicked the ball off. On the return, Vulcan proceeded to have his return man leap over and over again out of the end zone. I tackled the guy at about the 5 yard line.

Believe me, I know it's frustrating to be on the losing end. But I guess I would hope we can all play within the spirit of this league whether we're winning or losing. I would assume everyone would still try to play competitively — and like an NFL coach — even when they are behind.

Furthermore, it really wasn't like Vulcan was ever out of this game. He threw a lot, and I could pretty much stop that. But he was gashing me on the ground, and had he kept doing that, it likely would have been close.

GG anyway, Vulcan. I think I see you later in the season with you as the Steelers.
 
Hey guys some bad news. Unfortunately I will be out of town for a month and my internet access will be limited so I will have to drop the league much more earlier than i was hoping too. :cry: I will be able to finish this week but with the month long limited access to internet, I will have to go ahead and drop the league.
 
Trade Alert

Eagles send
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB 85

to

Cowboys for
Bradie James Mlb 83

this trade is pending the decsion on whether or not the cowboys must send a first round pick or a second round pick because if the cowboys send there number 1 pick to the texans along with dez bryant they would already be at there trade limit
 
Some reason, I need to use my timeouts. Could be I'm winning and I'm still using time outs. Also, I kept jumping because I thought I hit Y before that for a fair catch. Apparently it was right on the line and not in the end zone? I thought he wouldn't kneel being that close.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Packers 42
Broncos 3

This may seem like I was running up the score, but I promise that wasn't the case. The Green Bay offense only scored 3 TDs total.

Ryan Pickett picked up a fumble and ran his fat ass to the end zone for a TD early in the 1st. Then Tebow was sacked for a safety. The Packers' offense and defense got on rolls early that really never stopped. Aaron Rodgers only threw 10 passes, completing 6 of them for 2 TDs. Ryan Grant carried most of the workload for Green Bay, rushing 24 times for 147 yards and a score.

It seemed like I was sending the house on every play, but really the Broncos' O-line could've done just as well not even showing up. Even when I only rushed 3 down linemen, they had no trouble getting to Tebow and later Orton. Denver only managed 67 yards of total offense.

Like I told Kaster, I'm not really this good and I know he's not really that bad. Denver was #1 in the Power Rankings, so I know he's got some skills. This was just one of those Madden games where everything goes right for one team and wrong for the other.[/QUOTE]

Horrible, horrible game :drool:. I couldn't believe how easily Denver got shut down. Turnovers, which had been the major success point of their season thus far, were the key, as the Broncos turned it over four times. After falling behind quickly, the rushing attack never got going, and the previous injuries to Brandon Lloyd and Elvis Dumervil, the two best Denver players on their respective sides, really doomed them. Their other strength so far, 3rd down conversions, was completely negated, as Denver was 0-5 on those plays.

But like pitfall said, every once in a while, Madden decides to screw you totally, and I hope I meet him again, either through secondaries or in the Super Bowl, so I can redeem myself :)

EDIT: I'd like to update my trade block - all offensive lineman besides LT
 
All right, let's do a little nightly clean up/catch up here.

[quote name='DVO21']Block Buster Trade ALERT
Cowboys send
Dez Bryant WR overall 83 age 23 pot A
2nd round pick

to

Houston Texans
for
Arian Foster RB overall 92 age 26 pot A


this didnt take long at all[/QUOTE]

I've heard good opinions given on both sides, but after looking at everything a little closer, the point that stands out for me is that Foster is a 92 and STILL has an A potential. A lot of people are looking at the difference in talent right now, but with Bryant catching up later. This is not likely to be true for a LONG time as Foster is only 3 years older than him.

You could easily make the argument for Foster being a 98 and the best running back in the game a season or two down the road. The difference in overall rating is likely to stay the same. I think that's the reason a 1st round pick is warranted here. It will give the Texans another good player, but one who will take a few years of grooming before he can really contribute.

So, upgrade the 2nd round pick to a 1st round pick, and I have no problem approving that trade.

[quote name='Tanabeo']Trade Up For Review

Panthers Send: 3rd Round Pick

Texans Send: Steve Slaton 72 OVR 25 C POT[/QUOTE]

No problem with this one. Slaton is an underachiever, and it doesn't look like Madden has any expectation of him getting any better. 3rd rounder seems fair.

APPROVED

[quote name='AJVtony831']Hey guys some bad news. Unfortunately I will be out of town for a month and my internet access will be limited so I will have to drop the league much more earlier than i was hoping too. :cry: I will be able to finish this week but with the month long limited access to internet, I will have to go ahead and drop the league.[/QUOTE]

Ah, that sucks, man. Guess that means the Raiders and Cardinals are available again.

[quote name='DVO21']Trade Alert

Eagles send
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB 85

to

Cowboys for
Bradie James Mlb 83

this trade is pending the decsion on whether or not the cowboys must send a first round pick or a second round pick because if the cowboys send there number 1 pick to the texans along with dez bryant they would already be at there trade limit[/QUOTE]

Please include ages and potentials. Actually, even with the 1st round pick for Foster, you'd still have one core player left to trade. After you PM'd me about it, I went back to look and realized the numbers in the OP still reflected the initial proposal and not the compromise numbers. The total trades in a season limit is 5 and the core player limit is 3.

[quote name='Vulcan2422']Some reason, I need to use my timeouts. Could be I'm winning and I'm still using time outs. Also, I kept jumping because I thought I hit Y before that for a fair catch. Apparently it was right on the line and not in the end zone? I thought he wouldn't kneel being that close.[/QUOTE]

Completely understandable about the fair catch thing. That has happened to me on a few occasions. But let's try to be reasonable with the timeouts. If your opponent is willing to let the clock run out by kneeling the ball, it's kind of a dick move to call a timeout after that. I don't think anybody here thinks it was done maliciously. Just try to imagine what it would make you think if someone did it to you.

Whew! All right, I think that's everything. Sorry for these off the wall response times, guys. I think this is kind of going to be my schedule for awhile. I'm not up at 4 in the morning because I'm insane anymore, haha. I feel so liberated! :)
 
ok as for the texans and cowboys trade i will upgrade the 2nd to a first kinda sucks but i think will be well worth Foster either way i will be dropping Dez Bryant to FA for the Houston Texans to pick up when he gets the chance later tonight and he said he would drop foster into FA when he gets the chance which i will be picking him prolly tommrow morning or something


in my other trade news
Bradie James is overall 83 age 30 pot B Cowboys traded player
4th round draft pick

Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 85 age 25 pot A Eagles traded player

i added a 4th round pick to this trade becuz i think it helps make this trade even with Bradies age and Cro's Pot i think that a 4th is needed for this maybe not a 4th maybe a 5th but i put fourth and see what the reviews say to do
 
I have to say that I don't understand that trade from the Eagles perspective. Trading a young, higher rated CB for an older, lower rated MLB who is likely to decrease in a season or two seems odd.
 
Yeah, I have to say after looking over what was being proposed, I am thinking about not going through with the trade

The only reasoning I was putting behind it was that I need some help up the Middle of the Field..and the fact that is was nearly 1:30 AM when I was thinking it over..The brain shutdown a little early...

Am I allowed to back out of the trade, I dont see why not?..But maybe I am wrong
 
[quote name='TheSportsGamer23']Yeah, I have to say after looking over what was being proposed, I am thinking about not going through with the trade

The only reasoning I was putting behind it was that I need some help up the Middle of the Field..and the fact that is was nearly 1:30 AM when I was thinking it over..The brain shutdown a little early...

Am I allowed to back out of the trade, I dont see why not?..But maybe I am wrong[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you can back out. I would say up until the trade has been approved, you can always change your mind.
 
i could take over the cardinals as my secondary team if the league needs me to or the raiders

also is the cowboys texans trade offically approved
 
[quote name='DVO21']i could take over the cardinals as my secondary team if the league needs me to or the raiders

also is the cowboys texans trade offically approved[/QUOTE]

You couldn't take over the Cardinals because they're in the same conference (not to mention, you actually play them). But you can have the Raiders as your secondary team if you'd like.

And yeah, with a 1st round pick, the Cowboys - Texans trade is officially approved.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Yeah, you can back out. I would say up until the trade has been approved, you can always change your mind.[/QUOTE]

Ok..Then I am backing out of the Cromartie deal..Sorry DVO
 
[quote name='TheSportsGamer23']Ok..Then I am backing out of the Cromartie deal..Sorry DVO[/QUOTE]

its all good bro everyone got to take care of there own teams and keep the players they need to win games
 
Bengals fall to the Bills, 10-7, thanks to some questionable WR play. Jerome Simpson drops a crucial pass on 3rd down and fumbles another after a 23-yard game. Shipley drops another big third-down pass, and makes this beautiful play on a curl route.

http://youtu.be/nk6GO2HcEO0

AJ Green continues to play like a beast, catching five passes for 106 yards and a touchdown. GG N8.
 
[quote name='jza1218']Bengals fall to the Bills, 10-7, thanks to some questionable WR play. Jerome Simpson drops a crucial pass on 3rd down and fumbles another after a 23-yard game. Shipley drops another big third-down pass, and makes this beautiful play on a curl route.

http://youtu.be/nk6GO2HcEO0

AJ Green continues to play like a beast, catching five passes for 106 yards and a touchdown. GG N8.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it was a good game. Your defense seemed amped up, as it felt like you constantly had heat on me. I had to get really creative to get any kind of running game going. There were a few odd plays in that game, and neither offense really seemed to click for most of the game. The INT and fumble really put you in a tough spot though.
 
I just thought of something. With the trade cap, it was modeled after the one used in the official Madden league...and states "...core players traded AWAY max". Do they only count the players you're sending toward your cap limit? For instance, if I trade an 80+ player and a 2nd rd draft pick for a 90+ player, does that count as 2 core players for me...or 1 core player?

So, basically, do we want to count the players you're sending or the ones you're receiving?
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']I just thought of something. With the trade cap, it was modeled after the one used in the official Madden league...and states "...core players traded AWAY max". Do they only count the players you're sending toward your cap limit? For instance, if I trade an 80+ player and a 2nd rd draft pick for a 90+ player, does that count as 2 core players for me...or 1 core player?

So, basically, do we want to count the players you're sending or the ones you're receiving?[/QUOTE]

i know in the offical league its based off wut ur sending
 
the owner of the texans wanted me to ask if when traded players along with draft picks get moved if we are to drop the players to FA and then when the draft comes i draft the player he wants me to then drop the player to FA for him to pick up or if u guyes do traded that involve draft picks and players differently

im not sure how this league handles its trades either for sure ive always heard of how i explained it above with me drafting my number one pick with who he tells me to and i later drop the player from my team for him to pick up and put on his team unless the commish wants to do this process himself
 
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[quote name='n8rockerasu']I just thought of something. With the trade cap, it was modeled after the one used in the official Madden league...and states "...core players traded AWAY max". Do they only count the players you're sending toward your cap limit? For instance, if I trade an 80+ player and a 2nd rd draft pick for a 90+ player, does that count as 2 core players for me...or 1 core player?

So, basically, do we want to count the players you're sending or the ones you're receiving?[/QUOTE]

If it's a cap, I would think it would be trading away?
 
TRADE ALERT

The Bengals trade WR Jordan Shipley (Age 25, 74 overall, A Potential) to Dallas for RB Felix Jones (Age 25, 81 overall, B potential).
 
[quote name='jza1218']If it's a cap, I would think it would be trading away?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's kinda where my thinking was with it. It would allow you to acquire a few core players from different teams, but not completely dismantle your own. The only thing that would worry me with that is team's that have tons of draft picks praying on the rebuilding teams (ala Patriots in the official league). But I guess if we're not honoring picks involved in real life trades like they were, it probably wouldn't be as much of a problem.

So, is that what we want to go with then? You count the players you trade, that way you can't trade AWAY more than 3 core players?
 
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